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NFT: NHL Trade Deadline is Monday, April 12th

Anakim : 4/10/2021 3:35 pm
Some trades have already went down and it sounds like Columbus is trading David Savard to Tampa Bay.
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SJ Trades Devan Dubnyk to Colorado  
Jay on the Island : 4/10/2021 3:39 pm : link
for Greg Pateryn and a 5th round pick
Sabres  
Longtimelurker : 4/10/2021 4:00 pm : link
Any rumors about Hall and/or Eichel? I think Hall has been held out the last couple of games in anticipation of a trade.
RE: Sabres  
Anakim : 4/10/2021 4:03 pm : link
In comment 15215887 Longtimelurker said:
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Any rumors about Hall and/or Eichel? I think Hall has been held out the last couple of games in anticipation of a trade.


Hall will be traded.

Eichel is out for the year, no? I would imagine if he's traded, it'll be in the offseason.
RE: Sabres  
Jay on the Island : 4/10/2021 4:19 pm : link
In comment 15215887 Longtimelurker said:
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Any rumors about Hall and/or Eichel? I think Hall has been held out the last couple of games in anticipation of a trade.

My cousin is a huge Isles fan and he told me that they are still interested in adding Hall even after the Palmieri trade. I'm not sure if it's feasible. The Sabres would have to eat some of the cap hit or take back a contract.
the golden knights better make a trade  
gtt350 : 4/10/2021 4:22 pm : link
Colorado is loaded
The rangers are  
fireitup77 : 4/10/2021 4:30 pm : link
Going to trade Blackwell.
Hopefully the Devils make some more moves  
Jay on the Island : 4/10/2021 4:40 pm : link
Dmitry Kulikov has drawn interest as he has played very well for NJ this season plus he has a great contract that expires at the end of the season.

Ryan Murray, Sami Vatanen, and Will Butcher are available.

I hope the Devils sell high on Miles Wood as well.
RE: The rangers are  
Anakim : 4/10/2021 4:43 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.


Asshat?
Trading Blackwell  
PwndPapi : 4/10/2021 4:47 pm : link
Makes absolutely zero sense. He signed for two years at an extremely team friendly deal. The draft pick wouldn't be worth to trade a guy playing hard on every shift and is cheap.
RE: RE: The rangers are  
chopperhatch : 4/10/2021 6:53 pm : link
In comment 15215928 Anakim said:
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Going to trade Blackwell.



Asshat?


What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.
I'm impressed  
pjcas18 : 4/10/2021 7:01 pm : link
by Blackwell, but he's a guy if you do get a reasonable offer for IMO, you take it.

he's absolutely replaceable and probably peak value.

He's really a 3rd/4th liner playing above that, high motor guy who is absolutely maximizing his skills. Good for him, but I wouldn't want him blocking Kakko or kravtsov - and then once Kakko and Kravtsov move up and if Blackwell is on the 4th line - and your offer was a decent one, think of it in those terms - would you trade a 4th line player for whatever was offered?
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Anakim : 4/10/2021 7:10 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.



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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.


What could they possibly get when they sell high?
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chopperhatch : 4/10/2021 7:21 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.



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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.



What could they possibly get when they sell high?


You're answering a question with another question.

What could they get for an overachieving, young, cheap player?
Blackwell  
pjcas18 : 4/10/2021 7:23 pm : link
is a 28 year old journeyman - not a young player.

I don't know what the Rangers would get for him, but I don't think it will be more than what they'd get right now (but who knows maybe a late late bloomer).
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Anakim : 4/10/2021 7:23 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.



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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.



What could they possibly get when they sell high?



You're answering a question with another question.

What could they get for an overachieving, young, cheap player?


Beats me. My guess is if they trade Blackwell, it's more due to the expansion draft. They may not feel comfortable protecting him over a younger guy like Gauthier (who they should keep) or Howden (who they should expose).
It feels like Buffalo mUse have an offer on the table  
Mike from Ohio : 4/11/2021 11:27 am : link
For Hall they can live with, but probably not a bidding war. They may only be getting offered rental prices since signing him long term is not an option for many contenders right now.

Dreger did report that the Isles came back to inquire about Hall after they completed the deal with the Devils, but they don’t have much to offer without a current year 1st rounder or many prospects. Could they get him for a second and someone like Bellows? Likely not, particularly if they need Buffalo to retain salary and/or take back a contract.

Add to that the fact there is no room for Hall on L1 now that Trotz has fallen in love with Leo Komarov playing there...
Two noteworthy guys on waivers today:  
Anakim : 4/11/2021 12:12 pm : link
Victor Mete of the Canadians and Sami Vatanen of the Devils
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chopperhatch : 4/11/2021 1:11 pm : link
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Going to trade Blackwell.



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What could they POSSIBLY get for a player that,while solid, is undersized and just broke out? Im calling shenanigans on that one.



What could they possibly get when they sell high?



You're answering a question with another question.

What could they get for an overachieving, young, cheap player?



Beats me. My guess is if they trade Blackwell, it's more due to the expansion draft. They may not feel comfortable protecting him over a younger guy like Gauthier (who they should keep) or Howden (who they should expose).


Thats what I was looking for. Good answer. I keep forgetting about the expansion draft and have no idea the rules. However protecting Howden and leaving Blackwell open for poaching is criminal. Blackwell is also exactly the kinda guy who excels in the playoffs: teams overlook him as a threat, he does well when given space, then when they lock on to him, it frees up more talented players and he is good at making passes under pressure.
Again  
pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 1:17 pm : link
Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.

RE: Again  
chopperhatch : 4/11/2021 2:08 pm : link
In comment 15216520 pjcas18 said:
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.


I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment
RE: Again  
PwndPapi : 4/11/2021 2:19 pm : link
In comment 15216520 pjcas18 said:
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.


I don't disagree that his shooting percentage us unsustainable. However, he's playing productive top-6 minutes and is signed for two seasons at league minimum.

With the team up against the cap and with Zibanejad and Buchnevich due major raises, Blackwell isn't the guy I would look to move unless the braintrust were convinced Kakko/Lafreniere are ready to move up and are blocked. Icetime would say otherwise, but I guess it's possible that's how they feel.

I think it's more likely they would move one of the glut of 4th line Cs (Rooney, Howden, etc) + Georgiev + B. Smith.
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pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 2:20 pm : link
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.




I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment


Yeah, I agree and I'm terrible at predicting trade value and contract value. I see players go for a 1st I think are bottom 6 players and players I think can be significant contributors go for less.

mind boggling some times, so I stopped predicting.
The Devils made another move  
Jay on the Island : 4/11/2021 2:20 pm : link
They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).
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pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 3:13 pm : link
Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.
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Anakim : 4/11/2021 3:14 pm : link
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Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.


Is Merrill really that much of an upgrade over Mete?
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pjcas18 : 4/11/2021 3:28 pm : link
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Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.



Is Merrill really that much of an upgrade over Mete?


not sure I don't know Merrill that well, but what I do know is Merrill is 6'4 and won't be man handled defensively like Mete is but he's not the skater Mete is.

Mete should be a forward.

for the price, it's worth a shot, Habs lost Gallagher for the year and are hanging on by a thread and their blue line needs the most improvement
Seeing what Foligno and Savard netted  
Anakim : 4/11/2021 6:14 pm : link
This is clearly a seller's market. I think Buch and Strome could and should net a huge haul each.


Foligno has 16 points in 42 games and netted a first and two fourths

Strome has 37 points in 40 games, and he's signed to a reasonable deal next year. Buchnevich has 35 points in 39 games and is an RFA at the end of the year. They're also both much younger than Foligno.
Doogs: Doesn't agree with you guys on Colin Blackwell  
ColHowPepper : 4/11/2021 7:02 pm : link
https://twitter.com/RonDuguay10/status/1381248776774557697

calls him team's inspiration

Igor in net tonight
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Mike in NY : 4/11/2021 7:42 pm : link
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Canadiens Montréal
@CanadiensMTL
The Canadiens have acquired defenseman Jon Merrill from the Detroit Red Wings, in return for a fifth-round pick in 2021 and forward Hayden Verbeek.



Is Merrill really that much of an upgrade over Mete?


He has a positive +/- I believe despite solid minutes on an awful team
Isles acquire Braydon Coburn  
St. Jimmy : 4/11/2021 11:06 pm : link
for a 2022 7th round pick.
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Foligno is a solid pick up  
5BowlsSoon : 4/11/2021 11:15 pm : link
I believe this is the kind of player the Leafs need....tough gritty guys with experience....in the playoffs.

This is not a ho him yawn trade.....this is a trade that can push the Leafs over the top to win that game 7 they usually lose.
My 2 cents on the Merrill trade  
5BowlsSoon : 4/11/2021 11:19 pm : link
Merrill is a solid Dman who plays good d, can move the puck up, and can play either side. Like pj said, he is also big, but not heavy.

I don’t think little Mete is worth crying a tear over. Merrill is more needed, although, I’m sure he will be on the Habs 3rd line of defense.
Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston  
Anakim : 4/11/2021 11:48 pm : link
Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork
Anak  
MookGiants : 4/12/2021 12:05 am : link
still hellbent on trading Buch I see
RE: Anak  
Anakim : 4/12/2021 12:06 am : link
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still hellbent on trading Buch I see


Not because of play, but because of cost
RE: Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 7:33 am : link
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Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork


brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.

Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?
Done deal  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 8:03 am : link
Buffalo Sabres
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We have acquired forward Anders Bjork and a second-round pick in the 2021 NHL Draft from the Boston Bruins in exchange for forwards Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar.
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Anakim : 4/12/2021 8:50 am : link
Darren Dreger
@DarrenDreger

Teams haven’t been shy in shopping their cap space. NJD, Det and SJ have all been used as a broker to remedy cap issues to this point. The NYR have approximately $9 mil in space and are among those clubs willing to facilitate financially complex trades as well.
RE: RE: Sounds like Taylor Hall and Curtis Lazar may be headed to Boston  
Stu11 : 4/12/2021 8:53 am : link
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Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork



brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.

Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?

This just isn't 2017 Taylor Hall any more. Since his knee injury 2 years ago he hasn't been the same player.
lol  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 8:56 am : link
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Mike Pfeil
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hearing john tortorella has already benched the draft pick the blue jackets got for foligno
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Anakim : 4/12/2021 8:57 am : link
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Mike Pfeil
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hearing john tortorella has already benched the draft pick the blue jackets got for foligno



Haha, I heard that Laine might be moved again!

There's no way Torts returns next year.
Laine  
pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 9:00 am : link
needs confidence, he's a goal scorer, hard ass coaching isn't always the right approach.

I would take Laine or Pierre Luc Dubois on my team any day

RE: The Devils made another move  
Stu11 : 4/12/2021 9:00 am : link
In comment 15216597 Jay on the Island said:
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They acquired LD Jonas Siegenthaler from Washington in exchange for a 2021 3rd round pick(Conditional Arizona pick).

Jay I know he is an up and coming UFA and older so of course we'll probably deal Kulikov, but honestly I would love to see the Devils offer him a 2 year extension. Now maybe he wants to go to a contender and that's fine. However he's been real solid and with the shit show that is our defense I think we should be looking at keep the few quality ones we have. You need a couple of vets to steady the ship. You can't have a team of 20-23 year olds.
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 9:04 am : link
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Sabres rumored to get a second rounder and Anders Bjork



brutal. Buffalo is just a massive shit show, Bjork has been a healthy scratch often.

Hall is maybe the best player to be moved this deadline and you get a 2nd round pick and a fringe player?


This just isn't 2017 Taylor Hall any more. Since his knee injury 2 years ago he hasn't been the same player.


I think he's the same player or close to it, but I think his 2017 season was an outlier. I remember we (not you and me, but people on here in general) argued about Hart. He may have deserved it for his performance that year, but I wasn't convinced MacKinnon wasn't more worthy.

He's just on a shitty team and losing is contagious.

What happened to Jeff Skinner?
Taylor Hall  
ColHowPepper : 4/12/2021 9:14 am : link
Outright theft by BOS. I agree with pj, Hall has looked good to me, skates well, powerful, creates offensive zone opportunities, have to be aware of him at all times. Seen quite a bit of him with this concentrated schedule. smh
RE: Laine  
Jay on the Island : 4/12/2021 9:26 am : link
In comment 15217203 pjcas18 said:
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needs confidence, he's a goal scorer, hard ass coaching isn't always the right approach.

I would take Laine or Pierre Luc Dubois on my team any day

I would love to see the Devils acquire Laine. I think he would do very well next to Hischier or Hughes.
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pjcas18 : 4/12/2021 10:16 am : link
Phylippe Bernard
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Mantha, Bertuzzi, Garland all available. Those are big names
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Hall must be an enormous pita  
JonC : 4/12/2021 10:49 am : link
given no one wants to keep him around despite his talent.

Count me in on trading Blackwell, if equitable. Sell high, don't want yet another bottom six vet blocking a young talent. Could he be needed for the Kraken draft list?
RE: Hall must be an enormous pita  
ColHowPepper : 4/12/2021 11:43 am : link
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given no one wants to keep him around despite his talent.
Cassidy might be just the guy to set his head straight if what you say is right.
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chopperhatch : 4/12/2021 12:09 pm : link
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Blackwell is 28 years old and including this year has played in 64 NHL games, I will rest comfortably if he's on my opponent overlooking him in the playoffs.

Blackwell's 26.1% shooting percentage is so unsustainable I'd trade him today for a 4th round pick and be happy.




I agree pj. CB is playing over his head at this point. My thinking was only that he is hot right now and could do really well for a team in the playoffs. Hence the "what could we get for him" comment



Yeah, I agree and I'm terrible at predicting trade value and contract value. I see players go for a 1st I think are bottom 6 players and players I think can be significant contributors go for less.

mind boggling some times, so I stopped predicting.


Which tells me to not trade him. Lethim stay and either build more value for a better deal, or keep him to be a functional piece.
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