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okay, less than 2 weeks now: State your pick at #11

gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2021 6:29 pm
Go on record as to who you think the Giants will pick: State position, Name of pick and afterwards any reasons why
LB Micah Parsons  
HMunster : 4/19/2021 6:33 pm : link
Playmaker on defense. Best defensive player in the draft. I'm assuming character issues check out. Draft depth at WR and OL allow us to wait until rounds 2-4 for those positions whereas the drop-off is steep in LB and Edge.
Parsons as well  
Chip : 4/19/2021 6:37 pm : link
I believe drafting small WRs over a LB who is faster than LT and maybe weighs a lb or two more makes sense. Also with the Golladay signing it is a bigger need.
I need 11 more days  
ZogZerg : 4/19/2021 6:38 pm : link
;)
RE: I need 11 more days  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2021 6:39 pm : link
In comment 15226180 ZogZerg said:
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;)

come on ZZ man up!
WR Jaylen Waddle - Alabama  
guitarguybs12 : 4/19/2021 6:40 pm : link
It's a passing league so let's have one of the top WR groups in the entire NFL. Having a stretch the field deep threat would be a perfect pairing opposite Golladay and his contested catch skill-set. Having two outside weapons to have defenses focus on would really open the field up for our multiple middle of the field offensive weapons.
Smith  
jeff57 : 4/19/2021 6:42 pm : link
BPA.
In  
AcidTest : 4/19/2021 6:42 pm : link
this order of likelihood:

Smith.
Trade down, and take Ojulari.
Paye.
Edge Kwity Paye At #15 (Trade Back With New England)  
Trainmaster : 4/19/2021 6:43 pm : link
I know Gettleman has never traded back, but I'm getting more convinced the Giants are more a "Judge & Co" show. The Belichick / Judge connection holds for a trade.

There is one of Mac Jones (mostly likely), Trey Lance (possibly) or Justin Fields (unlikely) still available when the Giants are on the clock. Sewell, Pitts, Chase, Surtain, Parsons and D Smith from among the non-QBs have been picked. A trade back is worked out with the Patriots, with the Giants sending them 2021 #11 overall and the Giants getting 2021 #15, 2021 #46 overall (14th pick in the 2nd round), plus a 2022 third rounder.

The Giants pick Kwity Paye at #15. In round 2, they get a WR and an OL.

Smith will be there at 11  
Producer : 4/19/2021 6:43 pm : link
and that will be the pick.
Smith  
Metnut : 4/19/2021 6:43 pm : link
Best player in the whole draft and at a position of need. Would be a true home run pick.

Slater, Phillips, Parsons or Waddle would be ok if he’s off the board.
RE: In  
Gatorade Dunk : 4/19/2021 6:43 pm : link
In comment 15226184 AcidTest said:
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this order of likelihood:

Smith.
Trade down, and take Ojulari.
Paye.

This is probably accurate, though my personal preference would be Paye over Ojulari.
Just will say one thing about Parsons  
UGADawgs7 : 4/19/2021 6:44 pm : link
Stop believing everything you see. It was NOT a combine, the 40 times are BS! Amazing how this is all of a sudden the fastest draft class in the history by a lot due to no actual combine results.
The right side of this OL can really cause Jones to get injured yet again. He needs to remain healthy this year. If Slater is available, he’s the pick. Otherwise I’d go Waddle if he falls. Parsons could be this years Simmons. No thank you.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/19/2021 6:47 pm : link
Smith.

'Why the wrench?'
'Because fuck him, that's why.'
While that may be true that’s really just for fans  
UConn4523 : 4/19/2021 6:47 pm : link
scouts know the times and how fast players “look” - they do it for a living.

I’ll go with Parsons as well. I think he’s the highest rated player between the LBers and EDGE prospects and he can give us a pass rush at OLB. Can also learn from and take over for Blake in the middle in a couple years.
I think they take  
Des51 : 4/19/2021 6:49 pm : link
Edge Rusher Kwity Paye, I would prefer T/G Slater but I believe they'll go defense at 11. Sy has Paye with a higher grade than Parsons thus he's my choice on defense.
Azeez Ojulari trade down to 15  
George from PA : 4/19/2021 6:50 pm : link
.....
Smith  
chick310 : 4/19/2021 6:52 pm : link
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WR Devonta Smith  
Gregorio : 4/19/2021 6:53 pm : link
I forget which NYG said it, but their primary focus this offseason is to get weapons for Jones. K Golladay is one, D Smith would be two.
Smith or Paye  
BigBlueCane : 4/19/2021 6:54 pm : link
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Olijari  
DonQuixote : 4/19/2021 6:55 pm : link
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The Biants are the *worst* team for picking who I want them to pick  
Bill L : 4/19/2021 6:55 pm : link
And DG doesn’t trade down even when the value is piss poor. So, I predict he will take Paye. Outside shot at Slater but I just don’t think they view the OL as bad as we do. Either way, it’s a historical overdraft.

My picks are in order of preference and excluding Sewell: Pitts, Smith, Waddle, Parsons.

In order of talent it’s the same except for switching Waddle and Parsons. But the order I listed (my preference) is the order that I think will best help the Giants win in both the now and the future.
Kwity Paye, EDGE  
Sean : 4/19/2021 6:56 pm : link
I think Judge will love his versatility and work ethic. Gettleman always loves bolstering the line.

The surprise will be that they will pass on either Smith or Waddle to make the pick.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/19/2021 6:57 pm : link
If we pass on Smith & he goes off the board the next pick to the Eagles...I will be a little peeved.
Smith  
Bricktop : 4/19/2021 6:59 pm : link
If he's there, you scoop him up. This is a make or break year for Jones and will dictate much of the Giants future for the next decade. This also is Gettleman's last dance (he's done after his stint with the Giants) and his ego will not allow anything but the best effort to avoid being seen as a failure in NY. They're taking their chips and pulling a Fasell. In the middle they go.
Waddle  
BillT : 4/19/2021 7:03 pm : link
It’s who they’ve avoided being linked to. I think there is a reason for that.
Smith  
Blue21 : 4/19/2021 7:11 pm : link
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One of Waddle/Smith and  
Burt in Alameda : 4/19/2021 7:11 pm : link
Slater will be available at No. 11. My brain says Slater but my heart says Waddle/Smith, who, I think, are the best wideouts to come to the NFL in many years. Also, I think the Eagles will be all over Waddle/Smith if the Giants take Slater, and he will become a thorn in the Giants side and a knife in their psyche for many years. So, Gettleman, take the wideout.
Slater for RG  
MarvelousMike : 4/19/2021 7:12 pm : link
The need to protect DJ supersedes every other consideration. With Peart now at RT, they can grow together and begin to dominate that side of the OL in years to come.

Alternative choices would be WR Smith or LB Parsons. Cases can be easily made for either one.
Devonta Smith  
Danny Kanell : 4/19/2021 7:13 pm : link
will be a Giant.
I think two of the three top WRs will be gone  
Simms11 : 4/19/2021 7:14 pm : link
and so who will be left standing? I think Waddle, Slater or Parsons would be there for the Giants and so that’s a real tough argument there. I’ll go out on a limb and say Waddle.
RE: Devonta Smith  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/19/2021 7:15 pm : link
In comment 15226246 Danny Kanell said:
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will be a Giant.


Speak it into existence my man!
RE: I think two of the three top WRs will be gone  
Simms11 : 4/19/2021 7:16 pm : link
In comment 15226247 Simms11 said:
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and so who will be left standing? I think Waddle, Slater or Parsons would be there for the Giants and so that’s a real tough argument there. I’ll go out on a limb and say Waddle.


Why you ask? Because he’s one of the top three WRs in the entire draft, a position of need still and he’s dynamic. Would make this offense tougher to defend and if Golladay was somehow injured, could add some solid depth to a WR Corp that would be extremely average without him.
ok all you who are either making multiple picks  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/19/2021 7:17 pm : link
or not following the format will not be tallied and your picks will not count
Why so many different choices?  
robbieballs2003 : 4/19/2021 7:18 pm : link
I was told this regime makes it known a month in advance who we are drafting.
Smith  
Maggot Brain : 4/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
Marvin Harrison clone.
RE: ok all you who are either making multiple picks  
Bill L : 4/19/2021 7:19 pm : link
In comment 15226254 gidiefor said:
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or not following the format will not be tallied and your picks will not count

That’s okay. We all know how this is going to end. BBI is the quintessential overreach for need and then later complain about sucking at value drafting site.
RE: RE: In  
chopperhatch : 4/19/2021 7:21 pm : link
In comment 15226188 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15226184 AcidTest said:


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this order of likelihood:

Smith.
Trade down, and take Ojulari.
Paye.


This is probably accurate, though my personal preference would be Paye over Ojulari.


I would put Paye over Smith in terms of likelihood. A person with inside info has dropped plenty of Paye Easter Eggs.

I think the pick is Paye unless there is some world class disinfo happening.
RE: RE: ok all you who are either making multiple picks  
section125 : 4/19/2021 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15226259 Bill L said:
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In comment 15226254 gidiefor said:


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or not following the format will not be tallied and your picks will not count


That’s okay. We all know how this is going to end. BBI is the quintessential overreach for need and then later complain about sucking at value drafting site.


Um, yeah that was the last regime...
Waddle  
give66 : 4/19/2021 7:27 pm : link
I think Smith will be gone by 11
Jaylen Waddle  
gogiants : 4/19/2021 7:28 pm : link
I feel there are 8 blue chip non-QBs in the draft. My best guess has only Waddle and Parsons of the 8 remaining when the Giants pick. I think the pick would go Waddle in that case.
I do not believe it will  
section125 : 4/19/2021 7:29 pm : link
be OL. That will be at #42

I think it will be either Smith or Waddle. Waddle will be Shepard's replacement if he is chosen.

Kwity Paye would be the ER if they go that way.

So I think it will be DeVonta Smith...

Final Answer - DeVonta Smith
I wouldn’t mind  
Giant John : 4/19/2021 7:33 pm : link
Waddle, Parsons or Smith. So Smith by a nose. Just by a little.
I feel sick to my stomach...  
bw in dc : 4/19/2021 7:43 pm : link
but I fear it's going to be Paye.

"Mr. Almost"
WR Smith BPA future Gold Jacket.  
Blue21 : 4/19/2021 7:45 pm : link
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With the 11th pick in the 2021 NFL draft  
beatrixkiddo : 4/19/2021 7:49 pm : link
The NY Giants select....LBer Micah Parsons.

Tough call for me, as I’m torn on Parsons and both the 2 Bama WRs but haven’t gotten to see what Andy thinks of them yet so I am going with Parsons. Think he will provide the best value and I think Graham will have a vision of using him all over, his skillset can really help bring this defense into one of the top defenses in the league.

RE: I feel sick to my stomach...  
chopperhatch : 4/19/2021 7:50 pm : link
In comment 15226275 bw in dc said:
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but I fear it's going to be Paye.

"Mr. Almost"



You need to get out more. If a draft prodpect gets you that upset, maybe your priorities are out of whack.

Also Paye is more than a fine prospect.
I think it’ll be Paye  
AcesUp : 4/19/2021 7:51 pm : link
Edge is the biggest need, he’s solid against the run, blue blood program, traits, year 1 starter. We have shown a willingness to start a run at our biggest position of need before as well. Also easy to justify kind of reaching here by saying you can hit your other needs later because of the depth at those positions. Not my choice but I have a feeling he’s the guy.
Slater  
Ira : 4/19/2021 7:57 pm : link
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RE: I think it’ll be Paye  
chopperhatch : 4/19/2021 7:58 pm : link
In comment 15226285 AcesUp said:
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Edge is the biggest need, he’s solid against the run, blue blood program, traits, year 1 starter. We have shown a willingness to start a run at our biggest position of need before as well. Also easy to justify kind of reaching here by saying you can hit your other needs later because of the depth at those positions. Not my choice but I have a feeling he’s the guy.


The 3 cone and other measurables along with his apparent feverish work ethic tells me he can learn some pass rush moves. The All 22 breakdown showed technique against the run that he had to learn in order to apply because they were against misdirection and O line schemes. Those are all very good selling points and if he becomes like the player he is compared to (Tuck) that is a great pick for us. Plus, Sy gave him an 85 grade.
DeVonta  
Shady Lurker : 4/19/2021 7:59 pm : link
Smith
Devonta  
Johnny5 : 4/19/2021 8:09 pm : link
Smith
Jaylen Waddle  
BCD : 4/19/2021 8:12 pm : link
best guy standing at 11 for the Giants needs .....he's take the top off the D and he'll run back punts with the giants not in fear of injury because of 3 vets at WR on the roster.
Smith  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 4/19/2021 8:17 pm : link
he justs looks like a JJ guy at every level
This team simply isn't good enough  
Bricktop : 4/19/2021 8:20 pm : link
to NOT have a guy make a noticeable impact come game time - even if it's a rookie. To me, if Smith is there, he's the guy who is the most high leverage player who can make a quicker impact. Even if he just occupies space at times, runs pro routes, blocks on the perimeter and offers a threat to defenses, opening up opportunities for teammates. I'm fine with that contribution.

Your top skill guys on O are Golladay, Jones and Saquon. Kenny is a nice piece and SB is coming off a serious knee injury. The jury is still out on Jones but my gut tells me he's got the gear to trend up.

Add another weapon - a young, precise route runner who works hard on and off the field - solid pedigree under Saban - he's the odds on favorite for me.

I'm not drafting a 6'3" 305 pound guy from Northwestern at #11 to play Guard. And Slater - imo - is a positional blocker who won't drive you off the ball. He lacks the size, strength and base to dominate as a Tackle. He opted out too. That I don't like. Great workouts, but I'm not sold at all. Draft a guy, change his position and hope he makes an impact on a seriously flawed team? That's a no from me, dawg. I'm not saying he's not going to be a good player in the league. But not right now for this particular team.

The highest G drafted over the last five years was Quinton Nelson (6'5" and 330) and Slater is NOT that dude. The next draft Guards were 25+ picks later since 2015.
Who I want: Parsons  
Rjanyg : 4/19/2021 8:22 pm : link
Who it might be? Smith, Paye, Ojulari

My pick is Parsons
The Giants are ok with the medicals and select  
Dang Man : 4/19/2021 8:24 pm : link
Jaelen Phillips.
Trading down twice  
Earl the goat : 4/19/2021 8:31 pm : link
Once to NE to 15 getting their second rounder
Then to chicago at 20 getting their second rounder

Giants take Vera Tucker at 20
Their three second round picks are
Oweh or Ossai Edge
Elijah Moore WR
Najee Harris RB


Not a bad haul for DG
Now I just woke up from dreaming
...  
ryanmkeane : 4/19/2021 8:49 pm : link
DeVonta Smith
Paye  
Dankbeerman : 4/19/2021 8:56 pm : link
at 11 followed by talk of how he was a top 5 player on their board.

For the record I want Waddle and would be happy with Waddle/Smith/Surtain
Devonta Smith  
Finch : 4/19/2021 9:02 pm : link
They said they want more weapons for Jones. I think they will grab whichever of Smith or Waddle is leftover. And every year teams fall in love for WRs with speed. My guess is Waddle is gone and Smith will be the pick
DeVonta Smith, WR, Alabama  
MadPlaid : 4/19/2021 9:07 pm : link
If he is not there, and Slater is, then Slater. If neither are there, I hope for a trade down if possible. I don't want them reaching for someone because he fits a need. That to me is the worst case scenario.
Paye  
j_rud : 4/19/2021 9:11 pm : link
Size, athleticism, versatility, and character/personality, he just seems like a Judge guy.

I think they'd take Smith if he were there and I personally would prefer Parsons. Think both will be gone though, and Paye isn't an awful consolation.
Smith  
Svengali : 4/19/2021 9:13 pm : link
BPA.....
Ojulari  
Breeze_94 : 4/19/2021 9:20 pm : link
I’m predicting Azeez after a trade down with...Vegas.

They jump LAC and MIN to take Oline.
Smith  
JerseyCityJoe : 4/19/2021 9:21 pm : link
Although I would rather have Parsons.
Slater  
CT Charlie : 4/19/2021 9:44 pm : link
The more competition, the better. Plus, Hernandez may want to walk, though I think he'll play hard for the money this year.
Smith or Waddle if there are there.  
blueblood : 4/19/2021 9:46 pm : link
My preference is Waddle.
any of the above mentioned but Ojulari  
gtt350 : 4/19/2021 9:48 pm : link
I just don't see it, not impressed
RE: RE: I feel sick to my stomach...  
Bill L : 4/19/2021 9:51 pm : link
In comment 15226284 chopperhatch said:
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In comment 15226275 bw in dc said:


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but I fear it's going to be Paye.

"Mr. Almost"




You need to get out more. If a draft prodpect gets you that upset, maybe your priorities are out of whack.

Also Paye is more than a fine prospect.
Sure, if we were picking in the twenties.
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Go Terps : 4/19/2021 9:55 pm : link
Want: Surtain or Smith

Expect: Paye
RE: .  
Bill L : 4/19/2021 9:56 pm : link
In comment 15226371 Go Terps said:
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Want: Surtain or Smith

Expect: Paye

I can’t believe I’m with you and be in abject pessimism.
.  
Go Terps : 4/19/2021 10:00 pm : link
I don't know enough to say Paye would be a bad pick. This isn't me expecting the worst.

The only thing that could really piss me off is if for some reason Lance is there at 11 and we pass.
Paye isn’t my first choice..  
Sean : 4/19/2021 10:02 pm : link
but, I just get the sense he’ll be the pick. I’d like the pick a lot more if they dropped down a few spots, selected Paye and netted some more mid round picks.
Smith cause he will take over games ....  
Manny in CA : 4/19/2021 10:07 pm : link

From the slot; just like Steve Sarkasian had him doing it at Alabama.

If he's gone, gotta go with Kwity Paye; gotta catch those mangy QBs that got away last year.
I think it's Waddle or Smith with the 11th overall pick...  
Milton : 4/19/2021 10:08 pm : link
I'm just not sure it's the Giants or the Bengals, Dolphins, or Lions making the selection.
just can't see the Giants selecting offense with  
Rory : 4/19/2021 10:17 pm : link
their #1 4 years in a row.

Kwity Paye just passes the eye test, 270lb great speed and is a force on the outside so he is the pick at 11 (no trade down).
Mac  
Chocco : 4/19/2021 10:18 pm : link
Jones
Smith  
redwhiteandbigblue : 4/19/2021 10:25 pm : link
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Kwity Paye  
PatersonPlank : 4/19/2021 10:26 pm : link
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At #11 the NYG pick  
Gmanfandan : 4/19/2021 10:33 pm : link
Jaycee Horn (tho I wouldnt mind Parsons, Smith or Sewell - I think Sewell is gone I think Smith and Parsons are there - and I think Horn is a terrific pick and a main stay in the secondary for years to come)

I also think it IS going to be the pick
RE: Paye isn’t my first choice..  
Go Terps : 4/19/2021 10:33 pm : link
In comment 15226379 Sean said:
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but, I just get the sense he’ll be the pick. I’d like the pick a lot more if they dropped down a few spots, selected Paye and netted some more mid round picks.


I'd really like if they traded down and took Horn, though it sounds like Horn may be moving up.
I think it will be Paye or Slater  
Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy : 4/19/2021 10:40 pm : link
I want Devonta Smith but the closer we get to the draft, the less likely I feel like the Giants go WR.

I’m not the biggest Paye fan but I wouldn’t mind him as the pick.
My pick  
Reale01 : 4/19/2021 10:42 pm : link
Smith or Slater, Smith if both are there
If neither are there then someone has dropped
Waddle  
GFAN52 : 4/19/2021 10:47 pm : link
.
Rashawn Slater  
compton : 4/19/2021 10:48 pm : link
is the pick at 11.
I’m hoping we go....  
UticaMike : 4/19/2021 10:48 pm : link
1. Slater
2. Toney
3. Best pass rusher available

The O-Line must be addressed first. We need to put DJ in the best position possible for success. Peart is not a sure thing. Same with Solder at swing tackle. People seem to keep throwing the “we could do a lot worse at swing tackle” line around when discussing Solder. He was a turnstile the last we saw of him. He’s older and hasn’t played an NFL snap in quite a while. The fact that he may no longer start won’t soothe me if he gets DJ killed. We can’t even guarantee Hernandez assumes a starting guard spot, and the thought of the kid we just picked up from the Texans starting scares me. Slater in Round 1z
Toney would be a great find in Round 2.
The Giants were able generate pressure last year by committee, and with a great year by LW. We’re getting Carter and Ximines back from injury. No reason to think we can’t continue to progress in that area from within. Edge Rusher can wait until Round 3.
Who do I want: Smith or Parsons  
GiantsLaw : 4/19/2021 10:52 pm : link
Who do I think: Paye
Clearly going to be a receiver  
Jimmy Googs : 4/19/2021 10:54 pm : link
so either Smith or Waddle. Pitts will be gone.
LB...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/19/2021 10:54 pm : link
...Parsons.

Gettleman and Judge will recognize the this guy, more than any other prospect at 11, had the ability to affect the outcome.
#11, IMV represents the greatest opportunity to add a special player.
Micah  
No Where Man : 4/19/2021 10:58 pm : link
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Devonta Smith  
AdamBrag : 4/19/2021 11:01 pm : link
Makes too much sense not too happen
Smith, then Surtain then Slater  
sb from NYT Forum : 4/19/2021 11:13 pm : link
...then Waddle I guess, but his ankle full of screws scares me.
Unless this regime has changed its stripes, I'm afraid it's  
CMc in 342 : 4/19/2021 11:16 pm : link
Ojulari without a trade down at #11. They've had their eyes on him since last year with Crowder. The only solace is that the pick isn't Paye who is an undersized tweener at a little over 6'2" and 261 lbs.
Paye is 6'2" 261 lbs. - ( New Window )
RE: Devonta Smith  
Rory : 4/19/2021 11:47 pm : link
In comment 15226423 AdamBrag said:
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Makes too much sense not too happen


If you take Smith then Slayton never develops further.
My best guess would be that the Giants take  
SirYesSir : 4/20/2021 12:11 am : link
Jaycee Horn

I'm assuming Surtain will be gone to Dallas. I know the wr's and o lineman are tempting, but I think they'll view these two corners as equal or better prospects at a more valuable position. It's a deep draft at those two positions.

Trade down? I wouldn't rule it out, but I'm not expecting it to happen. If they want an edge, I doubt they'd trade back and risk losing him...I'm sure they don't have all those guys with question marks ranked equally.
I have absolutely no idea who the Giants will pick.  
TC : 4/20/2021 12:13 am : link
My past assumptions have demonstrated the futility of such predictions.

But my top 3 preferences in order are: Pitts, Smith or Paye. (AKA, Pootie Tang) Pitts and Smith likely both gone by #11. And while #11 might be a little early for Paye, and though his floor might not be as high as some edges, MY GAWD, the ceiling!

I wouldn't cry if Sewell was surprisingly still around at #11 either. In fact, I'd dance a jig. Lots of other decent prospects as well.
RE: RE: Devonta Smith  
SirYesSir : 4/20/2021 12:16 am : link
In comment 15226435 Rory said:
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In comment 15226423 AdamBrag said:


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Makes too much sense not too happen



If you take Smith then Slayton never develops further.



You don't alter your draft strategy over Slaton, a 5th rounder who had a good rookie year. If he's good enough to get on the field, he can develop. He's a third-year player now
DeVonta Smith  
tyrik13 : 4/20/2021 12:22 am : link
Aka the Slim Reaper!!
RE: RE: Devonta Smith  
tyrik13 : 4/20/2021 12:24 am : link
In comment 15226435 Rory said:
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In comment 15226423 AdamBrag said:


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Makes too much sense not too happen



If you take Smith then Slayton never develops further.


If you think Shep, Slayton and Ross will prevent them from drafting Smith if he’s there you’ve got a lot to learn about football my friend.
Edge- Kwity Paye - at number 11  
giantstock : 4/20/2021 12:41 am : link
IMO The Giants love high floor guys vs going for “more juice.” The Giants prefer the dependable guy rather than going for that extra juice. And he’ll be a very good run stopper and over the years develop more as a pass rusher. This is the Giants style. A safe pick.

Albeit for me just another example of another underwhelming pick at 11. The 2 WR's and Slater “have more juice” imo. But Giants will look at these guys as too much risk –

IMO they look at some of the others as -- Slater is not a hog mollie and Smith is too slight and Waddle is small with injury concerns. I might even like Surtain over Paye but haven’t thought about that too much. And Parsons seems to have some bad behind the scenes inuendo. Giants don’t go for that.
RE: Trading down twice  
giantstock : 4/20/2021 12:49 am : link
In comment 15226317 Earl the goat said:
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Once to NE to 15 getting their second rounder
Then to chicago at 20 getting their second rounder

Giants take Vera Tucker at 20
Their three second round picks are
Oweh or Ossai Edge
Elijah Moore WR
Najee Harris RB


Not a bad haul for DG
Now I just woke up from dreaming


For the fun of it-- I went on PFN and was determined to trade down waiting for trade proposals (not doing any. The only thing I did was offer counters if I felt the need.) , wound up with. I lost a 3rd or 4th rd pick in 2022.

40, 42, 53, 61, 63, 71, 76, 85, 136, 166, 170, and 196.
Parsons  
uconngiant : 4/20/2021 12:51 am : link
That is who I want but think it will be Waddle or Smith
WR. Jaylen Waddle  
90.Cal : 4/20/2021 2:14 am : link
... because we miss out on Devonta Smith.
Parsons  
OC2.0 : 4/20/2021 2:43 am : link
D goes from pretty good to outstanding
Edge  
pa_giant_fan : 4/20/2021 5:59 am : link
Paye
Slater  
Rick in Dallas : 4/20/2021 6:15 am : link
Very versatile and I think he starts the year at RT.Which BTW has an immediate impact on the offense.
Smith  
bob_in_ec : 4/20/2021 7:02 am : link
WR Smith speed kills
Mara said they need playmakers.  
johnnyb : 4/20/2021 7:10 am : link
The Giants draft DeVonta Smith.
Edge, Oweh  
Clearwater Joe : 4/20/2021 7:41 am : link
just because it is the Giants way
WR Devonta Smith  
gary_from_chester : 4/20/2021 7:49 am : link
He will be a GREAT pro
Gettleman  
Bones : 4/20/2021 8:02 am : link
Never trades down, until this year that is. They take Paye at 18. Even if he does not become a great pass rusher (which I think he can be) his floor is a great run defender. Because of the trade down, they can get receiver and WR in second round.
Smith or Slater  
mavric : 4/20/2021 8:34 am : link
I personally prefer Slater, but my gut tells me the Giants would go for Smith
Waddle...  
KingBlue : 4/20/2021 8:37 am : link
We get lucky and Waddle drops... we run to the podium.
I pick Parsons  
JonC : 4/20/2021 8:46 am : link
Giants pick Paye
Ha!  
fkap : 4/20/2021 8:49 am : link
I was just about to delegate my vote to JonC, so...

Paye it is

RE: I pick Parsons  
Klaatu : 4/20/2021 8:49 am : link
In comment 15226545 JonC said:
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Giants pick Paye


Ditto.
Two weeks to go  
JonC : 4/20/2021 8:52 am : link
let's see if what info gets out.
I've heard DG  
fkap : 4/20/2021 8:59 am : link
picks based on what would upset bw, so that's another reason it'll be Paye.

In fact, put me down as we trade, maybe even twice, up to pick him.
If the Giants really want to pick an Edge player why not trade down?  
Rick in Dallas : 4/20/2021 8:59 am : link
I just don't see the value at 11 but that's just my opinion.I want the Giants to pick Slater but all we heard about was the team getting playmakers for the offense.
If Smith or Waddle are available they probably pick one of them.
I say Devonta Smith at 11  
cosmicj : 4/20/2021 9:03 am : link
But I think there is a fair chance the rumors of a trade down with the Patriots has some basis and that will happen if a short group of players are off the board. That’s when I think Paye or Phillips would be selected, not at 11.

You anti-Paye posters, how do you feel about him at 15?
RE: The Giants are ok with the medicals and select  
Dr. D : 4/20/2021 9:06 am : link
In comment 15226311 Dang Man said:
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Jaelen Phillips.

I don't know how they could possibly be ok with the medicals. How exactly could they be ok with multiple concussions and the fact that he already quit football once? By crossing their fingers? Maybe if he slid, but not at 11.
RE: WR. Jaylen Waddle  
Gfan in PA : 4/20/2021 9:10 am : link
In comment 15226450 90.Cal said:
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... because we miss out on Devonta Smith.


I'm with 90 Cal here. Waddle as the last player in their top row that falls.
Slater  
Giantophile : 4/20/2021 9:21 am : link
is my guess.
Waddle becomes their choice after Pitts, Chase and Smith  
NYGgolfer : 4/20/2021 9:31 am : link
all find homes before #11.
DaVonta Smith  
trueblueinpw : 4/20/2021 9:42 am : link
Rashawn Slater goes to Dallas and that makes Smith our guy at 11.

Bonus soothsaying: Smith proves to be the only Getty Giants pick to get a gold jacket.
RE: I say Devonta Smith at 11  
Bill L : 4/20/2021 9:43 am : link
In comment 15226568 cosmicj said:
Quote:
But I think there is a fair chance the rumors of a trade down with the Patriots has some basis and that will happen if a short group of players are off the board. That’s when I think Paye or Phillips would be selected, not at 11.

You anti-Paye posters, how do you feel about him at 15?


Better, but I still think you can parlay 15 into the early twenties and get a Paye or several equivalents.
Thinking Paye  
bc4life : 4/20/2021 9:48 am : link
but there are other decent options at edge in R2.

If it's not Paye - I'm thinking Smith.

I'd be okay with either but am concerned about Smith's size
wondering if the Parsons' concerns  
bc4life : 4/20/2021 9:51 am : link
are smoke
Smith  
Eman11 : 4/20/2021 9:58 am : link
If he’s there I think the Giants run up to the podium (virtual) and take him.

If he’s gone and Waddle is there, I think they take him. If they’re both gone I don’t have a pick, as I could go a few different ways.

Either way I see them getting a quality step in and help player at 11. Just a matter of how many QBs go in the top ten and seeing more quality top guys drop because of it.
RE: I think it will be Paye or Slater  
Old Blue : 4/20/2021 10:14 am : link
In comment 15226404 Osi Osi Osi OyOyOy said:
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I want Devonta Smith but the closer we get to the draft, the less likely I feel like the Giants go WR.

I’m not the biggest Paye fan but I wouldn’t mind him as the pick.


Slater before all the shiny offensive guys.
Parsons  
Spider in Warwick : 4/20/2021 10:14 am : link
There is no one else like him in the draft.
Then the Giants can look at Kadarius Toney in the 2nd round, or one of the OL like Dickerson, provided health issues check out.
I think the Giants trade up for Pitts if he makes it past 6.  
Britt in VA : 4/20/2021 10:17 am : link
.
If Smith is there  
JohnF : 4/20/2021 10:37 am : link
He's the pick, though I think both Alabama WR's will be gone. If that's the case, then Parsons.
Presumption  
RetroJint : 4/20/2021 10:37 am : link
DeVonta Smith is taken . I will go with Allijah Vera-Tucker. I don’t want Pitts , who has a few of the same problems that have befallen Engram, but I am resigned to the fact that they would draft him at 11, if available . I red flag Waddle out of the first two rounds .
Gut feeling Paye  
bigbluehoya : 4/20/2021 10:55 am : link
My 2 preferences - Parsons if defense, Smith if offense. (in my mind, same "tier")

I'm about as novice as novice gets, but all of the true edge players seem like a need-based reach at 11.

I think Devonta Smith will be the pick  
Chris684 : 4/20/2021 10:55 am : link
unless Surtain is there.

It seems to me that a premium is placed on CB/secondary in this defense above even the typical emphasis placed on the position league-wide. However, it's mostly likely Surtain is gone and we snatch a Heisman winning playmaker to further supplement the offense.

Judge strikes me as a guy who also really likes to work his relationships, just look at the staff he's built and last year's draft class. I believe the other round 1 options are Waddle, Parsons and Ojulari.
Slater  
Sec 103 : 4/20/2021 11:17 am : link
.
WR DeVonta Smith  
illmatic : 4/20/2021 11:21 am : link
if he’s available. He doesn’t come with the injury issue that Waddle has otherwise it would be more of a toss up I think. He’s a superb route runner with great speed and amazing hands and would be another great weapon for Jones. It’s about continuing to help DJ and I feel like he’s a premier playmaker, more so than guys like Slater would be. The WR unit still needs the help too because it Golladay goes down, what are they left with? A unit similar to last year and they would be completely screwed. They’re dying for more quality depth there. He provides that. I think his floor is as a good NFL WR. At his ceiling, if his size isn’t an issue, he can be one of the best WR in the league.
Paye  
Thegratefulhead : 4/20/2021 11:32 am : link
Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer.

Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft.

I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman.

Paye is hot garbage.
Waddle or Smith  
armstead98 : 4/20/2021 11:37 am : link
Would have said Waddle yesterday since I thought he'd be the one available but given the Waddle thread/rumors it sounds like Smith might be the one there.
RE: Paye  
Bill L : 4/20/2021 11:38 am : link
In comment 15226793 Thegratefulhead said:
Quote:
Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer.

Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft.

I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman.

Paye is hot garbage.


I don't know about that. But, I don't want him (at 11) because he's not special. But, we can have him or any of his equivalent edges *plus* several picks if we employ a smart strategy.
at 11 my pick is that they trade down  
Eric on Li : 4/20/2021 11:40 am : link
I think there are teams that will be looking to trade up (especially if a QB falls) and I think the NYG will have a bunch of players stacked similarly on their board. It was well known they tried to trade down last year and found no takers (Detroit too). This year I think it actually happens because as we have already seen there are a bunch of teams looking to maneuver.
I want Slater.  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 4/20/2021 11:44 am : link
They need to put talent at right guard instead of depending on Hernandez or the guy they signed from Houston. Slater could also be a future RT option in case the Matt Peart move doesn’t go as well as they hope.

I don’t think the Giants need a receiver, but I’d go with Waddle if Slater isn’t available because I think he’s the BPA. I don’t like Micah Parsons and I don’t trust Devonta Smith to stay healthy or to be an elite professional receiver. (Maybe I’ll be wrong on both guys.)

After that, my favorite players are JOK, Zaven Collins, and Jaelan Phillips.
Jaylen Waddle  
BlueVinnie : 4/20/2021 11:51 am : link
None of the cast of characters we see going to the Giants at #11 in mock drafts thrill me and that includes Waddle.

I choose Waddle because he has the best chance to be a true impact player vs. the likes of D. Smith, Paye and Slater. In addition, despite the presence of Golliday, WR is still a need. I can't see Devonte Smith becoming a force in the NFL. I can't get past the physical stature.
Giants trade down with NE  
George : 4/20/2021 12:19 pm : link
Pick Paye at 15.
RE: Paye  
bw in dc : 4/20/2021 12:29 pm : link
In comment 15226793 Thegratefulhead said:
Quote:
Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer.

Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft.

I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman.

Paye is hot garbage.


LOL. I'm riding right there with you.

If I hear - "With the 11th pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the New York Football Giants select...Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan..." - I'm standing up, stepping into the pocket and hitting the wall in stride with my remote...
WR DeVonta Smith  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/20/2021 12:30 pm : link
Giving Danny Boy the tools NoW!
RE: RE: Paye  
Thegratefulhead : 4/20/2021 12:56 pm : link
In comment 15226911 bw in dc said:
Quote:
In comment 15226793 Thegratefulhead said:


Quote:


Will be picked because he the only one that makes me want to throw up if picked at 11. We need someone that can actually sack the QB. He couldn't do that in college, I cannot project it to his pro game. We already do well against the run. The game has changed folks. You have to get to the passer.

Yeah, I'm bitter about the draft.

I want one of pass catcher or Parsons. I would be happy with one of the corner and accept a lineman.

Paye is hot garbage.



LOL. I'm riding right there with you.

If I hear - "With the 11th pick in the 2021 NFL draft, the New York Football Giants select...Kwity Paye, DE, Michigan..." - I'm standing up, stepping into the pocket and hitting the wall in stride with my remote...
I just heard the commissioner in my head when I read that and I threw up a little in my mouth...
RE: I say Devonta Smith at 11  
giantstock : 4/20/2021 10:43 pm : link
In comment 15226568 cosmicj said:
Quote:
But I think there is a fair chance the rumors of a trade down with the Patriots has some basis and that will happen if a short group of players are off the board. That’s when I think Paye or Phillips would be selected, not at 11.

You anti-Paye posters, how do you feel about him at 15?


Better.

I didn't really "hate" the 11 pick. So 15 is better. And because we are trying to win this year - getting another player that could be quality player that help the team is "better" too.
Tally goes as follows  
gidiefor : Mod : 4/21/2021 12:43 pm : link
103 Votes:
35 WR DeVonta Smith
22 ER Kwity Paye
14 WR Jaylen Waddle
10 LB Micah Parsons
10 OT Rashawn Slater
4 ER Azeez Ojulari
2 OT Allijah Vera-Tucker
2 CB Jaycee Horn
1 ER Jaelan Phillips
1 TE Pitts
1 ER Oweh

if your vote was not clear, if you picked more than 1 choice as either/or your vote was not counted
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