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NFT: Phillies at Mets Doubleheader

ZGiants98 : 4/13/2021 3:08 pm
Game 1

Mets Lineup

Brandon Nimmo – CF
Francisco Lindor – SS
Dominic Smith – LF
Pete Alonso – 1B
Jeff McNeil – 2B
Michael Conforto – RF
James McCann – C
Luis Guillorme – 3B
Taijuan Walker – RHP

Phillies Lineup

Andrew McCutchen – LF
Rhys Hoskins – 1B
Bryce Harper – RF
Alec Bohm – 3B
Didi Gregorius – SS
Jean Segura – 2B
Andrew Knapp – C
Roman Quinn – CF
Chase Anderson – RHP
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ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:13 pm : link
Is this happening? Why the hell is Castro still in this game??
Some bad luck here for Castro  
Metnut : 4/13/2021 6:13 pm : link
His stuff looks nasty and his location isn’t bad either.

Honestly Philly hasn’t done much today. The Mets offense is failing the team so far this season.
RE: Some bad luck here for Castro  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:16 pm : link
In comment 15219486 Metnut said:
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His stuff looks nasty and his location isn’t bad either.

Honestly Philly hasn’t done much today. The Mets offense is failing the team so far this season.

Have to be able to manage around a struggling offense and when these games are winnable, Rojas has shown he has absolutely zero clue how to manage a baseball game. Why was Rojas left in even to face Harper?
Castro*  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:16 pm : link
left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?
Be nice if the bats would wake the fuck up already..  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/13/2021 6:24 pm : link
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RE: Be nice if the bats would wake the fuck up already..  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15219496 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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This game has been over for about 1.5 hours
RE: Castro*  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 6:25 pm : link
In comment 15219490 ryanmkeane said:
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left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?


Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there
How can this lineup  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 6:25 pm : link
be so bad?? Other than Nimmo and Dom it feels like everyone is an easy out. I get its early, but shit this is brutal to watch
RE: RE: Castro*  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:27 pm : link
In comment 15219499 Mike in NY said:
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left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?



Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there

Even if he has to face another batter - what are they going to do, never put him in the game?
RE: RE: RE: Castro*  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 6:30 pm : link
In comment 15219504 ryanmkeane said:
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In comment 15219499 Mike in NY said:


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In comment 15219490 ryanmkeane said:


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left in I mean.

We signed Loup, hey maybe an idea is to use him?



Because Loup would be subject to 3 batter minimum as he couldn’t force a triple play there


Even if he has to face another batter - what are they going to do, never put him in the game?


No, but if choice is Castro v. Harper or Loup v. Bohm I am taking the former
Ugh  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 6:42 pm : link
All we needed was a sac bunt by Nimmo
Again,  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 6:49 pm : link
this game has been over for 2 hours now.
That was  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 6:51 pm : link
Predictable
This is where you should bring  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:05 pm : link
Loup in
Murphy’s law  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 7:05 pm : link
with this team right now
I love the Mets and have been a fan since 1965....  
GiantBlue : 4/13/2021 7:06 pm : link
But this team is terrible!

They hit like paint drying....they can’t pitch, they can’t make plays, they can’t move runners along, they can’t get clutch hits.

Pathetic!
And like clockwork  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:06 pm : link
Phillies get a dribbler and a run.

Again I ask - why is this manager still employed?
This team is pretty close to unwatchable  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:06 pm : link
On offense they can’t hit. Can’t get a big hit. What little leads they get inevitably evaporate when the game gets handed over to the bullpen
RE: This team is pretty close to unwatchable  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:07 pm : link
In comment 15219555 KDavies said:
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On offense they can’t hit. Can’t get a big hit. What little leads they get inevitably evaporate when the game gets handed over to the bullpen

I don’t even blame the bullpen - the manager has absolutely zero clue how to use them
Could have walked  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:09 pm : link
Didi to make bases loaded with 2 out, or brought Loup in, instead, he chose to pitch to him with a righty and an open base

The guy is clueless and each game he’s the manager will be one wasted.
Had to go to following it online  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:12 pm : link
How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?
RE: Had to go to following it online  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 7:13 pm : link
In comment 15219568 KDavies said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?


double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).
RE: Had to go to following it online  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15219568 KDavies said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?

I think as long as it’s a near certainty that the guy wouldn’t have to bat, they can use whoever they want
RE: RE: Had to go to following it online  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15219571 Eric on Li said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?



double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).

Ah, I stand corrected
RE: RE: Had to go to following it online  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15219571 Eric on Li said:
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How is Lindor the man at second to start off. Shouldn’t it have been Dom if Alonso was leading off?



double switched dom out for pitcher so it goes to position player who hit before pitcher (stupid rule, stupid situation since they couldn't just figure out DH).


Ah, ok. Gotcha. Thanks. Didn’t realize the pitcher rule, though it makes sense
would be damn nice for mccann to walk this one off  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 7:17 pm : link
always nice to get a new guy a big hit.
Welp  
ryanmkeane : 4/13/2021 7:23 pm : link
I was wrong. Villar clutch!
RE: would be damn nice for mccann to walk this one off  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:23 pm : link
In comment 15219583 Eric on Li said:
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always nice to get a new guy a big hit.


Well, a different new guy did. Glad they won that one
They needed  
Everyone Relax : 4/13/2021 7:24 pm : link
That. Let’s do it again
Vs. Nola  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 7:26 pm : link
Do you bench Conforto who is 7 for 40 with 15 K and play Villar or Pillar in RF?
RE: Vs. Nola  
Ira : 4/13/2021 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15219599 Mike in NY said:
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Do you bench Conforto who is 7 for 40 with 15 K and play Villar or Pillar in RF?


Yes. It's the 2nd game of a doubleheader and he can use the rest.
Villar is not good in the OF  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 7:35 pm : link
from what I can recall. I’d go Pillar if I am resting Conforto
RE: Villar is not good in the OF  
Mike in NY : 4/13/2021 7:53 pm : link
In comment 15219612 KDavies said:
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from what I can recall. I’d go Pillar if I am resting Conforto


Pillar it is. Villar replaces Guillorme which is a tough call because he did just get GW hit although Guillorme is locked in at the plate right now
Fine with sitting Conforto tonight given his slump  
Metnut : 4/13/2021 8:24 pm : link
but I’d have liked to see Guillorme stay in the lineup. I like the way he’s swinging the bat and the type of ABs he’s putting together.
don’t want Davis getting injured of course  
KDavies : 4/13/2021 8:32 pm : link
but I much prefer Guillorme at 3B. Him and Nimmo provide a nice balance to some of the power guys in the lineup
Lindor's defense is on another level  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 10:10 pm : link
I wasn't sure how much different it would seem compared to the little we got of Gimenez last year, and man is it different. Really hope we get to see Lindor/Guillorme up the middle at some point.
I’ve been  
Eli owns all : 4/13/2021 10:11 pm : link
Against extending stroman. I know it’s early I just like what I see and Thor as much as I love is just not reliable. I think now I’d rather keep stro over thor.
that was the best control from Familia since '18  
Eric on Li : 4/13/2021 10:40 pm : link
that was a pretty solid inning. Yes he gave up a couple singles with 2 outs but with a 4 run lead you take it.

this team would be so much better if all games were just 7 innings.
Odorizzi  
pjcas18 : 4/13/2021 10:48 pm : link
got shelled tonight.
Hey people.  
SJGiant : 4/13/2021 10:54 pm : link
The Mets are in first place in the NL East.
RE: Could have walked  
Rory : 4/13/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15219562 ryanmkeane said:
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Didi to make bases loaded with 2 out, or brought Loup in, instead, he chose to pitch to him with a righty and an open base

The guy is clueless and each game he’s the manager will be one wasted.


fans who call managers and coaches clueless from the soft couch at their home are so much smarter then everyone else arent they?
RE: Hey people.  
moze1021 : 4/14/2021 8:44 am : link
In comment 15219854 SJGiant said:
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The Mets are in first place in the NL East.


And their offense has been terrible!

Nimmo the only guy who is off to a hot start. Every other guy is underperforming so far.

Alonso and Dom have been meh overall, but seem better because of some big hits.
Lindor, McNeil, Conforto, McCann all absolutely brutal.

Guillorme and Villar have done a nice job filling in for JD..but even there we are lacking the power threat that JD brings...

This low level of performance is unsustainable. Best still to come!

Also great to see May and Familia have nice outings.

The  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:05 am : link
Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.
Ohtani  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:11 am : link
is the pound-for-pound most talented pro athlete today. Truly an absurd human boing

-Deolis Guerra for the A's last night 3 innings 5 k's lol

-Wilson Ramos 9 games, 6 homers

-Ex- Met Nabil Crismatt 5 innings 3 er 5 k's for SD last night
RE: The  
GF1080 : 4/14/2021 10:11 am : link
In comment 15220110 DanMetroMan said:
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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.


It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.
/  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:13 am : link
Baddoo homered AGAIN? Wow.
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DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15220129 GF1080 said:
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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.



It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.


100%. For whatever reason when they see a guy as X, they take FOREVER to move off of that. They played Todd Frazier, Jose Reyes and Jack Reinheimer over Guillorme
RE: RE: RE: The  
Mike in NY : 4/14/2021 10:22 am : link
In comment 15220133 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15220110 DanMetroMan said:


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Mets should engage Stroman in contract talks

-Rojas can't fall in love with Villar, his defense is scary

-LG needs to play a lot.



It's starting to look like LG is going to way over perform the all glove no hit player they had him pegged at. My worry is the Mets seem to never realize the type of players they have on their hands and will be late to recognize LG maybe should be the starter at 3B even when Davis is back.



100%. For whatever reason when they see a guy as X, they take FOREVER to move off of that. They played Todd Frazier, Jose Reyes and Jack Reinheimer over Guillorme


They were not wrong with Guillorme early in his career. His ISO was always Rey Ordoñez bad even though he did not strike out much. You really can't have that as an everyday player when you also have a catcher who doesn't deserve to be more than an 8th place hitter as well. Adding a DH will definitely help because you can do Guillorme and McCann as your 8th and 9th hitters. But Guillorme-McCann-Pitcher is too anemic behind Conforto or Smith or McNeill as the 6th place hitter. In 2019 his swing imporved notably. He still does not have HR power and his doubles are still not ideal for anything more than 8th place hitter when he is the only bat like that in the lineup, but at least he is not hitting weak grounder after weak grounder.
Mike  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:24 am : link
they played Jack Reinheimer (demoting LG to the minors in the process) and the carcass of Jose Reyes (traded for Todd Frazier who is barely hanging on now with the worst team in baseball) of course you can give a limited power player some burn.
2017  
DanMetroMan : 4/14/2021 10:29 am : link
Guillorme .283/.376/.331 with his usual A+ glove work. Career .283/.376/.331. Jack Reinheimer appeared in 21 games for the 2018 Mets with a career .358 slug. C'mon, Guillorme has never been given a fair shake. Concerned about the power? Let that play out. Madrigal is/was one of the top prospects in baseball and has hit 4 homers as a pro
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