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Mel Kiper: Giants “have to think about” drafting Slater

GFAN52 : 4/16/2021 3:34 pm
They have to "think" about a lot players, not just Slater.

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“I would not count out the Giants drafting an offensive lineman (at No. 11),” Kiper said. “You’ve gotta fix that spot or Daniel Jones is going to have no chance, even though you’ve got some receivers now with (Kenny) Golladay coming in, you could add Jaylen Waddle, you could add a lineman, could add a linebacker like Micah Parsons. They have some needs they have to address in this draft, it’s doing to be interesting to see how they attack it

To that end, Kiper said the Giants “would have to think about” drafting Northwestern offensive lineman Rashawn Slater at No. 11 regardless of who else is in the board in the 2021 NFL Draft.

“Slater’s a heckuva player,” Kiper said. “He can play left tackle, right tackle or guard, so he can wear a lot of hats on that offensive line … if Slater’s there he would be really interesting.”

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I’m probably one of the few on here who like Mel.  
Big Blue '56 : 4/16/2021 3:35 pm : link
In this case, he said absolutely nothing.. :)
Giants are in a good spot  
JB_in_DC : 4/16/2021 3:36 pm : link
Lot of guys to be happy about drafting at 11. Slater is definitely one. Kiper mostly saying nothing here - but still - two weeks out from draft - I feel good.
i like VT  
ryanmkeane : 4/16/2021 3:38 pm : link
better than Slater. Wouldn't hate the Slater pick, but if we are taking a guard at 11, he better be a damn pro bowler and quick.
I'd be shocked  
JonC : 4/16/2021 3:45 pm : link
if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.
RE: I’m probably one of the few on here who like Mel.  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/16/2021 3:46 pm : link
In comment 15223299 Big Blue '56 said:
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In this case, he said absolutely nothing.. :)


First thing I thought to. Essentially they are going to be drafting a football player, surprised he didn't throw punter in there.
RE: I'd be shocked  
ryanmkeane : 4/16/2021 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15223311 JonC said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.

that's music to my ears...i guess we will throw Parsons in there too based on Peppers nugget today. Reasonable to think that Smith, Waddle, Parsons, Paye are the top 4
Mel covering all bases  
UConn4523 : 4/16/2021 3:50 pm : link
just draft them all!
Slater can start at G,  
BigBlueNH : 4/16/2021 3:52 pm : link
but can also back up both T positions, obviating the need to spend $ on a reliable swing T. It is easier, and cheaper, to find someone who can sub in at G, if Slater were to kick out to T.

I am among those who believe that another solid OLine starter is more likely to improve our O than another WR or TE (with the possible exception of Pitts, who will be long gone by the time we pick). I also fear a repeat of last season's struggles on O if the OLine doesn't improve.
Captain Obvious  
jeff57 : 4/16/2021 3:56 pm : link
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RE: I'd be shocked  
GFAN52 : 4/16/2021 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15223311 JonC said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.


I am hoping it's WR or Edge. Look at drafting for the OL in rounds 2 or 3.
RE: RE: I'd be shocked  
JonC : 4/16/2021 3:59 pm : link
In comment 15223321 ryanmkeane said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.


that's music to my ears...i guess we will throw Parsons in there too based on Peppers nugget today. Reasonable to think that Smith, Waddle, Parsons, Paye are the top 4


Plus Surtain.
so  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/16/2021 4:05 pm : link
the take-away here is that the Giants need to think about drafting one of the best players in the draft?

Got it.
RE: I'd be shocked  
djm : 4/16/2021 4:22 pm : link
In comment 15223311 JonC said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.


Same. Add Pitts to that but he won't be there anyway. And PArsons is edge ;)
RE: RE: I'd be shocked  
Angel Eyes : 4/16/2021 4:27 pm : link
In comment 15223361 djm said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.



Same. Add Pitts to that but he won't be there anyway. And PArsons is edge ;)

If he’s an edge, why hasn’t he been marketed as an edge? Everything I’ve read up on him (including Sy’s guide) he’s listed as a linebacker like Martinez.
I’d take Slater over any of the ERs  
jeff57 : 4/16/2021 4:48 pm : link
Only one I wouldn’t is Phillips. If he didn’t have the concussion issue.
RE: so  
BillT : 4/16/2021 5:09 pm : link
In comment 15223340 Eric from BBI said:
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the take-away here is that the Giants need to think about drafting one of the best players in the draft?

Got it.

Eric. Not just need to but have to. Imagine the Giants actually having to think about football players. Will wonders never cease.
"The Giants are in a good spot"  
WillieYoung : 4/16/2021 5:54 pm : link
12 wins in 3 years. Not a good spot. We won March. Like the Redskins did signing Dana Stublefeld (have no idea how to spell his name) or Bruce Smith.
We have an enormous number of questions at various positions. I think we have answers to many of them. (I love Peart and Lemieux. I think Slayton will bounce back from his sophomore slump the way Toomer did...etc.). But the front office has to be terrified to get this draft wrong. And we only have 6 picks so every miss is magnified. And it isn't enough to get guys who can play special teams. We got a boatload of them last year.
Kiper...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/16/2021 6:03 pm : link
... making sure he has every base covered.

That said I agree 56, well this was nothing I do watch him when I catch him on TV. I suppose he’s just too much a part of the 80s for me to completely ignore him.
Jeepers he actually took the time to say that?  
Dave on the UWS : 4/16/2021 6:11 pm : link
I shit Sherlock but they are probably looking at most of the top 15 players to make their board. Doesn’t take muck to figure that out. Mel is ok but that’s a bit too Captain Obvious for me.
RE: so  
eric2425ny : 4/16/2021 6:17 pm : link
In comment 15223340 Eric from BBI said:
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the take-away here is that the Giants need to think about drafting one of the best players in the draft?

Got it.


Ha ha, more expert analysis from our friends at ESPN.
Slater will be off the board  
allstarjim : 4/16/2021 6:40 pm : link
By 11 anyway.
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SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/16/2021 6:47 pm : link
I forget the GM, but that GM who told Kiper off during a mid '90s draft was classic.
RE: ...  
Angel Eyes : 4/16/2021 6:50 pm : link
In comment 15223515 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I forget the GM, but that GM who told Kiper off during a mid '90s draft was classic.

Bill Polian was his name.
“Who the Hell is Mel Kiper?!” - ( New Window )
None of the edges  
tyrik13 : 4/16/2021 8:29 pm : link
Are worth the reach at 11. Slater won’t make it to 11. I’m banking on it’s either WR Or Parsons
RE: None of the edges  
FStubbs : 4/16/2021 9:02 pm : link
In comment 15223569 tyrik13 said:
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Are worth the reach at 11. Slater won’t make it to 11. I’m banking on it’s either WR Or Parsons


It's likely Fields and Lance are at 11 and somebody makes us an offer to prevent Philly from grabbing them at 12.
RE: RE: None of the edges  
Producer : 4/16/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15223591 FStubbs said:
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Are worth the reach at 11. Slater won’t make it to 11. I’m banking on it’s either WR Or Parsons



It's likely Fields and Lance are at 11 and somebody makes us an offer to prevent Philly from grabbing them at 12.


I think it is highly unlikely either Lance or Fields will be there at 11. Perhaps Mac Jones will be there.
RE: Slater will be off the board  
giantstock : 4/16/2021 9:24 pm : link
In comment 15223510 allstarjim said:
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By 11 anyway.


As much as he would be my favorite pick - I don't think the Giants will take him. As a result, it comes down to Smith (and maybe Waddle) or possibly Surtain. I don't expect Pitts, Chase, or Sewell to be available. So it's bets if someone takes Slater, increasing the Giants chances of getting Smith.
RE: RE: Slater will be off the board  
giantstock : 4/16/2021 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15223629 giantstock said:
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By 11 anyway.



As much as he would be my favorite pick - I don't think the Giants will take him. As a result, it comes down to Smith (and maybe Waddle) or possibly Surtain. I don't expect Pitts, Chase, or Sewell to be available. So it's bets if someone takes Slater, increasing the Giants chances of getting Smith.


I meant to say As a result, it comes down to Smith (and maybe Waddle) or possibly Surtain instead of the Edge which I prefer they don't get with the 11th pick.
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DonQuixote : 4/17/2021 8:52 am : link
In comment 15223516 Angel Eyes said:
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I forget the GM, but that GM who told Kiper off during a mid '90s draft was classic.


Bill Polian was his name. “Who the Hell is Mel Kiper?!” - ( New Window )


Bill Tobin ...
I would be perfectly happy with Slater...  
KingBlue : 4/17/2021 9:20 am : link
I would be perfectly happy with Waddle
I think we are going edge... I could get happy with Paye or or Ojulari even LB Parsons

I think I want Waddle
RE: I'd be shocked  
cokeduplt : 4/17/2021 9:41 am : link
In comment 15223311 JonC said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.


Edge at 11 would piss me off. There’s zero chance the best player available will be an edge.
RE: RE: I'd be shocked  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 9:46 am : link
In comment 15223947 cokeduplt said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.



Edge at 11 would piss me off. There’s zero chance the best player available will be an edge.


Jon is basically saying OL (aside from a near miraculous Sewell drop) won't make the grade for the Giants here. If you look at their history they rarely if ever took a guy to play OG round 1.
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cokeduplt : 4/17/2021 9:47 am : link
In comment 15223952 Judge_and_Jury said:
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if they don't go WR or Edge at #11.



Edge at 11 would piss me off. There’s zero chance the best player available will be an edge.



Jon is basically saying OL (aside from a near miraculous Sewell drop) won't make the grade for the Giants here. If you look at their history they rarely if ever took a guy to play OG round 1.



And it would be a mistake to pass on Slater for an edge.
It's not zero chance  
JonC : 4/17/2021 9:48 am : link
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RE: It's not zero chance  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 9:50 am : link
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New info or never say never?
Never say never  
JonC : 4/17/2021 9:51 am : link
they clearly value the Edge prospects and they have shown they will reach for need.
RE: Never say never  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 10:03 am : link
In comment 15223956 JonC said:
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they clearly value the Edge prospects and they have shown they will reach for need.


I would think we would go Edge over any OL not named Sewell. Personally I would p take Slater , Jenkins or even AVT over the Edge in this draft but I doubt that's how NYG is thinking. But a WR like Smith making 11 should undoubtedly change the dynamic.
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Peppers : 4/17/2021 10:35 am : link
EDGE prospects usually get pushed up the board based on positional value and need.. And Jon is right, NYG has shown they aren't afraid to take a player earlier than projected (by the consensus).

I don't personally believe an EDGE will be the BPA at 11 because the number of QBs going in the top 10 will push back higher graded prospects. However, this is team-building. It's not as simple as "draft BPA". There's an equation; BPA, need, p.v., analytical data, medicals, character are all key factors in that equation. Some hold more weight than others depending on the team.. That's how draft boards are built.

I think a higher tier prospect will be there at #11  
JonC : 4/17/2021 10:47 am : link
and a Waddle, Parsons, or Surtain will be the pick. But, if they are all somehow gone, right now I think they would pick Paye. A trade down is a risk DG normally doesn't take.

Only 12 more days, let's see what other info gets out.
He was a star at Bayside High  
Pete in MD : 4/17/2021 11:47 am : link
Gee, thanks Mel.  
Section331 : 4/17/2021 11:56 am : link
Team in need of OL should consider drafting the 2nd best OL in the draft.

They pay him for this?
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