but I don't think it's productive to suggest ignoring the character concerns unless you think they're fictional to begin with, or if you think the Giants will ignore them (that doesn't seem likely).
From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.
I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
RE: I think Parsons is the best defender in the draft
...From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.
I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
Fair assessment, GD. The only caveat would be that Giant coaches formerly with PSU have insight not likely available to PSU outsiders. How likely is that in many $$ millions of personnel decisions at stake? Probably not so much.
Sy gave Simmons and 89 grade last year. That's higher than anyone he's profiled so far this year. Is Parsons better?
Parsons and Simmons are completely different in style. Simmons is a big safety while Parsons is a true linebacker. Parsons is better sifting through traffic and shooting the gaps. He is more physical. He can take on and shed blockers. Simmons is basically only effective if he can run free and unimpeded towards the ball while the other ten players cover the responsibilities and do the dirty work. Parsons can do more things for your defense in the front seven while still giving you what Simmons can in the back seven. ..Just my opinion.
... Parsons does more things downhill.
The Giants are looking for stellar defenders who don’t play downhill they should be looking at Patrick Surtain.
If they want to increase their aggression they should be looking at Parsons.
As much as I love the idea of Smith or waddle Parsons is my number one Surtain is my number two.
I’ll take any of the four before Slater.
RE: I think Parsons is the best defender in the draft
but I don't think it's productive to suggest ignoring the character concerns unless you think they're fictional to begin with, or if you think the Giants will ignore them (that doesn't seem likely).
From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.
I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
I fear you’re correct. Hate how much sense this makes. Maybe there are enough good players and parsons slips. Five qbs, 2wr, the OL, Pitts, the corner...that’s 10, or even 4 qbs and 2 OL.....presto? Parsons is there at 11.
We need four qbs to go. Maybe even five. Or we need an edge or 2 OL..
Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
Parsons feels like a player that will end up on Dallas and be hated by our fanbase for years
Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
This would make me puke. I hate the Cowboys and love Parsons.
Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
I still think they will take either Horn or Surtain opposite Trevon Diggs. Their secondary has been a disaster and these are two great cornerbacks. They still have two very good linebackers in Van der Esch and Smith...
I think there is a chance he is there at 11. Teams are looking for the T. Hill effect of a player dramatically opening up the field. I see all 3 WR gone by the time the Giants pick
3 down athletic versatile LB's a so much harder to find than most other positions.
Saying that, Dallas has 2 very good LB and still cant stop anyone - they are getting a CB
To me then it becomes Parsons or OL. I can find an interior OL later - odds are you are not finding an impact 3 down LB
Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
I still think they will take either Horn or Surtain opposite Trevon Diggs. Their secondary has been a disaster and these are two great cornerbacks. They still have two very good linebackers in Van der Esch and Smith...
I hope they take a corner. Corners are so hard to find these days and the good collegiate corners always seem to take a step back in the pros. The great ones are pretty much unicorns. Maybe I am nuts to think that way, but it sure seems like NFL corners are fighting an uphill battle these days.
From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.
I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
I think we should take Parsons.
I also think the Giants won't.
Parsons and Simmons are completely different in style. Simmons is a big safety while Parsons is a true linebacker. Parsons is better sifting through traffic and shooting the gaps. He is more physical. He can take on and shed blockers. Simmons is basically only effective if he can run free and unimpeded towards the ball while the other ten players cover the responsibilities and do the dirty work. Parsons can do more things for your defense in the front seven while still giving you what Simmons can in the back seven. ..Just my opinion.
Yes. We know. Because its stated multiple times on every thread Parsons in mentioned in.
Simmons sucked this year, 89 or not
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Sy gave Simmons and 89 grade last year. That's higher than anyone he's profiled so far this year. Is Parsons better?
Simmons sucked this year, 89 or not
Rather than being some new type of transitional player, Simmons is really jsust a player without a position.
The Giants are looking for stellar defenders who don’t play downhill they should be looking at Patrick Surtain.
If they want to increase their aggression they should be looking at Parsons.
As much as I love the idea of Smith or waddle Parsons is my number one Surtain is my number two.
I’ll take any of the four before Slater.
From what we know about the Giants, I think it's fair to say this: if Parsons' character concerns are much ado about nothing, he's most likely not available at #11. And if he's available at #11, it's most likely because the character concerns are still swirling, in which case the Giants will almost certainly pass on him.
I just don't see a realistic path to Parsons becoming a Giant, or at least not drafted by the Giants.
I fear you’re correct. Hate how much sense this makes. Maybe there are enough good players and parsons slips. Five qbs, 2wr, the OL, Pitts, the corner...that’s 10, or even 4 qbs and 2 OL.....presto? Parsons is there at 11.
We need four qbs to go. Maybe even five. Or we need an edge or 2 OL..
This would make me puke. I hate the Cowboys and love Parsons.
I still think they will take either Horn or Surtain opposite Trevon Diggs. Their secondary has been a disaster and these are two great cornerbacks. They still have two very good linebackers in Van der Esch and Smith...
3 down athletic versatile LB's a so much harder to find than most other positions.
Saying that, Dallas has 2 very good LB and still cant stop anyone - they are getting a CB
To me then it becomes Parsons or OL. I can find an interior OL later - odds are you are not finding an impact 3 down LB
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Dallas is gonna take parsons. They don’t fuck around when it comes to talent in the draft. It’s talent first everything else is a distant second. Guy could be an axe murderer with two broken legs but blue chip nfl talent? Dallas would run to the podium.
I still think they will take either Horn or Surtain opposite Trevon Diggs. Their secondary has been a disaster and these are two great cornerbacks. They still have two very good linebackers in Van der Esch and Smith...
I hope they take a corner. Corners are so hard to find these days and the good collegiate corners always seem to take a step back in the pros. The great ones are pretty much unicorns. Maybe I am nuts to think that way, but it sure seems like NFL corners are fighting an uphill battle these days.