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George from PA : 4/13/2021 8:57 am
Is it me or has the QB draft market gone crazy? Unless this is the best all time QB class…. some teams are making very large mistakes.

Sirius NFL radio was praising SF????? Giving up 2 extra 1st and 3rd for the 3rd QB taken in the draft…. what am I missing? Now, there is talk of Washington giving up all their draft picks for the 4th/5th QB……lets be thankful.

I have no idea yet if Daniel Jones will be the Giants franchise QB…but as a prospect…. he is as good or better than most of these guys. Kudos to the Chargers, Giants and even Miami to find their young QBs without this frenzy.

Speaking of Daniel Jones, I am all for adding targets for Jones and more OL help and this is a great draft for both WRs and OL. if its me.... in the 1st RD…

What qualifies an Edge? Or better yet, what makes a DE or OLB an edge? Do they just specialize in rushing the passer? I do not think the Giants are looking for a DE “Edge” …. their DEs are Williams and Lawrence.

So for the Giants, it is an OLB who rushes the passer…but ideally one that does more then that…. I think I understand what Graham defense wants to do…..confuse, cover and attack. We keep hearing “Multiple”.

If qualified as such….imo, the best EDGE in this class and the only “blue chip” defensive player is Micah Parsons. I can not put him in the LT class…..but this guy is an animal. I know…. he has anger issue (but what is wrong with that? So did LT). I might be reading this all wrong…..but here is my thought.

Micah would not reach the Giants at 11 ( the same as his hand size)….if not for mysterious “character issues” and Opt-out in my opinion. My understanding it was a hazing incident that went too far…..and if you understand Penn St these days…..it is hyper-sensitive to any negative news (Understandably) and he opted out because it and unfortunately, the Penn St, defense went with him.

He might be a handful as Coach Chaos said…but well worth it. I believe Parson could be the final piece to that defense……bringing back the glory days.

The Giants sent a large contingent to Penn St…word leaked out, it’s for “Oweh, not Parsons”. Come on? Really….. felt like smoke.

I might be totally off base…..it would not surprise me one bit if the Giants draft Micah Parson. BBI and the Giants fans will fall in love with his game. ILB, OLB or Edge, he will fit anywhere, just like Graham likes 😊.

I know many want a TOP WR or OL…..and I do not claim to be an expert but there are plenty of interesting players throughout draft that can be had. I wouldn’t be surprised a TE get chosen earlier, as that pool dries up much quicker.

I love what Sy brings to BBI and Thank you. For additional information and cross reference, the Beast by Dane Brugler in the Athletic is an amazing draft guide.
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RE: RE: Execs are right with QB  
AcidTest : 4/13/2021 4:36 pm : link
In comment 15218615 Optimus-NY said:
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In comment 15218532 AcesUp said:


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It's an equalizer, an elite QB and coaching are the only things that can mask a mediocre roster and connecting on a rookie QB is a cheat code on the cap.

The Jets are absolutely doing the right thing with Darnold/Wilson and it has just as much to do with the contract than the players. Darnold may turn it around although the odds are dwindling for him. Even if he does? You're paying him a mega contract in 2 years time while you are still trying to build the roster around him. Where is the upside? As of right now, you have a brand new coaching staff and are sitting at a spot with a great QB prospect that does not require a trade up. Roll the dice with Wilson and if you hit? You've got him locked in for 4-5 years at a discount with a bevvy of picks and a full chamber in cap money to spend.



Exactly. The Jets aren't crazy to do what they're gonna do. It's logical.


+2.
My  
AcidTest : 4/13/2021 4:40 pm : link
guess is that the Giants will pass on Parsons. Waddle is the real question. Will they take him even though his foot has not completely healed? I would not, especially since I assume he had plates and screws inserted as part of his surgery.

I still think it's Smith or Paye in that order, with the slight possibility of a trade down.
Giants traded to get Jones  
SgtDog : 4/13/2021 5:01 pm : link
Good insight George.

A team can take every precaution to avoid a bust and still select a bust. I think for Judge the deciding factor after sifting through all the films, measurables, stats etc it will be the player who appears the most coachable team player. I would think Judge would be able to gauge this of Parsons and others by meeting and speaking to them.

Teams can trade draft picks or wins in order to move up in the draft and the Giants have been aggressively trading wins. Personally I prefer trading picks if you have a team has a definitive target.
RE: Giants traded to get Jones  
Rjanyg : 4/13/2021 5:43 pm : link
In comment 15219340 SgtDog said:
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Good insight George.

A team can take every precaution to avoid a bust and still select a bust. I think for Judge the deciding factor after sifting through all the films, measurables, stats etc it will be the player who appears the most coachable team player. I would think Judge would be able to gauge this of Parsons and others by meeting and speaking to them.

Teams can trade draft picks or wins in order to move up in the draft and the Giants have been aggressively trading wins. Personally I prefer trading picks if you have a team has a definitive target.


The Giants didn’t trade to get Jones. The earned the 6th pick. They traded OBJ for Peppers a 1st and 3rd round pick which turned out to be Dex Lawrence and O Ximines.
RE: By the way -- I also don't get the QB love in this draft  
cokeduplt : 4/13/2021 5:46 pm : link
In comment 15218495 gidiefor said:
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both Jones and Darnold is/were better prospects than every one them except Lawrence

the Jets are crazy to trade Sam and take one of those QBs -- just shows you how bad that FO really is -- while I am not a Darnold fan - I think you try to surround him with the tools he needs and make it work over bringing in a QB that is a lesser talent



They obviously don’t think Wilson is a lesser talent. Darnold isn’t good he will be at best average in Carolina.
Here’s my thing with  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:26 pm : link
Darnold. The guy has talent, obviously has a great arm and can make some things happen outside the pocket. But...he just seems to have zero leadership/moxie type qualities. Just kinda seems like a dud.
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