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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/11/2021 6:52 pm
8 PM start on a Sunday...uh, okay. Toronto has been pure trash this last month or so & no FVV or Anunoby tonight for the Tampa Raptors. Lowry is back after missing some time with a toe infection.

Let's keep the mojo going from Friday night's ballsy win! I'm guessing the starters will be Payton, Bullock, RJ, Julius, & Noel. LFG!

Also, I was flipping back & forth earlier between the Masters & Cs-Nuggets. Boston went on a 31-3 run (yes, you read that right) to beat Denver by double digits. The Nuggets bench was pure trash to end the 3rd/start the 4th & the starters weren't much better when Malone sent them back in. We're 1 1/2 back of Boston for the 7th seed.
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hahaha  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2021 10:14 pm : link
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Moving screens all over the place for the Raptors  
CooperDash : 4/11/2021 10:16 pm : link
I have no idea what NBA refs even call anymore. All calls are completely subjective in this sport.
Total meltdown.  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2021 10:18 pm : link
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get off the court  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2021 10:18 pm : link
getting embarrassed by a bunch of scrubs
I'm glad Bullock finds that funny.  
robbieballs2003 : 4/11/2021 10:19 pm : link
Douche.
RE: Moving screens all over the place for the Raptors  
kelsto811 : 4/11/2021 10:20 pm : link
In comment 15217017 CooperDash said:
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I have no idea what NBA refs even call anymore. All calls are completely subjective in this sport.


That's why it's the hardest sport to watch. Consistently inconsistent
Some ugly ball happening right now  
steve in ky : 4/11/2021 10:21 pm : link
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They generously  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2021 10:22 pm : link
took three points off the board. We’ll take it.
RE: get off the court  
CooperDash : 4/11/2021 10:22 pm : link
In comment 15217019 nygiants16 said:
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getting embarrassed by a bunch of scrubs


Listen, I agree. But when the opposing team scores a quick 5 points off of clear fouls (moving screens) what hell are you supposed to do? The worst officiating of any sport, by a really large margin. The NBA game today makes absolutely zero sense.
RE: RE: Moving screens all over the place for the Raptors  
CooperDash : 4/11/2021 10:28 pm : link
In comment 15217021 kelsto811 said:
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In comment 15217017 CooperDash said:


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I have no idea what NBA refs even call anymore. All calls are completely subjective in this sport.



That's why it's the hardest sport to watch. Consistently inconsistent


Yup, I don’t even get pissed anymore. It’s just a joke. I’ll watch it sporadically these days just because I love the Knicks, but the refs make themselves too much a part of the game. The refs subjective officiating is what decides the outcomes of games, not the teams.

And...Noel has the worst hands in the history of the NBA.
HE FELL DOWN ASSHOLES!!!!  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/11/2021 10:34 pm : link
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What a horrible call  
KevinBBWC : 4/11/2021 10:34 pm : link
Such BS he fell down.
Lol, what a shit show  
CooperDash : 4/11/2021 10:36 pm : link
Quality NBA
RJ BARRETT!!!!!’  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/11/2021 10:37 pm : link
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CLUTCH GENE!!  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2021 10:37 pm : link
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Rowan!  
bceagle05 : 4/11/2021 10:38 pm : link
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RJ is going to be a star in this league.  
CooperDash : 4/11/2021 10:38 pm : link
He’s so good already.
These refs just assume something happens  
steve in ky : 4/11/2021 10:38 pm : link
Even if they don’t see it happen
RJ bitch!  
adamg : 4/11/2021 10:38 pm : link
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RJ  
Mike from SI : 4/11/2021 10:39 pm : link
Is gonna be a good player
RE: RJ  
robbieballs2003 : 4/11/2021 10:43 pm : link
In comment 15217043 Mike from SI said:
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Is gonna be a good player


Too late, he already is.
Two big double dribbles in this one  
adamg : 4/11/2021 10:45 pm : link
weird
Great hustle by Bullock there  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2021 10:45 pm : link
caused that double dribble
RE: Great hustle by Bullock there  
Vanzetti : 4/11/2021 10:47 pm : link
In comment 15217048 nygiants16 said:
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caused that double dribble


Bullock is a hard nosed defender. Limited player but never cheats the fans by half adding it
And again RJ doesn't get enough looks  
adamg : 4/11/2021 10:47 pm : link
19 points on 12 shots
Give credit to Raptors  
ryanmkeane : 4/11/2021 10:48 pm : link
for fighting back. 18 point lead in the NBA feels like 7 or 8. Take these wins anyway you can get them. Bad stretch for a lot of the second half but they came out really strong
not pretty but  
Del Shofner : 4/11/2021 10:49 pm : link
will take it
You know I may be open  
Jon in NYC : 4/11/2021 10:49 pm : link
to Lowry as a FA. He's 35 but he probably has two more solid years left. 17-7-5 this year with very solid %s.
Are the Raptors going  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2021 10:50 pm : link
to match anything for Trent?

Would you throw money at Ball and Trent?

Ball, Trent, Rj, Randle, Mitch, is not to bad
RE: Are the Raptors going  
Jon in NYC : 4/11/2021 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15217055 nygiants16 said:
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to match anything for Trent?

Would you throw money at Ball and Trent?

Ball, Trent, Rj, Randle, Mitch, is not to bad


I just hate going after RFAs so much. You have basically 0 power throughout the process and it usually doesn't end well.
I don't think it's a given as to who in 5 years is going to be viewed  
Del Shofner : 4/11/2021 10:57 pm : link
as the best among Zion, Ja and RJ. I think we're now seeing why RJ was so highly regarded. He's turning into a real pro with all the skills and killer instinct.
RE: RE: Are the Raptors going  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2021 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15217057 Jon in NYC said:
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to match anything for Trent?

Would you throw money at Ball and Trent?

Ball, Trent, Rj, Randle, Mitch, is not to bad



I just hate going after RFAs so much. You have basically 0 power throughout the process and it usually doesn't end well.


yeah i do to, but the best free agents are restricted this year, not counting Kawhi
RE: I don't think it's a given as to who in 5 years is going to be viewed  
Jon in NYC : 4/11/2021 11:00 pm : link
In comment 15217058 Del Shofner said:
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as the best among Zion, Ja and RJ. I think we're now seeing why RJ was so highly regarded. He's turning into a real pro with all the skills and killer instinct.


Ja seems to have stepped back which is strange, but Zion is taking a leap it seems like. Points the last 7 games: 38, 37, 16, 34, 28, 38, 39
RE: RE: I don't think it's a given as to who in 5 years is going to be viewed  
Del Shofner : 4/11/2021 11:03 pm : link
In comment 15217061 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 15217058 Del Shofner said:


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as the best among Zion, Ja and RJ. I think we're now seeing why RJ was so highly regarded. He's turning into a real pro with all the skills and killer instinct.



Ja seems to have stepped back which is strange, but Zion is taking a leap it seems like. Points the last 7 games: 38, 37, 16, 34, 28, 38, 39


No question on Zion's talent, I just think he's an injury risk. If he's not, no question he'll be beasting.
RE: RE: I don't think it's a given as to who in 5 years is going to be viewed  
nygiants16 : 4/11/2021 11:06 pm : link
In comment 15217061 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 15217058 Del Shofner said:


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as the best among Zion, Ja and RJ. I think we're now seeing why RJ was so highly regarded. He's turning into a real pro with all the skills and killer instinct.



Ja seems to have stepped back which is strange, but Zion is taking a leap it seems like. Points the last 7 games: 38, 37, 16, 34, 28, 38, 39


They are basically playing him at point, he has the ball in his hands basically every time down on offense
How many shots does Zion get?  
adamg : 4/11/2021 11:09 pm : link
RJ is getting 10-15. He needs a lot more to get to 30 points.
We might trade the pick, but how would you all feel about trading down  
adamg : 4/11/2021 11:19 pm : link
in the second for a future second and taking Garza?

Seems like we could use an offensive big.
RE: Are the Raptors going  
adamg : 4/11/2021 11:24 pm : link
In comment 15217055 nygiants16 said:
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to match anything for Trent?

Would you throw money at Ball and Trent?

Ball, Trent, Rj, Randle, Mitch, is not to bad


Wouldn't mind those moves at all. That's a young core to build around with picks and we can move guys if a star wants in. Rather slightly overpay ascending under 25 yo talent than spend 2/50 on Lowry tbh.
RE: How many shots does Zion get?  
CooperDash : 4/11/2021 11:24 pm : link
In comment 15217066 adamg said:
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RJ is getting 10-15. He needs a lot more to get to 30 points.


Zion is in the 15-20 range most of the time. Sometimes even less. But his efficiency is off the charts. Almost 62% shooting percentage. Plus, he gets to the line a lot.
Plus Obi and IQ if they take second year leaps  
adamg : 4/11/2021 11:25 pm : link
Coming off the bench. Re-sign Noel, Bullock, and Rose. Plus three decent draft picks.
RE: RE: How many shots does Zion get?  
adamg : 4/11/2021 11:27 pm : link
In comment 15217076 CooperDash said:
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In comment 15217066 adamg said:


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RJ is getting 10-15. He needs a lot more to get to 30 points.



Zion is in the 15-20 range most of the time. Sometimes even less. But his efficiency is off the charts. Almost 62% shooting percentage. Plus, he gets to the line a lot.


Wow. You're right. His efficiency is crazy.
Zion is a once in a lifetime player. Absolutely unique.  
Heisenberg : 4/12/2021 8:11 am : link
Can't compare RJ to that.

But RJ is already really really good. And he is constantly getting better. He's going to develop into an all star caliber player and he was absolutely the right pick. This is not a Knox or Frank situation where better players were taken later. He's the right guy and a cornerstone player.
yeah i dont think there will be a debate on...  
Italianju : 4/12/2021 8:27 am : link
the best of those 3. It will be Zion, thats not a knock on RJ at all. I mean Melo and Wade werent Lebron but they werent exactly bad picks!

I def think that RJ could end up the second best player in the draft. Ja is solid for sure, but i havent seen anything that makes me think he is a lock star that RJ could never reach. The improvements that RJ has made in one season (despite not getting a full season last year, weird offseason with covid, etc..) is amazing. We all said that if he could improve his shooting he had star (superstar?) potential. Well he has def improved it.
Honestly, I want RJ to take more shots as well..  
Jan in DC : 4/12/2021 10:10 am : link
but I think the fact that his efficiency has been so good this year is because he is concentrating on taking good shots, within the offense.

I've been really impressed with his vision and dishing these past few games as well as his shot selection.

As for Noel, he's been a great addition. I don't know how much I want to pay for him going forward, as he and Mitch have basically the same skillset, but if you can get both of them long term, while still bringing in a max player, then I would love to keep him.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2021 10:12 am : link
Provided he stays healthy...Zion will be all time great. I think he has that potential.
Randle takes so much pressure off of Rj  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2021 10:24 am : link
I get wanting to give rj more shots but right now Rj is in a perfect spot
RE: Are the Raptors going  
TyreeHelmet : 4/12/2021 10:28 am : link
In comment 15217055 nygiants16 said:
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to match anything for Trent?

Would you throw money at Ball and Trent?

Ball, Trent, Rj, Randle, Mitch, is not to bad


I like it a lot. Its always ricky with restricted free agents, but I would much rather "steal" a young player away on his 2nd contract then sign an older player.

But I would love to come away this summer with Ball and Trent Jr. It would be very surprising if the Knicks rolled the cap space over another year...
If you want to scare yourself to death  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2021 10:30 am : link
think about where we'd be if we didn't stay in the top three to take RJ that year - who are we taking at four or five? Culver? Garland? Ntilikina, Knox, Culver and Toppin (who's looking better) in four straight lotteries would have been brutal.
RE: Randle takes so much pressure off of Rj  
Heisenberg : 4/12/2021 10:32 am : link
In comment 15217343 nygiants16 said:
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I get wanting to give rj more shots but right now Rj is in a perfect spot


I agree with this 100 pct. There will probably be a time when RJ could be the focal point of the offense. But right now, Randle does a good job of shouldering that load and yes, that leaves RJ in a perfect spot where he's getting plenty of opportunities without the pressure of being "The guy" every time down the court.
id love to get trent....  
Italianju : 4/12/2021 11:13 am : link
id rather him then Ball. Trent is a legit 40% 3pt shooter who has gotten better every year. He is also still only 22 (will be 22 for like half of next season as well). I know TOR only really gave up Powell for him, but i dont see them letting him walk for nothing. Ive said the same about Ball, its just not good business. You can match a deal and then look to move these guys later if you want. But def sign me up for both. That team would be good with a chance to grow and get better

Ball (23), Trent (22), RJ (20), Randle (26), Mitch (23). Like i think that team can be a top 4 seed in the east and they are still kids. Does Randle or RJ become the kind of guy that can lead them to a finals, who knows, but id take my chances with that lineup.
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