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NFT: Buffalo (locality) announces games will require vaccination

Mad Mike : 4/13/2021 3:10 pm
to attend. County executive says they plan on 100% attendance for the Bills and Sabres in the fall, with proof of vaccination required. (FWIW, I think that county currently has the highest rate of new cases in NY). I assume the state could still restrict attendance depending on how things are going by then, but apparently the county owns the two stadiums so they don't need state approval to require vaccines for attendance. He says he's spoken about it with the Bills and "believes they support" the plan. We'll see if other teams or towns follow suit.
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I would totally be on board with that  
Bill L : 4/13/2021 3:14 pm : link
I think almost everything should end up with that requirement eventually.

But I can envision issues about children who can transmit but will be too young to qualify for vaccination. Hard to say parents can't bring them to a game.
I wonder  
Buzzard64 : 4/13/2021 3:16 pm : link
Will the handwritten little Vaccine card be enough "Proof" for admittance?
Do you think a blackmarket, fake vaccine passport  
Bill L : 4/13/2021 3:17 pm : link
would be lucrative?

RE: I wonder  
UConn4523 : 4/13/2021 3:19 pm : link
In comment 15219114 Buzzard64 said:
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Will the handwritten little Vaccine card be enough "Proof" for admittance?


Yup, that'll be the next cluster fuck - fake Vaccine ID's.
RE: I wonder  
widmerseyebrow : 4/13/2021 3:21 pm : link
In comment 15219114 Buzzard64 said:
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Will the handwritten little Vaccine card be enough "Proof" for admittance?


Right, and are stadium ticket takers going to verify dates, etc. Of course not. It's theater. Some kind of vaccine app is going to be needed.
RE: RE: I wonder  
crackerjack465 : 4/13/2021 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15219123 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 15219114 Buzzard64 said:


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Will the handwritten little Vaccine card be enough "Proof" for admittance?



Right, and are stadium ticket takers going to verify dates, etc. Of course not. It's theater. Some kind of vaccine app is going to be needed.


It's going to be an app. It won't be perfect, but my guess is season ticket holders will be able to verify beforehand and then mobile ticket users (stubhub, ticketmaster) can upload proof on the website beforehand, similar to flying.

I think it's a good call. Even if 90% of people in the stadium have it, I don't see how that is a bad thing. Vax mandates have precedents.
RE: RE: I wonder  
DanMetroMan : 4/13/2021 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15219123 widmerseyebrow said:
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In comment 15219114 Buzzard64 said:


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Will the handwritten little Vaccine card be enough "Proof" for admittance?



Right, and are stadium ticket takers going to verify dates, etc. Of course not. It's theater. Some kind of vaccine app is going to be needed.


Already exists (Excelsior Pass) with more on the way.
RE: I would totally be on board with that  
Mad Mike : 4/13/2021 3:24 pm : link
In comment 15219107 Bill L said:
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But I can envision issues about children who can transmit but will be too young to qualify for vaccination. Hard to say parents can't bring them to a game.

I would hope they make some kind of exception for that, but who knows.

In terms of verification, they say they'll require the proof of vaccine app the State rolled out recently.
RE: RE: I would totally be on board with that  
Bill L : 4/13/2021 4:09 pm : link
In comment 15219129 Mad Mike said:
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But I can envision issues about children who can transmit but will be too young to qualify for vaccination. Hard to say parents can't bring them to a game.


I would hope they make some kind of exception for that, but who knows.

In terms of verification, they say they'll require the proof of vaccine app the State rolled out recently.


But that's only a NY thing. Probably most customers but not all.
RE: RE: RE: I would totally be on board with that  
Mad Mike : 4/13/2021 4:21 pm : link
In comment 15219254 Bill L said:
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But that's only a NY thing. Probably most customers but not all.

True. But there's a lot of time to figure out verification and exceptions before they go "live".
RE: I would totally be on board with that  
Jonesin 4 A Ship : 4/13/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15219107 Bill L said:
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I think almost everything should end up with that requirement eventually.

But I can envision issues about children who can transmit but will be too young to qualify for vaccination. Hard to say parents can't bring them to a game.


Yeah, one of my five season tickets this year is for my daughter so I hope they figure that aspect out. Assuming that the NY/NJ area follows suit
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widmerseyebrow : 4/13/2021 4:45 pm : link
In comment 15219127 crackerjack465 said:
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Will the handwritten little Vaccine card be enough "Proof" for admittance?



Right, and are stadium ticket takers going to verify dates, etc. Of course not. It's theater. Some kind of vaccine app is going to be needed.



It's going to be an app. It won't be perfect, but my guess is season ticket holders will be able to verify beforehand and then mobile ticket users (stubhub, ticketmaster) can upload proof on the website beforehand, similar to flying.

I think it's a good call. Even if 90% of people in the stadium have it, I don't see how that is a bad thing. Vax mandates have precedents.


Ah that's good. No app will be perfect early on, but I think that sufficiently raises the bar to counterfeit a result.
Rochester baseball too  
Steve L : 4/13/2021 9:50 pm : link
The Red Wings (AAA for the Nats) requires negative test or vaccine card to get in. Pretty sure it’s an MILB thing. Whatever. I want to see baseball.
RE: Do you think a blackmarket, fake vaccine passport  
Bleedin Blue : 4/15/2021 8:48 am : link
In comment 15219119 Bill L said:
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would be lucrative?


Absolutely right ! They’re already out there! My wife showed me a Story about a fake card, and low and behold, the lot number was the same as hers! I’d like to know how they’re really going to verify this sh$t.
I'm fine with it  
Stu11 : 4/15/2021 8:57 am : link
However one thing people have to realize is that the vaccine seems to only be good for 6 months. I got my 2nd shot Feb 4th and my excelsior pass says it expires August 4th. I had heard we'd probably need a booster shot each year, but I didn't realize it would only be 6 months. Are they going to have those available before August/Sept for those of us lucky to have qualified in January or Feb?
RE: I'm fine with it  
Bill L : 4/15/2021 9:02 am : link
In comment 15221429 Stu11 said:
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However one thing people have to realize is that the vaccine seems to only be good for 6 months. I got my 2nd shot Feb 4th and my excelsior pass says it expires August 4th. I had heard we'd probably need a booster shot each year, but I didn't realize it would only be 6 months. Are they going to have those available before August/Sept for those of us lucky to have qualified in January or Feb?


I wouldn't say that the vaccine is only good for 6 months. I would say that's where they are with the data that informs their recommendations. As they accumulate more data, the guidance will change (and passes will be renewed). In fact, I think Moderna just said they can make claims to up to a year of protection. Plus, we know that the vaccine gives as good or better protection than does natural infection and we are about a year out from the first waves of natural infection (China probably has much more info) without seeing a bunch of re-infections.
RE: Rochester baseball too  
BamaBlue : 4/15/2021 9:16 am : link
In comment 15219781 Steve L said:
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The Red Wings (AAA for the Nats) requires negative test or vaccine card to get in. Pretty sure it’s an MILB thing. Whatever. I want to see baseball.


I think this must be a local government, or State policy, not an MiLB requirement. My local AA affiliated with the LA Angels is going to have full capacity attendance with no vaccination requirement. First game is May 11th.
Even if a portion of fans fake their vaccination status  
Scyber : 4/15/2021 10:30 am : link
A large majority will likely be in compliance. That will make a huge difference in the possibility of the infection spreading at a game. If one person is infectious, but a majority of the people around them are vaccinated, it would hopefully not be much of an issue.

I would not be surprised if they also require masks. Especially in enclosed spaces (like bathrooms). Added bonus is the masks reduce the smell of the toilets ;)
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