okay, less than 2 weeks now: State your pick at #11

In comment 15226317 Earl the goat said:

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Once to NE to 15 getting their second rounder Then to chicago at 20 getting their second rounder Giants take Vera Tucker at 20 Their three second round picks are Oweh or Ossai Edge Elijah Moore WR Najee Harris RB Not a bad haul for DG Now I just woke up from dreaming

For the fun of it-- I went on PFN and was determined to trade down waiting for trade proposals (not doing any. The only thing I did was offer counters if I felt the need.) , wound up with. I lost a 3rd or 4th rd pick in 2022.

40, 42, 53, 61, 63, 71, 76, 85, 136, 166, 170, and 196.

That is who I want but think it will be Waddle or Smith

... because we miss out on Devonta Smith.

D goes from pretty good to outstanding

Paye

Very versatile and I think he starts the year at RT.Which BTW has an immediate impact on the offense.

WR Smith speed kills

The Giants draft DeVonta Smith.

just because it is the Giants way

He will be a GREAT pro

Never trades down, until this year that is. They take Paye at 18. Even if he does not become a great pass rusher (which I think he can be) his floor is a great run defender. Because of the trade down, they can get receiver and WR in second round.

I personally prefer Slater, but my gut tells me the Giants would go for Smith

We get lucky and Waddle drops... we run to the podium.

Giants pick Paye

I was just about to delegate my vote to JonC, so...

Paye it is

In comment 15226545 JonC said:

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Giants pick Paye

Ditto.

let's see if what info gets out.

picks based on what would upset bw, so that's another reason it'll be Paye.

In fact, put me down as we trade, maybe even twice, up to pick him.

I just don't see the value at 11 but that's just my opinion.I want the Giants to pick Slater but all we heard about was the team getting playmakers for the offense.
If Smith or Waddle are available they probably pick one of them.

But I think there is a fair chance the rumors of a trade down with the Patriots has some basis and that will happen if a short group of players are off the board. That’s when I think Paye or Phillips would be selected, not at 11.

You anti-Paye posters, how do you feel about him at 15?

In comment 15226311 Dang Man said:

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Jaelen Phillips.

I don't know how they could possibly be ok with the medicals. How exactly could they be ok with multiple concussions and the fact that he already quit football once? By crossing their fingers? Maybe if he slid, but not at 11.

In comment 15226450 90.Cal said:

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... because we miss out on Devonta Smith.

I'm with 90 Cal here. Waddle as the last player in their top row that falls.

is my guess.

all find homes before #11.

Rashawn Slater goes to Dallas and that makes Smith our guy at 11.

Bonus soothsaying: Smith proves to be the only Getty Giants pick to get a gold jacket.

In comment 15226568 cosmicj said:

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But I think there is a fair chance the rumors of a trade down with the Patriots has some basis and that will happen if a short group of players are off the board. That’s when I think Paye or Phillips would be selected, not at 11. You anti-Paye posters, how do you feel about him at 15?

Better, but I still think you can parlay 15 into the early twenties and get a Paye or several equivalents.

but there are other decent options at edge in R2.

If it's not Paye - I'm thinking Smith.

I'd be okay with either but am concerned about Smith's size

are smoke

If he’s there I think the Giants run up to the podium (virtual) and take him.

If he’s gone and Waddle is there, I think they take him. If they’re both gone I don’t have a pick, as I could go a few different ways.

Either way I see them getting a quality step in and help player at 11. Just a matter of how many QBs go in the top ten and seeing more quality top guys drop because of it.

In comment 15226404 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:

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I want Devonta Smith but the closer we get to the draft, the less likely I feel like the Giants go WR. I’m not the biggest Paye fan but I wouldn’t mind him as the pick.

Slater before all the shiny offensive guys.

There is no one else like him in the draft.
Then the Giants can look at Kadarius Toney in the 2nd round, or one of the OL like Dickerson, provided health issues check out.

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He's the pick, though I think both Alabama WR's will be gone. If that's the case, then Parsons.

DeVonta Smith is taken . I will go with Allijah Vera-Tucker. I don’t want Pitts , who has a few of the same problems that have befallen Engram, but I am resigned to the fact that they would draft him at 11, if available . I red flag Waddle out of the first two rounds .

My 2 preferences - Parsons if defense, Smith if offense. (in my mind, same "tier")

I'm about as novice as novice gets, but all of the true edge players seem like a need-based reach at 11.

unless Surtain is there.

It seems to me that a premium is placed on CB/secondary in this defense above even the typical emphasis placed on the position league-wide. However, it's mostly likely Surtain is gone and we snatch a Heisman winning playmaker to further supplement the offense.

Judge strikes me as a guy who also really likes to work his relationships, just look at the staff he's built and last year's draft class. I believe the other round 1 options are Waddle, Parsons and Ojulari.

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if he’s available. He doesn’t come with the injury issue that Waddle has otherwise it would be more of a toss up I think. He’s a superb route runner with great speed and amazing hands and would be another great weapon for Jones. It’s about continuing to help DJ and I feel like he’s a premier playmaker, more so than guys like Slater would be. The WR unit still needs the help too because it Golladay goes down, what are they left with? A unit similar to last year and they would be completely screwed. They’re dying for more quality depth there. He provides that. I think his floor is as a good NFL WR. At his ceiling, if his size isn’t an issue, he can be one of the best WR in the league.

Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer.

Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft.

I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman.

Paye is hot garbage.

Would have said Waddle yesterday since I thought he'd be the one available but given the Waddle thread/rumors it sounds like Smith might be the one there.

In comment 15226793 Thegratefulhead said:

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Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer. Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft. I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman. Paye is hot garbage.

I don't know about that. But, I don't want him (at 11) because he's not special. But, we can have him or any of his equivalent edges *plus* several picks if we employ a smart strategy.

I think there are teams that will be looking to trade up (especially if a QB falls) and I think the NYG will have a bunch of players stacked similarly on their board. It was well known they tried to trade down last year and found no takers (Detroit too). This year I think it actually happens because as we have already seen there are a bunch of teams looking to maneuver.

They need to put talent at right guard instead of depending on Hernandez or the guy they signed from Houston. Slater could also be a future RT option in case the Matt Peart move doesn’t go as well as they hope.

I don’t think the Giants need a receiver, but I’d go with Waddle if Slater isn’t available because I think he’s the BPA. I don’t like Micah Parsons and I don’t trust Devonta Smith to stay healthy or to be an elite professional receiver. (Maybe I’ll be wrong on both guys.)

After that, my favorite players are JOK, Zaven Collins, and Jaelan Phillips.

None of the cast of characters we see going to the Giants at #11 in mock drafts thrill me and that includes Waddle.

I choose Waddle because he has the best chance to be a true impact player vs. the likes of D. Smith, Paye and Slater. In addition, despite the presence of Golliday, WR is still a need. I can't see Devonte Smith becoming a force in the NFL. I can't get past the physical stature.

Pick Paye at 15.

In comment 15226793 Thegratefulhead said:

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Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer. Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft. I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman. Paye is hot garbage.

LOL. I'm riding right there with you.

If I hear - "With the 11th pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the New York Football Giants select...Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan..." - I'm standing up, stepping into the pocket and hitting the wall in stride with my remote...

Giving Danny Boy the tools NoW!

In comment 15226911 bw in dc said:

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In comment 15226793 Thegratefulhead said: Quote: Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer. Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft. I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman. Paye is hot garbage. LOL. I'm riding right there with you. If I hear - "With the 11th pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the New York Football Giants select...Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan..." - I'm standing up, stepping into the pocket and hitting the wall in stride with my remote...

I just heard the commissioner in my head when I read that and I threw up a little in my mouth...

In comment 15226568 cosmicj said:

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But I think there is a fair chance the rumors of a trade down with the Patriots has some basis and that will happen if a short group of players are off the board. That’s when I think Paye or Phillips would be selected, not at 11. You anti-Paye posters, how do you feel about him at 15?

Better.

I didn't really "hate" the 11 pick. So 15 is better. And because we are trying to win this year - getting another player that could be quality player that help the team is "better" too.

103 Votes:
35 WR DeVonta Smith
22 ER Kwity Paye
14 WR Jaylen Waddle
10 LB Micah Parsons
10 OT Rashawn Slater
4 ER Azeez Ojulari
2 OT Allijah Vera-Tucker
2 CB Jaycee Horn
1 ER Jaelan Phillips
1 TE Pitts
1 ER Oweh

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