Playmaker on defense. Best defensive player in the draft. I'm assuming character issues check out. Draft depth at WR and OL allow us to wait until rounds 2-4 for those positions whereas the drop-off is steep in LB and Edge.
I believe drafting small WRs over a LB who is faster than LT and maybe weighs a lb or two more makes sense. Also with the Golladay signing it is a bigger need.
It's a passing league so let's have one of the top WR groups in the entire NFL. Having a stretch the field deep threat would be a perfect pairing opposite Golladay and his contested catch skill-set. Having two outside weapons to have defenses focus on would really open the field up for our multiple middle of the field offensive weapons.
I know Gettleman has never traded back, but I'm getting more convinced the Giants are more a "Judge & Co" show. The Belichick / Judge connection holds for a trade.
There is one of Mac Jones (mostly likely), Trey Lance (possibly) or Justin Fields (unlikely) still available when the Giants are on the clock. Sewell, Pitts, Chase, Surtain, Parsons and D Smith from among the non-QBs have been picked. A trade back is worked out with the Patriots, with the Giants sending them 2021 #11 overall and the Giants getting 2021 #15, 2021 #46 overall (14th pick in the 2nd round), plus a 2022 third rounder.
The Giants pick Kwity Paye at #15. In round 2, they get a WR and an OL.
Stop believing everything you see. It was NOT a combine, the 40 times are BS! Amazing how this is all of a sudden the fastest draft class in the history by a lot due to no actual combine results.
The right side of this OL can really cause Jones to get injured yet again. He needs to remain healthy this year. If Slater is available, he’s the pick. Otherwise I’d go Waddle if he falls. Parsons could be this years Simmons. No thank you.
scouts know the times and how fast players “look” - they do it for a living.
I’ll go with Parsons as well. I think he’s the highest rated player between the LBers and EDGE prospects and he can give us a pass rush at OLB. Can also learn from and take over for Blake in the middle in a couple years.
Edge Rusher Kwity Paye, I would prefer T/G Slater but I believe they'll go defense at 11. Sy has Paye with a higher grade than Parsons thus he's my choice on defense.
And DG doesn’t trade down even when the value is piss poor. So, I predict he will take Paye. Outside shot at Slater but I just don’t think they view the OL as bad as we do. Either way, it’s a historical overdraft.
My picks are in order of preference and excluding Sewell: Pitts, Smith, Waddle, Parsons.
In order of talent it’s the same except for switching Waddle and Parsons. But the order I listed (my preference) is the order that I think will best help the Giants win in both the now and the future.
If he's there, you scoop him up. This is a make or break year for Jones and will dictate much of the Giants future for the next decade. This also is Gettleman's last dance (he's done after his stint with the Giants) and his ego will not allow anything but the best effort to avoid being seen as a failure in NY. They're taking their chips and pulling a Fasell. In the middle they go.
Slater will be available at No. 11. My brain says Slater but my heart says Waddle/Smith, who, I think, are the best wideouts to come to the NFL in many years. Also, I think the Eagles will be all over Waddle/Smith if the Giants take Slater, and he will become a thorn in the Giants side and a knife in their psyche for many years. So, Gettleman, take the wideout.
The need to protect DJ supersedes every other consideration. With Peart now at RT, they can grow together and begin to dominate that side of the OL in years to come.
Alternative choices would be WR Smith or LB Parsons. Cases can be easily made for either one.
and so who will be left standing? I think Waddle, Slater or Parsons would be there for the Giants and so that’s a real tough argument there. I’ll go out on a limb and say Waddle.
and so who will be left standing? I think Waddle, Slater or Parsons would be there for the Giants and so that’s a real tough argument there. I’ll go out on a limb and say Waddle.
Why you ask? Because he’s one of the top three WRs in the entire draft, a position of need still and he’s dynamic. Would make this offense tougher to defend and if Golladay was somehow injured, could add some solid depth to a WR Corp that would be extremely average without him.
or not following the format will not be tallied and your picks will not count
That’s okay. We all know how this is going to end. BBI is the quintessential overreach for need and then later complain about sucking at value drafting site.
or not following the format will not be tallied and your picks will not count
That’s okay. We all know how this is going to end. BBI is the quintessential overreach for need and then later complain about sucking at value drafting site.
I feel there are 8 blue chip non-QBs in the draft. My best guess has only Waddle and Parsons of the 8 remaining when the Giants pick. I think the pick would go Waddle in that case.
Tough call for me, as I’m torn on Parsons and both the 2 Bama WRs but haven’t gotten to see what Andy thinks of them yet so I am going with Parsons. Think he will provide the best value and I think Graham will have a vision of using him all over, his skillset can really help bring this defense into one of the top defenses in the league.
Edge is the biggest need, he’s solid against the run, blue blood program, traits, year 1 starter. We have shown a willingness to start a run at our biggest position of need before as well. Also easy to justify kind of reaching here by saying you can hit your other needs later because of the depth at those positions. Not my choice but I have a feeling he’s the guy.
Edge is the biggest need, he’s solid against the run, blue blood program, traits, year 1 starter. We have shown a willingness to start a run at our biggest position of need before as well. Also easy to justify kind of reaching here by saying you can hit your other needs later because of the depth at those positions. Not my choice but I have a feeling he’s the guy.
The 3 cone and other measurables along with his apparent feverish work ethic tells me he can learn some pass rush moves. The All 22 breakdown showed technique against the run that he had to learn in order to apply because they were against misdirection and O line schemes. Those are all very good selling points and if he becomes like the player he is compared to (Tuck) that is a great pick for us. Plus, Sy gave him an 85 grade.
come on ZZ man up!
Smith.
Trade down, and take Ojulari.
Paye.
There is one of Mac Jones (mostly likely), Trey Lance (possibly) or Justin Fields (unlikely) still available when the Giants are on the clock. Sewell, Pitts, Chase, Surtain, Parsons and D Smith from among the non-QBs have been picked. A trade back is worked out with the Patriots, with the Giants sending them 2021 #11 overall and the Giants getting 2021 #15, 2021 #46 overall (14th pick in the 2nd round), plus a 2022 third rounder.
The Giants pick Kwity Paye at #15. In round 2, they get a WR and an OL.
Slater, Phillips, Parsons or Waddle would be ok if he’s off the board.
Smith.
Trade down, and take Ojulari.
Paye.
This is probably accurate, though my personal preference would be Paye over Ojulari.
The right side of this OL can really cause Jones to get injured yet again. He needs to remain healthy this year. If Slater is available, he’s the pick. Otherwise I’d go Waddle if he falls. Parsons could be this years Simmons. No thank you.
'Why the wrench?'
'Because fuck him, that's why.'
I’ll go with Parsons as well. I think he’s the highest rated player between the LBers and EDGE prospects and he can give us a pass rush at OLB. Can also learn from and take over for Blake in the middle in a couple years.
My picks are in order of preference and excluding Sewell: Pitts, Smith, Waddle, Parsons.
In order of talent it’s the same except for switching Waddle and Parsons. But the order I listed (my preference) is the order that I think will best help the Giants win in both the now and the future.
The surprise will be that they will pass on either Smith or Waddle to make the pick.
Alternative choices would be WR Smith or LB Parsons. Cases can be easily made for either one.
Speak it into existence my man!
Why you ask? Because he’s one of the top three WRs in the entire draft, a position of need still and he’s dynamic. Would make this offense tougher to defend and if Golladay was somehow injured, could add some solid depth to a WR Corp that would be extremely average without him.
That’s okay. We all know how this is going to end. BBI is the quintessential overreach for need and then later complain about sucking at value drafting site.
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Smith.
Trade down, and take Ojulari.
Paye.
This is probably accurate, though my personal preference would be Paye over Ojulari.
I would put Paye over Smith in terms of likelihood. A person with inside info has dropped plenty of Paye Easter Eggs.
I think the pick is Paye unless there is some world class disinfo happening.
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or not following the format will not be tallied and your picks will not count
That’s okay. We all know how this is going to end. BBI is the quintessential overreach for need and then later complain about sucking at value drafting site.
Um, yeah that was the last regime...
I think it will be either Smith or Waddle. Waddle will be Shepard's replacement if he is chosen.
Kwity Paye would be the ER if they go that way.
So I think it will be DeVonta Smith...
Final Answer - DeVonta Smith
"Mr. Almost"
Tough call for me, as I’m torn on Parsons and both the 2 Bama WRs but haven’t gotten to see what Andy thinks of them yet so I am going with Parsons. Think he will provide the best value and I think Graham will have a vision of using him all over, his skillset can really help bring this defense into one of the top defenses in the league.
"Mr. Almost"
You need to get out more. If a draft prodpect gets you that upset, maybe your priorities are out of whack.
Also Paye is more than a fine prospect.
The 3 cone and other measurables along with his apparent feverish work ethic tells me he can learn some pass rush moves. The All 22 breakdown showed technique against the run that he had to learn in order to apply because they were against misdirection and O line schemes. Those are all very good selling points and if he becomes like the player he is compared to (Tuck) that is a great pick for us. Plus, Sy gave him an 85 grade.