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chopperhatch : 4/14/2021 8:19 pm
Because larryflower37 is a pussy.

Knicks up 4 halfway thru the 1st 16-12
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Four in a row.  
bceagle05 : 4/14/2021 10:12 pm : link
Two games over .500. Hard to believe.
RE: Pelle  
Del Shofner : 4/14/2021 10:13 pm : link
In comment 15221200 Bricktop said:
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with some really important minutes.


+19 in 13 minutes. Interesting career this guy has had.
Hell  
Mike from SI : 4/14/2021 10:14 pm : link
yeah. Eventually looking playoff bound, fingers crossed!
RE: Defense in the 4th was awesome  
dpinzow : 4/14/2021 10:14 pm : link
In comment 15221244 nygiants16 said:
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Zion needs a jumper, he is an athletic freak and can dominate in the paint but he needs a jumper or the Pelicans need to surround him with 4 shooters


Knicks only allowed 17 points in the 4th
Seeing a guy like Burks go off in the 4th  
Stu11 : 4/14/2021 10:18 pm : link
and Clyde describing it with his Clyde adjectives is like porn for the ears...
When Zion went to drive,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/14/2021 10:19 pm : link
the Knicks weren’t respecting the Pels shooters at all.
One of the weirdest box scores I've ever seen.  
81_Great_Dane : 4/14/2021 10:19 pm : link
At least in terms of plus-minus.
Jesus Christ thank god for Burks  
Leg of Theismann : 4/14/2021 10:23 pm : link
I mean we won by 10, but somehow I feel without him we would've lost. He's the only one we can consistently rely on in the 4th quarter. He literally scored the only 11 points the Knicks had in the entire first 6 min of that 4th quarter. Thank god Randle woke up up in the last 6 min.

I think the 4th quarter scoring by my count was:

Burks - 14
Randle - 7
Gibson - 2
RE: Defense in the 4th was awesome  
chopperhatch : 4/14/2021 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15221244 nygiants16 said:
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Zion needs a jumper, he is an athletic freak and can dominate in the paint but he needs a jumper or the Pelicans need to surround him with 4 shooters


I dont think he has much more of a career. I think he has actually gotten bigger.
RE: Seeing a guy like Burks go off in the 4th  
Leg of Theismann : 4/14/2021 10:23 pm : link
In comment 15221253 Stu11 said:
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and Clyde describing it with his Clyde adjectives is like porn for the ears...


LOL
We can all argue  
Carl in CT : 4/14/2021 10:29 pm : link
But Thibs has been going more with the hot hand as of late.
Now can Memphis start playing  
Carl in CT : 4/14/2021 10:31 pm : link
And beat the Mavs for us?
That Bulls trade vucevic  
nygiants16 : 4/14/2021 10:34 pm : link
is looking worse and worse..
RE: That Bulls trade vucevic  
Jon in NYC : 4/14/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15221273 nygiants16 said:
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is looking worse and worse..


Worse for the Magic or the Bulls?
RE: RE: That Bulls trade vucevic  
nygiants16 : 4/14/2021 10:45 pm : link
In comment 15221277 Jon in NYC said:
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In comment 15221273 nygiants16 said:


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is looking worse and worse..



Worse for the Magic or the Bulls?


For the Bulls, i know the first is top 3 protected but they do not look good right now..
RE: Seeing a guy like Burks go off in the 4th  
Del Shofner : 4/14/2021 10:49 pm : link
In comment 15221253 Stu11 said:
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and Clyde describing it with his Clyde adjectives is like porn for the ears...


Along with Kenny Albert, who sounds just like his dad Marv, who I listened to on radio announcing Knicks games when Clyde was the Knicks' PG.

Yes, listening to Knicks games on the radio. Hey - technology changes over the years.
I find it a little odd  
bceagle05 : 4/14/2021 10:54 pm : link
that Dolan and Marv have a blood feud going, yet Kenny calls Knicks and Rangers games on a nightly basis.
RE: RE: Seeing a guy like Burks go off in the 4th  
Stu11 : 4/14/2021 11:00 pm : link
In comment 15221281 Del Shofner said:
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In comment 15221253 Stu11 said:


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and Clyde describing it with his Clyde adjectives is like porn for the ears...



Along with Kenny Albert, who sounds just like his dad Marv, who I listened to on radio announcing Knicks games when Clyde was the Knicks' PG.

Yes, listening to Knicks games on the radio. Hey - technology changes over the years.

Del I started following the Knicks in the late 70's listening to Marv do the games on the radio as the home games were on cable and we didn't have it yet. Even Marty Glickman did some games back then filling in for Marv.
Douchebag Grayson Allen chokes at the FT line  
bceagle05 : 4/14/2021 11:55 pm : link
and Luka nails a circus three to win it. I told myself a month ago I was done watching Dallas games....
well we've got the Mavs coming up  
Del Shofner : 4/15/2021 12:24 am : link
and the way we played the Pels tonight, I'm cautiously optimistic.

In Thibs we trust...
If a team finishes  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2021 7:45 am : link
in the 7 or 8th spot and lose play in, are they in the lottery? or is the 9th or 10th seed in the lottery?
If you loose the play in  
Chris L. : 4/15/2021 7:56 am : link
you are in the lottery.
RE: If a team finishes  
Heisenberg : 4/15/2021 7:59 am : link
In comment 15221357 nygiants16 said:
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in the 7 or 8th spot and lose play in, are they in the lottery? or is the 9th or 10th seed in the lottery?


The teams that don't get the 7th or 8th seed are in the lottery.

I actually kind of like the play in format. Gonna be fun, I think. Hopefully we get the 6th and can just watch it, lol
Ok thanks  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2021 8:05 am : link
I have seen both scenarios, so Mavs pick could still be in lottery, awesome
Seems that Memphis game  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2021 8:20 am : link
Has reinvigorated this team, they look hungry..
RE: RE: RE: Seeing a guy like Burks go off in the 4th  
ColHowPepper : 4/15/2021 9:02 am : link
In comment 15221285 Stu11 said:
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In comment 15221281 Del Shofner said:and Clyde describing it with his Clyde adjectives is like porn for the ears...

Along with Kenny Albert, who sounds just like his dad Marv, who I listened to on radio announcing Knicks games when Clyde was the Knicks' PG.//////

Del I started following the Knicks in the late 70's listening to Marv do the games on the radio as the home games were on cable and we didn't have it yet. Even Marty Glickman did some games back then filling in for Marv.
Yup and yup: But to me Marv was magic, his timing, intonation, inflection, enthusiasm--his love of the game just shone through. Kenny much better at b-ball than hockey, where his dad was also good.

Sorry to butt in, guys, haven't had a shred of interest in the Knicks for a decade or more, clown show in the stands (Oakley), on the court, and in the FO, what a run of misfits as GMs and coaches, so now I'm trolling a bit.

And for the Marv days: Thibs kind of summons images of Holzman for me, nerdy, middle aged, bald(ing) white guy but commanding respect because of his knowledge of the game and the results on the court.
RE: Douchebag Grayson Allen chokes at the FT line  
TyreeHelmet : 4/15/2021 9:40 am : link
In comment 15221317 bceagle05 said:
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and Luka nails a circus three to win it. I told myself a month ago I was done watching Dallas games....


Memphis completely choked that game away. Grayson Allen is a talented player but his attitude will always hurt him. How about him laughing after missing both free throws? But Luka is ridiculous- such a special player.

This has been an awesome year. Such a pleasure to watch and Thibs deserves coach of the year. I think Randle has a shot at all nba too...
RE: Seeing a guy like Burks go off in the 4th  
Dr. D : 4/15/2021 9:41 am : link
In comment 15221253 Stu11 said:
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and Clyde describing it with his Clyde adjectives is like porn for the ears...

My Directv receiver seems to be having troubles and it was recording the NO feed instead of MSG, until I corrected it about 20 min. into the game. I don't mind listening to other broadcasters for a little bit, but it sure was nice when I caught up and could listen to Clyde instead of the others.
RE: Douchebag Grayson Allen chokes at the FT line  
Del Shofner : 4/15/2021 9:52 am : link
In comment 15221317 bceagle05 said:
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and Luka nails a circus three to win it. I told myself a month ago I was done watching Dallas games....


Just watched the replay - that shot by Luka was insane.
RE: RE: Douchebag Grayson Allen chokes at the FT line  
bceagle05 : 4/15/2021 10:18 am : link
In comment 15221517 Del Shofner said:
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Just watched the replay - that shot by Luka was insane.

Yeah, watching it live I thought it was a two-pointer to tie it, and may have been after the buzzer anyway. Didn't even consider that it could be a three-pointer. Just shows you the great ones have this extra special feel for the game.
Haha, only saw the minute long clip on highlights, but KP  
Jim in Hoboken : 4/15/2021 10:24 am : link
didn’t join his teammates in celebrating. He was wide open too, but Luka could make the shot himself while stumbling. It must eats at him, and his idiot brother, that now he’s only carrying Doncic’s jock in Dallas.
RE: Haha, only saw the minute long clip on highlights, but KP  
TyreeHelmet : 4/15/2021 10:40 am : link
In comment 15221575 Jim in Hoboken said:
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didn’t join his teammates in celebrating. He was wide open too, but Luka could make the shot himself while stumbling. It must eats at him, and his idiot brother, that now he’s only carrying Doncic’s jock in Dallas.


He made a huge shot down the stretch and had some key defensive plays and rebounds as well. He played very well last night.

His brother hasn’t been in the US for a few years now and I’m guessing he’s pretty happy to have a max contract playing with Luka. It also seemed like either it was a 2 or didn’t get it off in time so maybe that’s why he wasn’t celebrating.
RE: RE: Haha, only saw the minute long clip on highlights, but KP  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2021 10:45 am : link
In comment 15221614 TyreeHelmet said:
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In comment 15221575 Jim in Hoboken said:


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didn’t join his teammates in celebrating. He was wide open too, but Luka could make the shot himself while stumbling. It must eats at him, and his idiot brother, that now he’s only carrying Doncic’s jock in Dallas.



He made a huge shot down the stretch and had some key defensive plays and rebounds as well. He played very well last night.

His brother hasn’t been in the US for a few years now and I’m guessing he’s pretty happy to have a max contract playing with Luka. It also seemed like either it was a 2 or didn’t get it off in time so maybe that’s why he wasn’t celebrating.


He has voiced his displeasure with his shots and playing time in the 4th quarter all year..

I dont think he took a shot in the 4th last night, that is probably why he was unhappy..

remember there was a report that part of the reason he was unhappy with Knicks was because they were planning on bringing someone in who ws better than him and that player would be the face...He wanted a say in who the Knicks signed
KP  
TyreeHelmet : 4/15/2021 11:01 am : link
I watched the game. He took a few shots in the 4th. He hit a really tough shot with a minute left to cut the lead to 3. Also had some key defensive plays on Valinucas.

I’m also specifically talking about last night but he played well. I also don’t understand the desire from Knicks fans to shit all over him. I honestly don’t blame him for wanting to leave the Steve Mills Knicks. They were a dumpster fire.
Lamarcus Aldridge  
GMEN46 : 4/15/2021 11:17 am : link
Just retired for health reasons. Guy had a great career, feel bad for him, but clearly the right decision.
another blow for Chicago  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2021 2:50 pm : link
Lavine out several games according to woj because of health and safety protocols
RE: another blow for Chicago  
larryflower37 : 4/15/2021 3:17 pm : link
In comment 15221996 nygiants16 said:
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Lavine out several games according to woj because of health and safety protocols


Chicago looks in trouble for the playoffs.
Washington and Toronto are making a big push.
Indiana is starting to play well.

Hopefully the Knicks grab the 6th spot and let Miami, Charlotte, Indiana, toronto, and washington fight it out.
The off-season is going to be really interesting....  
manh george : 4/15/2021 5:05 pm : link
looking at Knicks salary cap capacity and players that would be worth re-signing. Do they get to re-sign Burks and Noel (while keeping Robinson) without breaking the bank?

Do they figure out a way to combine picks/assets in order to move up into the early teens in the draft? Do they find a high-quality shooter FA who is something less than a superstar, such as Fournier? Do they get Lonzo Ball or someone at that level at pg?

I am very intrigued by Fournier, btw.
Well he are paying enough for front  
Carl in CT : 4/15/2021 5:15 pm : link
Office personal to figure it all out. They had a nice offseason assembling this team (greater than individual parts) maybe they can build on it.
Hawks about to lose at home to Bucks  
Del Shofner : 4/15/2021 9:58 pm : link
with Marv announcing on TBS BTW.

Brings the Knicks within a game of the Hawks.

Watching this game, I appreciate Thibs. I know the Bucks are good but like the Hawks they play undisciplined hoops to a great extent. There is so much 3-point chucking in the NBA these days. I prefer watching the Knicks.
RE: The off-season is going to be really interesting....  
nygiants16 : 4/15/2021 10:07 pm : link
In comment 15222134 manh george said:
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looking at Knicks salary cap capacity and players that would be worth re-signing. Do they get to re-sign Burks and Noel (while keeping Robinson) without breaking the bank?

Do they figure out a way to combine picks/assets in order to move up into the early teens in the draft? Do they find a high-quality shooter FA who is something less than a superstar, such as Fournier? Do they get Lonzo Ball or someone at that level at pg?

I am very intrigued by Fournier, btw.


Off season is simple for me, get a point hopefully Lonzo and add a lefit all around shooting guard..

I still think Beal will become available, if not i go after Trent or Powell
I predicted celts would put it together  
Carl in CT : 4/15/2021 11:44 pm : link
But boy do I hate them
16  
manh george : 4/16/2021 3:29 am : link
Beal is projected to cost a huge amount in trade. If there is a really good scoring 3 around instead of a 2, Barrett can do fine at the two when everyone around him is making shots. (e.g., Fournier.) There aren't twos around, except possibly all-stars that he can't guard. And, as he start making dribble threes--which he cannot do now--his value at the two grows.

I also need the second team to remain filled, and to play d. Beating a team that has stars requires great shooting, great d, and depth. The Knicks can get there as Barrett and Quickley grow up--if they keep and fill their second team. This is the year for that.
RE: 16  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2021 9:22 am : link
In comment 15222691 manh george said:
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Beal is projected to cost a huge amount in trade. If there is a really good scoring 3 around instead of a 2, Barrett can do fine at the two when everyone around him is making shots. (e.g., Fournier.) There aren't twos around, except possibly all-stars that he can't guard. And, as he start making dribble threes--which he cannot do now--his value at the two grows.

I also need the second team to remain filled, and to play d. Beating a team that has stars requires great shooting, great d, and depth. The Knicks can get there as Barrett and Quickley grow up--if they keep and fill their second team. This is the year for that.


Yeah i should kf said wing rather than 2 but i think its interchangeable..

I agree on the bench, i want to keep Rose, Burks and maybe even bullock
Yeah...  
manh george : 4/16/2021 11:51 am : link
and if they buy a wing and a pg and get two quality backups out of the draft--in three tries, or in two tries if they trade up--the team will be basically filled. I think that some players that probably slot into the second team, like Noel, may wish to stay around. I would love Robinson plus Noel, and a third big as a backup.

A true quality team that plays with passion would have the Garden rocking like nothing since Reed/Frazier or the best 2-3 years of Ewing. And everyone on the team would bask in it, and players around the league know that. A lot of sports pundits don't. Can you imagine 15,000 fans chanting "de-fense" at the top of their lungs? That would add 5 turnovers a game. The homecourt advantage would set records, except possibly for the Kobe Lakers and the Alcindor Lakers and a couple of Celtic teams.
Fun piece about the draft.  
manh george : 4/16/2021 11:55 am : link

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It’s silly for The Knicks to dream about any of the draft’s top-tier prospects, but there will plenty of talent with star potential in the 15-25 range, an area of the draft where they will likely have two selections. One player who they could select in that range is Baylor’s Davion Mitchell.


The Knicks got very lucky this year in terms of the unusual depth of this draft, given their two picks in the mid-late teens, and their Detroit second rounder. A pg, a wing and a big is a potential combination.
Link - ( New Window )
I would sign up right now for the two Baylor guards  
bceagle05 : 4/16/2021 12:34 pm : link
with our first rounders and not look back. Especially Mitchell, who would fit here like a glove.
They're both older players, however,  
bceagle05 : 4/16/2021 12:54 pm : link
but I don't get too caught up with that, especially on a win-now team (can't believe I'm saying that in reference to the Knicks).
Burks out health and safety  
nygiants16 : 4/16/2021 12:56 pm : link
hopefully it is close contact and not a positive test
RE: Burks out health and safety  
Del Shofner : 4/16/2021 1:12 pm : link
In comment 15223103 nygiants16 said:
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hopefully it is close contact and not a positive test


huh - and he's been really good lately. Wish him the best.
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