At 11. FWIW.
Nothing is set in stone with two weeks to go until the draft, but multiple NFL sources told SNY they sensed that the Giants were leaning towards taking a pass rusher in the first round of the draft. Whether they really would pass on Smith and Waddle isn’t completely clear, but one source said the Giants have “done a lot of work on” the top edge rushers who could go in Round 1.
They are believed to be particularly high on Michigan’s Kwity Paye and Georgia’s Azeez Ojulari, but Miami’s Jaelan Phillips and Gregory Rousseau and even Penn State’s Jayson Oweh could be in the mix, especially if the Giants do something GM Dave Gettleman has never done -- trade down.
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Me too.
Heehee sarcasm.
Both she and RV have claimed sources not just to be reading tea leaves, like who attended pro days.
Paye and Ojuari are not who I want, but this regime never does that, so all the more credibility.
This.
I’d even go a step further, if Smith gets close and Dave/Judge think they might get jumped, trading up should be in play, even with the limited draft resources available.
If Smith is gone and Howie wants to jump the NYG for Waddle, my advice for Roseman is “Have at it, Hoss”...
They either assume Smith and Waddle will be gone by 11 or they know they would take either if avaiable.
That could have been figured out a month ago. The work needs to be done on what to do at 11 if they arent there. and more importantly how far they can move and get the guy they want.
They either assume Smith and Waddle will be gone by 11 or they know they would take either if avaiable.
That could have been figured out a month ago. The work needs to be done on what to do at 11 if they arent there. and more importantly how far they can move and get the guy they want.
Nothing is set in stone with two weeks to go until the draft, but multiple NFL sources told SNY they sensed that the Giants were leaning towards taking a pass rusher in the first round of the draft.
So this is the news:
1-“Nothing is set in stone.”
2-“Multiple sources..........SENSED that the Giants were LEANING..”
Alrighty then
Yep.
But they've “done a lot of work on" the edge rushers! I'd be shocked (and very disappointed) if there were any position group outside of K/P that they haven't done a lot of work on.
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If Smith is there @ 11, no chance Giants pass on him.
Absolutely zero chance we pass on Smith. Period.
Does Waddle move the needle enough to keep us from picking Paye?
How do you spell DAVID WILSON?🤔🤔
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If Smith is there @ 11, no chance Giants pass on him.
Absolutely zero chance we pass on Smith. Period.
how many Giant drafts have you seen? If it's greater than zero, you'd know there is absolutely a chance the Giants would pass on Smith to draft an edge prospect. The NYG have made poor draft decisions in the past and can easily do it again.
Many people have him in the 12-15 range.. not very far from 11. Wouldn't surprise me at all if he is the pick. not my first choice.. I would prefer Waddle/Slater... but wouldn't shock me at all.
" but multiple NFL sources told SNY they sensed that the Giants were leaning towards"
That would be my dream non football expert draft of , "building the roster through the draft" since Edge is so hard to find in FA or they cost $20mm and the highest drafted Edge we have is Carter I believe and he is coming off a significant injury and it would be a surprise if he was able to come back yr 1 at same level as pre-injury. Our Edge position is the worst in the league.
Even if they don't trade down, which is what history indicates, If you look at over all resource allocation purely to Edge, out of every position on the roster you could argue it's the least invested in. (3 Carter, 4 Ximenes, 7 Coughlin 7 and 2 day 3 FA's). I'm pretty positive outside of a healthy Carter none on our Edge players would start for any other NFL team.
If they Picked Paye at 11 I woudn't throw the remote.
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Nothing is set in stone with two weeks to go until the draft, but multiple NFL sources told SNY they sensed that the Giants were leaning towards taking a pass rusher in the first round of the draft.
So this is the news:
1-“Nothing is set in stone.”
2-“Multiple sources..........SENSED that the Giants were LEANING..”
Alrighty then
You forgot one thing... "NFL sources".
It is clear that nothing is being leaked to our writers from the team itself. These are outside opinions by who? NFL management types or NFL reporters? An NFL source can be a lot of different people of all different jobs.
I get it. These writers have to put something out there. But we as fans have to understand what it means. They are doing their job the best they can with the information they have. But it is the ones that come off like they know things when they don't.
My biggest problem is just what journalism has become nowadays. I've stated this before but I absolutely despise rankings and top 10 lists or whatever. The other thing is predictions. Holy shit, I don't care about predictions. It is the main reason I can't watch most talking heads. The best shows are the ones where people breakdown the game. NFL Matchup was good. NFL Playbook was good. Baldy's Breakdowns are fantastic. People are gravitating towards Skinner. The problem is the market isn't big enough for these types of shows/clips. People can learn more from one Baldy Breakdown than a whole year of pre game shows. Does anybody care what Frank Caliendo's record is in picking games?
Get additional draft capital and you can get great Edge and WR talent in second round
Need to bolster OLine NOW
You forgot one thing... "NFL sources".
It is clear that nothing is being leaked to our writers from the team itself. These are outside opinions by who? NFL management types or NFL reporters? An NFL source can be a lot of different people of all different jobs.
"NFL sources" is polite code language reporters use to avoid directly saying that they are getting leaks from within the team they cover. Kim Jones used the same code label for her sources in her own recent report.
You can doubt the quality of the information but, yes, RV and Jones are getting info from inside. It's their jobs. They cultivate contacts over a period of years.
People leak because having information that other people want makes them feel important.
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You forgot one thing... "NFL sources".
It is clear that nothing is being leaked to our writers from the team itself. These are outside opinions by who? NFL management types or NFL reporters? An NFL source can be a lot of different people of all different jobs.
"NFL sources" is polite code language reporters use to avoid directly saying that they are getting leaks from within the team they cover. Kim Jones used the same code label for her sources in her own recent report.
You can doubt the quality of the information but, yes, RV and Jones are getting info from inside. It's their jobs. They cultivate contacts over a period of years.
People leak because having information that other people want makes them feel important.
I completely disagree. Not one of our writers has gotten anything this offseason. And, quite honestly, since Gettleman arrived. All of our writers were waiting for someone like Josina to write something and then they immediately after start saying similar things. If they are getting any information now it is false info imo.
1) Pitts/Chase - definitely gone by 10
2) Smith/Waddle - most likely gone by 10, Waddle may be off due to not running
3) Defense - Edge/CB/LB - several possibilities, all will be there at 11
The only thing that has probably changed is that they think Smith will be gone by 11 now - their internal mocks.
The key is picking #11 it's a bit harder to discern who they will actually pick. Whereas it's pretty clear we know the approx 5 prospects the Giants pick will come from. Not sure how much more accurate you expect right now.