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NFT: Phillies at Mets Doubleheader

ZGiants98 : 4/13/2021 3:08 pm
Game 1

Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo – CF
Francisco Lindor – SS
Dominic Smith – LF
Pete Alonso – 1B
Jeff McNeil – 2B
Michael Conforto – RF
James McCann – C
Luis Guillorme – 3B
Taijuan Walker – RHP

Phillies Lineup

Andrew McCutchen – LF
Rhys Hoskins – 1B
Bryce Harper – RF
Alec Bohm – 3B
Didi Gregorius – SS
Jean Segura – 2B
Andrew Knapp – C
Roman Quinn – CF
Chase Anderson – RHP
Best lineup  
JB_in_DC : 4/13/2021 3:11 pm : link
of the season so far
yeah, this is the best lineup so far  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 3:35 pm : link
don't know why it took Rojas so long for what fans have been clamoring for for a while. Conforto is streaky. He's cold now. Move him down. If he gets hot, you can always move him back.

The Marlins game Saturday it killed them. 1st and 3rd in the first inning. Lindor CS, Conforto K.
..  
Named Later : 4/13/2021 3:46 pm : link
That was easy to figure out. It only took him 2 weeks into April, plus a full Spring Training and last year's 60 game sprint.
hmm seems like hitting Dom Smith 3rd was a good idea  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 4:24 pm : link
imagine that.
RE: hmm seems like hitting Dom Smith 3rd was a good idea  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 4:24 pm : link
In comment 15219273 Eric on Li said:
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imagine that.


lol. Was just going to say the same.
Good  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:29 pm : link
news just traded for Nimmo because I think he scores 100 runs, bad news... not in my lineup. Dom Smith needs to play every day. Pillar lol.
RE: Good  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 4:31 pm : link
In comment 15219283 DanMetroMan said:
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news just traded for Nimmo because I think he scores 100 runs, bad news... not in my lineup. Dom Smith needs to play every day. Pillar lol.


As good as Smith has been, if you are facing Kershaw or another elite lefty you might want to bench one of our OF. Also Pillar is useful I guess if we are playing in an AL ballpark and then you can DH Smith or have Smith play 1B so Alonso can DH
RE: RE: Good  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:35 pm : link
In comment 15219284 Mike in NY said:
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news just traded for Nimmo because I think he scores 100 runs, bad news... not in my lineup. Dom Smith needs to play every day. Pillar lol.



As good as Smith has been, if you are facing Kershaw or another elite lefty you might want to bench one of our OF. Also Pillar is useful I guess if we are playing in an AL ballpark and then you can DH Smith or have Smith play 1B so Alonso can DH


Sure. But how many "elite" lefties are there? Is Corbin "elite" Not as if there are many starts against such pitchers.
Dom  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:39 pm : link
is also 2/3 with 2 doubles vs. Corbin
Would  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:46 pm : link
be nice to see them score some more runs. Chase Anderson is not good. Drop a 6-7 spot on these guys.
Walker's pitch count a little high from the strikeouts  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 4:47 pm : link
but hard to not be excited about how his stuff looks. For a guy making $7.7m he could turn out to be a steal. Stroman makes more than 2x that and so far he looks like the guy with better stuff.
RE: Would  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15219309 DanMetroMan said:
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be nice to see them score some more runs. Chase Anderson is not good. Drop a 6-7 spot on these guys.


yup offense needs to get on track and carry this team. No excuses this year.
RE: RE: RE: Good  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 4:48 pm : link
In comment 15219290 DanMetroMan said:
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news just traded for Nimmo because I think he scores 100 runs, bad news... not in my lineup. Dom Smith needs to play every day. Pillar lol.



As good as Smith has been, if you are facing Kershaw or another elite lefty you might want to bench one of our OF. Also Pillar is useful I guess if we are playing in an AL ballpark and then you can DH Smith or have Smith play 1B so Alonso can DH



Sure. But how many "elite" lefties are there? Is Corbin "elite" Not as if there are many starts against such pitchers.


As I said look at Pillar's numbers versus, say, Kershaw and Snell. In a key situation out of the bullpen against someone like Josh Hader or Will Smith I could see it too.
McCann  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:48 pm : link
has been cold to open the season. .176/.263/.176, it's been a whopping 5 games but I have far more concern with him being a poor offensive player than Conforto looking like this all year. Would love for McCann to be the real deal.
How  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:49 pm : link
many starts will the Mets see a Snell or Kershaw? You're talking about extreme outlier situations here. I don't see a single "elite" lefty in the entire division. Rogers looked absurd but that was one start.
RE: McCann  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 4:52 pm : link
In comment 15219315 DanMetroMan said:
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has been cold to open the season. .176/.263/.176, it's been a whopping 5 games but I have far more concern with him being a poor offensive player than Conforto looking like this all year. Would love for McCann to be the real deal.


his statcast numbers have been ok - 90 percentile hard hit rate / 66 percentile exit velocity - hopefully just bad luck like mcneil.
My  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:53 pm : link
point is, it's idiotic to sit Dominic Smith against the Matt Moore's of the world because he's lefty. He handles lefties quite well.
Lowrie  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:56 pm : link
1-1 with a walk. Amazing Fred/Jeff/Brodie era wouldn't allow him to get the necessary surgery. Looks like a whole new player for Oakland.
RE: My  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 4:57 pm : link
In comment 15219320 DanMetroMan said:
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point is, it's idiotic to sit Dominic Smith against the Matt Moore's of the world because he's lefty. He handles lefties quite well.


That I agree with. Smith should be starting against 95%+ of the lefties in the league. Pillar is for the handful of starts against the others or you need the bat in a PH role
Guillorme  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:58 pm : link
on base again. 6 times on base in limited PT.
good AB by Nimmo but that's the hole in his game that needs work  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 4:59 pm : link
he swung at a good 2-1 pitch and it was a good 3-2 pitch, but if he can figure out how to waste that pitch and get himself a pitch to drive his game can go up another level. If he can just get his whiffs down a little bit it would make a big difference.
RE: RE: My  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 4:59 pm : link
In comment 15219332 Mike in NY said:
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point is, it's idiotic to sit Dominic Smith against the Matt Moore's of the world because he's lefty. He handles lefties quite well.



That I agree with. Smith should be starting against 95%+ of the lefties in the league. Pillar is for the handful of starts against the others or you need the bat in a PH role


I have zero problem with "Pillar MASHES this lefty, look at the numbers". I have a problem with "this guy is a lefty, time to get Pillar in there". That's what opening day was.
RE: good AB by Nimmo but that's the hole in his game that needs work  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:01 pm : link
In comment 15219337 Eric on Li said:
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he swung at a good 2-1 pitch and it was a good 3-2 pitch, but if he can figure out how to waste that pitch and get himself a pitch to drive his game can go up another level. If he can just get his whiffs down a little bit it would make a big difference.


I think you're expecting too much out of Nimmo. His K% was sub 20% last season and has been again so far this year. Pretty rough to both take tons of pitches and strike out less than he does. Only 2 regulars on the team struck out at a lower % than Nimmo last year, McNeil and Cano.
RE: Guillorme  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 5:02 pm : link
In comment 15219334 DanMetroMan said:
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on base again. 6 times on base in limited PT.


he is just a solid player who won't hurt you too bad with the bat and can play D. If he played every day 2b somewhere I don't think he'd be too far off Wong (except homers).
Walker  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:05 pm : link
7 k's through 3. They need to score some runs, the pen is going to come into play... and the pen is not great despite what fangraphs wanted to say. #2 pen in baseball? Uh okay. It will be better when Lugo returns but that looks to be at least 3-4 weeks out.
RE: RE: good AB by Nimmo but that's the hole in his game that needs work  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 5:06 pm : link
In comment 15219343 DanMetroMan said:
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he swung at a good 2-1 pitch and it was a good 3-2 pitch, but if he can figure out how to waste that pitch and get himself a pitch to drive his game can go up another level. If he can just get his whiffs down a little bit it would make a big difference.



I think you're expecting too much out of Nimmo. His K% was sub 20% last season and has been again so far this year. Pretty rough to both take tons of pitches and strike out less than he does. Only 2 regulars on the team struck out at a lower % than Nimmo last year, McNeil and Cano.


Maybe. Also im not really expecting it, just think that's an area where he can improve. I think as he gets later into at bats he tries to keep his approach the same as earlier in counts when he should trying to play more of a contact game especially in a situation like that with 2 outs and a hit is a run (and a walk isn't).
Red  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:06 pm : link
Sox are 5 outs away from being 7-3. Jeez
RE: Walker  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 5:08 pm : link
In comment 15219352 DanMetroMan said:
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7 k's through 3. They need to score some runs, the pen is going to come into play... and the pen is not great despite what fangraphs wanted to say. #2 pen in baseball? Uh okay. It will be better when Lugo returns but that looks to be at least 3-4 weeks out.


If you can get 6 innings from your SP in Game 1 of a DH that sets you up nicely for Game 2 because you only then need 5 innings for it to be similar to getting 6 innings from your SP in a regular game.
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:11 pm : link
Some fun pitching matchups today...Nola vs. Stroman, Strasburg vs. Flaherty, Woodruff vs. Hendricks, Bieber vs. Giolito, Gausman vs. Castillo, "Sticky Fingers" Bauer of course gets to face the Rockies again, Lopez vs. Fried
Gallen  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:18 pm : link
k's 8 over 4 in his season debut. Marlins have/had a real pitching factory over there in Miami. Sucks for them Sixto/Cabrera (maybe the 2 most talented) can't stay healthy.
Tim  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:23 pm : link
Locastro... 29/29 career stealing bases. Most steals without being caught in MLB history
huge dp  
JayBinQueens : 4/13/2021 5:26 pm : link
there.
Walker  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:26 pm : link
66 pitches through 4, he SHOULD be able to go at least 6. Score some runs jesus. Chase Anderson?
RE: huge dp  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 5:27 pm : link
In comment 15219397 JayBinQueens said:
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there.


defense wins championships.
Hirokazu Sawamura  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:28 pm : link
seems functionally wild for the Red Sox. He might be a nice cheap find for their BP.
Deolis  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:30 pm : link
Guerra somehow only 31 years old with a scoreless inning for Oakland.
LG doing big things  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:36 pm : link
Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Despite losing some early ABs to Jonathan Villar, Luis Guillorme really has done nothing but produce when given a chance. With a hit and a walk today, Guillorme owns a...

.359 batting average
.462 on-base percentage

...since the start of 2020. And he hit .313 this spring.
RE: LG doing big things  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 5:42 pm : link
In comment 15219415 DanMetroMan said:
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Anthony DiComo
@AnthonyDiComo
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Despite losing some early ABs to Jonathan Villar, Luis Guillorme really has done nothing but produce when given a chance. With a hit and a walk today, Guillorme owns a...

.359 batting average
.462 on-base percentage

...since the start of 2020. And he hit .313 this spring.


If DH ends up happening next year and a spot opens for McNeil in the OF I'd love to see him get a shot playing next to Lindor. That defense up the middle would be fun.
Mets  
Hilary : 4/13/2021 5:46 pm : link
No clutch hitting.
Ump is absolutely  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 5:46 pm : link
squeezing Walker, really unfortunate in that at bat
4 1/3  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:48 pm : link
innings? Uh. Okay.
RE: 4 1/3  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 5:52 pm : link
In comment 15219442 DanMetroMan said:
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innings? Uh. Okay.


With how Joe West was squeezing him probably was good to remove him although you prefer 5-6 from him
ha never seen that one before  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 5:52 pm : link
totally looked like Guillorme knocked him off the bag but on replay doesn't seem like anything he could have done differently, Quinn initiated the contact and looked to moving away from the bag on his own.
Whew  
Ira : 4/13/2021 5:52 pm : link
!
RE: ha never seen that one before  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:54 pm : link
In comment 15219447 Eric on Li said:
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totally looked like Guillorme knocked him off the bag but on replay doesn't seem like anything he could have done differently, Quinn initiated the contact and looked to moving away from the bag on his own.


Video of the play. I assume they said he was off the bag and then tackled but I don't know. I don't have the audio.
Link - ( New Window )
Walker  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:56 pm : link
looked pretty good but ran out of gas. West's strike zone was inconsistent but 80 pitches 43 strikes some of that is on Walker. 2nd start of the year, hard to complain (I'll hold that for the offense and likely the bullpen shortly).
he definitely took guillorme's feet out (unintentionally)  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 5:56 pm : link
but then continued off the bag with his own momentum even though there was contact. Just a flukey play where I think he just figured with Guillorme falling the way he did there was no way he had caught the ball.
.  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 5:58 pm : link
Michael Mayer
@mikemayer22
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Brandon Nimmo has reached base safely at least twice in all six games this season, the other Mets players to accomplish that streak to start a season:

Jose Reyes
David Wright
Jeff Francouer
Mike Cameron
Damn  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 6:00 pm : link
Lindor, DP.
Welp  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:06 pm : link
this feels like a 5-2 loss. This bullpen is an utter disgrace
....  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:13 pm : link
Is this happening? Why the hell is Castro still in this game??
Some bad luck here for Castro  
Metnut : 4/13/2021 6:13 pm : link
His stuff looks nasty and his location isn’t bad either.

Honestly Philly hasn’t done much today. The Mets offense is failing the team so far this season.
RE: Some bad luck here for Castro  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15219486 Metnut said:
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His stuff looks nasty and his location isn’t bad either.

Honestly Philly hasn’t done much today. The Mets offense is failing the team so far this season.

Have to be able to manage around a struggling offense and when these games are winnable, Rojas has shown he has absolutely zero clue how to manage a baseball game. Why was Rojas left in even to face Harper?
Castro*  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:16 pm : link
left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?
Be nice if the bats would wake the fuck up already..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/13/2021 6:24 pm : link
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RE: Be nice if the bats would wake the fuck up already..  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15219496 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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This game has been over for about 1.5 hours
RE: Castro*  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15219490 ryanmkeane said:
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left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?


Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there
How can this lineup  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 6:25 pm : link
be so bad?? Other than Nimmo and Dom it feels like everyone is an easy out. I get its early, but shit this is brutal to watch
RE: RE: Castro*  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15219499 Mike in NY said:
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left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?



Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there

Even if he has to face another batter - what are they going to do, never put him in the game?
RE: RE: RE: Castro*  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 6:30 pm : link
In comment 15219504 ryanmkeane said:
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left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?



Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there


Even if he has to face another batter - what are they going to do, never put him in the game?


No, but if choice is Castro v. Harper or Loup v. Bohm I am taking the former
Ugh  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 6:42 pm : link
All we needed was a sac bunt by Nimmo
Again,  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:49 pm : link
this game has been over for 2 hours now.
That was  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 6:51 pm : link
Predictable
This is where you should bring  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:05 pm : link
Loup in
Murphy’s law  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 7:05 pm : link
with this team right now
I love the Mets and have been a fan since 1965....  
GiantBlue : 4/13/2021 7:06 pm : link
But this team is terrible!

They hit like paint drying....they can’t pitch, they can’t make plays, they can’t move runners along, they can’t get clutch hits.

Pathetic!
And like clockwork  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:06 pm : link
Phillies get a dribbler and a run.

Again I ask - why is this manager still employed?
This team is pretty close to unwatchable  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:06 pm : link
On offense they can’t hit. Can’t get a big hit. What little leads they get inevitably evaporate when the game gets handed over to the bullpen
RE: This team is pretty close to unwatchable  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15219555 KDavies said:
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On offense they can’t hit. Can’t get a big hit. What little leads they get inevitably evaporate when the game gets handed over to the bullpen

I don’t even blame the bullpen - the manager has absolutely zero clue how to use them
Could have walked  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:09 pm : link
Didi to make bases loaded with 2 out, or brought Loup in, instead, he chose to pitch to him with a righty and an open base

The guy is clueless and each game he’s the manager will be one wasted.
Had to go to following it online  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:12 pm : link
How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?
RE: Had to go to following it online  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15219568 KDavies said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?


double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).
RE: Had to go to following it online  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15219568 KDavies said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?

I think as long as it’s a near certainty that the guy wouldn’t have to bat, they can use whoever they want
RE: RE: Had to go to following it online  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15219571 Eric on Li said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?



double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).

Ah, I stand corrected
RE: RE: Had to go to following it online  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15219571 Eric on Li said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?



double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).


Ah, ok. Gotcha. Thanks. Didn’t realize the pitcher rule, though it makes sense
would be damn nice for mccann to walk this one off  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 7:17 pm : link
always nice to get a new guy a big hit.
Welp  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:23 pm : link
I was wrong. Villar clutch!
RE: would be damn nice for mccann to walk this one off  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15219583 Eric on Li said:
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always nice to get a new guy a big hit.


Well, a different new guy did. Glad they won that one
They needed  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 7:24 pm : link
That. Let’s do it again
Vs. Nola  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 7:26 pm : link
Do you bench Conforto who is 7 for 40 with 15 K and play Villar or Pillar in RF?
RE: Vs. Nola  
Ira : 4/13/2021 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15219599 Mike in NY said:
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Do you bench Conforto who is 7 for 40 with 15 K and play Villar or Pillar in RF?


Yes. It's the 2nd game of a doubleheader and he can use the rest.
Villar is not good in the OF  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:35 pm : link
from what I can recall. I’d go Pillar if I am resting Conforto
RE: Villar is not good in the OF  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15219612 KDavies said:
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from what I can recall. I’d go Pillar if I am resting Conforto


Pillar it is. Villar replaces Guillorme which is a tough call because he did just get GW hit although Guillorme is locked in at the plate right now
Fine with sitting Conforto tonight given his slump  
Metnut : 4/13/2021 8:24 pm : link
but I’d have liked to see Guillorme stay in the lineup. I like the way he’s swinging the bat and the type of ABs he’s putting together.
don’t want Davis getting injured of course  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 8:32 pm : link
but I much prefer Guillorme at 3B. Him and Nimmo provide a nice balance to some of the power guys in the lineup
Lindor's defense is on another level  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 10:10 pm : link
I wasn't sure how much different it would seem compared to the little we got of Gimenez last year, and man is it different. Really hope we get to see Lindor/Guillorme up the middle at some point.
I’ve been  
Eli owns all : 4/13/2021 10:11 pm : link
Against extending stroman. I know it’s early I just like what I see and Thor as much as I love is just not reliable. I think now I’d rather keep stro over thor.
that was the best control from Familia since '18  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 10:40 pm : link
that was a pretty solid inning. Yes he gave up a couple singles with 2 outs but with a 4 run lead you take it.

this team would be so much better if all games were just 7 innings.
Odorizzi  
pjcas18 : 4/13/2021 10:48 pm : link
got shelled tonight.
Hey people.  
SJGiant : 4/13/2021 10:54 pm : link
The Mets are in first place in the NL East.
RE: Could have walked  
Rory : 4/13/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15219562 ryanmkeane said:
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Didi to make bases loaded with 2 out, or brought Loup in, instead, he chose to pitch to him with a righty and an open base

The guy is clueless and each game he’s the manager will be one wasted.


fans who call managers and coaches clueless from the soft couch at their home are so much smarter then everyone else arent they?
RE: Hey people.  
moze1021 : 4/14/2021 8:44 am : link
In comment 15219854 SJGiant said:
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The Mets are in first place in the NL East.


And their offense has been terrible!

Nimmo the only guy who is off to a hot start. Every other guy is underperforming so far.

Alonso and Dom have been meh overall, but seem better because of some big hits.
Lindor, McNeil, Conforto, McCann all absolutely brutal.

Guillorme and Villar have done a nice job filling in for JD..but even there we are lacking the power threat that JD brings...

This low level of performance is unsustainable. Best still to come!

Also great to see May and Familia have nice outings.

The  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:05 am : link
Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.
Ohtani  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:11 am : link
is the pound-for-pound most talented pro athlete today. Truly an absurd human boing

-Deolis Guerra for the A's last night 3 innings 5 k's lol

-Wilson Ramos 9 games, 6 homers

-Ex- Met Nabil Crismatt 5 innings 3 er 5 k's for SD last night
RE: The  
GF1080 : 4/14/2021 10:11 am : link
In comment 15220110 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.


It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.
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DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:13 am : link
Baddoo homered AGAIN? Wow.
RE: RE: The  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15220129 GF1080 said:
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In comment 15220110 DanMetroMan said:


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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.



It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.


100%. For whatever reason when they see a guy as X, they take FOREVER to move off of that. They played Todd Frazier, Jose Reyes and Jack Reinheimer over Guillorme
RE: RE: RE: The  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2021 10:22 am : link
In comment 15220133 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15220129 GF1080 said:


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In comment 15220110 DanMetroMan said:


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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.



It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.



100%. For whatever reason when they see a guy as X, they take FOREVER to move off of that. They played Todd Frazier, Jose Reyes and Jack Reinheimer over Guillorme


They were not wrong with Guillorme early in his career. His ISO was always Rey Ordoñez bad even though he did not strike out much. You really can't have that as an everyday player when you also have a catcher who doesn't deserve to be more than an 8th place hitter as well. Adding a DH will definitely help because you can do Guillorme and McCann as your 8th and 9th hitters. But Guillorme-McCann-Pitcher is too anemic behind Conforto or Smith or McNeill as the 6th place hitter. In 2019 his swing imporved notably. He still does not have HR power and his doubles are still not ideal for anything more than 8th place hitter when he is the only bat like that in the lineup, but at least he is not hitting weak grounder after weak grounder.
Mike  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:24 am : link
they played Jack Reinheimer (demoting LG to the minors in the process) and the carcass of Jose Reyes (traded for Todd Frazier who is barely hanging on now with the worst team in baseball) of course you can give a limited power player some burn.
2017  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:29 am : link
Guillorme .283/.376/.331 with his usual A+ glove work. Career .283/.376/.331. Jack Reinheimer appeared in 21 games for the 2018 Mets with a career .358 slug. C'mon, Guillorme has never been given a fair shake. Concerned about the power? Let that play out. Madrigal is/was one of the top prospects in baseball and has hit 4 homers as a pro
LG  
GF1080 : 4/14/2021 10:32 am : link
He should at minimum start when Stroman and Peterson pitch and go from there. If they can vacuum that whole side of the field any hitting on top of that would be gravy.
Not  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:34 am : link
revisionist either

"Daniel Wexler
@WexlerRules
·
Sep 5, 2018
Really strange to see Jack Reinheimer pass Guillorme on the depth chart. Must have a fan in the organization. Sadly, I expect Guillorme to lose his 40 man spot this off-season #Mets"
Deolis Guerrero!  
bhill410 : 4/14/2021 10:35 am : link
That is actually more crazy than the Phillips sighting on the pirates. I remember when he was essentially the only arm in the Mets minor league system. Even with how thin it is now it was nothing compared to how bad it was in late 2000s.
Buxton  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:35 am : link
9 games 1.1 fWAR. He has MVP talent... if he can somehow stay healthy.
RE: 2017  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2021 10:36 am : link
In comment 15220161 DanMetroMan said:
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Guillorme .283/.376/.331 with his usual A+ glove work. Career .283/.376/.331. Jack Reinheimer appeared in 21 games for the 2018 Mets with a career .358 slug. C'mon, Guillorme has never been given a fair shake. Concerned about the power? Let that play out. Madrigal is/was one of the top prospects in baseball and has hit 4 homers as a pro


Those numbers were in AA. In 2018, his first taste of the majors, he was .209/.284/.239. The carcas of Jose Reyes had a similar OBP and far greater SLG.
RE: RE: 2017  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:39 am : link
In comment 15220185 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15220161 DanMetroMan said:


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Guillorme .283/.376/.331 with his usual A+ glove work. Career .283/.376/.331. Jack Reinheimer appeared in 21 games for the 2018 Mets with a career .358 slug. C'mon, Guillorme has never been given a fair shake. Concerned about the power? Let that play out. Madrigal is/was one of the top prospects in baseball and has hit 4 homers as a pro



Those numbers were in AA. In 2018, his first taste of the majors, he was .209/.284/.239. The carcas of Jose Reyes had a similar OBP and far greater SLG.


Mike... you're citing...67 ab's over... 35 games played. C'mon, do you really think that's a fair way to judge ANY player? For context Mark Canha already has 47 ab's this season... over 12 games no less.
We  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:40 am : link
will have to agree to disagree here.
RE: We  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2021 10:42 am : link
In comment 15220192 DanMetroMan said:
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will have to agree to disagree here.


I am just saying his swing changed between 2018 and 2019 and that was the key to Guillorme's development.
Even  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:43 am : link
more than Ramos 6 homers, Lowrie outhitting 90% of the Mets lineup is not something I expected to see. The Wilpons unwilling to let Lowrie get surgery.... that's a new one lol
RE: RE: We  
GF1080 : 4/14/2021 10:45 am : link
In comment 15220196 Mike in NY said:
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will have to agree to disagree here.



I am just saying his swing changed between 2018 and 2019 and that was the key to Guillorme's development.


That's fine but are the Mets going to recognize it? Look at McNeil and Nimmo before they got them consistent playing time. They had no idea what they had with those 2.
Regarding Lowrie  
bhill410 : 4/14/2021 10:45 am : link
I get and believe the claim pertaining to last year, but what about 2019? Or why not get it after that offseason. That’s what is confusing to me.
RE: RE: We  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:47 am : link
In comment 15220196 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15220192 DanMetroMan said:


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will have to agree to disagree here.



I am just saying his swing changed between 2018 and 2019 and that was the key to Guillorme's development.


Sure. But his glove (Paternostro from BP consistently RAVED about his defense)

Jeffrey Paternostro
@jeffpaternostro
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Aug 16, 2014
Guillorme blows my mind on plays he doesn't even get to. Ranged from behind 2b to about 300 ft up LF line, just missed a sliding backhand.

Jeffrey Paternostro
@jeffpaternostro
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Aug 12, 2020
Man I’ve seen a lot of middle infielders in the minors in a decade and I don’t think any of them had better hands/actions than Guillorme.

Jeffrey Paternostro
@jeffpaternostro
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Aug 10, 2019
Been saying for years Guillorme had secret raw pop


To give the Reyes, Reinheimer, Frazier, Panik, Hecheverria types ALL a look before giving him a shot was shortsighted and the Mets in "recent" years have been known for things like this. Underrating their own talent.


RE: Regarding Lowrie  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:48 am : link
In comment 15220202 bhill410 said:
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I get and believe the claim pertaining to last year, but what about 2019? Or why not get it after that offseason. That’s what is confusing to me.


The surgery was supposed to happen Spring 2019.

"The Mets signed Lowrie to a two-year, $20 million contract prior to the 2019 season. Lowrie had just eight plate appearances in 2019, and none in 2019. The Salem, Oregon native was diagnosed with a knee fat pad impingement during spring training of 2019, and according to the player, he was threatened with a grievance if he pursued a surgical remedy."
Worth  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:50 am : link
a shot, I guess?

Kyle Glaser
@KyleAGlaser
The Atlantic League, a partner league of MLB, will move the mound back by one foot during the second half of its season, the @washingtonpost
reports. The DH will also be tied to the starting pitcher. Once a team pulls its starter, it loses the DH.
hope you don't mind  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2021 10:51 am : link
if I insert a fantasy baseball question:

If you were going to gamble on one of these players on waivers being more than fools gold who would it be:

Jed Lowrie
Kyle Seager
Evan Longoria
Adam Eaton

pitchers
Anthony Descalfini
John Gray

thank you in advance
RE: hope you don't mind  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:00 am : link
In comment 15220218 pjcas18 said:
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if I insert a fantasy baseball question:

If you were going to gamble on one of these players on waivers being more than fools gold who would it be:

Jed Lowrie
Kyle Seager
Evan Longoria
Adam Eaton

pitchers
Anthony Descalfini
John Gray

thank you in advance


I don't see any reason to believe Seager is "fool's gold" unless you're going to be disappointed with something more like .260 25 90. Gray #1 has been "lucky" notice his XFIP, he's yet to allow a HR and plays for the Rockies, flip side, is there is a very strong change he's traded to a good team at the deadline. DeSclafani in a similar boat, XFIP suggests he's been good but not this good but he 1) Plays in a strong park for his strengths (the Giants are excellent at earmarking suck guys) and also could be on another team at the deadline.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:02 am : link
in a keeper league and my team needed serious rebuilding so I just traded Kyle Lewis for Nimmo and Trevor Rogers. Only one start but he looked ace-level good.
RE: RE: Regarding Lowrie  
Shecky : 4/14/2021 11:05 am : link
In comment 15220211 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15220202 bhill410 said:


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I get and believe the claim pertaining to last year, but what about 2019? Or why not get it after that offseason. That’s what is confusing to me.



The surgery was supposed to happen Spring 2019.

"The Mets signed Lowrie to a two-year, $20 million contract prior to the 2019 season. Lowrie had just eight plate appearances in 2019, and none in 2019. The Salem, Oregon native was diagnosed with a knee fat pad impingement during spring training of 2019, and according to the player, he was threatened with a grievance if he pursued a surgical remedy."


Took a while to find, I’m not good at this stuff. But was pretty funny reading the thread from one he was first diagnosed as being day to day lol
Lowrie - Day to Day - ( New Window )
thanks DMM  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2021 11:07 am : link
my only hesitation on Seager is I have a lot of MI/3B options.

I have Machado, Happ, Gimenez, and JD Davis (IL) all who can play 3B plus other positions and Seager can *only* play 3B.

But i picked him up anyway.

RE: thanks DMM  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:12 am : link
In comment 15220253 pjcas18 said:
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my only hesitation on Seager is I have a lot of MI/3B options.

I have Machado, Happ, Gimenez, and JD Davis (IL) all who can play 3B plus other positions and Seager can *only* play 3B.

But i picked him up anyway.


I mean, he's not going to hit .317 (.355 BABIP) but just last season 9 homers, 40 rbi, 35 runs over 60 games, so he's a safe bet for 25 85-90 to me. Yes he's 33 but he's also been very durable for his career.
thank you for digging up that thread Shecky  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2021 11:24 am : link
the default position of expecting the worst and never trusting their public messaging really withstood the test of time in the Wilponzi era.

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just do the surgery now & clean it up as best they can for long haul
Eric on Li : 2/21/2019 12:44 pm : link
welcome to the mets BVW and Jed!!!! Maybe we'll get some more insurance money back to sign another pitcher.
@PJ I'm also submitting that thread to the Mets fan board of health  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2021 11:28 am : link
for full accreditation and license to speculate on their mishandling of player health. Example #2 in thesis defense right after Jose Reyes' new running style.
Someone sounds like  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2021 11:29 am : link
they're re-writing history, the quote below (from the thread) is purportedly from Lowrie - doesn't sound like a guy who wanted surgery and the team nixed it - at least not at that point):

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SNY
‏Verified account @SNYtv
28s28 seconds ago

"We got confirmation that there was no major damage, so that is good news...I want to be out there with the guys on Opening Day."
RE: Someone sounds like  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:36 am : link
In comment 15220312 pjcas18 said:
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they're re-writing history, the quote below (from the thread) is purportedly from Lowrie - doesn't sound like a guy who wanted surgery and the team nixed it - at least not at that point):



Quote:


SNY
‏Verified account @SNYtv
28s28 seconds ago

"We got confirmation that there was no major damage, so that is good news...I want to be out there with the guys on Opening Day."



PJ,
His injury is/was not considered "major damage".

"That condition occurs when the knee fat pad — located below the kneecap and designed to protect the patellar tendon —becomes swollen and inflamed. "

He alleges he wanted to go with the surgical option, they did not believe this was necessary.
Who  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:38 am : link
knows the truth but given how tight-lipped and weird they were about it, I tend to believe there was a disconnect in regard to his treatment. The Mets have often been weird with injuries but this one went above and beyond.
From Gammons piece  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:44 am : link
Before the 2019 season, Lowrie signed a two-year, $20 million contract. The Mets GM was Brodie Van Wagenen, Lowrie’s former agent. But in the spring Lowrie’s knee gave him considerable pain. He was examined, then asked for a second opinion, which concluded that he had a knee fat pad impingement. The knee fat pad protects the patella tendon, and when it is damaged in any way, it is extremely painful.

Lowrie got eight plate appearances in 2019, none last season. The Mets declined to allow him to get the knee operation, he says. They threatened him with a grievance. As he sat out the 60-game season, things were unpleasant, and as soon as the Mets were eliminated, Lowrie was free to get the knee procedure, which occurred in October, right around the time Fred and Jeff Wilpon were on their way out as team owners, and Van Wagenen with them. Lowrie had the surgery and he was assured he would be ready to work regularly by the middle of March. “I missed playing so much, it was very difficult,” Lowrie says. “I would love to play two more years, then perhaps work in the business. It’s been my life for a long time, from Stanford to 14 seasons in the major leagues.”
while we are doing keeper/dynasty questions  
KDavies : 4/14/2021 11:46 am : link
where are you on Deivi Garcia vs. Ian Anderson. Possibly looking to deal one before the season is out, as I have four other SP keepers (total # is 13, and I can't see keeping more than 5 SP). Other SP are deGrom, Giolito, Flaherty, Peralta
I liked the Lowrie signing at the time  
KDavies : 4/14/2021 11:47 am : link
he is a decent player. Amazing what he did before the Mets, and now after. Just thank the lord the Wilpons are no more.
Passan/DeGrom  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:48 am : link
RE: Who  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2021 11:48 am : link
In comment 15220327 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
knows the truth but given how tight-lipped and weird they were about it, I tend to believe there was a disconnect in regard to his treatment. The Mets have often been weird with injuries but this one went above and beyond.


I really hope this is an area where they are using Cohen's $ wisely to upgrade. The FO page on their website hasn't been updated yet but whenever it goes public I'm hoping to see that there are some new names on the training/performance staff. In the last decade+ the only trustable quotes re: NYM were from outside like Altchek and ElAttrache.
RE: RE: Someone sounds like  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15220323 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
In comment 15220312 pjcas18 said:


Quote:


they're re-writing history, the quote below (from the thread) is purportedly from Lowrie - doesn't sound like a guy who wanted surgery and the team nixed it - at least not at that point):



Quote:


SNY
‏Verified account @SNYtv
28s28 seconds ago

"We got confirmation that there was no major damage, so that is good news...I want to be out there with the guys on Opening Day."





PJ,
His injury is/was not considered "major damage".

"That condition occurs when the knee fat pad — located below the kneecap and designed to protect the patellar tendon —becomes swollen and inflamed. "

He alleges he wanted to go with the surgical option, they did not believe this was necessary.


I'm just reading the quote from him where he said he wants to be out there opening day, then a quote from him this year where he says he wanted surgery but the Mets said no - those two things are in conflict.
RE: while we are doing keeper/dynasty questions  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:51 am : link
In comment 15220348 KDavies said:
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where are you on Deivi Garcia vs. Ian Anderson. Possibly looking to deal one before the season is out, as I have four other SP keepers (total # is 13, and I can't see keeping more than 5 SP). Other SP are deGrom, Giolito, Flaherty, Peralta


That's a tough call. 5'9 SP are very rare.. but I advocated signing an extension with one in this very thread (Stroman). I I'm going Anderson. Slightly lower ceiling but not that much lower, 100% a SP and no real red flags.
Well  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 11:53 am : link
#1 I'm sure he wanted to play regardless of his injury #2 He received a 2nd opinion. Given how strange the Mets comments were his entire time here I think it's a safe assumption they weren't seeing eye to eye. I have a very hard time calling this revisionist. They kept oddly mum the entire time and provided little to no actual updates.
the Lowrie signing was a way better idea than trading for Cano (duh)  
Eric on Li : 4/14/2021 11:53 am : link
for just 2 years 20m they got a guy off an all star year with MVP votes at the same position, and capable of playing other positions.

Peanuts compared to taking on the $100m+ of Cano, who was older and coming off the PED issue. Or as it turns out coming off his first but not last PED issue.

my only guess as to why they didn't let him get the surgery is the Wilponzis didn't want him to miss half of the first season right away, were fine with recouping the insurance money, and in complete save $ mode last year knowing they were on the way out the door and getting severely impacted by no fans in ballpark.
thanks Dan  
KDavies : 4/14/2021 11:57 am : link
yeah, those are my feelings too. Garcia has huge upside, but question marks.

Stroman doesn't pitch as fast as Garcia. I would love to keep him (and Noah) here as well. Trade isn't looking as bad, though my big issue with it was always trading prospects for him in combination with letting Wheeler go in FA. Made no sense.
RE: thanks Dan  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15220388 KDavies said:
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yeah, those are my feelings too. Garcia has huge upside, but question marks.

Stroman doesn't pitch as fast as Garcia. I would love to keep him (and Noah) here as well. Trade isn't looking as bad, though my big issue with it was always trading prospects for him in combination with letting Wheeler go in FA. Made no sense.


Oh yeah, Stroman and Garcia are only similar in terms of size. Fangraphs has Anderson 13 and Garcia 60 if that means anything. I don't see anything to concern me with Anderson and while he doesn't throw 99, he sits comfortably 94 and touches as high as 97.
RE: Well  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2021 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15220372 DanMetroMan said:
Quote:
#1 I'm sure he wanted to play regardless of his injury #2 He received a 2nd opinion. Given how strange the Mets comments were his entire time here I think it's a safe assumption they weren't seeing eye to eye. I have a very hard time calling this revisionist. They kept oddly mum the entire time and provided little to no actual updates.


the Mets have a horrific history of injury diagnosis and communication.

it's one of the things I hope changes with Cohen.

Also, I don't know if it was a "Mets" thing per se or if sometimes that nature of injuries and medicine is not always back and white, there is sometimes gray.

regardless if I had to pick a side on who was more forthcoming here it would be Lowrie, but like I said I hope that chapter of not believing anything Mets injury related is behind us.
Finally  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 12:08 pm : link
going to my first minor league game in 2 seasons in June. Cyclones games are always fun.
RE: I liked the Lowrie signing at the time  
moze1021 : 4/14/2021 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15220353 KDavies said:
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he is a decent player. Amazing what he did before the Mets, and now after. Just thank the lord the Wilpons are no more.


Did the Wilpons or Brodie make Lowrie be a jerk to fans and the press? He didn't do himself any favors, that's for sure.
RE: Finally  
pjcas18 : 4/14/2021 1:38 pm : link
In comment 15220424 DanMetroMan said:
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going to my first minor league game in 2 seasons in June. Cyclones games are always fun.


I hope to as well, the Pawtucket Red Sox moved to Worcester. Would love to see a Syracuse Mets vs Worcester Red Sox game.

The Mets are in town May 11 - May 16 and again August 10 - 15 - I think to limit travel they have longer series.
Paul LoDuca owes Joe West $500K  
Seventh Spiel : 4/14/2021 2:04 pm : link
Careful what you say out there, guys.
Link - ( New Window )
RE: Paul LoDuca owes Joe West $500K  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/14/2021 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15220631 Seventh Spiel said:
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Careful what you say out there, guys. Link - ( New Window )


It was pretty stupid for Lo Duca to say that. And I can't stand joe west, but you can't accuse the guy of that and expect not to have some consequences for it.
Sleeper  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 3:08 pm : link
WS team, the Brewers. They could be scary in the playoffs.
RE: Paul LoDuca owes Joe West $500K  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2021 3:09 pm : link
In comment 15220631 Seventh Spiel said:
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Careful what you say out there, guys. Link - ( New Window )


The paperwork has some interesting info:
(1) Joe West is retiring at the end of this season;
(2) Joe West is going on the lecture circuit; and
(3) Joe West thinks he will be enshrined in Hall of Fame
RE: RE: Paul LoDuca owes Joe West $500K  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 3:20 pm : link
In comment 15220751 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15220631 Seventh Spiel said:


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Careful what you say out there, guys. Link - ( New Window )



The paperwork has some interesting info:
(1) Joe West is retiring at the end of this season;
(2) Joe West is going on the lecture circuit; and
(3) Joe West thinks he will be enshrined in Hall of Fame


He's likely a HOFer. 40 seasons as an MLB ump, will retire with the most games umped in the history of baseball.
No  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 4:17 pm : link
timetable for Betances. I wonder if that's the end of the road for him?
RE: RE: Well  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 4:25 pm : link
In comment 15220421 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15220372 DanMetroMan said:


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#1 I'm sure he wanted to play regardless of his injury #2 He received a 2nd opinion. Given how strange the Mets comments were his entire time here I think it's a safe assumption they weren't seeing eye to eye. I have a very hard time calling this revisionist. They kept oddly mum the entire time and provided little to no actual updates.



the Mets have a horrific history of injury diagnosis and communication.

it's one of the things I hope changes with Cohen.

Also, I don't know if it was a "Mets" thing per se or if sometimes that nature of injuries and medicine is not always back and white, there is sometimes gray.

regardless if I had to pick a side on who was more forthcoming here it would be Lowrie, but like I said I hope that chapter of not believing anything Mets injury related is behind us.


Rojas just confirmed Lowrie asked the Mets for permission to have surgery.
If joe west goes into the HOF I will come on here and claim  
bhill410 : 4/14/2021 5:10 pm : link
To be done with baseball and likely turn on a Mets game 5 min later. That said it would be a travesty for that guy to be anywhere near the hall of fame, a travesty that is only outdone by letting him be an IMO for that long.
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