if you can't see Kakko turning into a star, not sure what to tell you.
That touch pass to Chytil on the Lafreniere goal was pretty slick, he looks like such a smart player, gaining more and more confidence every game.
And Lafreniere I think now has 3 goals in his last 7 games, maybe the fans will get off his back now.
Trouba also looks strong to me.
Trouba offers very little by way of offense, but he's been very good on defense. I like the pairing with him and K'Andre. Unfortunately you shouldn't pay a one-dimensional defensive defenseman 8M per, but he looks a lot better on defense this year than he did last year with Skjei and Smith.
Obviously that goal won't count, but damn, what a wrister by Laf
Islander fan here who hasn’t watched too many Ranger games this year. They’re fucking good. Hate to admit it.
We're maddeningly inconsistent, but the future does seem bright. Islanders are just clicking on all cylinders. They have an excellent chance at going father than they did in the bubble, which is to say the Stanley Cup.
Islander fan here who hasn’t watched too many Ranger games this year. They’re fucking good. Hate to admit it.
This is probably the best game they’ve played since a game against Boston quite some time ago. They were FAST (reminiscent of the good ol days), got solid or better play from 4 lines, and good goaltending.
Odd question... how is Miller’s plus minus so much higher than Trouba’s?
Odd question... how is Miller’s plus minus so much higher than Trouba’s?
Not really sure, TBH. Obviously K'Andre produces more on offense, but they are a pairing after all. I could be wrong, but I don't think K'Andre plays on the PK. Fox-Lindgren is on the first unit and I BELIEVE Trouba gets paired with Smith on the second.
Frustrating game from our end, but the Rangers do have a lot of talent. I watch some of their games when they isles aren’t on, and while I get the frustration with the season, it seems the team is progressing well. I think Quinn gets a lot more grief than he deserves.
Isles need the break next week to get themselves right and figure out the lines with Palmieri and Zajac. Wahlstrom needs to be in. Just wish we didn’t have the Rangers again on Sunday before that starts.
RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
bounce back after the vaccination vacation last night. Also nice to hear some objective praise from the Islander fans.
Some on this board haven’t been able to take a step far enough back to see the kids developing before our very eyes. It takes time, and yes, there are stretches of frustrating inconsistencies but that’s all part of the process.
RE: RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Why is it pathetic? He's a smart player who's always in the right spot at the right time and he's amongst the league leaders in shooting percentage.
You're asking why it's pathetic that Colin Blackwell is fourth on the team in scoring? On a team with Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Lafreniere, Kakko, Strome and Buchnevich?
RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
RE: RE: RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Odd question... how is Miller’s plus minus so much higher than Trouba’s?
Not really sure, TBH. Obviously K'Andre produces more on offense, but they are a pairing after all. I could be wrong, but I don't think K'Andre plays on the PK. Fox-Lindgren is on the first unit and I BELIEVE Trouba gets paired with Smith on the second.
You don't get pluses or minuses on the PP or PK unless you are on the PP and give up a SH goal (minus) or on the PK and score a SH goal (plus).
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Ugggh. I'll see myself out.
You're talking about a 28-year old, who has never been a consistent NHL player and had a career-high of 3 goals coming into this year, as our fourth leading goal-scorer. Think about that. It's nothing against Blackwell, but that shouldn't happen.
Odd question... how is Miller’s plus minus so much higher than Trouba’s?
Not really sure, TBH. Obviously K'Andre produces more on offense, but they are a pairing after all. I could be wrong, but I don't think K'Andre plays on the PK. Fox-Lindgren is on the first unit and I BELIEVE Trouba gets paired with Smith on the second.
You don't get pluses or minuses on the PP or PK unless you are on the PP and give up a SH goal (minus) or on the PK and score a SH goal (plus).
Oh, I didn't know that
RE: RE: RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Why is it pathetic? He's a smart player who's always in the right spot at the right time and he's amongst the league leaders in shooting percentage.
You're asking why it's pathetic that Colin Blackwell is fourth on the team in scoring? On a team with Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Lafreniere, Kakko, Strome and Buchnevich?
Yes. That's what I'm asking. Stufftherun is right.
If watching a young up and coming team go through the maturation process these last two seasons, in the grips of a worldwide pandemic, where your starting goalie has missed significant time to injury, where the stars have finally aligned and your three top-10 drafted studs are finally in the lineup brings you nothing but angst where you spend the majority of the time whining and shitting everyone on the team, take a step back.
I don't know how any Rangers who's watched this franchise's futility over nearly 3 decades can't get excited. The constant negativity is just bizarre. It's miserable.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Ugggh. I'll see myself out.
You're talking about a 28-year old, who has never been a consistent NHL player and had a career-high of 3 goals coming into this year, as our fourth leading goal-scorer. Think about that. It's nothing against Blackwell, but that shouldn't happen.
Why not recognize the player for seizing his opportunity and playing well instead turning it into yet another gripe?
ALL quality teams have guys like Blackwell who seemingly come out of nowhere to play a significant role. They're not cornerstones. They're glue guys.
He's 4th on the team in goals. He isn't leading the team in points. He's 7th in points, nearly more than 20 points behind guys like Strome and Buchnevich - who would already have been traded were it up to you.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: Colin Blackwell is tied for fourth on the Rangers in goals.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Ugggh. I'll see myself out.
You're talking about a 28-year old, who has never been a consistent NHL player and had a career-high of 3 goals coming into this year, as our fourth leading goal-scorer. Think about that. It's nothing against Blackwell, but that shouldn't happen.
If anything, he's picking up the slack where other teammates and lines are lacking. That's called being a team.
You don't measure the success or failure of a team within the context of a handful of players still trying to find cohesion after injury or a recovery from a virus that clearly combats virtually every function an athlete relies upon.
No, you rely upon the rest of the team to step up and fill the gaps.
Curious. Anak, have you ever played a team sport at a high level? I'm not trying to call you out, but statements like - "It's pathetic" - as an indictment on an entire group of players, coupled with the success of a relative unknown - within the realm of today's reality, it just seems shortsighted and lazy.
Make an argument for the "Top Dogs" failing - a dubious argument, at best - don't toss Blackwell under the bus.
And don't say you didn't do just that with the "28 years old" - "3 goals" stuff. He's been a game-changing player and a guy who works his ass off every shift.
I'm not criticizing Blackwell. He's been a very pleasant surprise. But yes, it's pathetic that 28-year old guy with a career-high 3 goals coming into this season is fourth on the team in goalscoring. You obviously give credit where credit is due because he's been great and has been picking up the slack, like one of you guys said, and you can play him up-and-down the lineup. Blackwell is performing like a top-6 player. That doesn't change the fact that that's who he was heading into this year and he's not as talented as some of the other players on this team. No one is tossing Blackwell under the bus. I'm stating facts.
Look at the team. You have numerous first round picks, including a #1 overall pick and a #2 overall pick. Now, obviously you have to have patience and it looks like the light is finally coming on for both (tonight may have been Laf's best overall game), so you hope that the youngsters will start producing more and their minutes will increase as well.
I'm not criticizing Blackwell. He's been a very pleasant surprise. But yes, it's pathetic that 28-year old guy with a career-high 3 goals coming into this season is fourth on the team in goalscoring. You obviously give credit where credit is due because he's been great and has been picking up the slack, like one of you guys said, and you can play him up-and-down the lineup. Blackwell is performing like a top-6 player. That doesn't change the fact that that's who he was heading into this year and he's not as talented as some of the other players on this team. No one is tossing Blackwell under the bus. I'm stating facts.
Look at the team. You have numerous first round picks, including a #1 overall pick and a #2 overall pick. Now, obviously you have to have patience and it looks like the light is finally coming on for both (tonight may have been Laf's best overall game), so you hope that the youngsters will start producing more and their minutes will increase as well.
And no, I never played organized sports.
Dude, I get what you're saying. I just choose to be happy for Blackwell and have faith that the top players will continue to improve, score, have an impact on the PK and spur on this good steak of points.
The future is bright and whatever you get out of this season is a bonus in my eyes. The youngest team in the league, tons of talent, coming out of a fuckin pandemic. Idk. Sign me up.
In their last 10. Since the beginning of March (21 games), they've gone:
2-0 vs. DEVILS
1-0 vs. ISLES
2-2 vs. CAPS
1-3 vs. PENS
1-1 vs. BOS
3-1 vs. BUFF
2-2 vs. PHI
We are 5-6 against the ISLES/CAPS/PENS/BOS, four of the best veteran teams in the NHL. This despite the shaky situation in goal and having to bring in a journeyman 3rd G. We are a +22 in goal differential, which puts us 3rd in the toughest division in hockey.
Here are our next 10 games on the schedule:
2 vs. ISLES
4 vs. DEVILS
2 vs. PHI
2 vs. BUFF
If we can pull go 7-3 during thus stretch, look out. Goalies will need to pull their heads out of their asses.
I'm not criticizing Blackwell. He's been a very pleasant surprise. But yes, it's pathetic that 28-year old guy with a career-high 3 goals coming into this season is fourth on the team in goalscoring. You obviously give credit where credit is due because he's been great and has been picking up the slack, like one of you guys said, and you can play him up-and-down the lineup. Blackwell is performing like a top-6 player. That doesn't change the fact that that's who he was heading into this year and he's not as talented as some of the other players on this team. No one is tossing Blackwell under the bus. I'm stating facts.
Look at the team. You have numerous first round picks, including a #1 overall pick and a #2 overall pick. Now, obviously you have to have patience and it looks like the light is finally coming on for both (tonight may have been Laf's best overall game), so you hope that the youngsters will start producing more and their minutes will increase as well.
And no, I never played organized sports.
Dude, I get what you're saying. I just choose to be happy for Blackwell and have faith that the top players will continue to improve, score, have an impact on the PK and spur on this good steak of points.
The future is bright and whatever you get out of this season is a bonus in my eyes. The youngest team in the league, tons of talent, coming out of a fuckin pandemic. Idk. Sign me up.
I don't disagree. The future is bright...well, maybe not with Quinn at the helm, but there's a reason why we had the top-rated farm system even before we won the Lafreniere lottery. We're in good position to contend in the future (not this year) and we may be in even better position on Monday if we trade a guy like Strome for a decent haul.
In their last 10. Since the beginning of March (21 games), they've gone:
2-0 vs. DEVILS
1-0 vs. ISLES
2-2 vs. CAPS
1-3 vs. PENS
1-1 vs. BOS
3-1 vs. BUFF
2-2 vs. PHI
We are 5-6 against the ISLES/CAPS/PENS/BOS, four of the best veteran teams in the NHL. This despite the shaky situation in goal and having to bring in a journeyman 3rd G. We are a +22 in goal differential, which puts us 3rd in the toughest division in hockey.
Here are our next 10 games on the schedule:
2 vs. ISLES
4 vs. DEVILS
2 vs. PHI
2 vs. BUFF
If we can pull go 7-3 during thus stretch, look out. Goalies will need to pull their heads out of their asses.
Haven't looked at the standings lately, but Bruins have a few points on us with more games in hand, no?
if you can't see Kakko turning into a star, not sure what to tell you.
That touch pass to Chytil on the Lafreniere goal was pretty slick, he looks like such a smart player, gaining more and more confidence every game.
And Lafreniere I think now has 3 goals in his last 7 games, maybe the fans will get off his back now.
Trouba also looks strong to me.
Agreed on all counts. I've noticed Lafreniere is taking more risks too. He looks looser and is showing some of the burst he has.
Islanders were ass tonight.
He needs to use his shot more. Did you see that wrister from the blue line?
Yeah, he's got an excellent wrister. He's got a lot of elite skills he hasn't shown at the NHL level yet. I don't follow the draft prospects that closely but I remember watching him in the last WJC thinking whoever the hell this guy was would be a star.
In their last 10. Since the beginning of March (21 games), they've gone:
2-0 vs. DEVILS
1-0 vs. ISLES
2-2 vs. CAPS
1-3 vs. PENS
1-1 vs. BOS
3-1 vs. BUFF
2-2 vs. PHI
We are 5-6 against the ISLES/CAPS/PENS/BOS, four of the best veteran teams in the NHL. This despite the shaky situation in goal and having to bring in a journeyman 3rd G. We are a +22 in goal differential, which puts us 3rd in the toughest division in hockey.
Here are our next 10 games on the schedule:
2 vs. ISLES
4 vs. DEVILS
2 vs. PHI
2 vs. BUFF
If we can pull go 7-3 during thus stretch, look out. Goalies will need to pull their heads out of their asses.
Haven't looked at the standings lately, but Bruins have a few points on us with more games in hand, no?
I'm not as knowledgeable as guys like you, pjcas and others - but I can't help but think about these young beasts with a vet coach.
Or maybe they will somehow thrive next season under Quinn. And that's great too. The reality is, they're not winning the Cup this season. And that's ok. Just make a dent.
All I know is, it's pretty good times in MSG for our hockey and basketball teams. Big win by the Knicks tonight.
He is so mobile and has such a quick stick. Too bad there is nowhere else to put him line wise with Blackwell playing so well. It would be fun to watch him play with Panarin and Strome. But I have a feeling we are going to get some goals from that 4th line pretty soon. He is creating tons of opportunities in the O zone.
Have 6 kids on this that are going to be studs. I was wrong about Quinn, he is developing the kids very well and developing the team well. Blackwell has earned everything he has got, he deserves his time on the Panarin line which is part of the reason he has all the goals he has, should they not move him up because he is not one of the kids? Do you not see Panarin looking for him right now, I think Panarin sees a hot player who has waited a long time to get an opportunity and is taking advantage of it, Panarin gets a kick out of setting up teamates and he has a hot one right now.
Have 6 kids on this that are going to be studs. I was wrong about Quinn, he is developing the kids very well and developing the team well. Blackwell has earned everything he has got, he deserves his time on the Panarin line which is part of the reason he has all the goals he has, should they not move him up because he is not one of the kids? Do you not see Panarin looking for him right now, I think Panarin sees a hot player who has waited a long time to get an opportunity and is taking advantage of it, Panarin gets a kick out of setting up teamates and he has a hot one right now.
Lol.
RE: I will say this Kravtsov has been a revelation.
He is so mobile and has such a quick stick. Too bad there is nowhere else to put him line wise with Blackwell playing so well. It would be fun to watch him play with Panarin and Strome. But I have a feeling we are going to get some goals from that 4th line pretty soon. He is creating tons of opportunities in the O zone.
+1 Took an entire thread (highjacked by Anak, LOL) for Kravtsov to get a mention. He is skating and anticipating so well, much sooner than KK or Laf, and he's still just a couple weeks or so removed from his KL season. I don't know how long it lasts, but I can't help but marvel at his smarts, skating, and maneuverability, on the 4th, no less.
No doubt, pj. So much of what he is doing, enabling team to maintain possession and pressure in their offensive end, backchecking in the neutral zone/def end, not translating to the score sheet, but he is making his presence felt. You've been very steady in your assessment of him going back to last year, which was a challenge. By the time he came to camp in 2019 (seems like so long ago, Pandemic time), I think he was trashed, worn down by three seasons of hockey (Liga, WJ, NHL), then the adjustment to the League, his skating was sluggish, his confidence non-existent, he relied on deferring. He is growing into his talent, turned 20 in February, effing 20 years old!
I think you know this, but Kravtsov is older than both Lafreniere and Kakko. So while you say "sooner than Laf or Kakko" - it's kind of disingenuous since he was drafted two years before Lafreniere and one year before Kakko), tried and failed in NA, and went back to Russia to get confidence and pro experience.
It IMO one of the biggest challenges a franchise faces (where to start players) and with 1st round picks (like these 3) there is a lot of pressure.
I don't have the answer, I think it's case by case.
I don't know if Quinn has it in him not to unduly pressure this team and the kids while still have them generate competitive consistency, Rangers have mountains to climb: I think the worst thing Quinn could do--and it would undermine this SCP chase learning experience--is to foster an environment where they are playing tight. They have 'nothing to lose', this season was never supposed to be about being in the hunt for the Cup. Let them play. Never mind the kids' maturation process, does Quinn have the capacity to keep it loose?
but the 'grooming' of Vitaly to get him here, no guaranty that it works, as you say, case by case. It's still a big change from KL in very short adjustment period. Hopefully, it has staying power
No doubt, pj. So much of what he is doing, enabling team to maintain possession and pressure in their offensive end, backchecking in the neutral zone/def end, not translating to the score sheet, but he is making his presence felt.
I think I made the same comparison to Chytil last year, but only because of his work in the offensive zone, but Kakko's game right now reminds me very much of Pavel Datsuyk(sp?). 2 ways, is constantly winning the puck on the O end, not lighting up the score sheet really, but his plays are leading to scoring chances. Pavel head-manned the puck more and was obviously taking faceoffs, but the type of effect Kakko has on offensive sequences is very similar.
Will give a player that is playing wellin a particular game more ice time, he is consistent with that, Kravtov is given extra shifts on the third line, and the second, Kakko is given extra shifts on the second line, Quinn plays certain players most of the times in the given line that starts the game, but as players play better in the game they are given extra shifts, the ladt two games the Chytil line has been given more shifts together, you can knock the strategy, you can make an argument to just give the kids more time, the more time tge better they will get quicker, I felt that way earlier in the season and at times still do. But all the kids are progressing, Quinn has a system he is using and all the kids are prospering, so its time to give the guy some credit. Look at Miller, Lindgren, and Fox, they are playing great. Kakko,vChytil, Kravtov, and Lafreniere are all now playing well, but still a little inconsistent. I think Quinn is doing very well.
It's really unreal. Wtf was that from Mika?
Even Kreider's PS last night was awful.
Good teams find ways to win. Bad teams find ways to lose.
2-0.
2-0.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
That touch pass to Chytil on the Lafreniere goal was pretty slick, he looks like such a smart player, gaining more and more confidence every game.
And Lafreniere I think now has 3 goals in his last 7 games, maybe the fans will get off his back now.
Trouba also looks strong to me.
That touch pass to Chytil on the Lafreniere goal was pretty slick, he looks like such a smart player, gaining more and more confidence every game.
And Lafreniere I think now has 3 goals in his last 7 games, maybe the fans will get off his back now.
Trouba also looks strong to me.
Trouba offers very little by way of offense, but he's been very good on defense. I like the pairing with him and K'Andre. Unfortunately you shouldn't pay a one-dimensional defensive defenseman 8M per, but he looks a lot better on defense this year than he did last year with Skjei and Smith.
We're maddeningly inconsistent, but the future does seem bright. Islanders are just clicking on all cylinders. They have an excellent chance at going father than they did in the bubble, which is to say the Stanley Cup.
This is probably the best game they’ve played since a game against Boston quite some time ago. They were FAST (reminiscent of the good ol days), got solid or better play from 4 lines, and good goaltending.
Odd question... how is Miller’s plus minus so much higher than Trouba’s?
Odd question... how is Miller’s plus minus so much higher than Trouba’s?
Not really sure, TBH. Obviously K'Andre produces more on offense, but they are a pairing after all. I could be wrong, but I don't think K'Andre plays on the PK. Fox-Lindgren is on the first unit and I BELIEVE Trouba gets paired with Smith on the second.
Isles need the break next week to get themselves right and figure out the lines with Palmieri and Zajac. Wahlstrom needs to be in. Just wish we didn’t have the Rangers again on Sunday before that starts.
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And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Why is it pathetic? He's a smart player who's always in the right spot at the right time and he's amongst the league leaders in shooting percentage.
Some on this board haven’t been able to take a step far enough back to see the kids developing before our very eyes. It takes time, and yes, there are stretches of frustrating inconsistencies but that’s all part of the process.
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Why is it pathetic? He's a smart player who's always in the right spot at the right time and he's amongst the league leaders in shooting percentage.
You're asking why it's pathetic that Colin Blackwell is fourth on the team in scoring? On a team with Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Lafreniere, Kakko, Strome and Buchnevich?
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Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
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Shocking.
2-0.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
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Shocking.
2-0.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Ugggh. I'll see myself out.
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Not really sure, TBH. Obviously K'Andre produces more on offense, but they are a pairing after all. I could be wrong, but I don't think K'Andre plays on the PK. Fox-Lindgren is on the first unit and I BELIEVE Trouba gets paired with Smith on the second.
You don't get pluses or minuses on the PP or PK unless you are on the PP and give up a SH goal (minus) or on the PK and score a SH goal (plus).
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Shocking.
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And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Ugggh. I'll see myself out.
You're talking about a 28-year old, who has never been a consistent NHL player and had a career-high of 3 goals coming into this year, as our fourth leading goal-scorer. Think about that. It's nothing against Blackwell, but that shouldn't happen.
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Odd question... how is Miller’s plus minus so much higher than Trouba’s?
Not really sure, TBH. Obviously K'Andre produces more on offense, but they are a pairing after all. I could be wrong, but I don't think K'Andre plays on the PK. Fox-Lindgren is on the first unit and I BELIEVE Trouba gets paired with Smith on the second.
You don't get pluses or minuses on the PP or PK unless you are on the PP and give up a SH goal (minus) or on the PK and score a SH goal (plus).
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Shocking.
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And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Why is it pathetic? He's a smart player who's always in the right spot at the right time and he's amongst the league leaders in shooting percentage.
You're asking why it's pathetic that Colin Blackwell is fourth on the team in scoring? On a team with Panarin, Zibanejad, Kreider, Lafreniere, Kakko, Strome and Buchnevich?
Yes. That's what I'm asking. Stufftherun is right.
If watching a young up and coming team go through the maturation process these last two seasons, in the grips of a worldwide pandemic, where your starting goalie has missed significant time to injury, where the stars have finally aligned and your three top-10 drafted studs are finally in the lineup brings you nothing but angst where you spend the majority of the time whining and shitting everyone on the team, take a step back.
I don't know how any Rangers who's watched this franchise's futility over nearly 3 decades can't get excited. The constant negativity is just bizarre. It's miserable.
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In comment 15215272 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Shocking.
2-0.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Ugggh. I'll see myself out.
You're talking about a 28-year old, who has never been a consistent NHL player and had a career-high of 3 goals coming into this year, as our fourth leading goal-scorer. Think about that. It's nothing against Blackwell, but that shouldn't happen.
Why not recognize the player for seizing his opportunity and playing well instead turning it into yet another gripe?
ALL quality teams have guys like Blackwell who seemingly come out of nowhere to play a significant role. They're not cornerstones. They're glue guys.
He's 4th on the team in goals. He isn't leading the team in points. He's 7th in points, nearly more than 20 points behind guys like Strome and Buchnevich - who would already have been traded were it up to you.
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In comment 15215366 Anakim said:
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In comment 15215362 Bricktop said:
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In comment 15215298 Anakim said:
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In comment 15215272 shockeyisthebest8056 said:
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Shocking.
2-0.
And pathetic, but yes, he's been a pleasant surprise
Pathetic? What a bizarre take on a guy playing excellent high leverage hockey.
Not at all. It's nothing against Blackwell because he's overachieving and has been a very pleasant surprise, but he shouldn't be outscoring our big guns.
I'm not leaving any variable out during a pandemic. Mika was fucked up for weeks trying to recover, so that line suffered. And they clearly struggled bigly. The "big guns" still need to have all "cylinders" firing to be successful.
Ugggh. I'll see myself out.
You're talking about a 28-year old, who has never been a consistent NHL player and had a career-high of 3 goals coming into this year, as our fourth leading goal-scorer. Think about that. It's nothing against Blackwell, but that shouldn't happen.
If anything, he's picking up the slack where other teammates and lines are lacking. That's called being a team.
You don't measure the success or failure of a team within the context of a handful of players still trying to find cohesion after injury or a recovery from a virus that clearly combats virtually every function an athlete relies upon.
No, you rely upon the rest of the team to step up and fill the gaps.
Curious. Anak, have you ever played a team sport at a high level? I'm not trying to call you out, but statements like - "It's pathetic" - as an indictment on an entire group of players, coupled with the success of a relative unknown - within the realm of today's reality, it just seems shortsighted and lazy.
Make an argument for the "Top Dogs" failing - a dubious argument, at best - don't toss Blackwell under the bus.
And don't say you didn't do just that with the "28 years old" - "3 goals" stuff. He's been a game-changing player and a guy who works his ass off every shift.
Look at the team. You have numerous first round picks, including a #1 overall pick and a #2 overall pick. Now, obviously you have to have patience and it looks like the light is finally coming on for both (tonight may have been Laf's best overall game), so you hope that the youngsters will start producing more and their minutes will increase as well.
And no, I never played organized sports.
That touch pass to Chytil on the Lafreniere goal was pretty slick, he looks like such a smart player, gaining more and more confidence every game.
And Lafreniere I think now has 3 goals in his last 7 games, maybe the fans will get off his back now.
Trouba also looks strong to me.
Agreed on all counts. I've noticed Lafreniere is taking more risks too. He looks looser and is showing some of the burst he has.
Islanders were ass tonight.
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if you can't see Kakko turning into a star, not sure what to tell you.
That touch pass to Chytil on the Lafreniere goal was pretty slick, he looks like such a smart player, gaining more and more confidence every game.
And Lafreniere I think now has 3 goals in his last 7 games, maybe the fans will get off his back now.
Trouba also looks strong to me.
Agreed on all counts. I've noticed Lafreniere is taking more risks too. He looks looser and is showing some of the burst he has.
Islanders were ass tonight.
He needs to use his shot more. Did you see that wrister from the blue line?
Look at the team. You have numerous first round picks, including a #1 overall pick and a #2 overall pick. Now, obviously you have to have patience and it looks like the light is finally coming on for both (tonight may have been Laf's best overall game), so you hope that the youngsters will start producing more and their minutes will increase as well.
And no, I never played organized sports.
Dude, I get what you're saying. I just choose to be happy for Blackwell and have faith that the top players will continue to improve, score, have an impact on the PK and spur on this good steak of points.
The future is bright and whatever you get out of this season is a bonus in my eyes. The youngest team in the league, tons of talent, coming out of a fuckin pandemic. Idk. Sign me up.
2-0 vs. DEVILS
1-0 vs. ISLES
2-2 vs. CAPS
1-3 vs. PENS
1-1 vs. BOS
3-1 vs. BUFF
2-2 vs. PHI
We are 5-6 against the ISLES/CAPS/PENS/BOS, four of the best veteran teams in the NHL. This despite the shaky situation in goal and having to bring in a journeyman 3rd G. We are a +22 in goal differential, which puts us 3rd in the toughest division in hockey.
Here are our next 10 games on the schedule:
2 vs. ISLES
4 vs. DEVILS
2 vs. PHI
2 vs. BUFF
If we can pull go 7-3 during thus stretch, look out. Goalies will need to pull their heads out of their asses.
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I'm not criticizing Blackwell. He's been a very pleasant surprise. But yes, it's pathetic that 28-year old guy with a career-high 3 goals coming into this season is fourth on the team in goalscoring. You obviously give credit where credit is due because he's been great and has been picking up the slack, like one of you guys said, and you can play him up-and-down the lineup. Blackwell is performing like a top-6 player. That doesn't change the fact that that's who he was heading into this year and he's not as talented as some of the other players on this team. No one is tossing Blackwell under the bus. I'm stating facts.
Look at the team. You have numerous first round picks, including a #1 overall pick and a #2 overall pick. Now, obviously you have to have patience and it looks like the light is finally coming on for both (tonight may have been Laf's best overall game), so you hope that the youngsters will start producing more and their minutes will increase as well.
And no, I never played organized sports.
Dude, I get what you're saying. I just choose to be happy for Blackwell and have faith that the top players will continue to improve, score, have an impact on the PK and spur on this good steak of points.
The future is bright and whatever you get out of this season is a bonus in my eyes. The youngest team in the league, tons of talent, coming out of a fuckin pandemic. Idk. Sign me up.
I don't disagree. The future is bright...well, maybe not with Quinn at the helm, but there's a reason why we had the top-rated farm system even before we won the Lafreniere lottery. We're in good position to contend in the future (not this year) and we may be in even better position on Monday if we trade a guy like Strome for a decent haul.
2-0 vs. DEVILS
1-0 vs. ISLES
2-2 vs. CAPS
1-3 vs. PENS
1-1 vs. BOS
3-1 vs. BUFF
2-2 vs. PHI
We are 5-6 against the ISLES/CAPS/PENS/BOS, four of the best veteran teams in the NHL. This despite the shaky situation in goal and having to bring in a journeyman 3rd G. We are a +22 in goal differential, which puts us 3rd in the toughest division in hockey.
Here are our next 10 games on the schedule:
2 vs. ISLES
4 vs. DEVILS
2 vs. PHI
2 vs. BUFF
If we can pull go 7-3 during thus stretch, look out. Goalies will need to pull their heads out of their asses.
Haven't looked at the standings lately, but Bruins have a few points on us with more games in hand, no?
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In comment 15215303 pjcas18 said:
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if you can't see Kakko turning into a star, not sure what to tell you.
That touch pass to Chytil on the Lafreniere goal was pretty slick, he looks like such a smart player, gaining more and more confidence every game.
And Lafreniere I think now has 3 goals in his last 7 games, maybe the fans will get off his back now.
Trouba also looks strong to me.
Agreed on all counts. I've noticed Lafreniere is taking more risks too. He looks looser and is showing some of the burst he has.
Islanders were ass tonight.
He needs to use his shot more. Did you see that wrister from the blue line?
Yeah, he's got an excellent wrister. He's got a lot of elite skills he hasn't shown at the NHL level yet. I don't follow the draft prospects that closely but I remember watching him in the last WJC thinking whoever the hell this guy was would be a star.
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In their last 10. Since the beginning of March (21 games), they've gone:
2-0 vs. DEVILS
1-0 vs. ISLES
2-2 vs. CAPS
1-3 vs. PENS
1-1 vs. BOS
3-1 vs. BUFF
2-2 vs. PHI
We are 5-6 against the ISLES/CAPS/PENS/BOS, four of the best veteran teams in the NHL. This despite the shaky situation in goal and having to bring in a journeyman 3rd G. We are a +22 in goal differential, which puts us 3rd in the toughest division in hockey.
Here are our next 10 games on the schedule:
2 vs. ISLES
4 vs. DEVILS
2 vs. PHI
2 vs. BUFF
If we can pull go 7-3 during thus stretch, look out. Goalies will need to pull their heads out of their asses.
Haven't looked at the standings lately, but Bruins have a few points on us with more games in hand, no?
Bs up 5 points with 3 games in hand.
I'm not as knowledgeable as guys like you, pjcas and others - but I can't help but think about these young beasts with a vet coach.
Or maybe they will somehow thrive next season under Quinn. And that's great too. The reality is, they're not winning the Cup this season. And that's ok. Just make a dent.
All I know is, it's pretty good times in MSG for our hockey and basketball teams. Big win by the Knicks tonight.
Is weird.
Lol.
It IMO one of the biggest challenges a franchise faces (where to start players) and with 1st round picks (like these 3) there is a lot of pressure.
I don't have the answer, I think it's case by case.
I think I made the same comparison to Chytil last year, but only because of his work in the offensive zone, but Kakko's game right now reminds me very much of Pavel Datsuyk(sp?). 2 ways, is constantly winning the puck on the O end, not lighting up the score sheet really, but his plays are leading to scoring chances. Pavel head-manned the puck more and was obviously taking faceoffs, but the type of effect Kakko has on offensive sequences is very similar.