Game 1
Mets Lineup
Brandon Nimmo – CF
Francisco Lindor – SS
Dominic Smith – LF
Pete Alonso – 1B
Jeff McNeil – 2B
Michael Conforto – RF
James McCann – C
Luis Guillorme – 3B
Taijuan Walker – RHP
Phillies Lineup
Andrew McCutchen – LF
Rhys Hoskins – 1B
Bryce Harper – RF
Alec Bohm – 3B
Didi Gregorius – SS
Jean Segura – 2B
Andrew Knapp – C
Roman Quinn – CF
Chase Anderson – RHP
The Marlins game Saturday it killed them. 1st and 3rd in the first inning. Lindor CS, Conforto K.
lol. Was just going to say the same.
As good as Smith has been, if you are facing Kershaw or another elite lefty you might want to bench one of our OF. Also Pillar is useful I guess if we are playing in an AL ballpark and then you can DH Smith or have Smith play 1B so Alonso can DH
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news just traded for Nimmo because I think he scores 100 runs, bad news... not in my lineup. Dom Smith needs to play every day. Pillar lol.
As good as Smith has been, if you are facing Kershaw or another elite lefty you might want to bench one of our OF. Also Pillar is useful I guess if we are playing in an AL ballpark and then you can DH Smith or have Smith play 1B so Alonso can DH
Sure. But how many "elite" lefties are there? Is Corbin "elite" Not as if there are many starts against such pitchers.
yup offense needs to get on track and carry this team. No excuses this year.
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news just traded for Nimmo because I think he scores 100 runs, bad news... not in my lineup. Dom Smith needs to play every day. Pillar lol.
As good as Smith has been, if you are facing Kershaw or another elite lefty you might want to bench one of our OF. Also Pillar is useful I guess if we are playing in an AL ballpark and then you can DH Smith or have Smith play 1B so Alonso can DH
Sure. But how many "elite" lefties are there? Is Corbin "elite" Not as if there are many starts against such pitchers.
As I said look at Pillar's numbers versus, say, Kershaw and Snell. In a key situation out of the bullpen against someone like Josh Hader or Will Smith I could see it too.
his statcast numbers have been ok - 90 percentile hard hit rate / 66 percentile exit velocity - hopefully just bad luck like mcneil.
That I agree with. Smith should be starting against 95%+ of the lefties in the league. Pillar is for the handful of starts against the others or you need the bat in a PH role
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point is, it's idiotic to sit Dominic Smith against the Matt Moore's of the world because he's lefty. He handles lefties quite well.
That I agree with. Smith should be starting against 95%+ of the lefties in the league. Pillar is for the handful of starts against the others or you need the bat in a PH role
I have zero problem with "Pillar MASHES this lefty, look at the numbers". I have a problem with "this guy is a lefty, time to get Pillar in there". That's what opening day was.
I think you're expecting too much out of Nimmo. His K% was sub 20% last season and has been again so far this year. Pretty rough to both take tons of pitches and strike out less than he does. Only 2 regulars on the team struck out at a lower % than Nimmo last year, McNeil and Cano.
he is just a solid player who won't hurt you too bad with the bat and can play D. If he played every day 2b somewhere I don't think he'd be too far off Wong (except homers).
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he swung at a good 2-1 pitch and it was a good 3-2 pitch, but if he can figure out how to waste that pitch and get himself a pitch to drive his game can go up another level. If he can just get his whiffs down a little bit it would make a big difference.
I think you're expecting too much out of Nimmo. His K% was sub 20% last season and has been again so far this year. Pretty rough to both take tons of pitches and strike out less than he does. Only 2 regulars on the team struck out at a lower % than Nimmo last year, McNeil and Cano.
Maybe. Also im not really expecting it, just think that's an area where he can improve. I think as he gets later into at bats he tries to keep his approach the same as earlier in counts when he should trying to play more of a contact game especially in a situation like that with 2 outs and a hit is a run (and a walk isn't).
If you can get 6 innings from your SP in Game 1 of a DH that sets you up nicely for Game 2 because you only then need 5 innings for it to be similar to getting 6 innings from your SP in a regular game.
defense wins championships.
@AnthonyDiComo
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Despite losing some early ABs to Jonathan Villar, Luis Guillorme really has done nothing but produce when given a chance. With a hit and a walk today, Guillorme owns a...
.359 batting average
.462 on-base percentage
...since the start of 2020. And he hit .313 this spring.
@AnthonyDiComo
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Despite losing some early ABs to Jonathan Villar, Luis Guillorme really has done nothing but produce when given a chance. With a hit and a walk today, Guillorme owns a...
.359 batting average
.462 on-base percentage
...since the start of 2020. And he hit .313 this spring.
If DH ends up happening next year and a spot opens for McNeil in the OF I'd love to see him get a shot playing next to Lindor. That defense up the middle would be fun.
With how Joe West was squeezing him probably was good to remove him although you prefer 5-6 from him
Video of the play. I assume they said he was off the bag and then tackled but I don't know. I don't have the audio.
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Brandon Nimmo has reached base safely at least twice in all six games this season, the other Mets players to accomplish that streak to start a season:
Jose Reyes
David Wright
Jeff Francouer
Mike Cameron
Honestly Philly hasn’t done much today. The Mets offense is failing the team so far this season.
Honestly Philly hasn’t done much today. The Mets offense is failing the team so far this season.
Have to be able to manage around a struggling offense and when these games are winnable, Rojas has shown he has absolutely zero clue how to manage a baseball game. Why was Rojas left in even to face Harper?
We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?
This game has been over for about 1.5 hours
We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?
Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there
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left in I mean.
We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?
Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there
Even if he has to face another batter - what are they going to do, never put him in the game?
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left in I mean.
We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?
Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there
Even if he has to face another batter - what are they going to do, never put him in the game?
No, but if choice is Castro v. Harper or Loup v. Bohm I am taking the former
They hit like paint drying....they can’t pitch, they can’t make plays, they can’t move runners along, they can’t get clutch hits.
Pathetic!
Again I ask - why is this manager still employed?
I don’t even blame the bullpen - the manager has absolutely zero clue how to use them
The guy is clueless and each game he’s the manager will be one wasted.
double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).
I think as long as it’s a near certainty that the guy wouldn’t have to bat, they can use whoever they want
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?
double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).
Ah, I stand corrected
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?
double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).
Ah, ok. Gotcha. Thanks. Didn’t realize the pitcher rule, though it makes sense
Well, a different new guy did. Glad they won that one
Yes. It's the 2nd game of a doubleheader and he can use the rest.
Pillar it is. Villar replaces Guillorme which is a tough call because he did just get GW hit although Guillorme is locked in at the plate right now
this team would be so much better if all games were just 7 innings.
The guy is clueless and each game he’s the manager will be one wasted.
fans who call managers and coaches clueless from the soft couch at their home are so much smarter then everyone else arent they?
And their offense has been terrible!
Nimmo the only guy who is off to a hot start. Every other guy is underperforming so far.
Alonso and Dom have been meh overall, but seem better because of some big hits.
Lindor, McNeil, Conforto, McCann all absolutely brutal.
Guillorme and Villar have done a nice job filling in for JD..but even there we are lacking the power threat that JD brings...
This low level of performance is unsustainable. Best still to come!
Also great to see May and Familia have nice outings.
-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary
-LG needs to play a lot.
-Deolis Guerra for the A's last night 3 innings 5 k's lol
-Wilson Ramos 9 games, 6 homers
-Ex- Met Nabil Crismatt 5 innings 3 er 5 k's for SD last night
-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary
-LG needs to play a lot.
It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.
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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks
-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary
-LG needs to play a lot.
It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.
100%. For whatever reason when they see a guy as X, they take FOREVER to move off of that. They played Todd Frazier, Jose Reyes and Jack Reinheimer over Guillorme
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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks
-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary
-LG needs to play a lot.
It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.
100%. For whatever reason when they see a guy as X, they take FOREVER to move off of that. They played Todd Frazier, Jose Reyes and Jack Reinheimer over Guillorme
They were not wrong with Guillorme early in his career. His ISO was always Rey Ordoñez bad even though he did not strike out much. You really can't have that as an everyday player when you also have a catcher who doesn't deserve to be more than an 8th place hitter as well. Adding a DH will definitely help because you can do Guillorme and McCann as your 8th and 9th hitters. But Guillorme-McCann-Pitcher is too anemic behind Conforto or Smith or McNeill as the 6th place hitter. In 2019 his swing imporved notably. He still does not have HR power and his doubles are still not ideal for anything more than 8th place hitter when he is the only bat like that in the lineup, but at least he is not hitting weak grounder after weak grounder.
"Daniel Wexler
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Really strange to see Jack Reinheimer pass Guillorme on the depth chart. Must have a fan in the organization. Sadly, I expect Guillorme to lose his 40 man spot this off-season #Mets"
Those numbers were in AA. In 2018, his first taste of the majors, he was .209/.284/.239. The carcas of Jose Reyes had a similar OBP and far greater SLG.
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Guillorme .283/.376/.331 with his usual A+ glove work. Career .283/.376/.331. Jack Reinheimer appeared in 21 games for the 2018 Mets with a career .358 slug. C'mon, Guillorme has never been given a fair shake. Concerned about the power? Let that play out. Madrigal is/was one of the top prospects in baseball and has hit 4 homers as a pro
Those numbers were in AA. In 2018, his first taste of the majors, he was .209/.284/.239. The carcas of Jose Reyes had a similar OBP and far greater SLG.
Mike... you're citing...67 ab's over... 35 games played. C'mon, do you really think that's a fair way to judge ANY player? For context Mark Canha already has 47 ab's this season... over 12 games no less.
I am just saying his swing changed between 2018 and 2019 and that was the key to Guillorme's development.
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will have to agree to disagree here.
I am just saying his swing changed between 2018 and 2019 and that was the key to Guillorme's development.
That's fine but are the Mets going to recognize it? Look at McNeil and Nimmo before they got them consistent playing time. They had no idea what they had with those 2.
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will have to agree to disagree here.
I am just saying his swing changed between 2018 and 2019 and that was the key to Guillorme's development.
Sure. But his glove (Paternostro from BP consistently RAVED about his defense)
Jeffrey Paternostro
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Guillorme blows my mind on plays he doesn't even get to. Ranged from behind 2b to about 300 ft up LF line, just missed a sliding backhand.
Jeffrey Paternostro
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Man I’ve seen a lot of middle infielders in the minors in a decade and I don’t think any of them had better hands/actions than Guillorme.
Jeffrey Paternostro
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Been saying for years Guillorme had secret raw pop
To give the Reyes, Reinheimer, Frazier, Panik, Hecheverria types ALL a look before giving him a shot was shortsighted and the Mets in "recent" years have been known for things like this. Underrating their own talent.
The surgery was supposed to happen Spring 2019.
"The Mets signed Lowrie to a two-year, $20 million contract prior to the 2019 season. Lowrie had just eight plate appearances in 2019, and none in 2019. The Salem, Oregon native was diagnosed with a knee fat pad impingement during spring training of 2019, and according to the player, he was threatened with a grievance if he pursued a surgical remedy."
Kyle Glaser
@KyleAGlaser
The Atlantic League, a partner league of MLB, will move the mound back by one foot during the second half of its season, the @washingtonpost
reports. The DH will also be tied to the starting pitcher. Once a team pulls its starter, it loses the DH.
If you were going to gamble on one of these players on waivers being more than fools gold who would it be:
Jed Lowrie
Kyle Seager
Evan Longoria
Adam Eaton
pitchers
Anthony Descalfini
John Gray
thank you in advance
If you were going to gamble on one of these players on waivers being more than fools gold who would it be:
Jed Lowrie
Kyle Seager
Evan Longoria
Adam Eaton
pitchers
Anthony Descalfini
John Gray
thank you in advance
I don't see any reason to believe Seager is "fool's gold" unless you're going to be disappointed with something more like .260 25 90. Gray #1 has been "lucky" notice his XFIP, he's yet to allow a HR and plays for the Rockies, flip side, is there is a very strong change he's traded to a good team at the deadline. DeSclafani in a similar boat, XFIP suggests he's been good but not this good but he 1) Plays in a strong park for his strengths (the Giants are excellent at earmarking suck guys) and also could be on another team at the deadline.
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I get and believe the claim pertaining to last year, but what about 2019? Or why not get it after that offseason. That’s what is confusing to me.
The surgery was supposed to happen Spring 2019.
"The Mets signed Lowrie to a two-year, $20 million contract prior to the 2019 season. Lowrie had just eight plate appearances in 2019, and none in 2019. The Salem, Oregon native was diagnosed with a knee fat pad impingement during spring training of 2019, and according to the player, he was threatened with a grievance if he pursued a surgical remedy."
Took a while to find, I’m not good at this stuff. But was pretty funny reading the thread from one he was first diagnosed as being day to day lol
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I have Machado, Happ, Gimenez, and JD Davis (IL) all who can play 3B plus other positions and Seager can *only* play 3B.
But i picked him up anyway.
I have Machado, Happ, Gimenez, and JD Davis (IL) all who can play 3B plus other positions and Seager can *only* play 3B.
But i picked him up anyway.
I mean, he's not going to hit .317 (.355 BABIP) but just last season 9 homers, 40 rbi, 35 runs over 60 games, so he's a safe bet for 25 85-90 to me. Yes he's 33 but he's also been very durable for his career.
Eric on Li : 2/21/2019 12:44 pm : link
welcome to the mets BVW and Jed!!!! Maybe we'll get some more insurance money back to sign another pitcher.
Verified account @SNYtv
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"We got confirmation that there was no major damage, so that is good news...I want to be out there with the guys on Opening Day."
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"We got confirmation that there was no major damage, so that is good news...I want to be out there with the guys on Opening Day."
PJ,
His injury is/was not considered "major damage".
"That condition occurs when the knee fat pad — located below the kneecap and designed to protect the patellar tendon —becomes swollen and inflamed. "
He alleges he wanted to go with the surgical option, they did not believe this was necessary.
Lowrie got eight plate appearances in 2019, none last season. The Mets declined to allow him to get the knee operation, he says. They threatened him with a grievance. As he sat out the 60-game season, things were unpleasant, and as soon as the Mets were eliminated, Lowrie was free to get the knee procedure, which occurred in October, right around the time Fred and Jeff Wilpon were on their way out as team owners, and Van Wagenen with them. Lowrie had the surgery and he was assured he would be ready to work regularly by the middle of March. “I missed playing so much, it was very difficult,” Lowrie says. “I would love to play two more years, then perhaps work in the business. It’s been my life for a long time, from Stanford to 14 seasons in the major leagues.”
I really hope this is an area where they are using Cohen's $ wisely to upgrade. The FO page on their website hasn't been updated yet but whenever it goes public I'm hoping to see that there are some new names on the training/performance staff. In the last decade+ the only trustable quotes re: NYM were from outside like Altchek and ElAttrache.
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they're re-writing history, the quote below (from the thread) is purportedly from Lowrie - doesn't sound like a guy who wanted surgery and the team nixed it - at least not at that point):
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"We got confirmation that there was no major damage, so that is good news...I want to be out there with the guys on Opening Day."
PJ,
His injury is/was not considered "major damage".
"That condition occurs when the knee fat pad — located below the kneecap and designed to protect the patellar tendon —becomes swollen and inflamed. "
He alleges he wanted to go with the surgical option, they did not believe this was necessary.
I'm just reading the quote from him where he said he wants to be out there opening day, then a quote from him this year where he says he wanted surgery but the Mets said no - those two things are in conflict.
That's a tough call. 5'9 SP are very rare.. but I advocated signing an extension with one in this very thread (Stroman). I I'm going Anderson. Slightly lower ceiling but not that much lower, 100% a SP and no real red flags.
Peanuts compared to taking on the $100m+ of Cano, who was older and coming off the PED issue. Or as it turns out coming off his first but not last PED issue.
my only guess as to why they didn't let him get the surgery is the Wilponzis didn't want him to miss half of the first season right away, were fine with recouping the insurance money, and in complete save $ mode last year knowing they were on the way out the door and getting severely impacted by no fans in ballpark.
Stroman doesn't pitch as fast as Garcia. I would love to keep him (and Noah) here as well. Trade isn't looking as bad, though my big issue with it was always trading prospects for him in combination with letting Wheeler go in FA. Made no sense.
Stroman doesn't pitch as fast as Garcia. I would love to keep him (and Noah) here as well. Trade isn't looking as bad, though my big issue with it was always trading prospects for him in combination with letting Wheeler go in FA. Made no sense.
Oh yeah, Stroman and Garcia are only similar in terms of size. Fangraphs has Anderson 13 and Garcia 60 if that means anything. I don't see anything to concern me with Anderson and while he doesn't throw 99, he sits comfortably 94 and touches as high as 97.
the Mets have a horrific history of injury diagnosis and communication.
it's one of the things I hope changes with Cohen.
Also, I don't know if it was a "Mets" thing per se or if sometimes that nature of injuries and medicine is not always back and white, there is sometimes gray.
regardless if I had to pick a side on who was more forthcoming here it would be Lowrie, but like I said I hope that chapter of not believing anything Mets injury related is behind us.
Did the Wilpons or Brodie make Lowrie be a jerk to fans and the press? He didn't do himself any favors, that's for sure.
I hope to as well, the Pawtucket Red Sox moved to Worcester. Would love to see a Syracuse Mets vs Worcester Red Sox game.
The Mets are in town May 11 - May 16 and again August 10 - 15 - I think to limit travel they have longer series.
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It was pretty stupid for Lo Duca to say that. And I can't stand joe west, but you can't accuse the guy of that and expect not to have some consequences for it.
The paperwork has some interesting info:
(1) Joe West is retiring at the end of this season;
(2) Joe West is going on the lecture circuit; and
(3) Joe West thinks he will be enshrined in Hall of Fame
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The paperwork has some interesting info:
(1) Joe West is retiring at the end of this season;
(2) Joe West is going on the lecture circuit; and
(3) Joe West thinks he will be enshrined in Hall of Fame
He's likely a HOFer. 40 seasons as an MLB ump, will retire with the most games umped in the history of baseball.
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#1 I'm sure he wanted to play regardless of his injury #2 He received a 2nd opinion. Given how strange the Mets comments were his entire time here I think it's a safe assumption they weren't seeing eye to eye. I have a very hard time calling this revisionist. They kept oddly mum the entire time and provided little to no actual updates.
the Mets have a horrific history of injury diagnosis and communication.
it's one of the things I hope changes with Cohen.
Also, I don't know if it was a "Mets" thing per se or if sometimes that nature of injuries and medicine is not always back and white, there is sometimes gray.
regardless if I had to pick a side on who was more forthcoming here it would be Lowrie, but like I said I hope that chapter of not believing anything Mets injury related is behind us.
Rojas just confirmed Lowrie asked the Mets for permission to have surgery.