Buffalo Sabres
@BuffaloSabres
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We have acquired forward Anders Bjork and a second-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft from the Boston Bruins in exchange for forwards Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar.
Teams haven’t been shy in shopping their cap space. NJD, Det and SJ have all been used as a broker to remedy cap issues to this point. The NYR have approximately $9 mil in space and are among those clubs willing to facilitate financially complex trades as well.
RE: RE: Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston
They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).
Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
RE: RE: RE: Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston
Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork
brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.
Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?
This just isn't 2017 Taylor Hall any more. Since his knee injury 2 years ago he hasn't been the same player.
I think he's the same player or close to it, but I think his 2017 season was an outlier. I remember we (not you and me, but people on here in general) argued about Hart. He may have deserved it for his performance that year, but I wasn't convinced MacKinnon wasn't more worthy.
He's just on a shitty team and losing is contagious.
Outright theft by BOS. I agree with pj, Hall has looked good to me, skates well, powerful, creates offensive zone opportunities, have to be aware of him at all times. Seen quite a bit of him with this concentrated schedule. smh
given no one wants to keep him around despite his talent.
Count me in on trading Blackwell, if equitable. Sell high, don't want yet another bottom six vet blocking a young talent. Could he be needed for the Kraken draft list?
Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.
Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.
I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment
Yeah, I agree and I'm terrible at predicting trade value and contract value. I see players go for a 1st I think are bottom 6 players and players I think can be significant contributors go for less.
mind boggling some times, so I stopped predicting.
Which tells me to not trade him. Lethim stay and either build more value for a better deal, or keep him to be a functional piece.
They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).
Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
I agree with you, Kulikov has been a very pleasant surprise and I would love to keep him. If they do move him chances are that he will just be a rental and if so I expect the Devils to attempt to bring him back this offseason.
Siegenthaler was a solid pickup and a similar player to Kulikov. He's not an offensive threat but the Devils don't really need that. Siegenthaler should be a solid compliment to a prospect like Reilly Walsh.
They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).
Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
I agree with you, Kulikov has been a very pleasant surprise and I would love to keep him. If they do move him chances are that he will just be a rental and if so I expect the Devils to attempt to bring him back this offseason.
Siegenthaler was a solid pickup and a similar player to Kulikov. He's not an offensive threat but the Devils don't really need that. Siegenthaler should be a solid compliment to a prospect like Reilly Walsh.
Corey Masisak
@cmasisak22
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38m
#NJDevils
are trading Dmitry Kulikov to the Oilers for a conditional 2022 draft pick. @KevinWeekes
had the trade first.
Outright theft by BOS. I agree with pj, Hall has looked good to me, skates well, powerful, creates offensive zone opportunities, have to be aware of him at all times. Seen quite a bit of him with this concentrated schedule. smh
Really? I disagree. He looks like a shell of what he was. Mostly lacking the aggression he once had offensively. The Sabres are not just a dog, but a dog with fleas. Theres a reason why he was all but given away. As a 3rd line winger with some PP mins,hes fine I guess. But the guy looks pretty blah to me. He doesnt work hard to get open, he doesnt dig out pucks he doesnt play very good D in my opinion. He still has a nice shot. Thats really it.
(so far) we have seen Laine, Pierre Luc Dubois, and Taylor Hall traded, I think you can reach some conclusions about fit and chemistry impacting on ice results (as well as coaching).
with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.
and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.
(so far) we have seen Laine, Pierre Luc Dubois, and Taylor Hall traded, I think you can reach some conclusions about fit and chemistry impacting on ice results (as well as coaching).
with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.
and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.
I dont disagree. Was referring to his value as a player in general. He is another top of the circle shooter and what he can still do is shoot.
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.
Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.
(so far) we have seen Laine, Pierre Luc Dubois, and Taylor Hall traded, I think you can reach some conclusions about fit and chemistry impacting on ice results (as well as coaching).
with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.
and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.
I dont disagree. Was referring to his value as a player in general. He is another top of the circle shooter and what he can still do is shoot.
He's also going to be 30 this year, which doesn't mean much in hockey terms but it is kind of crazy because I remember the Hall vs Seguin battles raging like they were yesterday and a little ironic Boston winds up with Hall all these years later.
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.
Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.
I mean I think if you play under 10 games as a rookie, you don’t burn a year on ELC. If he has to Quarantine why would they want to risk a year of ELC being burned? Gives 1 less full season before paying him all in hopes of catching Boston who has 4 pts and 2 games in hand on them... this isn’t a positive.
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.
Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.
I mean I think if you play under 10 games as a rookie, you don’t burn a year on ELC. If he has to Quarantine why would they want to risk a year of ELC being burned? Gives 1 less full season before paying him all in hopes of catching Boston who has 4 pts and 2 games in hand on them... this isn’t a positive.
10 game rule is only for 19-year olds. Jones is already 20.
I was wrong on that my bad, also I think due to age he woulda been 2 year ELC next season so yeah. No longer confused and upset about it, just thought wrong.
RE: Highly touted Rangers prospect Zac Jones
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 8:44 am : link : reply
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plays for UMass.
He is hard hitting rock in his own end. With Nils, Robertson, and Zac Jones, Rangers' d prospects looking good. Three solid pairs a-cooking!
chop, we'll agree to disagree
In 17-18 and the first 33 games of of 2018-19 Hall had 50 goals and
120 Points in 109 games. He didnt play a game after December of 2018 for the rest of the season due to a knee injury. Since the start of 2019-20 Hall has scored 71 points including all of 18 goals in 102 games with 3 separate teams. At some point it's the player, not the guys around him. Listen its definately a no brainer move for Boston. Maybe he gets a big goal or 2 for them down the stretch and in the playoffs, but this is nowhere near the Hart trophy Hall. He is a shell of what he was.
RE: Highly touted Rangers prospect Zac Jones
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 8:44 am : link : reply
In comment 15216270 BestFeature said:
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plays for UMass.
He is hard hitting rock in his own end. With Nils, Robertson, and Zac Jones, Rangers' d prospects looking good. Three solid pairs a-cooking!
is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.
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5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.
you're right professor.
He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.
Gustaffson fan, but this is basically being traded for a bucket of pucks.
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Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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For a 7th RD pick in '22. And Flyers retain 50 percent salary/AAV
So Gustafsson to Montreal for a 7th. twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/…
but I like Vrana too. this seems massive for WAS to give up.
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Washington Capitals acquired forward Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for forwards Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik, a 2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 2nd round pick. #ALLCAPS
#LGRW
is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.
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5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.
you're right professor.
He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.
but I like Vrana too. this seems massive for WAS to give up.
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Washington Capitals acquired forward Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for forwards Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik, a 2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 2nd round pick. #ALLCAPS
#LGRW
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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20m
My guess is the Caps view this as two trades in one:
1) Panik plus a pick to relieve them of $2.75M in flat cap environment going forward with 2 more years on that contract;
2) Then Vrana plus a pick for Mantha.
is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.
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5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.
you're right professor.
He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.
if he plays this year, my guess is QB on PP2.
Adam Fox has one inch and 10 pounds on him...
I don't consider Fox a hard hitter either and when he's at his most disadvantageous situations are in the corners and in front of the net
RE: i think Lebrun hits the nail on the head with this one
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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20m
My guess is the Caps view this as two trades in one:
1) Panik plus a pick to relieve them of $2.75M in flat cap environment going forward with 2 more years on that contract;
2) Then Vrana plus a pick for Mantha.
Vrana also seemed to be in the doghouse of the coaching staff. I think he was a healthy scratch for a few games recently.
Not because of play, but because of cost
brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.
Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?
@BuffaloSabres
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2m
We have acquired forward Anders Bjork and a second-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft from the Boston Bruins in exchange for forwards Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar.
@DarrenDreger
Teams haven’t been shy in shopping their cap space. NJD, Det and SJ have all been used as a broker to remedy cap issues to this point. The NYR have approximately $9 mil in space and are among those clubs willing to facilitate financially complex trades as well.
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Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork
brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.
Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?
This just isn't 2017 Taylor Hall any more. Since his knee injury 2 years ago he hasn't been the same player.
@mikepfeil_
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hearing john tortorella has already benched the draft pick the blue jackets got for foligno
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Mike Pfeil
@mikepfeil_
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hearing john tortorella has already benched the draft pick the blue jackets got for foligno
Haha, I heard that Laine might be moved again!
There's no way Torts returns next year.
I would take Laine or Pierre Luc Dubois on my team any day
Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
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In comment 15217089 Anakim said:
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Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork
brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.
Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?
This just isn't 2017 Taylor Hall any more. Since his knee injury 2 years ago he hasn't been the same player.
I think he's the same player or close to it, but I think his 2017 season was an outlier. I remember we (not you and me, but people on here in general) argued about Hart. He may have deserved it for his performance that year, but I wasn't convinced MacKinnon wasn't more worthy.
He's just on a shitty team and losing is contagious.
What happened to Jeff Skinner?
I would take Laine or Pierre Luc Dubois on my team any day
I would love to see the Devils acquire Laine. I think he would do very well next to Hischier or Hughes.
@PhylBernard
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4m
Mantha, Bertuzzi, Garland all available. Those are big names
Eyes
Count me in on trading Blackwell, if equitable. Sell high, don't want yet another bottom six vet blocking a young talent. Could he be needed for the Kraken draft list?
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.
Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.
I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment
Yeah, I agree and I'm terrible at predicting trade value and contract value. I see players go for a 1st I think are bottom 6 players and players I think can be significant contributors go for less.
mind boggling some times, so I stopped predicting.
Which tells me to not trade him. Lethim stay and either build more value for a better deal, or keep him to be a functional piece.
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They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).
Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
I agree with you, Kulikov has been a very pleasant surprise and I would love to keep him. If they do move him chances are that he will just be a rental and if so I expect the Devils to attempt to bring him back this offseason.
Siegenthaler was a solid pickup and a similar player to Kulikov. He's not an offensive threat but the Devils don't really need that. Siegenthaler should be a solid compliment to a prospect like Reilly Walsh.
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In comment 15216597 Jay on the Island said:
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They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).
Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
I agree with you, Kulikov has been a very pleasant surprise and I would love to keep him. If they do move him chances are that he will just be a rental and if so I expect the Devils to attempt to bring him back this offseason.
Siegenthaler was a solid pickup and a similar player to Kulikov. He's not an offensive threat but the Devils don't really need that. Siegenthaler should be a solid compliment to a prospect like Reilly Walsh.
Didn't they trade Kulikov to the Oilers today?
@cmasisak22
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38m
#NJDevils
are trading Dmitry Kulikov to the Oilers for a conditional 2022 draft pick. @KevinWeekes
had the trade first.
Really? I disagree. He looks like a shell of what he was. Mostly lacking the aggression he once had offensively. The Sabres are not just a dog, but a dog with fleas. Theres a reason why he was all but given away. As a 3rd line winger with some PP mins,hes fine I guess. But the guy looks pretty blah to me. He doesnt work hard to get open, he doesnt dig out pucks he doesnt play very good D in my opinion. He still has a nice shot. Thats really it.
with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.
and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.
with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.
and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.
I dont disagree. Was referring to his value as a player in general. He is another top of the circle shooter and what he can still do is shoot.
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.
Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.
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(so far) we have seen Laine, Pierre Luc Dubois, and Taylor Hall traded, I think you can reach some conclusions about fit and chemistry impacting on ice results (as well as coaching).
with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.
and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.
I dont disagree. Was referring to his value as a player in general. He is another top of the circle shooter and what he can still do is shoot.
He's also going to be 30 this year, which doesn't mean much in hockey terms but it is kind of crazy because I remember the Hall vs Seguin battles raging like they were yesterday and a little ironic Boston winds up with Hall all these years later.
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.
Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.
I mean I think if you play under 10 games as a rookie, you don’t burn a year on ELC. If he has to Quarantine why would they want to risk a year of ELC being burned? Gives 1 less full season before paying him all in hopes of catching Boston who has 4 pts and 2 games in hand on them... this isn’t a positive.
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.
Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.
I mean I think if you play under 10 games as a rookie, you don’t burn a year on ELC. If he has to Quarantine why would they want to risk a year of ELC being burned? Gives 1 less full season before paying him all in hopes of catching Boston who has 4 pts and 2 games in hand on them... this isn’t a positive.
10 game rule is only for 19-year olds. Jones is already 20.
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 8:44 am : link : reply
In comment 15216270 BestFeature said:
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plays for UMass.
He is hard hitting rock in his own end. With Nils, Robertson, and Zac Jones, Rangers' d prospects looking good. Three solid pairs a-cooking!
chop, we'll agree to disagree
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RE: Highly touted Rangers prospect Zac Jones
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 8:44 am : link : reply
In comment 15216270 BestFeature said:
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plays for UMass.
He is hard hitting rock in his own end. With Nils, Robertson, and Zac Jones, Rangers' d prospects looking good. Three solid pairs a-cooking!
chop, we'll agree to disagree
Huh?
5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.
you're right professor.
He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.
if he plays this year, my guess is QB on PP2.
@FriedgeHNIC
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Erik Gustafsson to MON
@PuckReportNHL
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Sam Bennett to Florida per @ryanlesliemedia
@PierreVLeBrun
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Sam Bennett is being traded to Florida for a 2nd RD pick plus a prospect
@PierreVLeBrun
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For a 7th RD pick in '22. And Flyers retain 50 percent salary/AAV
So Gustafsson to Montreal for a 7th. twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/…
no way this is true. Vrana?
Kevin Weekes
@KevinWeekes
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**Breaking News**
Hearing @DetroitRedWings
are moving Mantha to @Capitals
for Panik / Vrana and more @TSNHockey
@NHLNetwork
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter
@PuckReportNHL
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Anaheim Ducks acquire Haydn Fleury from Carolina Hurricanes for Jani Hakanpaa and a 2022 6th round pick. #LetsGoCanes
#FlyTogether
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Washington Capitals acquired forward Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for forwards Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik, a 2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 2nd round pick. #ALLCAPS
#LGRW
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is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.
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5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.
you're right professor.
He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.
if he plays this year, my guess is QB on PP2.
Adam Fox has one inch and 10 pounds on him...
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Washington Capitals acquired forward Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for forwards Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik, a 2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 2nd round pick. #ALLCAPS
#LGRW
Wow, great return for Detroit.
@PierreVLeBrun
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My guess is the Caps view this as two trades in one:
1) Panik plus a pick to relieve them of $2.75M in flat cap environment going forward with 2 more years on that contract;
2) Then Vrana plus a pick for Mantha.
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In comment 15217652 Professor Falken said:
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is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.
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5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.
you're right professor.
He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.
if he plays this year, my guess is QB on PP2.
Adam Fox has one inch and 10 pounds on him...
I don't consider Fox a hard hitter either and when he's at his most disadvantageous situations are in the corners and in front of the net
@PierreVLeBrun
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My guess is the Caps view this as two trades in one:
1) Panik plus a pick to relieve them of $2.75M in flat cap environment going forward with 2 more years on that contract;
2) Then Vrana plus a pick for Mantha.
Vrana also seemed to be in the doghouse of the coaching staff. I think he was a healthy scratch for a few games recently.