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Marc Ross regrets not pushing more to draft Russell Wilson

Sean : 4/15/2021 11:17 am
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Ex- #Giants VP of player evaluation Marc Ross, asked by Kevin if he could take one mulligan on a draft pick in his career, says in hindsight he would fight harder to draft Russell Wilson. Says then-NYG scout Ryan Jones said: “this guy’s the next Drew Brees.” What could have been

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Ross would need alot of mulligans  
George from PA : 4/15/2021 11:19 am : link
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And I regret Marc Ross.  
JoeMorrison40 : 4/15/2021 11:19 am : link
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in other news,  
Pork Chop : 4/15/2021 11:19 am : link
Pork Chop regrets not buying Amazon stock in 1998.
Life has many regrets...  
BamaBlue : 4/15/2021 11:19 am : link
when you use hindsight as a yard stick.
Bullshit  
Jay on the Island : 4/15/2021 11:20 am : link
I don’t believe a word this guy says.
Wilson  
Everyone Relax : 4/15/2021 11:20 am : link
was drafted in the 3rd round. Every GM and scout regrets passing on him. Also, Drew Brees is a pretty strange comp for him.
after they had just won the Super Bowl?  
KDavies : 4/15/2021 11:20 am : link
yeah, it wasn't happening.
Dnew regrets  
Dnew15 : 4/15/2021 11:21 am : link
opting to drink so many beers last night.
so on brand for him  
bigbluehoya : 4/15/2021 11:22 am : link
I had it totally right, I just didn't pound the table hard enough for it
In other news.... Russell Wilson super thankful....  
Britt in VA : 4/15/2021 11:22 am : link
that Ross didn't.
The pairing..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/15/2021 11:24 am : link
of Ross with Leonard sends the bullshit meter right off the charts.

If he really had to fight hard to get the team to draft Wilson, who lasted to the 3rd round, I really doubt it. Maybe he think this in retrospect after seeing wilson's career, but at the time, if they drafted a QB, it would have been strictly to be a backup
This guy  
Lines of Scrimmage : 4/15/2021 11:25 am : link
has all the traits of a narcissist.
slow news day  
UConn4523 : 4/15/2021 11:26 am : link
looking forward to reading about all the ex-Execs pissed that they didn't push hard enough for Brady.
RE: The pairing..  
eric2425ny : 4/15/2021 11:26 am : link
In comment 15221695 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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of Ross with Leonard sends the bullshit meter right off the charts.

If he really had to fight hard to get the team to draft Wilson, who lasted to the 3rd round, I really doubt it. Maybe he think this in retrospect after seeing wilson's career, but at the time, if they drafted a QB, it would have been strictly to be a backup


Ha ha, the bullshit meter is like This is Spinal Tap where they turn the dial up to 11.
confusing....  
BillKo : 4/15/2021 11:27 am : link
.....Ross wanted Ross for the Giants in 2012 draft....that makes no sense.

With Eli still in his prime and off a year that he really was the MVP and won the SB?



Ross is delusional enough to believe that's what his problem was  
ghost718 : 4/15/2021 11:27 am : link
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RE: confusing....  
BillKo : 4/15/2021 11:27 am : link
In comment 15221702 BillKo said:
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.....Ross wanted Ross for the Giants in 2012 draft....that makes no sense.

With Eli still in his prime and off a year that he really was the MVP and won the SB?




Ross wanted Wilson**
interesting story about passing on Russell Wilson  
KDavies : 4/15/2021 11:29 am : link
I am in the Dolphins market, so listen to a lot of their local radio. Barry Alvarez interviewed for the Dolphins head-coach position that offseason.

He was asked something to the effect of what was one thing he would do in order to improve the Dolphins. He emphatically said, "Draft Russell Wilson!"

He didn't get the job. Dolphins passed on Wilson, drafting Tannehill at #8 (Keuchly was #9). Dolphins drafted the infamous Jonathan Martin in the 2nd. And Vernon in the 3rd, a couple picks before Wilson.

That is a team that should be pissed about passing on Wilson. Not a team that just won the Super Bowl.
RE: The pairing..  
BillKo : 4/15/2021 11:29 am : link
In comment 15221695 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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of Ross with Leonard sends the bullshit meter right off the charts.

If he really had to fight hard to get the team to draft Wilson, who lasted to the 3rd round, I really doubt it. Maybe he think this in retrospect after seeing wilson's career, but at the time, if they drafted a QB, it would have been strictly to be a backup


Exactly.

And if the concept is Eli declined quickly and Wilson was ready to step in....well...that's just going back in history and setting yourself up to succeed.

The drafting should have been to build around Eli more and protect him.
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Bricktop : 4/15/2021 11:30 am : link
IMHO Ross Came Across Really Poorly  
Trainmaster : 4/15/2021 11:32 am : link
on the "Finding Giants" special. After that show, it was clear to me he was among our biggest problems in finding the right talent.

He was so full of himself, it was nauseating.

Not listening to McAdoo about trading up for Mahomes  
90.Cal : 4/15/2021 11:32 am : link
Should be on the top of Reese's/Ross's list.
Just kidding  
90.Cal : 4/15/2021 11:33 am : link
I have no idea if thats really true
And the NY Giants regret that the NFL Network  
NYGgolfer : 4/15/2021 11:33 am : link
didn't hire Marc Ross earlier than did.
RE: Just kidding  
BillKo : 4/15/2021 11:35 am : link
In comment 15221719 90.Cal said:
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I have no idea if thats really true


I am sure it's true.......Mac probably really liked him. So did other HC's I am sure.

But it's just a question of whether they want to pull the trigger on a trade. That doesn't always happen.

We can say this about a lot of players, but I think Mac gets too much credit in this area.

He was a poor HC.
It’s a good listen..  
Sean : 4/15/2021 11:35 am : link
Ross confirmed there was a leaker in the building which cost them Leonard Floyd. Also wanted Conklin that year.
I see...  
Anakim : 4/15/2021 11:37 am : link
So Marc Ross would've drafted a QB on Day 2 of the Draft after Eli just led us to the Super Bowl.



Alright, Jan...
This  
AcidTest : 4/15/2021 11:41 am : link
is ridiculous. We had Eli, who wasn't anywhere close to retirement. I bet a lot of teams regret not drafting Wilson, Brady, Marino, etc.
Oh please.  
Mike from SI : 4/15/2021 11:43 am : link
What bullshit. As a friend in baseball tells me, "every GM either has an excuse why they didn't draft Mike Trout or swears they would have drafted Mike Trout if he had fallen to them."

Really easy to do this stuff in hindsight.
RE: I see...  
Go Terps : 4/15/2021 11:45 am : link
In comment 15221730 Anakim said:
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So Marc Ross would've drafted a QB on Day 2 of the Draft after Eli just led us to the Super Bowl.



Alright, Jan...


It actually would have been a great move, in hindsight.
His  
Toth029 : 4/15/2021 11:46 am : link
Bullshit meter is always on.
Wilson  
Toth029 : 4/15/2021 11:49 am : link
Without a top flight defense or top flight running game? That would have ended well.

His diva attitude with Coughlin, too. Throwing other players under the bus.
RE: And I regret Marc Ross.  
Tuckrule : 4/15/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15221681 JoeMorrison40 said:
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+1. Horrible evaluator
hey, at least he pounded the table for Davis Webb  
Eric on Li : 4/15/2021 11:49 am : link
I wonder if they ever got the keys to the gym back from him.
RE: RE: I see...  
KDavies : 4/15/2021 11:50 am : link
In comment 15221743 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15221730 Anakim said:


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So Marc Ross would've drafted a QB on Day 2 of the Draft after Eli just led us to the Super Bowl.



Alright, Jan...



It actually would have been a great move, in hindsight.


There's so many variables beyond just drafting him. Does Wilson get enough reps in practice? If he doesn't, maybe he doesn't show enough to become what he did. If he does, does he still ride the pine behind a 2 time SB winning QB? Do the Giants just trade him to avoid a QB controversy? Does Wilson show better than Eli? Do they have a QB controversy? What is the outcome of the Giants replacing a 2 time SB winning QB with a young, unproven QB? Etc.

....  
BrettNYG10 : 4/15/2021 11:50 am : link
Wilson grew into an elite QB - sort of like Roethlisberger did. I don't know if Wilson develops the same way with the Giants. The Seahawks were a pretty good situation to step into. They were 7-9 with Tavaris Jackson as the starter in 2011.
Reese regrets hiring Ross.  
George from PA : 4/15/2021 11:54 am : link
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RE: ....  
bLiTz 2k : 4/15/2021 11:54 am : link
In comment 15221756 BrettNYG10 said:
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Wilson grew into an elite QB - sort of like Roethlisberger did. I don't know if Wilson develops the same way with the Giants. The Seahawks were a pretty good situation to step into. They were 7-9 with Tavaris Jackson as the starter in 2011.


rip
Why  
AcidTest : 4/15/2021 11:56 am : link
should he have any regrets about not drafting Wilson? He drafted Ryan Nassib, Rhett Bomar, Andre Woodson, and Davis Webb.
RE: RE: I see...  
Anakim : 4/15/2021 12:02 pm : link
In comment 15221743 Go Terps said:
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In comment 15221730 Anakim said:


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So Marc Ross would've drafted a QB on Day 2 of the Draft after Eli just led us to the Super Bowl.



Alright, Jan...



It actually would have been a great move, in hindsight.


"In hindsight" being the key phrase
I can think of a few more mulligans I wish Ross  
mfsd : 4/15/2021 12:04 pm : link
could have for the drafts he ran
It is so stupid, Eli manning  
Essex : 4/15/2021 12:07 pm : link
was coming off hid second super bowl MVP and he never missed a game due to injury, taking a qb in the end of the second round would have been so ridiculously dumb.
The implication is that he knew something nobody did.  
Ron Johnson : 4/15/2021 12:08 pm : link
He didn't fight harder because he didn't have a strong conviction. It's that simple.
RE: Ross would need alot of mulligans  
j_rud : 4/15/2021 12:10 pm : link
In comment 15221680 George from PA said:
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More than an Irish church
I am sure there are Giant fans  
HomerJones45 : 4/15/2021 12:10 pm : link
who regret not pushing Ross over the Mezzanine. Enough with this clown.
RE: I see...  
ZogZerg : 4/15/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15221730 Anakim said:
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So Marc Ross would've drafted a QB on Day 2 of the Draft after Eli just led us to the Super Bowl.



Alright, Jan...


A day 2 SECOND ROUND PICK.

This guy is a complete clown show.
So Marc Ross is trying to pad his resume with phantom achievements  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/15/2021 12:12 pm : link
... What's next? "I would have picked every pro-bowler that was picked after the Giants picked!"
It's weird how  
PwndPapi : 4/15/2021 12:15 pm : link
fans with little to no knowledge of how draft planning happens at an organizational level always gravitate towards one whipping boy when things go sideways. Despite the fact that it's probably a collaborative effort, with the GM and ownership weighing in frequently.

I don't claim to have inside knowledge on the NYG or Ross. I just find it weird that so many here believe they do.
Does Marc Ross also regret not pushing more for David Bakhtiari?  
Anakim : 4/15/2021 12:19 pm : link
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/15/2021 12:25 pm : link
Sure Marc, sure.
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