- Jordan Raanan says the Giants have done extensive work on Georgia EDGE, Azeez Ojulari.
- Jordan Raanan spoke to a bunch of sources who unanimously said Chase, Pitts & Sewell are lock Top 10 Picks that won't be available to the Giants at #11.
- Jordan Raanan says the 2 pass rushers that peak the Giants interest the most at #11 are Azeez Ojulari & Kwity Paye.
- Jordan Raanan believe it makes all the sense in the world this year more than most to trade back into the late teens and draft a pass rusher in the 1st Round.
- If Patrick Surtain is there at #11, that is a name that intrigues the Giants, per Jordan Raanan
- Jordan Raanan said that he would be surprised if the Giants select Micah Parsons
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If Smith is gone, I'd be very happy if they traded down and took a pass rusher. It'd be very hard to pass on Smith. But if they trade down and get another 2nd-round pick, they could get a very good WR prospect in the 2nd: Terrace Marshall, Dyami Brown, maybe Rashod Bateman or Kadarius Toney if they fall.
Just draft the right guys. No more busts.
If Raanan is getting outside info on prospects then I will not discount any of that info. But anything coming from inside the Giants organization I do not believe even if it sounds correct.
Spill, JonC. What do you know? Lol
Nah, I've seen enough.
Kwity Paye might also be a solid pick, but I think he's a Kiwanuka clone, and career trajectory could be very similar. Not bad, but also not remarkable.
Kwity Paye might also be a solid pick, but I think he's a Kiwanuka clone, and career trajectory could be very similar. Not bad, but also not remarkable.
I’d hate to look at the inside of Phillips’ head and I’m not even a neurologist/neurosurgeon.
Kwity Paye might also be a solid pick, but I think he's a Kiwanuka clone, and career trajectory could be very similar. Not bad, but also not remarkable.
Yeah, but Phillips already walked away from the game once. You might say he had cause to do so, but the Giants can ill-afford to have their #1 pick be off the team in a year or two.
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That they're hot on ER Jaelen Phillips. I feel like we are desperate for a guy with his ability, and there's noone close.
Kwity Paye might also be a solid pick, but I think he's a Kiwanuka clone, and career trajectory could be very similar. Not bad, but also not remarkable.
Yeah, but Phillips already walked away from the game once. You might say he had cause to do so, but the Giants can ill-afford to have their #1 pick be off the team in a year or two.
I totally get your take, it's valid. As fans, we can't really dive into the unknowns that are far less unknown to those inside the building. The concussion thing is freaky, but it's guaranteed that some team is going to take a chance on him and will likely be rewarded significantly.
If I was GM, I'd take a shot from the hip this year considering it is all but a complete punt of a draft.
All of the pundits are now mocking the 3 QBs, and Pitts/Sewell/Chase at 1-6. It would only take one QB needy team or one of the non-Sewell OLine/CBs into the 4-6 that would change the dynamics of the order. Car/Den would be nice landing spots this year - IMO worth a 3rd round pick or so.
With that said, I have a hard time believing that one of Smith/Waddle will not be there at #11 before CB/Edge is in play.
Do they look at more film?
Do they interview acquaintances?
Do they look at more medicals?
Do they have them in for a personal visit?
thank you.
Maybe it's possible that the Giants have caught on to what other teams have been doing for years and that's using the media to set up smoke screens.
I think in the past I think they have been guilty of having leaks and have telegraphed their picks.
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That they're hot on ER Jaelen Phillips. I feel like we are desperate for a guy with his ability, and there's noone close.
Kwity Paye might also be a solid pick, but I think he's a Kiwanuka clone, and career trajectory could be very similar. Not bad, but also not remarkable.
Yeah, but Phillips already walked away from the game once. You might say he had cause to do so, but the Giants can ill-afford to have their #1 pick be off the team in a year or two.
+1. I'm also inclined to say no to Waddle because of his foot.
But the Giants are in the position they are in because they've botched so many draft picks. Adoree Jackson was signed because they screwed up the Deandre Baker pick.
If the Giants didn't screw up so many picks in recent years, they could afford to take more chances.
For example - it appeared NYG did almost none of that with Flowers and Apple
yep, he did say that. i guess i'm just surprised. they are always the team that can put up 30 points a game but they lose 38-31
For example - it appeared NYG did almost none of that with Flowers and Apple
So something unique maybe to Judge or at least something most teams do on players they are considering at their draft spot?
They're chasing offensive weapons to keep Ryan effective in his later years.
I'm all for this scenario.
If the Giants feel like Smith is such a difference maker and he's there at #11, I'm okay taking him. Otherwise trade down (hello, NE), draft Paye or Ojulari and pick up Dyami Brown or someone else who can stretch the field in round 2. The other round 2 pick should go based on value (either LB or IOL). Personally, I think there's greater depth in the IOL class that this position can wait until the 3rd round and LB will be the better mesh between BPA and need in round 2.
Judge and the front office want to identify guys that are gonna put in the extra stuff. Andrew Thomas had a rough start, but if you notice in his interviews he is ALWAYS mentioning getting better with technique, changes, and coaching
Ojualari at 11 would be a total remote thrower for me. A 6' 2" Edge who runs a 4.6 40 vs. an amazing prospect like Jaelan Phillips? Watch Ojulari's "highlights" vs. Bama in 2020. On more than half of the reps he's either overmatched or completely out of play.
Watching Phillips and then Ojulari is like watching Deacon Jones and then Cedric Jones.
Yeah, if they want to take an ER, trade down.
15% Trade back for edge/Paye/Ojulari
10% Surtain (I don't think he makes it to 11)
that would be awesome
15% Trade back for edge/Paye/Ojulari
10% Surtain (I don't think he makes it to 11)
Gut feeling / hope - bump that 15% to much higher.
As much as I like Smith, a draft of Edge Kwitty Paye, WR Dyami Brown, LB Jamin Davis or Pete Werner, and then say IOL Ben Cleveland is to me, a homerun draft.
Don't think Surtain is top 5 caliber. But if they aren't moving on from Ryan you might as well give him something to work with. Jones can't be counted on for 16/17 games anymore and Ridley is set to be paid - could they offload him for picks to re-tool post Ryan next year?
So, maybe it isn't flashy, but Paye is not a reach at 11
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I never thought Phillips or Rousseau would be this staff's radar as much as Reese's.
Roche OTOH, maybe.
Judge and the front office want to identify guys that are gonna put in the extra stuff. Andrew Thomas had a rough start, but if you notice in his interviews he is ALWAYS mentioning getting better with technique, changes, and coaching
Thanks, makes sense
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I heard an interview with him and he exuded all that stuff. Was hoping that he'd take next step this year, doubt it happens, but he still should have a productive long career ala tedd ginn Jr.