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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/11/2021 6:52 pm
8 PM start on a Sunday...uh, okay. Toronto has been pure trash this last month or so & no FVV or Anunoby tonight for the Tampa Raptors. Lowry is back after missing some time with a toe infection.

Let's keep the mojo going from Friday night's ballsy win! I'm guessing the starters will be Payton, Bullock, RJ, Julius, & Noel. LFG!

Also, I was flipping back & forth earlier between the Masters & Cs-Nuggets. Boston went on a 31-3 run (yes, you read that right) to beat Denver by double digits. The Nuggets bench was pure trash to end the 3rd/start the 4th & the starters weren't much better when Malone sent them back in. We're 1 1/2 back of Boston for the 7th seed.
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Ugh, not another Dookie  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2021 11:17 am : link
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Zion  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2021 11:22 am : link
is a freak, people can nitpick but he's every bit as special as some suggested he might be. That's no knock on RJ but wow.
Going  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2021 11:24 am : link
to take a massive sheet to snipe Trent Jr. Not saying he's not worth it but easily in the 20ish range.
RE: If you want to scare yourself to death  
Chris684 : 4/12/2021 11:24 am : link
In comment 15217351 bceagle05 said:
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think about where we'd be if we didn't stay in the top three to take RJ that year - who are we taking at four or five? Culver? Garland? Ntilikina, Knox, Culver and Toppin (who's looking better) in four straight lotteries would have been brutal.


I know a lot of people were doom and gloom about that draft lottery, and I get it having missed out on Zion. But that new draft lottery system sucks and the Knicks actually beat the odds by staying in the top 3 that night and thankfully so.
They would have been fine at 4 if they had taken Hunter  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2021 11:27 am : link
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RE: Going  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2021 11:34 am : link
In comment 15217419 DanMetroMan said:
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to take a massive sheet to snipe Trent Jr. Not saying he's not worth it but easily in the 20ish range.


I figured as much
RE: Zion  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2021 11:37 am : link
In comment 15217416 DanMetroMan said:
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is a freak, people can nitpick but he's every bit as special as some suggested he might be. That's no knock on RJ but wow.


Yeah. All comes down to health with Zion. Man he is good.
Trent  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2021 11:39 am : link
turned down about 15 per before the season, then broke out. Similar players are in the 20 range. I'd be very surprised if he's not at roughly 4 for 80 (and the Raptors may well match).
RE: Trent  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2021 11:42 am : link
In comment 15217450 DanMetroMan said:
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turned down about 15 per before the season, then broke out. Similar players are in the 20 range. I'd be very surprised if he's not at roughly 4 for 80 (and the Raptors may well match).


4 for 100 for both Lonzo and Trent and Toronto still might match
RE: They would have been fine at 4 if they had taken Hunter  
bceagle05 : 4/12/2021 11:44 am : link
In comment 15217427 Greg from LI said:
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That's true, but I think they were intrigued by Garland and even brought him in for a workout shortly before the draft when they were locked into the three spot.
Zion is one of a kind  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2021 11:49 am : link
And I certainly would have been thrilled to have him, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see his career be hampered by lower body injuries
Great detail article on how RJ is improving  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/12/2021 11:51 am : link
This goes beyond just shooting percentages. Also goes into defensive stuff.

https://premiumhoops.org/2021/04/11/rj-barrett-is-controlling-the-driving-lanes-on-both-ends/amp/?__twitter_impression=true
RE: Zion is one of a kind  
DanMetroMan : 4/12/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15217469 Greg from LI said:
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And I certainly would have been thrilled to have him, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see his career be hampered by lower body injuries


More than his outside shot (which he has proven would be more of a luxury than a need) his durability (knees in particular) is the biggest concern.
I would still be concerned with his weight.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/12/2021 11:53 am : link
He's a large guy who could stand to get leaner. Will not age well.
RE: I would still be concerned with his weight.  
Jon in NYC : 4/12/2021 11:58 am : link
In comment 15217474 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He's a large guy who could stand to get leaner. Will not age well.


Especially in a sport with so much jumping. 300 LBs of stress on the knees won't be good.
RE: I would still be concerned with his weight.  
nygiants16 : 4/12/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15217474 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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He's a large guy who could stand to get leaner. Will not age well.


He always looks like he is in pain when he runs
RE: Zion is one of a kind  
chopperhatch : 4/12/2021 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15217469 Greg from LI said:
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And I certainly would have been thrilled to have him, but I still wouldn't be surprised to see his career be hampered by lower body injuries


This.

Guy's game thrives on speed and being above the rim. Only Shaq has had that body type and sustained it.
Even shaq was lean when he was young.  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/12/2021 12:15 pm : link
Zion fast forwarded to lakers Shaq.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/12/2021 12:19 pm : link
Orlando Shaq ran the court like a deer.
RE: They would have been fine at 4 if they had taken Hunter  
Stu11 : 4/12/2021 2:54 pm : link
In comment 15217427 Greg from LI said:
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Yep he was having a real breakout year before the knee injury. Also Garland is much improved this year and as a pure pg I think we would have been fine with him at 4 as well.
RE: ...  
Greg from LI : 4/12/2021 3:33 pm : link
In comment 15217503 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Orlando Shaq ran the court like a deer.


Yes. Rookie Shaq looked like this



Rookie Shaq weighed about the same as Zion but at six inches taller.
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