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Bigislandfan : 4/15/2021 5:36 pm
Let’s take away his character concerns, how does Parsons look in our defense?
Pretty damn good, whether he is inside or outside.  
Ivan15 : 4/15/2021 5:43 pm : link
Regardless of who drafts him, I am waiting to see where pro coaches decide he will play.
RE: ... how does Parsons look in our defense  
Trainmaster : 4/15/2021 5:44 pm : link
Likely much better than anyone we've had at LB for along time.

3 down LB that can do it all  
Rjanyg : 4/15/2021 5:53 pm : link
He will wear number 51
He probably wouldn't make it to 11  
George from PA : 4/15/2021 6:00 pm : link
This guy is a stud and he knows it
He would  
OC2.0 : 4/15/2021 6:00 pm : link
Look outstanding I'm thinking. As for character concerns DG & JJ need look no further than their own staff for the lowdown.
who's a better player Parsons or Isiaiah Simmons?  
CMicks3110 : 4/15/2021 6:02 pm : link
Sy gave Simmons and 89 grade last year. That's higher than anyone he's profiled so far this year. Is Parsons better?
Better on the outside than the inside  
jeff57 : 4/15/2021 6:03 pm : link
His reads on running plays often have him out of position.
I think Parsons is the best defender in the draft  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/15/2021 6:04 pm : link
but I don't think it's productive to suggest ignoring the character concerns unless you think they're fictional to begin with, or if you think the Giants will ignore them (that doesn't seem likely).

From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.

I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
RE: I think Parsons is the best defender in the draft  
ColHowPepper : 4/15/2021 6:10 pm : link
In comment 15222225 Gatorade Dunk said:
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...From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.

I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
Fair assessment, GD. The only caveat would be that Giant coaches formerly with PSU have insight not likely available to PSU outsiders. How likely is that in many $$ millions of personnel decisions at stake? Probably not so much.
I think Parsons will be there at 11  
George : 4/15/2021 6:27 pm : link
because I think nine teams ahead of us are going to go Offense and the tenth is going to take Patrick Surtain.

I think we should take Parsons.

I also think the Giants won't.
RE: who's a better player Parsons or Isiaiah Simmons?  
LeonBright45 : 4/15/2021 6:31 pm : link
In comment 15222222 CMicks3110 said:
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Sy gave Simmons and 89 grade last year. That's higher than anyone he's profiled so far this year. Is Parsons better?


Parsons and Simmons are completely different in style. Simmons is a big safety while Parsons is a true linebacker. Parsons is better sifting through traffic and shooting the gaps. He is more physical. He can take on and shed blockers. Simmons is basically only effective if he can run free and unimpeded towards the ball while the other ten players cover the responsibilities and do the dirty work. Parsons can do more things for your defense in the front seven while still giving you what Simmons can in the back seven. ..Just my opinion.
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ryanmkeane : 4/15/2021 6:59 pm : link
Rico has flat out stated Parsons is a no
All the Parsons chat  
81_Great_Dane : 4/15/2021 7:10 pm : link
is reminding me of the Rolando McClain buzz. Maybe he pans out, maybe he doesn't. Linebackers bust just like every other position,
RE: ...  
j_rud : 4/15/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15222314 ryanmkeane said:
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Rico has flat out stated Parsons is a no


Yes. We know. Because its stated multiple times on every thread Parsons in mentioned in.
RE: who's a better player Parsons or Isiaiah Simmons?  
Bill in UT : 4/15/2021 7:14 pm : link
In comment 15222222 CMicks3110 said:
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Sy gave Simmons and 89 grade last year. That's higher than anyone he's profiled so far this year. Is Parsons better?


Simmons sucked this year, 89 or not
RE: RE: who's a better player Parsons or Isiaiah Simmons?  
PatersonPlank : 4/15/2021 8:20 pm : link
In comment 15222341 Bill in UT said:
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In comment 15222222 CMicks3110 said:


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Sy gave Simmons and 89 grade last year. That's higher than anyone he's profiled so far this year. Is Parsons better?



Simmons sucked this year, 89 or not


Rather than being some new type of transitional player, Simmons is really jsust a player without a position.
Compared to Simmons...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/15/2021 8:33 pm : link
... Parsons does more things downhill.
The Giants are looking for stellar defenders who don’t play downhill they should be looking at Patrick Surtain.
If they want to increase their aggression they should be looking at Parsons.

As much as I love the idea of Smith or waddle Parsons is my number one Surtain is my number two.

I’ll take any of the four before Slater.
RE: I think Parsons is the best defender in the draft  
djm : 4/15/2021 9:03 pm : link
In comment 15222225 Gatorade Dunk said:
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but I don't think it's productive to suggest ignoring the character concerns unless you think they're fictional to begin with, or if you think the Giants will ignore them (that doesn't seem likely).

From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.

I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.


I fear you’re correct. Hate how much sense this makes. Maybe there are enough good players and parsons slips. Five qbs, 2wr, the OL, Pitts, the corner...that’s 10, or even 4 qbs and 2 OL.....presto? Parsons is there at 11.

We need four qbs to go. Maybe even five. Or we need an edge or 2 OL..
I’ll say it now  
djm : 4/15/2021 9:05 pm : link
Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
RE: I’ll say it now  
Bear vs Shark : 4/15/2021 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15222495 djm said:
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Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
Parsons feels like a player that will end up on Dallas and be hated by our fanbase for years
RE: I’ll say it now  
Rjanyg : 4/15/2021 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15222495 djm said:
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Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.


This would make me puke. I hate the Cowboys and love Parsons.
RE: I’ll say it now  
The Mike : 4/15/2021 9:42 pm : link
In comment 15222495 djm said:
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Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.


I still think they will take either Horn or Surtain opposite Trevon Diggs. Their secondary has been a disaster and these are two great cornerbacks. They still have two very good linebackers in Van der Esch and Smith...
Parsons  
stretch234 : 4/16/2021 9:57 am : link
I think there is a chance he is there at 11. Teams are looking for the T. Hill effect of a player dramatically opening up the field. I see all 3 WR gone by the time the Giants pick

3 down athletic versatile LB's a so much harder to find than most other positions.

Saying that, Dallas has 2 very good LB and still cant stop anyone - they are getting a CB

To me then it becomes Parsons or OL. I can find an interior OL later - odds are you are not finding an impact 3 down LB

RE: RE: I’ll say it now  
djm : 4/16/2021 10:01 am : link
In comment 15222544 The Mike said:
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In comment 15222495 djm said:


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Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.



I still think they will take either Horn or Surtain opposite Trevon Diggs. Their secondary has been a disaster and these are two great cornerbacks. They still have two very good linebackers in Van der Esch and Smith...


I hope they take a corner. Corners are so hard to find these days and the good collegiate corners always seem to take a step back in the pros. The great ones are pretty much unicorns. Maybe I am nuts to think that way, but it sure seems like NFL corners are fighting an uphill battle these days.
Dallas could go with Parsons or Surtain  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/16/2021 5:53 pm : link
both would be great picks for them -- but Parsons may have more juice
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