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Assuming no OL@11, who are Sy's top options rd. 2-4 for NYG

Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 10:44 am
Based on Sy's grades who are guys that are likely to be in play at 42 that have OG versatility:

Round 2:
Leatherwood
Radunz
Eichenberg
Dickerson
Wyatt Davis
Humphrey (maybe OC only)
Spencer Brown? (OG versatile?)


Round 3/4:
D'Ante Smith
Aaron Brooks (maybe not a fit for new regime)
Trey Smith
Alaric Jackson
Quinn Meinerz
Robert Jones


Am I missing anyone?
Read his Guard/Center article  
JoeyBigBlue : 4/17/2021 10:55 am : link
NYG APPROACH

As I wrote a few times in this preview, I am very curious to see how NYG approaches this interior offensive line class. Gettleman loves the big maulers with heavy hands and to a fault, will overlook movement issues at the position. Jason Garrett has always wanted his guard to seamlessly pull laterally seamlessly with good body control and coordination. I think it is pretty clear this group needs to add a rookie inside. Will it be a mauler? There are plenty in this class. Or will it be more of an athlete? The supply there is a little less. Another question will be how they address Nick Gates and his versatility. This is an unusually strong OC class. Perhaps the value could be there and NYG could move Gates to one of the guard spots? A lot to think about with this trio and whatever they end up doing, they need to at least hit a double. No more strikeouts on the offensive line in the draft. I can see them using the #11 pick on a lineman and if Penei Sewell falls, things can get really interesting. I can see Slater and Vera-Tucker being in the discussion as well. What do I think will happen? I see a day two pick being used on a guard like Quinn Meinerz or Wyatt Davis. If the value isn’t there or they’re off the board, I think it will be an early day 3 pick like Josh Myers, Robert Jones, or Trey Hill.
RE: Read his Guard/Center article  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 10:59 am : link
In comment 15223987 JoeyBigBlue said:
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NYG APPROACH

As I wrote a few times in this preview, I am very curious to see how NYG approaches this interior offensive line class. Gettleman loves the big maulers with heavy hands and to a fault, will overlook movement issues at the position. Jason Garrett has always wanted his guard to seamlessly pull laterally seamlessly with good body control and coordination. I think it is pretty clear this group needs to add a rookie inside. Will it be a mauler? There are plenty in this class. Or will it be more of an athlete? The supply there is a little less. Another question will be how they address Nick Gates and his versatility. This is an unusually strong OC class. Perhaps the value could be there and NYG could move Gates to one of the guard spots? A lot to think about with this trio and whatever they end up doing, they need to at least hit a double. No more strikeouts on the offensive line in the draft. I can see them using the #11 pick on a lineman and if Penei Sewell falls, things can get really interesting. I can see Slater and Vera-Tucker being in the discussion as well. What do I think will happen? I see a day two pick being used on a guard like Quinn Meinerz or Wyatt Davis. If the value isn’t there or they’re off the board, I think it will be an early day 3 pick like Josh Myers, Robert Jones, or Trey Hill.


Good catch...need to add Meyers/Hill



Round 2:
Leatherwood
Radunz
Eichenberg
Dickerson
Wyatt Davis
Humphrey (maybe OC only)
Spencer Brown? (OG versatile?)


Round 3/4:
D'Ante Smith
Aaron Brooks (maybe not a fit for new regime)
Trey Smith
Alaric Jackson
Quinn Meinerz
Robert Jones
Josh Meyers
Trey Hill
RE: Read his Guard/Center article  
Earl the goat : 4/17/2021 11:00 am : link
In comment 15223987 JoeyBigBlue said:
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NYG APPROACH

As I wrote a few times in this preview, I am very curious to see how NYG approaches this interior offensive line class. Gettleman loves the big maulers with heavy hands and to a fault, will overlook movement issues at the position. Jason Garrett has always wanted his guard to seamlessly pull laterally seamlessly with good body control and coordination. I think it is pretty clear this group needs to add a rookie inside. Will it be a mauler? There are plenty in this class. Or will it be more of an athlete? The supply there is a little less. Another question will be how they address Nick Gates and his versatility. This is an unusually strong OC class. Perhaps the value could be there and NYG could move Gates to one of the guard spots? A lot to think about with this trio and whatever they end up doing, they need to at least hit a double. No more strikeouts on the offensive line in the draft. I can see them using the #11 pick on a lineman and if Penei Sewell falls, things can get really interesting. I can see Slater and Vera-Tucker being in the discussion as well. What do I think will happen? I see a day two pick being used on a guard like Quinn Meinerz or Wyatt Davis. If the value isn’t there or they’re off the board, I think it will be an early day 3 pick like Josh Myers, Robert Jones, or Trey Hill.



Add day 3 pick Aaron Banks for consideration
I think NYG will add an IOL on day 2  
Rjanyg : 4/17/2021 11:01 am : link
I like either Davis or Humphrey in round 2 or Smith, Myers or Cleveland in round 3.

The first round pick will be either a WR, LB or Edge.
The round 2 options are excellent  
BillT : 4/17/2021 11:08 am : link
Don’t know which the Giants favor but there are a number of quality IOL players that are going to be available in round 2. No need to.pass on a top skill position player at 11 when this kind of talent is going to be available.
If the Giants really want an OL above all else (a big IF),  
Big Blue '56 : 4/17/2021 11:13 am : link
then it makes sense at 11, given that gives them the option of a 5th year
That Bama connection and his long term success  
cosmicj : 4/17/2021 11:13 am : link
On the field sure make Leatherwood the natural pick. In a COVID- muddled draft class, he would just be such a safe sensible pick.
Leatherwood stands out, based on multiple factors.  
Big Blue Blogger : 4/17/2021 11:22 am : link
Sy’s write up, need, versatility, Bama link, likely draft slot.

Sy obviously likes Spencer Brown a lot, but Brown doesn’t appear to have the level of positional versatility needed if you accept Sy’s premise that the top 3 OT jobs are set for this year. His review seemed to point more toward somebody like Alaric Jackson.
RE: Leatherwood stands out, based on multiple factors.  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 11:30 am : link
In comment 15224011 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Sy’s write up, need, versatility, Bama link, likely draft slot.

Sy obviously likes Spencer Brown a lot, but Brown doesn’t appear to have the level of positional versatility needed if you accept Sy’s premise that the top 3 OT jobs are set for this year. His review seemed to point more toward somebody like Alaric Jackson.


Agreed.
Yet if he drops a bit who knows. Leatherwood does standout but he may not make 42. I think there maybe a run on OL 33-41
Ben Cleveland  
JonC : 4/17/2021 11:38 am : link
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From Sy's report  
JonC : 4/17/2021 11:42 am : link
It's a strong OT crop, they could pick one up a prospect that can also play OG, create some legit depth and competition.
I think Leatherwood is off the board Round 2  
Ben in Tampa : 4/17/2021 11:44 am : link
By the Bengals. They’ll try him at tackle.

I‘be got my eye on Trey Smith or Ben Cleveland in round 3
No to Wyatt Davis  
Rick in Dallas : 4/17/2021 11:45 am : link
Both Sy and Brugler comment that Davis is on the ground too often.Bobby Skinner says he has the worst feet of the OG group.
Feel Rd 3 is the sweet spot  
beatrixkiddo : 4/17/2021 12:54 pm : link
For an IOL.

First 2 rounds I think WR, LB/Edge make the most sense for likely value and talent at our slot. Although the way the Giants addresses FA they are really open to truly go BPA; even though they do still desperately need Edge rushers.

I have hope that both Lemieux and Peart take the next step and prove themselves capable starters. I think they are looking more so inline to get a replacement for Hernandez after this year, I just don’t think he is a fit for this offense and while an ok player just think he hasn’t played up to his draft status even despite the carousel of players and coaches he has had to play with so far.

I hope they get one or two guys end of day 2 and 3 to develop as backups/replacements for the next year when we are likely parting ways with Hernandez and Solder. I’d rather see them emphasis drafting Edge and LBers though and truly bring this defense into a dominant unit. They need to draft a RB as well, really hoping someone like Trey Sermon falls to them with their limited draft picks. So my positions of target would be 2 edge, 2 OL and two skill players with our 6 picks. Use UDFA to bring in some young DT depth, secondary depth, and more RB competition.
RE: Feel Rd 3 is the sweet spot  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/17/2021 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15224051 beatrixkiddo said:
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For an IOL.


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Well said. I think Hernandez might be one of those guys that becomes a steal second contract guy for someone, but he's clearly not a fit for what this offense or what Judge wants to do. Of course we'll have people pissing and moaning about not using the player right or whatever. But you can't build around the strengths of weaknesses of 5 different lineman. You draft guys here that fit the scheme.
RE: No to Wyatt Davis  
Jimmy Googs : 4/17/2021 1:34 pm : link
In comment 15224021 Rick in Dallas said:
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Both Sy and Brugler comment that Davis is on the ground too often.Bobby Skinner says he has the worst feet of the OG group.
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Yeah, these reviews on Davis are damning.

I am heading to UGA next weekend. Will get some feedback on how active Giants have been with prospects here since pro day...
Why is this posted? Everyone on BBI can read Sy’56 analysis. What does  
Ivan15 : 4/17/2021 4:35 pm : link
Judge & Jury add, other than repeating the entire summary?
RE: I think Leatherwood is off the board Round 2  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 4:35 pm : link
In comment 15224020 Ben in Tampa said:
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By the Bengals. They’ll try him at tackle.

I‘be got my eye on Trey Smith or Ben Cleveland in round 3


Depends on if they go Sewell rd 1. If not almost assuredly they'll go OL at 38
RE: Leatherwood stands out, based on multiple factors.  
Judge_and_Jury : 4/17/2021 4:38 pm : link
In comment 15224011 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Sy’s write up, need, versatility, Bama link, likely draft slot.

Sy obviously likes Spencer Brown a lot, but Brown doesn’t appear to have the level of positional versatility needed if you accept Sy’s premise that the top 3 OT jobs are set for this year. His review seemed to point more toward somebody like Alaric Jackson.


Leatherwood stands out to me so does Radunz and Eichenberg as an OG fit with OT versatility.
RE: RE: I think Leatherwood is off the board Round 2  
FStubbs : 4/17/2021 10:16 pm : link
In comment 15224202 Judge_and_Jury said:
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In comment 15224020 Ben in Tampa said:


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By the Bengals. They’ll try him at tackle.

I‘be got my eye on Trey Smith or Ben Cleveland in round 3



Depends on if they go Sewell rd 1. If not almost assuredly they'll go OL at 38


I think if Sewell is there at #5 they run to the podium.
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