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NFT: NHL Trade Deadline is Monday, April 12th

Anakim : 4/10/2021 3:35 pm
Some trades have already went down and it sounds like Columbus is trading David Savard to Tampa Bay.
SJ Trades Devan Dubnyk to Colorado  
Jay on the Island : 4/10/2021 3:39 pm : link
for Greg Pateryn and a 5th round pick
Sabres  
Longtimelurker : 4/10/2021 4:00 pm : link
Any rumors about Hall and/or Eichel? I think Hall has been held out the last couple of games in anticipation of a trade.
RE: Sabres  
Anakim : 4/10/2021 4:03 pm : link
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Any rumors about Hall and/or Eichel? I think Hall has been held out the last couple of games in anticipation of a trade.


Hall will be traded.

Eichel is out for the year, no? I would imagine if he's traded, it'll be in the offseason.
RE: Sabres  
Jay on the Island : 4/10/2021 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15215887 Longtimelurker said:
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Any rumors about Hall and/or Eichel? I think Hall has been held out the last couple of games in anticipation of a trade.

My cousin is a huge Isles fan and he told me that they are still interested in adding Hall even after the Palmieri trade. I'm not sure if it's feasible. The Sabres would have to eat some of the cap hit or take back a contract.
the golden knights better make a trade  
gtt350 : 4/10/2021 4:22 pm : link
Colorado is loaded
The rangers are  
fireitup77 : 4/10/2021 4:30 pm : link
Going to trade Blackwell.
Hopefully the Devils make some more moves  
Jay on the Island : 4/10/2021 4:40 pm : link
Dmitry Kulikov has drawn interest as he has played very well for NJ this season plus he has a great contract that expires at the end of the season.

Ryan Murray, Sami Vatanen, and Will Butcher are available.

I hope the Devils sell high on Miles Wood as well.
RE: The rangers are  
Anakim : 4/10/2021 4:43 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.


Asshat?
Trading Blackwell  
PwndPapi : 4/10/2021 4:47 pm : link
Makes absolutely zero sense. He signed for two years at an extremely team friendly deal. The draft pick wouldn't be worth to trade a guy playing hard on every shift and is cheap.
RE: RE: The rangers are  
chopperhatch : 4/10/2021 6:53 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.



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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.
I'm impressed  
pjcas18 : 4/10/2021 7:01 pm : link
by Blackwell, but he's a guy if you do get a reasonable offer for IMO, you take it.

he's absolutely replaceable and probably peak value.

He's really a 3rd/4th liner playing above that, high motor guy who is absolutely maximizing his skills. Good for him, but I wouldn't want him blocking Kakko or kravtsov - and then once Kakko and Kravtsov move up and if Blackwell is on the 4th line - and your offer was a decent one, think of it in those terms - would you trade a 4th line player for whatever was offered?
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Anakim : 4/10/2021 7:10 pm : link
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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.


What could they possibly get when they sell high?
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chopperhatch : 4/10/2021 7:21 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.



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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.



What could they possibly get when they sell high?


You're answering a question with another question.

What could they get for an overachieving, young, cheap player?
Blackwell  
pjcas18 : 4/10/2021 7:23 pm : link
is a 28 year old journeyman - not a young player.

I don't know what the Rangers would get for him, but I don't think it will be more than what they'd get right now (but who knows maybe a late late bloomer).
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Anakim : 4/10/2021 7:23 pm : link
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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.



What could they possibly get when they sell high?



You're answering a question with another question.

What could they get for an overachieving, young, cheap player?


Beats me. My guess is if they trade Blackwell, it's more due to the expansion draft. They may not feel comfortable protecting him over a younger guy like Gauthier (who they should keep) or Howden (who they should expose).
It feels like Buffalo mUse have an offer on the table  
Mike from Ohio : 4/11/2021 11:27 am : link
For Hall they can live with, but probably not a bidding war. They may only be getting offered rental prices since signing him long term is not an option for many contenders right now.

Dreger did report that the Isles came back to inquire about Hall after they completed the deal with the Devils, but they don’t have much to offer without a current year 1st rounder or many prospects. Could they get him for a second and someone like Bellows? Likely not, particularly if they need Buffalo to retain salary and/or take back a contract.

Add to that the fact there is no room for Hall on L1 now that Trotz has fallen in love with Leo Komarov playing there...
Two noteworthy guys on waivers today:  
Anakim : 4/11/2021 12:12 pm : link
Victor Mete of the Canadians and Sami Vatanen of the Devils
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chopperhatch : 4/11/2021 1:11 pm : link
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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.



What could they possibly get when they sell high?



You're answering a question with another question.

What could they get for an overachieving, young, cheap player?



Beats me. My guess is if they trade Blackwell, it's more due to the expansion draft. They may not feel comfortable protecting him over a younger guy like Gauthier (who they should keep) or Howden (who they should expose).


Thats what I was looking for. Good answer. I keep forgetting about the expansion draft and have no idea the rules. However protecting Howden and leaving Blackwell open for poaching is criminal. Blackwell is also exactly the kinda guy who excels in the playoffs: teams overlook him as a threat, he does well when given space, then when they lock on to him, it frees up more talented players and he is good at making passes under pressure.
Again  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 1:17 pm : link
Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.

RE: Again  
chopperhatch : 4/11/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15216520 pjcas18 said:
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.


I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment
RE: Again  
PwndPapi : 4/11/2021 2:19 pm : link
In comment 15216520 pjcas18 said:
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.


I don't disagree that his shooting percentage us unsustainable. However, he's playing productive top-6 minutes and is signed for two seasons at league minimum.

With the team up against the cap and with Zibanejad and Buchnevich due major raises, Blackwell isn't the guy I would look to move unless the braintrust were convinced Kakko/Lafreniere are ready to move up and are blocked. Icetime would say otherwise, but I guess it's possible that's how they feel.

I think it's more likely they would move one of the glut of 4th line Cs (Rooney, Howden, etc) + Georgiev + B. Smith.
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pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 2:20 pm : link
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.




I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment


Yeah, I agree and I'm terrible at predicting trade value and contract value. I see players go for a 1st I think are bottom 6 players and players I think can be significant contributors go for less.

mind boggling some times, so I stopped predicting.
The Devils made another move  
Jay on the Island : 4/11/2021 2:20 pm : link
They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).
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pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 3:13 pm : link
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.
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Anakim : 4/11/2021 3:14 pm : link
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Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.


Is Merrill really that much of an upgrade over Mete?
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pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 3:28 pm : link
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Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.



Is Merrill really that much of an upgrade over Mete?


not sure I don't know Merrill that well, but what I do know is Merrill is 6'4 and won't be man handled defensively like Mete is but he's not the skater Mete is.

Mete should be a forward.

for the price, it's worth a shot, Habs lost Gallagher for the year and are hanging on by a thread and their blue line needs the most improvement
Seeing what Foligno and Savard netted  
Anakim : 4/11/2021 6:14 pm : link
This is clearly a seller's market. I think Buch and Strome could and should net a huge haul each.


Foligno has 16 points in 42 games and netted a first and two fourths

Strome has 37 points in 40 games, and he's signed to a reasonable deal next year. Buchnevich has 35 points in 39 games and is an RFA at the end of the year. They're also both much younger than Foligno.
Doogs: Doesn't agree with you guys on Colin Blackwell  
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 7:02 pm : link
https://twitter.com/RonDuguay10/status/1381248776774557697

calls him team's inspiration

Igor in net tonight
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Mike in NY : 4/11/2021 7:42 pm : link
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Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.



Is Merrill really that much of an upgrade over Mete?


He has a positive +/- I believe despite solid minutes on an awful team
Isles acquire Braydon Coburn  
St. Jimmy : 4/11/2021 11:06 pm : link
for a 2022 7th round pick.
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Foligno is a solid pick up  
5BowlsSoon : 4/11/2021 11:15 pm : link
I believe this is the kind of player the Leafs need....tough gritty guys with experience....in the playoffs.

This is not a ho him yawn trade.....this is a trade that can push the Leafs over the top to win that game 7 they usually lose.
My 2 cents on the Merrill trade  
5BowlsSoon : 4/11/2021 11:19 pm : link
Merrill is a solid Dman who plays good d, can move the puck up, and can play either side. Like pj said, he is also big, but not heavy.

I don’t think little Mete is worth crying a tear over. Merrill is more needed, although, I’m sure he will be on the Habs 3rd line of defense.
Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston  
Anakim : 4/11/2021 11:48 pm : link
Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork
Anak  
MookGiants : 4/12/2021 12:05 am : link
still hellbent on trading Buch I see
RE: Anak  
Anakim : 4/12/2021 12:06 am : link
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still hellbent on trading Buch I see


Not because of play, but because of cost
RE: Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 7:33 am : link
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Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork


brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.

Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?
Done deal  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 8:03 am : link
Buffalo Sabres
@BuffaloSabres
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We have acquired forward Anders Bjork and a second-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft from the Boston Bruins in exchange for forwards Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar.
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Anakim : 4/12/2021 8:50 am : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger

Teams haven’t been shy in shopping their cap space. NJD, Det and SJ have all been used as a broker to remedy cap issues to this point. The NYR have approximately $9 mil in space and are among those clubs willing to facilitate financially complex trades as well.
RE: RE: Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston  
Stu11 : 4/12/2021 8:53 am : link
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Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork



brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.

Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?

This just isn't 2017 Taylor Hall any more. Since his knee injury 2 years ago he hasn't been the same player.
lol  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 8:56 am : link
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Mike Pfeil
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hearing john tortorella has already benched the draft pick the blue jackets got for foligno
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Anakim : 4/12/2021 8:57 am : link
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hearing john tortorella has already benched the draft pick the blue jackets got for foligno



Haha, I heard that Laine might be moved again!

There's no way Torts returns next year.
Laine  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 9:00 am : link
needs confidence, he's a goal scorer, hard ass coaching isn't always the right approach.

I would take Laine or Pierre Luc Dubois on my team any day

RE: The Devils made another move  
Stu11 : 4/12/2021 9:00 am : link
In comment 15216597 Jay on the Island said:
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They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).

Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 9:04 am : link
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brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.

Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?


This just isn't 2017 Taylor Hall any more. Since his knee injury 2 years ago he hasn't been the same player.


I think he's the same player or close to it, but I think his 2017 season was an outlier. I remember we (not you and me, but people on here in general) argued about Hart. He may have deserved it for his performance that year, but I wasn't convinced MacKinnon wasn't more worthy.

He's just on a shitty team and losing is contagious.

What happened to Jeff Skinner?
Taylor Hall  
ColHowPepper : 4/12/2021 9:14 am : link
Outright theft by BOS. I agree with pj, Hall has looked good to me, skates well, powerful, creates offensive zone opportunities, have to be aware of him at all times. Seen quite a bit of him with this concentrated schedule. smh
RE: Laine  
Jay on the Island : 4/12/2021 9:26 am : link
In comment 15217203 pjcas18 said:
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needs confidence, he's a goal scorer, hard ass coaching isn't always the right approach.

I would take Laine or Pierre Luc Dubois on my team any day

I would love to see the Devils acquire Laine. I think he would do very well next to Hischier or Hughes.
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 10:16 am : link
Phylippe Bernard
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Mantha, Bertuzzi, Garland all available. Those are big names
Eyes
Hall must be an enormous pita  
JonC : 4/12/2021 10:49 am : link
given no one wants to keep him around despite his talent.

Count me in on trading Blackwell, if equitable. Sell high, don't want yet another bottom six vet blocking a young talent. Could he be needed for the Kraken draft list?
RE: Hall must be an enormous pita  
ColHowPepper : 4/12/2021 11:43 am : link
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given no one wants to keep him around despite his talent.
Cassidy might be just the guy to set his head straight if what you say is right.
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chopperhatch : 4/12/2021 12:09 pm : link
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.




I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment



Yeah, I agree and I'm terrible at predicting trade value and contract value. I see players go for a 1st I think are bottom 6 players and players I think can be significant contributors go for less.

mind boggling some times, so I stopped predicting.


Which tells me to not trade him. Lethim stay and either build more value for a better deal, or keep him to be a functional piece.
Ottawa  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 12:17 pm : link
claimed Victor Mete
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Jay on the Island : 4/12/2021 12:33 pm : link
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They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).


Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.

I agree with you, Kulikov has been a very pleasant surprise and I would love to keep him. If they do move him chances are that he will just be a rental and if so I expect the Devils to attempt to bring him back this offseason.

Siegenthaler was a solid pickup and a similar player to Kulikov. He's not an offensive threat but the Devils don't really need that. Siegenthaler should be a solid compliment to a prospect like Reilly Walsh.
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Anakim : 4/12/2021 12:35 pm : link
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They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).


Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.


I agree with you, Kulikov has been a very pleasant surprise and I would love to keep him. If they do move him chances are that he will just be a rental and if so I expect the Devils to attempt to bring him back this offseason.

Siegenthaler was a solid pickup and a similar player to Kulikov. He's not an offensive threat but the Devils don't really need that. Siegenthaler should be a solid compliment to a prospect like Reilly Walsh.


Didn't they trade Kulikov to the Oilers today?
Yes  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 12:38 pm : link
Corey Masisak
@cmasisak22
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#NJDevils
are trading Dmitry Kulikov to the Oilers for a conditional 2022 draft pick. @KevinWeekes
had the trade first.
Well so much for that  
Jay on the Island : 4/12/2021 12:40 pm : link
Hopefully the Devils bring him back this summer.
RE: Taylor Hall  
chopperhatch : 4/12/2021 12:41 pm : link
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Outright theft by BOS. I agree with pj, Hall has looked good to me, skates well, powerful, creates offensive zone opportunities, have to be aware of him at all times. Seen quite a bit of him with this concentrated schedule. smh


Really? I disagree. He looks like a shell of what he was. Mostly lacking the aggression he once had offensively. The Sabres are not just a dog, but a dog with fleas. Theres a reason why he was all but given away. As a 3rd line winger with some PP mins,hes fine I guess. But the guy looks pretty blah to me. He doesnt work hard to get open, he doesnt dig out pucks he doesnt play very good D in my opinion. He still has a nice shot. Thats really it.
In a year when  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 12:45 pm : link
(so far) we have seen Laine, Pierre Luc Dubois, and Taylor Hall traded, I think you can reach some conclusions about fit and chemistry impacting on ice results (as well as coaching).

with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.

and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.
RE: In a year when  
chopperhatch : 4/12/2021 12:52 pm : link
In comment 15217533 pjcas18 said:
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(so far) we have seen Laine, Pierre Luc Dubois, and Taylor Hall traded, I think you can reach some conclusions about fit and chemistry impacting on ice results (as well as coaching).

with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.

and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.


I dont disagree. Was referring to his value as a player in general. He is another top of the circle shooter and what he can still do is shoot.
BIG SIGNING! Love it!  
Anakim : 4/12/2021 1:04 pm : link
Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.

Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 1:11 pm : link
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(so far) we have seen Laine, Pierre Luc Dubois, and Taylor Hall traded, I think you can reach some conclusions about fit and chemistry impacting on ice results (as well as coaching).

with few outliers Hall has been a .75 ppg player.

and I'd bet in Boston playing with Charlie Coyle and Pastrnak or whoever he plays with, he finds his game.



I dont disagree. Was referring to his value as a player in general. He is another top of the circle shooter and what he can still do is shoot.


He's also going to be 30 this year, which doesn't mean much in hockey terms but it is kind of crazy because I remember the Hall vs Seguin battles raging like they were yesterday and a little ironic Boston winds up with Hall all these years later.
RE: BIG SIGNING! Love it!  
UGADawgs7 : 4/12/2021 1:15 pm : link
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.

Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.


I mean I think if you play under 10 games as a rookie, you don’t burn a year on ELC. If he has to Quarantine why would they want to risk a year of ELC being burned? Gives 1 less full season before paying him all in hopes of catching Boston who has 4 pts and 2 games in hand on them... this isn’t a positive.
RE: RE: BIG SIGNING! Love it!  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 1:17 pm : link
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Frank Seravalli
@frank_seravalli
#NYR do make a trade deadline addition: Rangers are close to signing 3rd-round pick Zac Jones out of UMass after winning the national title.

Jones will report to Rangers, he’s burning the first year of his deal and #NYR expect him to be in lineup after quarantine.



I mean I think if you play under 10 games as a rookie, you don’t burn a year on ELC. If he has to Quarantine why would they want to risk a year of ELC being burned? Gives 1 less full season before paying him all in hopes of catching Boston who has 4 pts and 2 games in hand on them... this isn’t a positive.


10 game rule is only for 19-year olds. Jones is already 20.
Yeah  
UGADawgs7 : 4/12/2021 1:23 pm : link
I was wrong on that my bad, also I think due to age he woulda been 2 year ELC next season so yeah. No longer confused and upset about it, just thought wrong.
From the NCAA Frozen 4 thread  
ColHowPepper : 4/12/2021 1:30 pm : link
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RE: Highly touted Rangers prospect Zac Jones
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 8:44 am : link : reply
In comment 15216270 BestFeature said:
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plays for UMass.
He is hard hitting rock in his own end. With Nils, Robertson, and Zac Jones, Rangers' d prospects looking good. Three solid pairs a-cooking!


chop, we'll agree to disagree
In 17-18 and the first 33 games of of 2018-19 Hall had 50 goals and  
Stu11 : 4/12/2021 1:36 pm : link
120 Points in 109 games. He didnt play a game after December of 2018 for the rest of the season due to a knee injury. Since the start of 2019-20 Hall has scored 71 points including all of 18 goals in 102 games with 3 separate teams. At some point it's the player, not the guys around him. Listen its definately a no brainer move for Boston. Maybe he gets a big goal or 2 for them down the stretch and in the playoffs, but this is nowhere near the Hart trophy Hall. He is a shell of what he was.
RE: From the NCAA Frozen 4 thread  
chopperhatch : 4/12/2021 1:55 pm : link
In comment 15217613 ColHowPepper said:
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RE: Highly touted Rangers prospect Zac Jones
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 8:44 am : link : reply
In comment 15216270 BestFeature said:
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plays for UMass.
He is hard hitting rock in his own end. With Nils, Robertson, and Zac Jones, Rangers' d prospects looking good. Three solid pairs a-cooking!



chop, we'll agree to disagree


Huh?
Zac Jones  
Professor Falken : 4/12/2021 2:08 pm : link
is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.
RE: Zac Jones  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15217652 Professor Falken said:
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is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.
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5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.

you're right professor.

He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.

if he plays this year, my guess is QB on PP2.
Zac Jones is from Glen Allen VA, where I live  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2021 2:33 pm : link
Never thought there'd be a kid from here on the Rangers. Not quite a hockey hotbed.
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 2:46 pm : link
Elliotte Friedman
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Erik Gustafsson to MON
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 2:46 pm : link
NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Sam Bennett to Florida per @ryanlesliemedia
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 2:49 pm : link
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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Sam Bennett is being traded to Florida for a 2nd RD pick plus a prospect
not a huge  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 2:50 pm : link
Gustaffson fan, but this is basically being traded for a bucket of pucks.

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Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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For a 7th RD pick in '22. And Flyers retain 50 percent salary/AAV
So Gustafsson to Montreal for a 7th. twitter.com/PierreVLeBrun/…
Well, we have a big trade:  
Anakim : 4/12/2021 3:31 pm : link
Red Wings trade Anthony Mantha to the Capitals
RE: Well, we have a big trade:  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 3:34 pm : link
In comment 15217788 Anakim said:
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Red Wings trade Anthony Mantha to the Capitals


no way this is true. Vrana?

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**Breaking News**

Hearing @DetroitRedWings
are moving Mantha to @Capitals
for Panik / Vrana and more @TSNHockey
@NHLNetwork
@NHL
#HockeyTwitter
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Anaheim Ducks acquire Haydn Fleury from Carolina Hurricanes for Jani Hakanpaa and a 2022 6th round pick. #LetsGoCanes
#FlyTogether
I like Mantha  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 3:47 pm : link
but I like Vrana too. this seems massive for WAS to give up.

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Washington Capitals acquired forward Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for forwards Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik, a 2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 2nd round pick. #ALLCAPS
#LGRW
RE: RE: Zac Jones  
BestFeature : 4/12/2021 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15217664 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15217652 Professor Falken said:


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is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.

\

5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.

you're right professor.

He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.

if he plays this year, my guess is QB on PP2.


Adam Fox has one inch and 10 pounds on him...
RE: I like Mantha  
Jay on the Island : 4/12/2021 3:51 pm : link
In comment 15217804 pjcas18 said:
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but I like Vrana too. this seems massive for WAS to give up.

NHL News
@PuckReportNHL
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Washington Capitals acquired forward Anthony Mantha from the Detroit Red Wings for forwards Jakub Vrana and Richard Panik, a 2021 1st round pick, and a 2022 2nd round pick. #ALLCAPS
#LGRW

Wow, great return for Detroit.
Is Mantha actually that good?  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2021 4:07 pm : link
I mean,I know he has a lot of physical gifts, but he's not that young anymore and his production has never been anything to write home about.
i think Lebrun hits the nail on the head with this one  
Burt64 : 4/12/2021 4:13 pm : link
Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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My guess is the Caps view this as two trades in one:
1) Panik plus a pick to relieve them of $2.75M in flat cap environment going forward with 2 more years on that contract;
2) Then Vrana plus a pick for Mantha.
RE: RE: RE: Zac Jones  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 4:46 pm : link
In comment 15217807 BestFeature said:
Quote:
In comment 15217664 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


In comment 15217652 Professor Falken said:


Quote:


is the opposite of hard hitting. Small, quick, stickhandler.

\

5'10 170 pound hard hitter, lol. I mean he wouldn't be the first, but that's not who he is.

you're right professor.

He reminds me of Victor Mete - good player with some usefulness, but I can absolutely see him getting pushed around in front of the net and losing corner battles.

if he plays this year, my guess is QB on PP2.



Adam Fox has one inch and 10 pounds on him...

I don't consider Fox a hard hitter either and when he's at his most disadvantageous situations are in the corners and in front of the net
RE: i think Lebrun hits the nail on the head with this one  
Mike in NY : 4/12/2021 4:50 pm : link
In comment 15217830 Burt64 said:
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Pierre LeBrun
@PierreVLeBrun
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My guess is the Caps view this as two trades in one:
1) Panik plus a pick to relieve them of $2.75M in flat cap environment going forward with 2 more years on that contract;
2) Then Vrana plus a pick for Mantha.


Vrana also seemed to be in the doghouse of the coaching staff. I think he was a healthy scratch for a few games recently.
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