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2021 NFL Draft Preview - Offensive Tackle

Sy'56 : 4/17/2021 4:36 am
OFFENSIVE TACKLE

Format includes a quick position overview, my grading scale and what the number means, the summary and final grade from my final report on my top 15, a quick additional note on the player, and my ranks 16-30 with grades only.

*I AM NOT DOING NFL COMPARISONS

QUICK POSITION OVERVIEW

On paper, the Giants appear set for 2021 at tackle. While the progression questions still need to be answered (only comes with time) when looking at Andrew Thomas and Matt Peart, both are tool-rich and flashed as rookies. Thomas ended the year strong and played the majority of his season with a bad wheel, and Peart was showing signs before being derailed by Covid. When looking at how rookie offensive linemen play year to year, both were average. Nothing to be worried about, but also nothing to put in stone just yet. I think that means in regard to 2021, those two are the starting tackles week 1. That is in the bag unless an injury occurs obviously. Nate Solder comes back at a reduced-price tag to back both of them up and while he has been a major disappointment since signing a huge contract, there are much worse backup tackles in the league. If Thomas and Peart move forward in their progression respectively, NYG is in a really good spot with them being on rookie contracts for the next few years. If one of them faulters, the trouble sign will once again begin to flash. Jackson Barton and Kenny Wiggins offer back-end roster depth inside and outside and the coaches have said good things about Chad Slade. To be as simple as possible, this is coming down to Thomas and Peart.

GRADING SCALE

90+ All Pro Projection
85+: Pro Bowl Projection
81-84: 1st rounder – should be able to play right away
79-80: 2nd rounder – Should be able to rotate right away – Year 2 starter
77-78: 3rd rounder – Should be able to rotate by end of rookie year – Year 2/3 starter
74-76: Early Day 3 – Special Teams – Future backup/possible starter
71-73: Mid Day 3 – Special Teams – Future backup / gamble starter
68-70: Late Day 3 – Back end of roster / Practice Squad / Development guy
65-67: Preferred UDFA
60-64: Undrafted FA


TOP 15 GRADES AND ANALYSIS

1. Penei Sewell / Oregon / 6’5-331

Grade: 91


Summary: Junior entry from Malaeimi, Americam Samoa. Two-year starter that opted out of the 2020 season. Earned Honorable Mention all-conference honors as a true freshman in 2018 before being named Co-Pac 12 Offensive Player of the year in 2019. Sewell delivered on his highly touted high school recruit profile, ending his playing career at Oregon as the winner of the Outland and Morris Trophy, respectively. Sewell has elite potential that stems from his combination of size, athleticism, and techniques. He is a consistent weapon the trenches that has an extremely high win rate both as a run and pass blocker. He is a comfortable mover, he has outstanding hand strength, and he almost always looks under full control no matter the situation. Because he opted out of the 2020 season, however, Sewell will enter the league with just 20 college games under his belt. He needs to develop more power and trust in his lower half and become less dependent on simply being more talented than his opponent. He was a man among boys in college, but his subtle and hard to notice weaknesses will need to be cleaned up if he wants to carry that success into the NFL.

*Sewell has legitimate All-Pro potential. He can be the Quenton Nelson of tackles; a guy that comes in and makes an entire offense better simply because he is on the field throwing his weight around. If he somehow drops to #11, he has to be the pick. What do you do with him? Again, an unpopular opinion here, but I say you throw him at left guard where he could almost right away be top 5 guard in the NFL, and this running game go wild. If Thomas faulters at left tackle, which needs to be considered a possibility, you have Sewell who can shift over. Sewell not playing in 2020 is causing some in the media to question him. Nonsense. This kid has rare ability and will be a big-time player at a position that causes so many problems for different teams in the league. There is a chance we see him go to ATL at 4, he’s been training at right tackle and part of me thinks he’s been told by someone to do it.

2. Christian Darrisaw / Virginia Tech / 6’5-322

Grade: 83


Summary: Junior entry from Upper Marlboro, Maryland. Two-year starter that ended his career first team All ACC. Darrisaw checks a lot of boxes when it comes to size, athletic ability, and body control. He is rarely found off balance or losing his base. Darrisaw shows the hard to find, unique trait of getting on his man and sticking to him like a magnet. That initial hand placement combined with such a stable and twitchy lower half can enable him to mirror defenders that play the speed game. His true strength and power will need to be developed over his first couple of years in the league but if that does catch up with the rest of his skill set, he has as much potential as any offensive lineman in this class.

*At first glance, I saw a tackle that was heading toward the top 10. His balance and hand techniques were so easy and consistent. Upon further review, he has a few holes (albeit correctable) that need to be cleaned up. He doesn’t always play with man-power and there are too many plays where he just isn’t getting after his man. I like bullies in the trenches but even then, I still prefer guys that play with balance and control. Starting tackle that has elite upside if he enhances his power and grit.

3. Spencer Brown / Northern Iowa / 6’8-311

Grade: 82


Summary: Fifth year senior from Lenox, Iowa. Three-year starter that had his redshirt senior season postponed because of the Covid-19 pandemic. 2nd Team All Missouri Valley Conference in 2019. Brown comes from a hometown of 1,500 people and played 8-man high school football where he was a tight end and defensive end. He was a 0-star recruit that received just one scholarship offer. He then hurt his knee after 5 games into his redshirt freshman season before he started to turn heads over the course of the next two years. Brown developed his frame while maintaining his plus-foot speed and body control in a big way. The well-versed athlete is still early in the progression scale in comparison to fellow offensive line prospects, but there is a tool set here that very few possess. Brown is a one-to-two-year project with elite upside. He is worth taking a chance on.

*It surprised me, and admittedly causes some hesitation, to place a 1st round grade on a kid from Northern Iowa. I’ll go on record though; Brown has the ceiling of an All-Pro. I really do believe that. The question will be how much NFL coaching and NFL strength work elevates his game. Brown is already a freak athlete, and he already shows the understanding of footwork + hand techniques. I thought he was one of the biggest winners from Senior Bowl week and that was after having his 2020 season cancelled. I have to admit there is a lot of risk with a prospect like this and that is why I have his grade down here. I see a lot of Taylor Decker here, one of the most underrated tackles in the game.

4. Alex Leatherwood / Alabama / 6’5-312

Grade: 79


Summary: Senior entry from Pensacola, Florida. Three-year starter, one at guard and two at left tackle. Three-time 1st Team All SEC, two-time 1st Team All American, and 2020 Outland Trophy Award winner. Leatherwood capped off his career with 40 straight starts split between left guard and left tackle. He has an NFL body and power presence right now. He will undoubtedly be ready to step into an NFL offensive line week 1 if needed. The question will revolve around where he is best suited. The physical talent and upside should land him at tackle, where his overwhelming strength, length, and quickness can be most effectively used. However, a team that already has the outside shored up can use him early on at guard. There are some pass protection issues he needs to clean up from a technique perspective, most notably with his hands and body control. His power and ability to move men off the ball will be an asset to a running game and should provide immediate contributions if he were inside initially. No matter what, this is a starting caliber player that will increase the mauling at the point of attack for any offensive line.

*Some teams will look at him as a guard, some teams will look at him as a tackle. I see him as an offensive lineman that can play either spot based on the situation he is drafted into. If NYG goes for him, I think he is the starting left guard week 1 and I would feel really good about it. Leatherwood never quite reached the 1st round tier on my grading scale, but I still like him as a pro. He is heavy handed and a better athlete than some give him credit for. He has a few issues in pass protection that were actually similar to what I saw in Andrew Thomas last year. Maybe NYG sees that and comes out of the process with the same outlook; they think they can fix him enough and mold him into a key part of their offensive line. Leatherwood will certainly be in their discussion day 2 if he is there and NYG does not go OL round 1.

5. Dillon Radunz / North Dakota State / 6’4-301

Grade: 79


Summary: Fifth year senior from Becker, Minnesota. Started for two complete seasons. In 2017, he started 1 game then missed the rest of the season with a knee injury. In 2020, North Dakota State’s season was just one game because of the Covid-19 pandemic. 1st Team All American and Missouri Valley Conference in 2019, 2nd Team All-Conference in 2018. Radunz has elite body control and balance and it led to him being dominant at the FCS level. He then went to the Senior Bowl and had a really solid week against the better competition. This is the kind of offensive lineman that has all of the movement and balance traits but may need some extra time before he is thrown into the mix at the next level. He doesn’t seem to have that natural power and anchor that handles the man-strength found on a play-by-play basis in the league. He is an ideal fit for a heavy zone-blocking scheme and if he reaches his upside, you are talking about a very solid left tackle for a long time.

*Radunz was another impressive player in that he was forced to miss all of the 2020 season because of the school cancelling their program, but he still showed up to the Senior Bowl and performed admirably. I love the balance Radunz plays with, such a natural athlete. He may even be a better fit inside in a zone blocking scheme where his lack of true strength can be hidden a bit. No matter where he plays, he will be a solid player. There is a nice combination of grit and athletic ability here, but I think there is a cap on just how good he can be.

6. Liam Eichenburg / Notre Dame / 6’6-306

Grade: 78


Summary: Fifth year senior from Cleveland, Ohio. Three-year starter that earned 1st Team All ACC honors in 2020 and was an Outland Trophy finalist. Eichenberg also won the ACC’s Jacobs Blocking Trophy, given to the conference’s top blocker voted on by the league’s Head Coaches and Defensive Coordinators. Eichenberg is a throwback, blue collar lineman that gets the job done consistently through technique, grit, and desire. Where he lacks physical talent and ability through tools and traits, he can make up for in his approach and mental game. He may need to make a move inside but no matter where he lines up, he is the kind of lineman that plays to a higher result than the sum of his parts. His mental game is strong, his techniques are repeatable, and he has good brute strength in his hands and base respectively.

*This is a name to keep an ear out for when NYG gets on the clock day 2, assuming they don’t go OL in round 1. Eichenburg can play tackle at the next level, but if a team like NYG brings him in, he can easily transition inside. One could make the case he would be better at guard because there have been issues with him getting beat on his outside shoulder. Eichenburg is a technician that plays hard and smart. Just seems like a Joe Judge kind of guy and he brings extra versatility to the table. I bet he is in the league for a long time.

7. Jalen Mayfield / Michigan / 6’5-326

Grade: 78


Summary: Junior entry from Grand Rapids, Michigan. Two-year starter that earned Honorable Mention All-Big 10 honors in 2019. Mayfield initially opted out of the 2020 season but changed his mind, playing in just 2 games before suffering an ankle injury. Mayfield only has 15 career starts on his resume. His upside is obvious, as his size and athleticism are easy to respect. He carries a lot of weight on a big and wide frame, and it certainly plays a role in his dominant run blocking. When he gets a strong punch and maintains inside hand position, which occurs often, he looks lethal. Mayfield is, as expected, still pretty raw when it comes to techniques in pass protection and overall staying power. He still has multiple holes in his footwork after he is engaged with his man, narrowing his base and playing too tall. He has starter-upside but won’t be ready right away. Mayfield could also make a move inside where his pop off the ball could factor earlier in his career while he develops pass blocking approaches.

*Mayfield will likely go earlier than where I have him slotted. Nobody can deny his upside, as he put forth a performance against Chase Young in 2019 that may be the best lone performance I saw out of all these tackles, and I mean that. Mayfield just lacked the snap-to-snap consistency. It looked like there was an issue with his switch, just simply turning off and on too often. This is a player that ideally sits for a year, has the coaching staff work with him and feel out his drive, and let him see the field in 2022. A good team that will need a tackle next year (LAR? DAL?) would be a good landing spot for him.

8. Tevin Jenkins / Oklahoma State / 6’6-317

Grade: 78


Summary: Fifth year senior from Topeka, Kansas. Four-year starter that earned 1st Team All Big 12 honors in 2020 after being named Honorable Mention in both 2018 and 2019. Jenkins has experience at both tackle spots, although he was predominantly on the right side. He is an old school mauler that cherishes the opportunity to run block. He takes it on as a personal challenge to grab his man and put him through the sideline play after play. He already has man strength, and it was evident he was playing against boys at times in college. Jenkins checks the boxes when it comes to size, playing strength, and attitude. He needs to clean up his essential and vital techniques. His pad level and base-width are all over the place when it comes to consistency and it has produced more than his fair share of ugly tape. The starter potential is there, and the issues are correctable. High upside player.

*Jenkins is an old school right tackle prospect in that he is the big and physical mauler that doesn’t always know what he’s doing but will pretty much always throw his weight around and enhance the line’s physical attitude. He absolutely tossed Texas edge rusher Joseph Ossai around in their matchup this past year and yes, that truly does make a difference in some scouts’ eyes. Some players elevate their level of play against higher level of competition and that is something I keep hearing about Jenkins. Some view him as a late 1st rounder, I can see why.

9. James Hudson / Cincinnati / 6’5-313

Grade: 76


Summary: Fourth year junior from Toledo, Ohio. One-year starter that earned 1st Team All AAC honors in 2020. Originally a defensive line recruit that began his career at Michigan before transferring to Cincinnati in 2018. Hudson underwent a nationally-known mental health situation that enabled his transfer. The NCAA denied his immediate eligibility, thus forcing him to sit out all by 1 game. Hudson then played in the shortened 2020 season, starting 10 times. That is it. Hudson is still incredibly raw and inexperienced, but there is absolutely no denying his physical talent and upside. Hudson has a lot to learn and clean up but there is a level of explosion, twitch, and power here that very few can match. It may take a year-plus, but Hudson could be a starting tackle or guard for a long time, and a very good one.

*There is a lot of hype around this kid when looking at the long-term upside. His college career was as rocky as it gets, and he may be the most inexperienced prospect in this class. Some want to steer clear of that, others start dreaming about value in relation to where he can be had in the draft. I’ve been told he could even be a day two pick, which is wild because I thought I was too high on him. He is a gifted mover, and he plays hard. It will come down to how hard he works and how well he is coached. Could move to guard too.

10. Foster Sarell / Stanford / 6’6-318

Grade: 75


Summary: Fourth year junior from Graham, Washington. A two-year starter that earned Honorable Mention All-Pac 12 honors in 2019 after missing most of 2018 with a knee injury. Sarell only started 17 games over his career but possesses an NFL body and plays with very quick, active feet. He was the emotional leader of the Stanford offensive line and is clearly a try-hard player that will get the most out of himself. There are multiple technique shortcomings but they all stem from his over-aggression, which will cause him to overset and reach. If he can learn to be more patient and allow his ability to take over, Sarell has starter potential down the road. The athletic ability, pop, and desire are all there. He simply needs time and good coaching.

*A few guys I know have an undrafted grade on Sarell, and that is fine. He doesn’t have the lower body juice and athleticism that some want. I think he makes up for it enough with is tenacity, hustle, and size. He plays big and violent. I’m not sure if NYG really wants to use a draft resource on another tackle. If they do, unless they get major value at #11 (who might move to OG anyway), I think it is late. And I see Sarrell being a guy you can get late and stash on the practice squad for a year.

11. Samuel Cosmi / Texas / 6’6-314

Grade: 75


Summary: Fourth year junior from Humble, Texas. Three-year starter that earned All Big 12 honors in 2019 and 2020, respectively. 1st Team All Big 12 in 2020. Cosmi is a tall and athletic tackle with good hand striking and fighting. He has an aggressive style that will work well in the running game. He gets a solid initial pop and is athletic enough to stay on defenders as he moves downhill. His issues consistently pop up in pass protection, however. His high hips and lack of knee bend make it very difficult for him to stay balanced and upright. He dips his head too often and just doesn’t maintain quality posture throughout. There isn’t a lot of sustainable power in his legs either. He has a lot to fix before being considered a starter at the next level.

*I had a feeling Cosmi was going to get more publicity after his Pro Day. All due respect, he absolutely crushed that Pro Day. He may be one of the better overall athletes in the class and coaches will bang the table for him. Every coach wants the athlete because they feel their coaching will make THE difference. Cosmi has had some quality OL coaching in his career so far and it hasn’t really made him a great player. I’m not sure I see the change happening in the NFL that needs to happen. He is worth a day 3 pick though and nobody can deny his upside, I just wouldn’t want to overdraft him because of it.

12. D’Ante Smith / East Carolina / 6’5-305

Grade: 75


Summary: Fifth year senior from Augusta, Georgia. Four-year starter that barely played in 2020 because of an undisclosed injury. Honorable Mention All AAC in 2019. Smith is an undersized but overly athletic blocker that shows exceptional foot speed and twitch. He moves at a different level of speed and quickness off the ball and when he maintains his balance and technique, he looks like a pro. The question with him will be where to put him, and when to put him there. He may be best suited for guard in the NFL, as he doesn’t look comfortable in sustained pass protection in space. However, this kind of athlete with this kind of length and natural bend could be a high ceiling player for tackle. Either way, Smith needs to get stronger and play with a more consistent level of balance and control. If that comes in time, he can be a starter at guard or tackle.

*I really want to see Smith get a shot in the next 2 years. I initially saw some Duane Brown, one of my favorite tackles in the game over the past decade, and upon further review I still saw it. He is underdeveloped in pass protection skills and I need to see strength gains. But his foot speed, hand strike, and natural ability to mirror was on display at the Senior Bowl after a 2020 in which we just didn’t see him play much. Really interesting guy to keep an eye on day 3 and I do think NYG will be looking at him.

13. Walker Little / Stanford / 6’7-313

Grade: 74


Summary: Senior entry from Houston, Texas. Three-year starter, but just started just 1 game in the final year because of a season ending knee injury. Honorable Mention All-Pac 12 in 2017, 1st Team in 2018. Little is the grandson and nephew of two former NFL players. He began his career at Stanford winning the Pac 12’s Co-Offensive Freshman of the Year Award. After an impressive sophomore year, Little injured that knee in August 2019 and hasn’t been on the game field since. He opted out of the 2020 season. Little is one of the biggest mysteries in the class. His body and initial techniques look like a prototype. His natural athleticism and heavy hands further enhance the notion he can be an immediate starter. However, he has a lot of poor tape where his balance, power, and sustainability look low-level. The floor is there for Little to be a quality starting tackle, but the questions are way too many to consider him anything close to a sure thing.

*Off the top of my head, I can’t remember a player that essentially go through 3 full years between live game action. He was on an early trajectory of being a sure-thing 1st rounder after 2018, but that early knee injury and opt out left a lot unknown. I am really interested in following what happens here, some still think he is a top 60 pick. Talk about a risk, but one that can certainly work out really well.

14. Alaric Jackson / Iowa / 6’6-321

Grade: 74


Summary: Fifth year senior from Detroit, Michigan. Four-year starter that earned All Big 10 honors three straight years, including 1st Team in 2020. Jackson started at left tackle right off the bat as a redshirt freshman and never looked back. He paired with current Tampa Bay right tackle Tristan Wirfs to create a formidable duo on the outside for a couple seasons. Early on, Jackson was considered the better of the two before Wirfs’ athletic tools took over during his development. Jackson may not be the first rounder and potential All-Pro that Wirfs is currently, but he has something in him. He is a really powerful and physical player that has flashed dominant stretches over his career. His lower body mechanics need to be cleaned up and there may be an issue with his length as an exterior pass blocker, but he should fit into a first-backup role with the potential of being a starter down the road.

*I can remember prior to 2019, I had a note sent to me that the Iowa coaches thought Jackson was going to be a better pro than Tristan Wirfs. I never saw that and certainly don’t see that now, but I still think it is noteworthy when you get notes from a coaching staff that you trust. Jackson is a bully. He hits hard, he finishes plays, and he is consistent with his effort. I see a guy that is just physically limited, though. He may have to make a shift inside or simply be that 7th/8th lineman on a team that can fill in at guard or tackle if injuries pile up. Perhaps he starts out the way David Diehl did and who knows what happens from there.

15. Royce Newman / Mississippi / 6’5-310

Grade: 73


Summary: Fifth year senior from Nashville, Illinois. Two-year starter that spent a season at guard and a season at tackle. Some think Newman doesn’t appear to have the length or foot speed for the outside. He gives up too much pressure on his outside shoulder and struggles to get the long arm position. He is better suited for guard in some schemes where he can use his ability to play low and strong with limited space windows for defenders around him to use. He has a lot of natural knee bend and he shows the ability to stay square with his hands attached. He just needs time to bulk up and add more power and size to his lower body. He projects as a backup at the next level.

*I’ve been back and forth on Newman when it comes to guard or tackle. It will depend on the scheme and situation a bit, but I will keep him here for now. He has the body control for it, but just not sure the speed and length will be enough. He didn’t play enough out there for me to think he can’t do it though. Maybe he just needs more looks out there. Either way, a solid backup type that can likely fill into multiple spots.

16. Tommy Doyle / Miami (OH) / 6’6-320: 73
17. Josh Ball / Marshall / 6’7-308: 71
18. Stone Forsythe / Florida / 6’8-307: 71
19. Brenden Jaimes / Nebraska / 6’5-298: 70
20. Drew Himmelman / Illinois State / 6’9-323: 69
21. Adrian Ealy / Oklahoma / 6’6-321: 69
22. Carson Green / Texas A& M / 6’6-320: 68
23. Brady Christensen / BYU / 6’5-302: 68
24. Jaylon Moore / Western Michigan / 6’4-311: 68
25. Greg Eiland / Mississippi State / 6’8-321: 67
26. Dan Moore / Texas A& M / 6’6-311: 67
27. Larry Borom / Missouri / 6’5-322: 67
28. Cole Van Lenen / Wisconsin / 6’4-305: 66
29. Landon Young / Kentucky / 6’6-310: 66
30. Grant Hermanns / Purdue / 6’7-300: 65

NYG APPROACH


Just to reiterate my stance, NYG needs to move forward in 2021 with Andrew Thomas at left tackle and Matt Peart at right tackle. I can’t imagine Nate Solder beats out Peart on the right side and I would feel good about him being the third tackle that backs up both spots. I say this because no matter who they decide to bring in, those two have the be the tackles. They drafted and developed them for a year, and it would likely do more harm than good to draft a rookie at replace either one of them. Really, there is only one player that even creates a question mark in relation to 2021: Penei Sewell. The odds of him slipping through the cracks and into the laps of NYG is probably less than 20%. However, if it happens, you scoop him up and put him at guard and there isn’t even a debate in my mind. In a more realistic sense, I think this is a year NYG can use their draft resources elsewhere. They used two top 100 picks on the position a year ago and they have a solid veteran backup. I can see them using a pick on one of these tackles that poses as a possible transition-to-guard type that can be had on day 3. If not there, possibly one of their last picks on a day 3 project that can be stashed on a practice squad.
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RE: Overall  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/17/2021 8:26 am : link
In comment 15223884 beatrixkiddo said:
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This is an insanely deep OL class. I hope we get someone on Day 2-3 who can step in and play IOL, there will be lots of talent to pick from for sure.

I see no way Sewell skipping past the Bengals. They are and have been the most OL talent starved team in the NFL for as long as I can remember, the for Burrow and unless they want him retiring before his rookie contract is over they need to protect him. Sewell isn’t getting past them.


I know Burrow is calling for his old college teammate Chase to join him, but that team would be committing malpractice if they don’t draft Sewell. They need to protect Burrow at all cost and let him develop into a franchise QB.
Interesting note  
robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2021 8:37 am : link
Through all defensive players and OL, Sy only has 32 players with either a first (19) or second (13) round grade. We only have TE, WR, RB, and QB left.
SY great stuff  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 8:38 am : link
So aside from Sewell who are the guys that fit best that the Giants could use at OG as a backup to OT?

Looks like at or around 42:

Leatherwood
Eichenberg
Dillon Radunz? (as we may be a ZBS)

Are there others who stick out that you may not have mentioned Giant fit/interest either on day 2 or 3?
Great read.  
mittenedman : 4/17/2021 8:42 am : link
We just need Sewell to slip to #7, which is still a lot to ask. Then I believe the Giants can use their relationship with O'Brien to have a good chance moving up.

I keep seeing people enamored with WRs and ERs. I'm still an OLine guy. If we're trading up, trade up for a dominant OL. I don't care if its a G or T. Just that it's a dominant player.

Let someone else get distracted by WRs (shiny hood ornaments if you already have an engine). Nothing - not even a gamebreaker at WR - would improve this team more than a dominant OL.
RE: Interesting note  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 8:43 am : link
In comment 15223900 robbieballs2003 said:
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Through all defensive players and OL, Sy only has 32 players with either a first (19) or second (13) round grade. We only have TE, WR, RB, and QB left.


And making a ballpark assumption on guys with potential 1st round grades:

TE:1-2
WR: 4-5 (this is the one that might have a few more)
RB: 2
QB: 5

We are looking at around 11-14 more 1st rounders in the remaining group.
RE: RE: Overall  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 8:46 am : link
In comment 15223895 JoeyBigBlue said:
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In comment 15223884 beatrixkiddo said:


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This is an insanely deep OL class. I hope we get someone on Day 2-3 who can step in and play IOL, there will be lots of talent to pick from for sure.

I see no way Sewell skipping past the Bengals. They are and have been the most OL talent starved team in the NFL for as long as I can remember, the for Burrow and unless they want him retiring before his rookie contract is over they need to protect him. Sewell isn’t getting past them.



I know Burrow is calling for his old college teammate Chase to join him, but that team would be committing malpractice if they don’t draft Sewell. They need to protect Burrow at all cost and let him develop into a franchise QB.


Well is Chase (who might be a 90+ himself) and say Leatherwood at 38 a worse combo than let's say Sewell and maybe Terrace Marshall? You may think so but the Bengals may see WR1 + OL round 2 a more favorable and palatable combo.
RE: RE: Interesting note  
robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2021 8:46 am : link
In comment 15223906 Judge_and_Jury said:
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In comment 15223900 robbieballs2003 said:


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Through all defensive players and OL, Sy only has 32 players with either a first (19) or second (13) round grade. We only have TE, WR, RB, and QB left.



And making a ballpark assumption on guys with potential 1st round grades:

TE:1-2
WR: 4-5 (this is the one that might have a few more)
RB: 2
QB: 5

We are looking at around 11-14 more 1st rounders in the remaining group.


Just get that number over 42 so we are guaranteed value at our pick. Lol.

We pick 76th in the third. Right now Sy has an additional 25 players with 3rd round grades. That is 57 players graded with 1st, 2nd, or 3rd round grades.
RE: RE: RE: Overall  
robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2021 8:47 am : link
In comment 15223907 Judge_and_Jury said:
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In comment 15223895 JoeyBigBlue said:


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In comment 15223884 beatrixkiddo said:


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This is an insanely deep OL class. I hope we get someone on Day 2-3 who can step in and play IOL, there will be lots of talent to pick from for sure.

I see no way Sewell skipping past the Bengals. They are and have been the most OL talent starved team in the NFL for as long as I can remember, the for Burrow and unless they want him retiring before his rookie contract is over they need to protect him. Sewell isn’t getting past them.



I know Burrow is calling for his old college teammate Chase to join him, but that team would be committing malpractice if they don’t draft Sewell. They need to protect Burrow at all cost and let him develop into a franchise QB.



Well is Chase (who might be a 90+ himself) and say Leatherwood at 38 a worse combo than let's say Sewell and maybe Terrace Marshall? You may think so but the Bengals may see WR1 + OL round 2 a more favorable and palatable combo.


The thing is they have Boyd and Higgins already who are a great combo.
RE: RE: RE: Overall  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/17/2021 8:55 am : link
In comment 15223907 Judge_and_Jury said:
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In comment 15223895 JoeyBigBlue said:


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In comment 15223884 beatrixkiddo said:


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This is an insanely deep OL class. I hope we get someone on Day 2-3 who can step in and play IOL, there will be lots of talent to pick from for sure.

I see no way Sewell skipping past the Bengals. They are and have been the most OL talent starved team in the NFL for as long as I can remember, the for Burrow and unless they want him retiring before his rookie contract is over they need to protect him. Sewell isn’t getting past them.



I know Burrow is calling for his old college teammate Chase to join him, but that team would be committing malpractice if they don’t draft Sewell. They need to protect Burrow at all cost and let him develop into a franchise QB.



Well is Chase (who might be a 90+ himself) and say Leatherwood at 38 a worse combo than let's say Sewell and maybe Terrace Marshall? You may think so but the Bengals may see WR1 + OL round 2 a more favorable and palatable combo.



You take the Blue chip LT prospect every single time. Without any question. Chase is a nice prospect but he isn’t Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones to be in the 90 range.
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Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 9:13 am : link
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This is an insanely deep OL class. I hope we get someone on Day 2-3 who can step in and play IOL, there will be lots of talent to pick from for sure.

I see no way Sewell skipping past the Bengals. They are and have been the most OL talent starved team in the NFL for as long as I can remember, the for Burrow and unless they want him retiring before his rookie contract is over they need to protect him. Sewell isn’t getting past them.



I know Burrow is calling for his old college teammate Chase to join him, but that team would be committing malpractice if they don’t draft Sewell. They need to protect Burrow at all cost and let him develop into a franchise QB.



Well is Chase (who might be a 90+ himself) and say Leatherwood at 38 a worse combo than let's say Sewell and maybe Terrace Marshall? You may think so but the Bengals may see WR1 + OL round 2 a more favorable and palatable combo.



The thing is they have Boyd and Higgins already who are a great combo.


True but teams are stacking WRs more and more and they have Rieff and Jonah who they may believe are good enough for now if you add someone like Leatherwood to the mix with.
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Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 9:16 am : link
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This is an insanely deep OL class. I hope we get someone on Day 2-3 who can step in and play IOL, there will be lots of talent to pick from for sure.

I see no way Sewell skipping past the Bengals. They are and have been the most OL talent starved team in the NFL for as long as I can remember, the for Burrow and unless they want him retiring before his rookie contract is over they need to protect him. Sewell isn’t getting past them.



I know Burrow is calling for his old college teammate Chase to join him, but that team would be committing malpractice if they don’t draft Sewell. They need to protect Burrow at all cost and let him develop into a franchise QB.



Well is Chase (who might be a 90+ himself) and say Leatherwood at 38 a worse combo than let's say Sewell and maybe Terrace Marshall? You may think so but the Bengals may see WR1 + OL round 2 a more favorable and palatable combo.




You take the Blue chip LT prospect every single time. Without any question. Chase is a nice prospect but he isn’t Calvin Johnson or Julio Jones to be in the 90 range.


Chase is a 90+ player to me. What he did in his sophomore season (don't discount it being only his 2nd year as players usually stud out junior or sneior year) was historic. He is also the only WR in the top of this class to have a pretty good NFL frame. It isn't the freak prototype like JJ or CJ but it is still quite good.
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beatrixkiddo : 4/17/2021 9:17 am : link
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This is an insanely deep OL class. I hope we get someone on Day 2-3 who can step in and play IOL, there will be lots of talent to pick from for sure.

I see no way Sewell skipping past the Bengals. They are and have been the most OL talent starved team in the NFL for as long as I can remember, the for Burrow and unless they want him retiring before his rookie contract is over they need to protect him. Sewell isn’t getting past them.



I know Burrow is calling for his old college teammate Chase to join him, but that team would be committing malpractice if they don’t draft Sewell. They need to protect Burrow at all cost and let him develop into a franchise QB.



Well is Chase (who might be a 90+ himself) and say Leatherwood at 38 a worse combo than let's say Sewell and maybe Terrace Marshall? You may think so but the Bengals may see WR1 + OL round 2 a more favorable and palatable combo.



The thing is they have Boyd and Higgins already who are a great combo.



True but teams are stacking WRs more and more and they have Rieff and Jonah who they may believe are good enough for now if you add someone like Leatherwood to the mix with.


If they are going to continue relying on Jonah Williams as the answer at LT, they will be picking in the same spot again next year. He has been injured more than he has been healthy, if he proves he can stay on the field great slide him into the LG spot and now you have a much improved OL, helps Burrow and Helps Mixon.
RE: Great read.  
Brown_Hornet : 4/17/2021 9:17 am : link
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We just need Sewell to slip to #7, which is still a lot to ask. Then I believe the Giants can use their relationship with O'Brien to have a good chance moving up.

I keep seeing people enamored with WRs and ERs. I'm still an OLine guy. If we're trading up, trade up for a dominant OL. I don't care if its a G or T. Just that it's a dominant player.

Let someone else get distracted by WRs (shiny hood ornaments if you already have an engine). Nothing - not even a gamebreaker at WR - would improve this team more than a dominant OL.

Too much.
There’s no need to move up in a draft to grab a prospect or position that is not a position of need...
... unless the Giants simply don’t believe there will be a quality player available to them.

The Giants can handle the interior office of line problem in the second or third round.

I agree with Sy, The Giants appear to be set at 0T.
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Victor in CT : 4/17/2021 9:25 am : link
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Draft a blue chip LT prospect and put him at guard. If he’s a as good as that 91 grade, you throw him at one of the tackle spots and let Peart work his on the guard spot.



I think Peart is too big to play G imo.


there is precedent. William Roberts had what seemed to be a classic OT build (at the time) but was floundering. He flourished at LG.
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robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2021 9:32 am : link
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Draft a blue chip LT prospect and put him at guard. If he’s a as good as that 91 grade, you throw him at one of the tackle spots and let Peart work his on the guard spot.



I think Peart is too big to play G imo.



there is precedent. William Roberts had what seemed to be a classic OT build (at the time) but was floundering. He flourished at LG.


He wasn't 6'7".
RE: Great read Sy. Thx so much  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/17/2021 9:46 am : link
In comment 15223856 Earl the goat said:
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I disagree with your summary approach
If Slater is there then you gobble him up
This go would complete the OLine. Gives them depth and versatility
WR can be had in second round
Slater is a Quinn Nelson /Zach Martin type you don’t pass over

And last. Good pluck on Spencer Brown. Real dark horse sleeper there


Slater was rated as a guard by Sy. It sounds like you didn't read his NYG take on our guard situation.
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ryanmkeane : 4/17/2021 9:46 am : link
Would be incredibly shocked to have Sewell get past all of Cincy, Miami, Detroit, Carolina, hell even Denver. You could argue every single one of these teams would/should take him. Would be a legit miracle if he was sitting there at 11
It makes me happy to see these guys who can play multiple positions  
Jim in Forest Hills : 4/17/2021 10:14 am : link
Leatherwood in rd 2? Can play LG or RT? Love it.

Slater and AVT in rd can play both? Love it.

I hope one of these types is taken, to hedge the risk of Hernandez/Lemieux/Peart in one pick is tremendous value.

PLUS Hernandez is a FA next year.
Leatherwood  
jvm52106 : 4/17/2021 10:53 am : link
us definitely a target of mine. He could play Guard right off and move to tackle later if needed.

If we can manage a trade down (assuming Smith and Waddle not there or Smith and Pitts not there at 11), gather an additional 2nd or 3rd (depends on the trade down partner(s) ) we could get an Edge in Rd 1 and totally fix the Ol for years in Rd2 and 3.

The real issue or the big mystery is how are teams (all 32) evaluating players who opt'd out and how will that change or alter the projected first rounders.

I truly believe there will be more surprises this year than in any recent draft as far as the first round goes.

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jvm52106 : 4/17/2021 10:55 am : link
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Draft a blue chip LT prospect and put him at guard. If he’s a as good as that 91 grade, you throw him at one of the tackle spots and let Peart work his on the guard spot.



I think Peart is too big to play G imo.



there is precedent. William Roberts had what seemed to be a classic OT build (at the time) but was floundering. He flourished at LG.


Eric Moore is another guy drafted as a Tackle but played mostly at guard in his career with the Gmen.

Conversely, Jumbo Elliott was considered at best a RT and after struggling there became a force at LT.
To me  
YANKEE28 : 4/17/2021 11:07 am : link
the most interesting name on Sy's list is Josh Ball.

Ball was highly recruited in high school before chosing Florida State. Unfortunately, Ball was involved in an incident of dating violence his freshman season. Though no formal charges were filed, Ball lost his football scholarship and his time at Florida State was done.

Ball was able to continue football the following year, but at Butler Community College (like Giants RB Brandon Jacobs and many others have had college football stops). Ball had an impressive 2018 sophomore campaign at Butler, but his goal was to get back to a more major college program.

It was then that Ball met with the Recruiting Coordinator at Marshall, Mike Treier (current Giants coach). Treier and the Marshall staff certainly reviewed what had happened when Ball was age 18 at Florida State. They concluded that he would be given a chance at Marshall.

Ball proved he was well worth a 2nd chance at a major program. He rotated in at both tackle positions in his first year, before becoming a full time starter in 2020.

The incident when Ball was 18 will not go away, but he has had no issues since. The incident will clearly effect Ball's draft position. Fortunately the Giants have incredible intel on Ball from Coach Treier.

At his Pro Day Ball measured 6′ 7 3/8″ and 308 pounds with 35-inch arms. He completed 28 reps on the bench, went 27.5 inches in the vertical jump, and 8’10” in the broad jump. His forty was timed at 5.19 seconds, while his short shuttle was 4.67 seconds. Adam Stenavach, the O line coach for the Green Bay Packers, ran the position drills at the Marshall Pro Day. Reports indicated that Ball was extremely athletic, smooth, and showed great balance.

The Giants don't currently have a 5th round pick, but should Ball last until the first Giants pick in Round 6 (pick 196), he would be an incredible selection. I am a George Young Planet Theory guy, and the thought of getting someone with this size and skillset on Day Three would be outstanding. With Mike Treier as a current Giants coach and former Marshall recruiting coordinator, the Giants have the necessary intel to make the right decision.
RE: Leatherwood  
cosmicj : 4/17/2021 11:17 am : link
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I truly believe there will be more surprises this year than in any recent draft as far as the first round goes.

Agreed. The rumors swirling around Mac Jones (rising), Sewell (falling) and Waddle (????) are all adding to the confusion. I bet the teams are confused, too. The insiders are just not going to drop hints on Zoom and phone calls like in ordinary interactions.
Yankee28  
cosmicj : 4/17/2021 11:18 am : link
Great stuff there. Thanks.
I wouldn’t be upset at all  
Jay on the Island : 4/17/2021 11:23 am : link
If the Giants used both 6th round picks on OL. Alaric Jackson and Ball or Robert Jones are good options if on the board.
RE: Yankee28  
Spider56 : 4/17/2021 11:25 am : link
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Great stuff there. Thanks.


+1. Depending on who they draft, maybe Hernandez can be dealt for a 4th or a 5th.
Feeling confirmed about the OL after this  
90.Cal : 4/17/2021 11:55 am : link
I viewed Slater as potentially the next Zack Martin and I viewed Penei Sewell as the next Quenton Nelson... didnt see that anywhere else but Sy sorts sees it the same, pretty cool.
Thanks Sy, great stuff, as always.  
Section331 : 4/17/2021 12:07 pm : link
The only OL I would take at 11 is Sewell if he somehow dropped. I’d definitely target Leatherwood in rd 2 though. Really, how much daylight is there between Leatherwood and Slater? Slater is the better player, but is he that much better?

I’d rather target another playmaker at 11.
Too many teams need OL help  
robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2021 12:08 pm : link
I doubt Leatherwood makes it to 42. The Chiefs and Jags could take him in the first.
what are your thoughts on jenkins as a convert to G?  
GiantsFan84 : 4/17/2021 12:17 pm : link
thanks
Thanks, Sy!  
TC : 4/17/2021 12:33 pm : link
Great job!
I've been trying to answer this question with no success  
M.S. : 4/17/2021 12:37 pm : link

Who makes the Giants a better team in the "long run" (however you define long run): A wide receiver like Jaylen Waddle (or DeVonta Smith); or, an offensive lineman like Rashawn Slater (or Alijah Vera-Tucker)?

RE: To me  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/17/2021 12:50 pm : link
In comment 15224001 YANKEE28 said:
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the most interesting name on Sy's list is Josh Ball.

Ball was highly recruited in high school before chosing Florida State. Unfortunately, Ball was involved in an incident of dating violence his freshman season. Though no formal charges were filed, Ball lost his football scholarship and his time at Florida State was done.

Ball was able to continue football the following year, but at Butler Community College (like Giants RB Brandon Jacobs and many others have had college football stops). Ball had an impressive 2018 sophomore campaign at Butler, but his goal was to get back to a more major college program.

necessary intel to make the right decision.


Never seen the guy play, but certainly isn't a good sign that FSU dropped him during a time when they had one of the worst OL's in college football. Especially considering chargers were never filed. Unless it was so heinous they paid it to go away and cut him, and then would you really want a guy like that on the team?
Spencer Brown is a guy I've wanted to like  
90.Cal : 4/17/2021 12:52 pm : link
Based on his size alone... but after watching him I didn't come away impressed at all. Suprised by your grade but appreciate your insight.

Sy'56 any word on that ginormous tackle out of Australia that was playing at Minnesota i think his name is Daniel Faalee or something like that, he opted out I believe... random... But I don't know if he even declared for the draft but I do think he's eligible... thanks.
His name is  
90.Cal : 4/17/2021 12:53 pm : link
Daniel Faalele. He's a 6"9 & 400lb dude playing tackle.
RE: To me  
The Mike : 4/17/2021 2:10 pm : link
In comment 15224001 YANKEE28 said:
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the most interesting name on Sy's list is Josh Ball.

Ball was highly recruited in high school before chosing Florida State. Unfortunately, Ball was involved in an incident of dating violence his freshman season. Though no formal charges were filed, Ball lost his football scholarship and his time at Florida State was done.

Ball was able to continue football the following year, but at Butler Community College (like Giants RB Brandon Jacobs and many others have had college football stops). Ball had an impressive 2018 sophomore campaign at Butler, but his goal was to get back to a more major college program.

It was then that Ball met with the Recruiting Coordinator at Marshall, Mike Treier (current Giants coach). Treier and the Marshall staff certainly reviewed what had happened when Ball was age 18 at Florida State. They concluded that he would be given a chance at Marshall.

Ball proved he was well worth a 2nd chance at a major program. He rotated in at both tackle positions in his first year, before becoming a full time starter in 2020.

The incident when Ball was 18 will not go away, but he has had no issues since. The incident will clearly effect Ball's draft position. Fortunately the Giants have incredible intel on Ball from Coach Treier.

At his Pro Day Ball measured 6′ 7 3/8″ and 308 pounds with 35-inch arms. He completed 28 reps on the bench, went 27.5 inches in the vertical jump, and 8’10” in the broad jump. His forty was timed at 5.19 seconds, while his short shuttle was 4.67 seconds. Adam Stenavach, the O line coach for the Green Bay Packers, ran the position drills at the Marshall Pro Day. Reports indicated that Ball was extremely athletic, smooth, and showed great balance.

The Giants don't currently have a 5th round pick, but should Ball last until the first Giants pick in Round 6 (pick 196), he would be an incredible selection. I am a George Young Planet Theory guy, and the thought of getting someone with this size and skillset on Day Three would be outstanding. With Mike Treier as a current Giants coach and former Marshall recruiting coordinator, the Giants have the necessary intel to make the right decision.


Great Post! One of the main reasons I am on this site. Thanks!
Trading up for Penei Sewell  
geelabee : 4/17/2021 2:31 pm : link
If the Giants have this guy rated as high as Sy..91 All Pro can’t miss territory...Anthony Munoz ..Jonathan Ogden class OT..sounds like if that’s the case they should do whatever it takes to trade with the Falcons at 4 to jump in front of the Bengals at 5...Sewell’s projected spot..assume the Giants have Sewell rated same 91...it would cost a 2021 #2 & #6...the Giants have not hat this type of dominate lineman since Rosie Brown in the 50’s...what is this board’s opinion of this type of move ??
had not hat  
geelabee : 4/17/2021 2:32 pm : link
tough to type on small iPhone screen
For those that argue keep all the picks...  
geelabee : 4/17/2021 2:39 pm : link
Andrew Thomas last year’s #4 pick was rated 83...you keep all your picks you end up with 2-3 average to good players...that’s my concern with keeping all the picks...you end up with the type of lineman the Giants have drafted over the last 15 years vs a Jonathan Ogden or Anthony Munoz..I hope Gettleman explores this if he has similar rating as Sy!!
With the proposed trade up  
geelabee : 4/17/2021 2:44 pm : link
You slide Thomas to LG and end up with a pro bowler there as well...then let Hernandez & Lemieux battle for the right guard spot...and you can take a G in the 3rd or lower for depth...line problems solved for the next 5 years!!
RE: Trading up for Penei Sewell  
robbieballs2003 : 4/17/2021 2:45 pm : link
In comment 15224091 geelabee said:
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If the Giants have this guy rated as high as Sy..91 All Pro can’t miss territory...Anthony Munoz ..Jonathan Ogden class OT..sounds like if that’s the case they should do whatever it takes to trade with the Falcons at 4 to jump in front of the Bengals at 5...Sewell’s projected spot..assume the Giants have Sewell rated same 91...it would cost a 2021 #2 & #6...the Giants have not hat this type of dominate lineman since Rosie Brown in the 50’s...what is this board’s opinion of this type of move ??


I disagree that you trade up for him. We have multiple areas where we still need help. One stud on the OL doesn't change much. We have 2 holes at guard right now imo that need to be filled long term. Unless Thomas is moving to G this is a bad allocation of resources. And your trade value is way off.

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Filed to ESPN: Dolphins trading No. 3 overall pick to the San Francisco 49ers for the No. 12 pick, a 2021 third-round pick (SF’s comp pick for Robert Saleh hiring) and first-round picks in 2022 and 2023, per sources.


So instead of 3 and 12 we are talking 4 and 11. A second and sixth aren't getting that done. No way.

Also, look at the Jets trade with Indy to get Darnold. The Jets gave up more than you are suggesting and they only moved up from like 6 to 3. And before you say those trades are for QBs, it is irrelevant. There will be QBs available hence the offers for Atlanta at 4 will most likely be on par with the recent trades. Atlanta does not care who we are trading up for. All that matters is that a top QB will still be available.
I'd play Sewell at LG. He'd be a Quenton Nelson type IMO.  
90.Cal : 4/17/2021 3:33 pm : link
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Sy'56 if your reasoning for putting Slater with the IOL is that
90.Cal : 4/14/2021 5:21 pm : link : reply
"Slater's ceiling is highest playing Guard"... then did you not give any thought about grading Sewell as a Guard? I just personally think Sewell's tools/skillset could be similar to a Quenton Nelson if he played LG. I wonder if you've ever heard anyone say anything similar to that or if you've had any of your own thoughts about Sewell playing Guard in the NFL. Thanks.


3 players in this draft that I think the Giants "need" badly... to the point I'd try to give up a little something extra to get up 2-4 spots to take... Sewell, Slater and Smith.
My comps for them are  
90.Cal : 4/17/2021 3:35 pm : link
Quenton Nelson, Zack Martin and Marvin Harrison. Give me one of those to grow with Barkley, Jones and Thomas for the next decade.
RE: Trading up for Penei Sewell  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 5:42 pm : link
In comment 15224091 geelabee said:
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If the Giants have this guy rated as high as Sy..91 All Pro can’t miss territory...Anthony Munoz ..Jonathan Ogden class OT..sounds like if that’s the case they should do whatever it takes to trade with the Falcons at 4 to jump in front of the Bengals at 5...Sewell’s projected spot..assume the Giants have Sewell rated same 91...it would cost a 2021 #2 & #6...the Giants have not hat this type of dominate lineman since Rosie Brown in the 50’s...what is this board’s opinion of this type of move ??


If he makes it to 7, Detroit might play ball with us. But it won't be cheap. But for Sewell I would do it. The effect it could have for both Barkley, DJ and the passing offense would be beautiful.
RE: I don’t think you  
bw in dc : 4/17/2021 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15223862 JoeyBigBlue said:
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Draft a blue chip LT prospect and put him at guard. If he’s a as good as that 91 grade, you throw him at one of the tackle spots and let Peart work his on the guard spot.


I agree. Then move Thomas to RT, use Sewell at LT, and find another G solution.

Giving Jones more time and keeping him more upright is more important than worrying about Barkley in the running game.
Jon Odgen  
McNally's_Nuts : 4/17/2021 7:45 pm : link
Started out at left guard.

Why couldn’t Sewell?o
He wants to put Sewell at guard originally because we don't need  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/17/2021 9:06 pm : link
the NFL learning curve at rookie tackle right now and there is a good chance Peart is just a swing tackle/backend starter type. I have hopes he develops on more based on everything we know about his background, but those are just hopes at this point. That puts us in good position as well moving forward with the tackle group. And if both of the guys can really play, they'd fetch as much as you can possibly get in a non QB trade.
It's the weirdest thing  
Bill L : 4/19/2021 1:45 pm : link
I've done the pfn sim tens of times now just to play around and in every single draft so far, Kayode Awosika comes up as the bpa for one of our 6th round picks.

I never heard of the guy, but you might as well buy his jersey now.
fwiw, those sims are pretty useless  
Bill L : 4/19/2021 2:31 pm : link
about 80% of the time I've done them, Pitts is available at #11. Yeah, sign me up for that.

But, it ain't gonna happen.
RE: fwiw, those sims are pretty useless  
Angel Eyes : 4/19/2021 2:46 pm : link
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about 80% of the time I've done them, Pitts is available at #11. Yeah, sign me up for that.

But, it ain't gonna happen.

I’ve been running ones on PFF and Waddle, Pitts, Sewell, and Smith are off the board by then. I’ve been alternating between Slater and Parsons.
RE: It's the weirdest thing  
Bill L : 4/19/2021 7:00 pm : link
In comment 15225949 Bill L said:
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I've done the pfn sim tens of times now just to play around and in every single draft so far, Kayode Awosika comes up as the bpa for one of our 6th round picks.

I never heard of the guy, but you might as well buy his jersey now.

Lol, PFN just put up a 7 round mock and for the first 6 th round pick for the Giants they picked... Kayode Awosika. You guys better put some money down that he’s our pick.
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