to get a 1C it will be Kaako. Kaako, one of the defensemen who’s not on the roster yet, and a first to start with?
And Zibanejad is our 1C and Strome is producing like a 1C. I agree that we need a top-6 C, but it's not a huge need. Plus, if they want, they can try to convert Krav, Kakko or Laf to C.
Who else is it gonna be? Laffy, Miller, and Kravtsov are probably untouchable. Maybe I’m projecting, but I’d think that they would hate to trade Lundkvist sight unseen.
I think they’re definitely going to try to acquire a big name
Who else is it gonna be? Laffy, Miller, and Kravtsov are probably untouchable. Maybe I’m projecting, but I’d think that they would hate to trade Lundkvist sight unseen.
Why do they have to trade anyone? This Eichel shit needs to stop. If you're going to pay 10M per to him, then you'll either need to say goodbye to Kreider or Trouba in a trade (they both have NMC, FYI), or to Zibanejad, because Zibanejad is going to command at least 8M per in a year. They can't fit Panarin, Trouba, Kreider, Eichel and Zibanejad under the salary cap....and they also have guys coming off their ELCs in the future like Igor, Chytil, Kakko and Fox (who is a top defenseman and will be paid as such).
If anything, they should trade Strome or Buchnevich in the offseason in a Brassard/Zibanejad-esque deal, where they get a young, promising, cost-controlled C.
I know I may seem like an asshole for this, but I do have a couple of
complaints. And no, I'm not ungrateful. I'm happy we won and that we're a hot team right now, but there are some decisions that are bothering me.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
However, they’re going to expect BIG things beginning next year. I doubt that involves rolling Strome or a converted winger out as 2C again.
Like I said, the logical move would be trading Strome and/or Buchnevich for a young, cost-controlled C with potential. Peyton Krebs, Sam Steel, and one of the Kings' C prospects come to mind.
divisions for a minute to have a +31 goal differential and miss the playoffs would probably be historic and that's what the Rangers have today (probably top 5 in the entire NHL). The way they're playing it could even be a +45 goal differential by end of the season.
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
Why do I always see trade talk on these Rangers threads.
I think this team is definitely a playoff contender next year.
What other young players do we have stashed in the minors that may be ready next year Anakim?
Why do I always see trade talk on these Rangers threads.
I think this team is definitely a playoff contender next year.
What other young players do we have stashed in the minors that may be ready next year Anakim?
Nils Lundkvist
Tarmo Reunanen
Zac Jones
Matthew Robertson
divisions for a minute to have a +31 goal differential and miss the playoffs would probably be historic and that's what the Rangers have today (probably top 5 in the entire NHL). The way they're playing it could even be a +45 goal differential by end of the season.
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
This Ranger team is a legit playoff team. Yes, they are beating up on a bad team, but as yo stated the GD is just astronomical to not make the playoffs. I actually think the team the Rangers can clip to make the playoffs is the Isles, they have a few games against them and the Isles have three in a row against the Caps. I think all roads are very uphill for the Rangers to make it, but if they did, I think the team they would pass would not be Boston, but the Isles.
RE: RE: It's a pity they got off to such a slow start
divisions for a minute to have a +31 goal differential and miss the playoffs would probably be historic and that's what the Rangers have today (probably top 5 in the entire NHL). The way they're playing it could even be a +45 goal differential by end of the season.
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
This Ranger team is a legit playoff team. Yes, they are beating up on a bad team, but as yo stated the GD is just astronomical to not make the playoffs. I actually think the team the Rangers can clip to make the playoffs is the Isles, they have a few games against them and the Isles have three in a row against the Caps. I think all roads are very uphill for the Rangers to make it, but if they did, I think the team they would pass would not be Boston, but the Isles.
The Rangers actually have the best goal difference in the division and are 5th. If they somehow made the playoffs...
divisions for a minute to have a +31 goal differential and miss the playoffs would probably be historic and that's what the Rangers have today (probably top 5 in the entire NHL). The way they're playing it could even be a +45 goal differential by end of the season.
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
This Ranger team is a legit playoff team. Yes, they are beating up on a bad team, but as yo stated the GD is just astronomical to not make the playoffs. I actually think the team the Rangers can clip to make the playoffs is the Isles, they have a few games against them and the Isles have three in a row against the Caps. I think all roads are very uphill for the Rangers to make it, but if they did, I think the team they would pass would not be Boston, but the Isles.
I predicted the playoffs or close for this team before the season (you can't have a team with Panarin, Zibanejad, Trouba, a legit goalie and not expect to compete a little - this is not Ottawa), and two weeks ago I still said I think the Rangers make it. It's an uphill battle but they can sneak in.
expendable. Very different players, but the team could use some UMass/North American toughness. He needs to put on weight and improve his puck moving prowess. JD and Gorton need to play the long game here figuring out how all these pieces they have fit together. I'd hate including Lundqvist in a trade, good, developing defensive player and a cannon from the left point. Buch is a player on the rise, in all ways, two-way, dangerous in attacking zone, valuable on STs, team guy, loves being here. If you move him, you better receive full value and team might still regret it.
Can't ignore Strome's productivity or his chemistry with Panarin, tough call.
Kreider looks lost.
RE: I know I may seem like an asshole for this, but I do have a couple of
complaints. And no, I'm not ungrateful. I'm happy we won and that we're a hot team right now, but there are some decisions that are bothering me.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
Are we going to through this after every game? What part of Laf isn't ready to play big minutes is confusing?
He's played just 44 career NHL games at the age of 19. This isn't the NFL where one can get by on talent alone. Everyone on the ice is just as big and talented as he is. And they have years of NHL level coaching under their belt.
He's playing undecisively. He isn't shooting the puck (which was a knock on him) and he isn't creating for his teamtes (this was a strength of his). He isn't playing the body and his breakout passes are sloppy. If you aren't seeing thistles, I don't know what to tell you. At this level, a single bad cross-ice pass turns into a goal the other way. So he isn't put into high-pressure situations.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
Your favorite thing to do seems to be shitting on guys like Howden. Fine. They're not stars. But who should Laf be taking minutes away from on the PP? Tell us.
Should Buchnevich ride the bench just because Laf was drafted first overall? Kreider? Strome? Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way.
complaints. And no, I'm not ungrateful. I'm happy we won and that we're a hot team right now, but there are some decisions that are bothering me.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
Are we going to through this after every game? What part of Laf isn't ready to play big minutes is confusing?
He's played just 44 career NHL games at the age of 19. This isn't the NFL where one can get by on talent alone. Everyone on the ice is just as big and talented as he is. And they have years of NHL level coaching under their belt.
He's playing undecisively. He isn't shooting the puck (which was a knock on him) and he isn't creating for his teamtes (this was a strength of his). He isn't playing the body and his breakout passes are sloppy. If you aren't seeing thistles, I don't know what to tell you. At this level, a single bad cross-ice pass turns into a goal the other way. So he isn't put into high-pressure situations.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
Your favorite thing to do seems to be shitting on guys like Howden. Fine. They're not stars. But who should Laf be taking minutes away from on the PP? Tell us.
Should Buchnevich ride the bench just because Laf was drafted first overall? Kreider? Strome? Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way.
According to who? You? You decide if he's ready or not? How the hell would you know given the fact that he receives such little ice time. And BTW, how else do you expect him to develop? He needs to be put out there and be baptized by fire. He's not going to learn much sitting on the pine. You're talking out of your ass, dude. You don't know what Laf is capable of. If you expect him to light it up every time he touches the ice, then you're expecting too much. Same situation with Gauthier. If he makes one bad play or if he doesn't produce, Quinn will bench him for the rest of the game. That's not how you develop players. No one on the kids line is getting enough ice time.
PP - Blackwell, K'Andre or Trouba...
Kreider should ride the bench because he's been awful the last few games. As I said, Quinn's reluctance to break up the KZB line is confusing, because Kreider has been struggling lately. Laf had a short run with Zibanejad and Buchnevich a few weeks ago and seemed to do very well. I'm not sure why Quinn is so hellbent on juggling every line BUT the KZB line.
And this is just pulling something out of your ass:
"Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way."
BTW, who the fuck are you? What was your previous username?
Yet there's always someone who needs trades or more ice time for so-and-so or whatever. It gets old real quick.
That's horseshit, B. I wanted to trade Buch and Strome because we weren't going to make the playoffs (still don't think we are) and because Buch is an impending RFA who will command a lot (as he should) and Strome is an UFA next year. It has nothing to do with their play or giving Laf time.
Yet there's always someone who needs trades or more ice time for so-and-so or whatever. It gets old real quick.
That's horseshit, B. I wanted to trade Buch and Strome because we weren't going to make the playoffs (still don't think we are) and because Buch is an impending RFA who will command a lot (as he should) and Strome is an UFA next year. It has nothing to do with their play or giving Laf time.
Listen, I'm ok with Strome going bye bye. But I think Pavel is on the rise, big time. I'd be doing everything I can to keep him. Unfortunately, the Kreider deal looks like it's going to be an albatross. But my point was, it's broken record shit at this point, Counselor. This team is a nipple hair from real contention. Too bad they play in this division.
RE: RE: RE: I know I may seem like an asshole for this, but I do have a couple of
complaints. And no, I'm not ungrateful. I'm happy we won and that we're a hot team right now, but there are some decisions that are bothering me.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
Are we going to through this after every game? What part of Laf isn't ready to play big minutes is confusing?
He's played just 44 career NHL games at the age of 19. This isn't the NFL where one can get by on talent alone. Everyone on the ice is just as big and talented as he is. And they have years of NHL level coaching under their belt.
He's playing undecisively. He isn't shooting the puck (which was a knock on him) and he isn't creating for his teamtes (this was a strength of his). He isn't playing the body and his breakout passes are sloppy. If you aren't seeing thistles, I don't know what to tell you. At this level, a single bad cross-ice pass turns into a goal the other way. So he isn't put into high-pressure situations.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
Your favorite thing to do seems to be shitting on guys like Howden. Fine. They're not stars. But who should Laf be taking minutes away from on the PP? Tell us.
Should Buchnevich ride the bench just because Laf was drafted first overall? Kreider? Strome? Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way.
According to who? You? You decide if he's ready or not? How the hell would you know given the fact that he receives such little ice time. And BTW, how else do you expect him to develop? He needs to be put out there and be baptized by fire. He's not going to learn much sitting on the pine. You're talking out of your ass, dude. You don't know what Laf is capable of. If you expect him to light it up every time he touches the ice, then you're expecting too much. Same situation with Gauthier. If he makes one bad play or if he doesn't produce, Quinn will bench him for the rest of the game. That's not how you develop players. No one on the kids line is getting enough ice time.
PP - Blackwell, K'Andre or Trouba...
Kreider should ride the bench because he's been awful the last few games. As I said, Quinn's reluctance to break up the KZB line is confusing, because Kreider has been struggling lately. Laf had a short run with Zibanejad and Buchnevich a few weeks ago and seemed to do very well. I'm not sure why Quinn is so hellbent on juggling every line BUT the KZB line.
And this is just pulling something out of your ass:
"Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way."
BTW, who the fuck are you? What was your previous username?
No. Not me. Their coach decides. I don't have a problem with his ice time. You do.
Howden kills penalties and is not good at it, he is great at it, did anyone notice the drop-off with our penalty kill while he was out, if coarse not, thst ruins the ranting of all the babies wanting to kill a coach who is doing a great job with the kids and with the team. Howden gets more ice time because he is on when penalty killing. He gets 4th line 5 on 5 time. The third line gets more 5 on 5 time. The kids don't get penalty killing time or much power play time because they are not better then the guys getting the time, Quinn has a responsibility to the team and players to try to win first,then develop ayers. He is doing both well. Has Panarin, Buchnevich, or Zibanejad ever played better in thier careers for other coaches other then Quinn. Has he not resurrected Strome's career? Are all the kids, including Miller and Dox not developing well, but always complaints about Howden, who has been so great as a penalty killer that we are now about the best team in the league in penalty killing after struggling in that area the last few seasons. Howden does not get much 5 on 5 time and when he does, despite the stupid rants, he us not hurting the team. He is a responsible player and it's probably his last season here because he will get scooped up in the expansion draft because others will see his value and if he doesn't he probably is not a fit here anymore, so relax.
He's playing undecisively. He isn't shooting the puck (which was a knock on him) and he isn't creating for his teamtes (this was a strength of his). He isn't playing the body and his breakout passes are sloppy. If you aren't seeing thistles, I don't know what to tell you. At this level, a single bad cross-ice pass turns into a goal the other way. So he isn't put into high-pressure situations.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
The comp to KK at this point in his rookie season is fair: each did/does struggle with less open ice, closer checking, bigger, stronger opponents (than they were accustomed to). This is not to justify Anak's perspective on these players at all, and I don't and haven't (as in, yeah, let's trade Strome and Buch in the middle of this Playoff chase to improve the team...it's GM-ship by armchair), but I do think Laf is also struggling with the juggling of linemates; he seemed more comfortable a few weeks ago for a multi-game stretch and was contributing. I'm sure the reduction in ice time weighs on him, not used to sitting, and you can see it in his body language.
I'll do my own arm chair GM thing, lol, mentioned it couple weeks ago: guess it's because his torso and smooth style so remind me of #19 up on the rafters that maybe they give him a shot at C where he might create more. Obviously not this season, and it's a different game now. Just an idle thought. He needs time, different players adjust differently.
Talk about cross-ice passes being intercepted: Trouba, aside from another strong physical game, made two brutal giveaways deep in his own end (one a blind, soft clearance right into the high slot: Igor reacted really, really quickly by coming 12 in front of his crease), within about 3 minutes of each other. He has been excellent. I'd 'maybe' fault him on the 3rd goal (1st, totally screened by KAM; 2nd, Subban, pretty close to unstoppable; 3rd thought he might be able to get piece of).
I effing love his aggressiveness with his stick, he sends these hard passes from outside his crease to a Ranger parked on the opposing blue line, more often than not right on his stick, cracks me up.
He's in a slump, it happens. You help him get out of it, you don't punish him for it. For a time, he was carrying the team this year, while Zibanejad wasn't doing well and Panarin was on leave. You have to find a way to get Kreider going again. And, in the process hopefully make the playoffs.
By the way, I totally disagree with the idea to trade Buchnevich
He's a homegrown player on the rise. We developed him into the quality player he is, why would we just give him away when the investment is just starting to pay dividends? Yes, the salary cap is an issue, and he is a RFA in line to get a hefty raise. But so what! You find a way to make it fit, and worry about everything else.
Trading him for draft picks now makes no sense. What? We are supposed to then hope to develop the picks into players years down the line, only to have to trade them too just as they start becoming good NHL'ers? Sounds like an idiotic cycle with no end.
I guess not. Breadman scores. 4-0.
It’s a shame he missed those games because of the phony accusation
I'd hate that. No thank you. Kakko should remain a Ranger.
And Zibanejad is our 1C and Strome is producing like a 1C. I agree that we need a top-6 C, but it's not a huge need. Plus, if they want, they can try to convert Krav, Kakko or Laf to C.
Why do they have to trade anyone? This Eichel shit needs to stop. If you're going to pay 10M per to him, then you'll either need to say goodbye to Kreider or Trouba in a trade (they both have NMC, FYI), or to Zibanejad, because Zibanejad is going to command at least 8M per in a year. They can't fit Panarin, Trouba, Kreider, Eichel and Zibanejad under the salary cap....and they also have guys coming off their ELCs in the future like Igor, Chytil, Kakko and Fox (who is a top defenseman and will be paid as such).
If anything, they should trade Strome or Buchnevich in the offseason in a Brassard/Zibanejad-esque deal, where they get a young, promising, cost-controlled C.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
And finally, TOI:
Lafreniere - 11 minutes
Kakko - 11 minutes
Chytil - 11 minutes
Kravtsov- 12 minutes
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
Like I said, the logical move would be trading Strome and/or Buchnevich for a young, cost-controlled C with potential. Peyton Krebs, Sam Steel, and one of the Kings' C prospects come to mind.
If the season ended today, the Rangers would be in the playoffs in every division, except the one they're in.
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
I think this team is definitely a playoff contender next year.
What other young players do we have stashed in the minors that may be ready next year Anakim?
I think this team is definitely a playoff contender next year.
What other young players do we have stashed in the minors that may be ready next year Anakim?
Nils Lundkvist
Tarmo Reunanen
Zac Jones
Matthew Robertson
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
This Ranger team is a legit playoff team. Yes, they are beating up on a bad team, but as yo stated the GD is just astronomical to not make the playoffs. I actually think the team the Rangers can clip to make the playoffs is the Isles, they have a few games against them and the Isles have three in a row against the Caps. I think all roads are very uphill for the Rangers to make it, but if they did, I think the team they would pass would not be Boston, but the Isles.
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because they're going to be a Cup contender as soon as next season
If the season ended today, the Rangers would be in the playoffs in every division, except the one they're in.
I don't think they can catch the Bruins. Could they catch the Islanders though? They play the Isles three times. They'd have to sweep them
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divisions for a minute to have a +31 goal differential and miss the playoffs would probably be historic and that's what the Rangers have today (probably top 5 in the entire NHL). The way they're playing it could even be a +45 goal differential by end of the season.
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
This Ranger team is a legit playoff team. Yes, they are beating up on a bad team, but as yo stated the GD is just astronomical to not make the playoffs. I actually think the team the Rangers can clip to make the playoffs is the Isles, they have a few games against them and the Isles have three in a row against the Caps. I think all roads are very uphill for the Rangers to make it, but if they did, I think the team they would pass would not be Boston, but the Isles.
The Rangers actually have the best goal difference in the division and are 5th. If they somehow made the playoffs...
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divisions for a minute to have a +31 goal differential and miss the playoffs would probably be historic and that's what the Rangers have today (probably top 5 in the entire NHL). The way they're playing it could even be a +45 goal differential by end of the season.
Now sure, some of that is they have two doormats who were bad all along and sold approaching the deadline, but regardless that's solidly playoff contender #'s.
I think it's easy, if they don't make the playoffs it's almost definitely due to COVID and the impact it had on Zibanejad for the first half of the season.
This Ranger team is a legit playoff team. Yes, they are beating up on a bad team, but as yo stated the GD is just astronomical to not make the playoffs. I actually think the team the Rangers can clip to make the playoffs is the Isles, they have a few games against them and the Isles have three in a row against the Caps. I think all roads are very uphill for the Rangers to make it, but if they did, I think the team they would pass would not be Boston, but the Isles.
I predicted the playoffs or close for this team before the season (you can't have a team with Panarin, Zibanejad, Trouba, a legit goalie and not expect to compete a little - this is not Ottawa), and two weeks ago I still said I think the Rangers make it. It's an uphill battle but they can sneak in.
Can't ignore Strome's productivity or his chemistry with Panarin, tough call.
Kreider looks lost.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
And finally, TOI:
Lafreniere - 11 minutes
Kakko - 11 minutes
Chytil - 11 minutes
Kravtsov- 12 minutes
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
Are we going to through this after every game? What part of Laf isn't ready to play big minutes is confusing?
He's played just 44 career NHL games at the age of 19. This isn't the NFL where one can get by on talent alone. Everyone on the ice is just as big and talented as he is. And they have years of NHL level coaching under their belt.
He's playing undecisively. He isn't shooting the puck (which was a knock on him) and he isn't creating for his teamtes (this was a strength of his). He isn't playing the body and his breakout passes are sloppy. If you aren't seeing thistles, I don't know what to tell you. At this level, a single bad cross-ice pass turns into a goal the other way. So he isn't put into high-pressure situations.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
Your favorite thing to do seems to be shitting on guys like Howden. Fine. They're not stars. But who should Laf be taking minutes away from on the PP? Tell us.
Should Buchnevich ride the bench just because Laf was drafted first overall? Kreider? Strome? Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way.
Fuck it....just keep winning guys. Nice stretch.
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complaints. And no, I'm not ungrateful. I'm happy we won and that we're a hot team right now, but there are some decisions that are bothering me.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
And finally, TOI:
Lafreniere - 11 minutes
Kakko - 11 minutes
Chytil - 11 minutes
Kravtsov- 12 minutes
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
Are we going to through this after every game? What part of Laf isn't ready to play big minutes is confusing?
He's played just 44 career NHL games at the age of 19. This isn't the NFL where one can get by on talent alone. Everyone on the ice is just as big and talented as he is. And they have years of NHL level coaching under their belt.
He's playing undecisively. He isn't shooting the puck (which was a knock on him) and he isn't creating for his teamtes (this was a strength of his). He isn't playing the body and his breakout passes are sloppy. If you aren't seeing thistles, I don't know what to tell you. At this level, a single bad cross-ice pass turns into a goal the other way. So he isn't put into high-pressure situations.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
Your favorite thing to do seems to be shitting on guys like Howden. Fine. They're not stars. But who should Laf be taking minutes away from on the PP? Tell us.
Should Buchnevich ride the bench just because Laf was drafted first overall? Kreider? Strome? Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way.
According to who? You? You decide if he's ready or not? How the hell would you know given the fact that he receives such little ice time. And BTW, how else do you expect him to develop? He needs to be put out there and be baptized by fire. He's not going to learn much sitting on the pine. You're talking out of your ass, dude. You don't know what Laf is capable of. If you expect him to light it up every time he touches the ice, then you're expecting too much. Same situation with Gauthier. If he makes one bad play or if he doesn't produce, Quinn will bench him for the rest of the game. That's not how you develop players. No one on the kids line is getting enough ice time.
PP - Blackwell, K'Andre or Trouba...
Kreider should ride the bench because he's been awful the last few games. As I said, Quinn's reluctance to break up the KZB line is confusing, because Kreider has been struggling lately. Laf had a short run with Zibanejad and Buchnevich a few weeks ago and seemed to do very well. I'm not sure why Quinn is so hellbent on juggling every line BUT the KZB line.
And this is just pulling something out of your ass:
"Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way."
BTW, who the fuck are you? What was your previous username?
That's horseshit, B. I wanted to trade Buch and Strome because we weren't going to make the playoffs (still don't think we are) and because Buch is an impending RFA who will command a lot (as he should) and Strome is an UFA next year. It has nothing to do with their play or giving Laf time.
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Yet there's always someone who needs trades or more ice time for so-and-so or whatever. It gets old real quick.
That's horseshit, B. I wanted to trade Buch and Strome because we weren't going to make the playoffs (still don't think we are) and because Buch is an impending RFA who will command a lot (as he should) and Strome is an UFA next year. It has nothing to do with their play or giving Laf time.
Listen, I'm ok with Strome going bye bye. But I think Pavel is on the rise, big time. I'd be doing everything I can to keep him. Unfortunately, the Kreider deal looks like it's going to be an albatross. But my point was, it's broken record shit at this point, Counselor. This team is a nipple hair from real contention. Too bad they play in this division.
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complaints. And no, I'm not ungrateful. I'm happy we won and that we're a hot team right now, but there are some decisions that are bothering me.
First off, Kreider needs to be taken off the Buch/Zibanejad line. It's way past time. Quinn will juggle all the lines EXCEPT that one. It's great Kreider got an ENG today, but he's been really struggling and not earning that first-line ice-time.
Second, the only somewhat decent thing Brett Howden does is kill penalties. Otherwise, he's an utterly useless, below-average player. I can't help but think how much awesome our fourth line would be if it was Kravtsov-Rooney-Gauthier.
And finally, TOI:
Lafreniere - 11 minutes
Kakko - 11 minutes
Chytil - 11 minutes
Kravtsov- 12 minutes
Lowest TOI of anyone on the team. Fucking Brett Howden, who as I mentioned before is an awful player, got more ice-time than those guys. I really, really, really don't get it. I'm happy we're winning, but how are we supposed to develop our kids when they're barely seeing the ice?
Are we going to through this after every game? What part of Laf isn't ready to play big minutes is confusing?
He's played just 44 career NHL games at the age of 19. This isn't the NFL where one can get by on talent alone. Everyone on the ice is just as big and talented as he is. And they have years of NHL level coaching under their belt.
He's playing undecisively. He isn't shooting the puck (which was a knock on him) and he isn't creating for his teamtes (this was a strength of his). He isn't playing the body and his breakout passes are sloppy. If you aren't seeing thistles, I don't know what to tell you. At this level, a single bad cross-ice pass turns into a goal the other way. So he isn't put into high-pressure situations.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
Your favorite thing to do seems to be shitting on guys like Howden. Fine. They're not stars. But who should Laf be taking minutes away from on the PP? Tell us.
Should Buchnevich ride the bench just because Laf was drafted first overall? Kreider? Strome? Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way.
According to who? You? You decide if he's ready or not? How the hell would you know given the fact that he receives such little ice time. And BTW, how else do you expect him to develop? He needs to be put out there and be baptized by fire. He's not going to learn much sitting on the pine. You're talking out of your ass, dude. You don't know what Laf is capable of. If you expect him to light it up every time he touches the ice, then you're expecting too much. Same situation with Gauthier. If he makes one bad play or if he doesn't produce, Quinn will bench him for the rest of the game. That's not how you develop players. No one on the kids line is getting enough ice time.
PP - Blackwell, K'Andre or Trouba...
Kreider should ride the bench because he's been awful the last few games. As I said, Quinn's reluctance to break up the KZB line is confusing, because Kreider has been struggling lately. Laf had a short run with Zibanejad and Buchnevich a few weeks ago and seemed to do very well. I'm not sure why Quinn is so hellbent on juggling every line BUT the KZB line.
And this is just pulling something out of your ass:
"Those guys have all spent years in the league fine tuning their game in both ends and we're seeing the dividends now. Now you want to trade everyone producing at near ppg just to give Laf minutes. It doesn't work that way. No successful professional franchise operates thus way."
BTW, who the fuck are you? What was your previous username?
No. Not me. Their coach decides. I don't have a problem with his ice time. You do.
This is not uncommon for young players and he will get better and play more as he fine tunes his mental approach not just in games, but in practices as well. Kakko was putrid last season and he's improving.
I'll do my own arm chair GM thing, lol, mentioned it couple weeks ago: guess it's because his torso and smooth style so remind me of #19 up on the rafters that maybe they give him a shot at C where he might create more. Obviously not this season, and it's a different game now. Just an idle thought. He needs time, different players adjust differently.
Talk about cross-ice passes being intercepted: Trouba, aside from another strong physical game, made two brutal giveaways deep in his own end (one a blind, soft clearance right into the high slot: Igor reacted really, really quickly by coming 12 in front of his crease), within about 3 minutes of each other. He has been excellent. I'd 'maybe' fault him on the 3rd goal (1st, totally screened by KAM; 2nd, Subban, pretty close to unstoppable; 3rd thought he might be able to get piece of).
I effing love his aggressiveness with his stick, he sends these hard passes from outside his crease to a Ranger parked on the opposing blue line, more often than not right on his stick, cracks me up.
Trading him for draft picks now makes no sense. What? We are supposed to then hope to develop the picks into players years down the line, only to have to trade them too just as they start becoming good NHL'ers? Sounds like an idiotic cycle with no end.