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NFT: NFT: Artemi Panarin

dannysection 313 : 4/15/2021 7:45 pm
I know there's a Ranger's thread, and I also know that hockey is a distant fourth in popularity to football, baseball and basketball but...

Is Artemi Panarin the best New York athlete in any sport at this point?

Lindor, deGrom, Cole, Randel, Judge, Barkley, maybe? I'd give deGrom as the best competition..

This guy is just a pleasure to watch, he's on a different level than anyone on the Rangers and usually anyone on the ice. 135 points in his first 100 games as a Ranger, more than even the Captain.

Talk about money well spent...

DeGrom and Cole  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/15/2021 8:01 pm : link
are arguably the top 2 starters in baseball, DeGrom probably a hair better. Durant is a Top 3 NBA player when healthy and Harden is Top 7. They've all been on that elite level longer than Panarin has, but it's obviously tough to compare across sports.
I've been a Ranger fan since the late 60's  
arniefez : 4/15/2021 8:16 pm : link
The five greatest players I've seen play for the Rangers are Ratelle, Gilbert, Park, Messier and Leetch. Panarin is right there with them.

To my eyes he's a combination or Rick Middleton and Mike Bossy. He sees the ice and avoids contact like Middleton and he snipes with accuracy that is Bossy like.

I agree he's on the short list for best player in NY right now.
He’s not even the best hockey player  
Metnut : 4/15/2021 8:24 pm : link
in Ny.
deGrom  
pjcas18 : 4/15/2021 8:29 pm : link
has been recognized twice as the best pitcher in the sport and came close a 3rd time.

Panarin never made the list yet (he did win Calder and is an all-star, but his best Hart finish was 3rd and never was 1st in any category).

Panarin is phenomenal (Cole too), but to be in the deGrom conversation you need to reach that pinnacle and stay there a while.

Plus deGrom is homegrown and that gives him another advantage IMO.

Overall DeGrom if you factor health and availability in.  
Mike from SI : 4/15/2021 8:32 pm : link
If you want to discount the health/availability factor, I think DeGoat and Durant are tied. You can make a decent argument that Durant is the best basketball player right now when healthy.
Yes, Harden and Durant...  
dannysection 313 : 4/15/2021 8:38 pm : link
Forgot about them...

FWIW, I'm a huge Met's fan and love Jake...

BTW, someone said he's not the best hockey player in NY? Who am I missing? Matthew Barzal? Adam Fox?
RE: He’s not even the best hockey player  
Bricktop : 4/15/2021 8:41 pm : link
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No? Who's that?
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mfsd : 4/15/2021 8:43 pm : link
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Yes he is
RE: Overall DeGrom if you factor health and availability in.  
BigBlueShock : 4/15/2021 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15222451 Mike from SI said:
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If you want to discount the health/availability factor, I think DeGoat and Durant are tied. You can make a decent argument that Durant is the best basketball player right now when healthy.

If we are talking about RIGHT NOW, Durant isn’t anywhere on the list. How many games has he played the past two seasons?
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Greg from LI : 4/15/2021 9:04 pm : link
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No? Who's that?


He's going to say Barzal, and then I will laugh and laugh.

Islanders have the better team at the moment, but claiming Panarin isnt the best player is absurd.
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Bricktop : 4/15/2021 9:07 pm : link
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No? Who's that?



He's going to say Barzal, and then I will laugh and laugh.

Islanders have the better team at the moment, but claiming Panarin isnt the best player is absurd.


Barzal better than Panarin? Hahaha, ooooook, circus freak. That's some Long Island Dipshit kool-aid braindead moronical commit-me-now and give me ALL the pills nonsense.
At least he didn’t say Eichel  
Anakim : 4/15/2021 9:13 pm : link
But yeah, Panarin is dominant
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JayBinQueens : 4/15/2021 9:21 pm : link
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No? Who's that?



He's going to say Barzal, and then I will laugh and laugh.

Islanders have the better team at the moment, but claiming Panarin isnt the best player is absurd.


It's clearly ryan strome
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JayBinQueens : 4/15/2021 9:22 pm : link
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No? Who's that?



He's going to say Barzal, and then I will laugh and laugh.

Islanders have the better team at the moment, but claiming Panarin isnt the best player is absurd.



Barzal better than Panarin? Hahaha, ooooook, circus freak. That's some Long Island Dipshit kool-aid braindead moronical commit-me-now and give me ALL the pills nonsense.


Someone's a little excited
I think it's deGrom  
bigbluehoya : 4/15/2021 9:23 pm : link
but Panarin is in the top 3-4 without a doubt.
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Bricktop : 4/15/2021 9:25 pm : link
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No? Who's that?



He's going to say Barzal, and then I will laugh and laugh.

Islanders have the better team at the moment, but claiming Panarin isnt the best player is absurd.



Barzal better than Panarin? Hahaha, ooooook, circus freak. That's some Long Island Dipshit kool-aid braindead moronical commit-me-now and give me ALL the pills nonsense.



Someone's a little excited


At least I'm not delusional.
I’d say...  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/15/2021 9:27 pm : link
1 - Durant
2 - Harden
3 - Degrom
4 - Cole
5 - Breadman
Can I nominate  
Bricktop : 4/15/2021 9:29 pm : link
Jay Bruce for the WORST athlete in NY?
I mean...we should be a little more selective  
Anakim : 4/15/2021 9:31 pm : link
The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.
RE: Can I nominate  
PwndPapi : 4/15/2021 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15222527 Bricktop said:
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Jay Bruce for the WORST athlete in NY?


Be silent. Else Sandy will hear you and trade for him.
RE: Can I nominate  
Greg from LI : 4/15/2021 9:32 pm : link
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Jay Bruce for the WORST athlete in NY?


Seconded!
RE: Can I nominate  
Anakim : 4/15/2021 9:35 pm : link
In comment 15222527 Bricktop said:
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Jay Bruce for the WORST athlete in NY?


I don't know about Jay Bruce, but Brett Howden has to be up there
RE: RE: Can I nominate  
Bricktop : 4/15/2021 9:38 pm : link
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Jay Bruce for the WORST athlete in NY?



I don't know about Jay Bruce, but Brett Howden has to be up there


Jay Bruce makes Brett Howden look like Mario Lemieux.
RE: I mean...we should be a little more selective  
Danny Kanell : 4/15/2021 9:54 pm : link
In comment 15222530 Anakim said:
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.


Your top 2 teams play in New Jersey. Terrible effort, Anak.
RE: RE: I mean...we should be a little more selective  
Anakim : 4/15/2021 9:55 pm : link
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.



Your top 2 teams play in New Jersey. Terrible effort, Anak.


I'd say it's more about perception. When people think of New York, they think of New York City. Broadway, Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building...all that good shit.
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Bricktop : 4/15/2021 10:09 pm : link
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.



Your top 2 teams play in New Jersey. Terrible effort, Anak.



I'd say it's more about perception. When people think of New York, they think of New York City. Broadway, Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building...all that good shit.


Yeah, that's a no from me dog. If you have a New York-related team name, you're a NY team.
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Anakim : 4/15/2021 10:11 pm : link
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.



Your top 2 teams play in New Jersey. Terrible effort, Anak.



I'd say it's more about perception. When people think of New York, they think of New York City. Broadway, Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building...all that good shit.



Yeah, that's a no from me dog. If you have a New York-related team name, you're a NY team.


So the Bills and Sabres are New York teams? All I'm saying is that I put the Islanders and Nets into that category. Yeah, they're in New York, but they don't conjure up images of New York.
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Bricktop : 4/15/2021 10:19 pm : link
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.



Your top 2 teams play in New Jersey. Terrible effort, Anak.



I'd say it's more about perception. When people think of New York, they think of New York City. Broadway, Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building...all that good shit.



Yeah, that's a no from me dog. If you have a New York-related team name, you're a NY team.



So the Bills and Sabres are New York teams? All I'm saying is that I put the Islanders and Nets into that category. Yeah, they're in New York, but they don't conjure up images of New York.


Of course they're NY teams. NY is bigger than just the five boroughs and LI. But whatever. Be weird.
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Anakim : 4/15/2021 10:24 pm : link
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.



Your top 2 teams play in New Jersey. Terrible effort, Anak.



I'd say it's more about perception. When people think of New York, they think of New York City. Broadway, Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building...all that good shit.



Yeah, that's a no from me dog. If you have a New York-related team name, you're a NY team.



So the Bills and Sabres are New York teams? All I'm saying is that I put the Islanders and Nets into that category. Yeah, they're in New York, but they don't conjure up images of New York.



Of course they're NY teams. NY is bigger than just the five boroughs and LI. But whatever. Be weird.


They're literally New York teams, but they're not perceived as New York teams. Hell, I do
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Anakim : 4/15/2021 10:24 pm : link
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.



Your top 2 teams play in New Jersey. Terrible effort, Anak.



I'd say it's more about perception. When people think of New York, they think of New York City. Broadway, Statue of Liberty, Empire State Building...all that good shit.



Yeah, that's a no from me dog. If you have a New York-related team name, you're a NY team.



So the Bills and Sabres are New York teams? All I'm saying is that I put the Islanders and Nets into that category. Yeah, they're in New York, but they don't conjure up images of New York.



Of course they're NY teams. NY is bigger than just the five boroughs and LI. But whatever. Be weird.



They're literally New York teams, but they're not perceived as New York teams. Hell, I do


*I don't think most Americans know where Buffalo is
Good to see you  
Bricktop : 4/15/2021 10:30 pm : link
again, Anak. Hope the legal career is going well bud.
RE: I mean...we should be a little more selective  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/15/2021 10:31 pm : link
In comment 15222530 Anakim said:
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.


So Brooklyn isn’t New York but Queens is?
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Anakim : 4/15/2021 10:34 pm : link
In comment 15222608 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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The true New York teams are:

1) Football Giants
2) Jets
3) Yankees
4) Mets
5) Rangers
6) Knicks


Brooklyn? Long Island? Spare me.



So Brooklyn isn’t New York but Queens is?


Again, perception. Mets embrace the New York image. The Nets portray Brooklyn as distinct from New York City (i.e. Manhattan)
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Mad Mike : 4/15/2021 11:42 pm : link
In comment 15222611 Anakim said:
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Again, perception. Mets embrace the New York image. The Nets portray Brooklyn as distinct from New York City (i.e. Manhattan)

That lack of irony in this statement is amusing.
This is the dumbest thread ever.  
chopperhatch : 4/16/2021 12:03 am : link
Yes Panarin is the best hockey player in NY/NJ. Maybe the entire East Coast.

Dont be stupid.
RE: This is the dumbest thread ever.  
Bricktop : 4/16/2021 12:25 am : link
In comment 15222655 chopperhatch said:
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Yes Panarin is the best hockey player in NY/NJ. Maybe the entire East Coast.

Dont be stupid.


It's simple. Let me explain it like you're a child. The Mets are more New York than the Nets. The Nets are more New York than the Islanders. The Giants are more NY than the Jets. New York Red Bulls are more New York than the Sabres even though they play in New Jersey and the Sabres play in New York. The Jets are more NY than the Bills despite playing their home games in another state. NYCFC is more New York than the Buffalo Bills because they play soccer in a baseball stadium in the Bronx. And the Sabres are more NY than the Nets, but not really because they both reside in gentrified shitholes. Get with the program. This is New York!
We need a flow chart  
PwndPapi : 4/16/2021 12:30 am : link
STAT.
Who is Artemi Panarin?  
moze1021 : 4/16/2021 7:16 am : link
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Panarin  
ChicagoMarty : 4/16/2021 10:13 am : link
was my favorite hockey player when he was with the Black Hawks

Watching 'the breadman' create on the ice with Patrick Kane was such a pleasure.

Naturally, days after I purchased a Black Hawk Panarin shirt he was traded.

Yes I am bitter
RE: Panarin  
pjcas18 : 4/16/2021 10:45 am : link
In comment 15222913 ChicagoMarty said:
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was my favorite hockey player when he was with the Black Hawks

Watching 'the breadman' create on the ice with Patrick Kane was such a pleasure.

Naturally, days after I purchased a Black Hawk Panarin shirt he was traded.

Yes I am bitter


one of the worst trades ever.

Just a horrible trade. Firable - Panarin for Saad? Panarin was already a 70+ point player at the time of the trade. Saad never sniffed that and wasn't some defensive whiz. Usually after a trade like this you find out the guy slept with another players wife or something (I am making no such claim - but that's how bad this trade was).

I used to think the Caps trading Filip Forsberg for Martin Erat was worse and that's still terrible, but not worse.
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