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Does WFT trading up for Lance make you nervous?

Sean : 4/19/2021 6:50 pm
I have no idea what to make of Trey Lance, and frankly neither does anyone. The guy has barely played. The prospect of another Patrick Mahomes is enough for teams to make that leap though with regards to Lance. A lot of rumors have WFT being very high on Lance. That, coupled with this tweet from Rapaport - maybe they could pull off a trade to get him.
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The #Dolphins have already made two moves in the NFL Draft and they may not be done yet: Sources say they’ve received calls from teams looking to trade up to No. 6 and it is something they’re considering. Lot of things in play, but Miami could be at it again.

I’m indifferent as a Giant fan, chances are Lance is middle of the road at best. It’ll be interesting to see if WFT can pull it off.
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RE: Britt: If you REALLY think about it...  
Section331 : 4/20/2021 11:32 am : link
In comment 15226649 Big Blue Blogger said:
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... Jones is probably not a good comp for Trey Lance.

Jones came into the League with three solid seasons of experience. Lance played one year, back in 2019. Competition level aside (like struggling against Illinois State in his last game), the biggest question about Lance is his thin resume.

I realize Jones plays faster than his 4.8 from the combine, but he's not a 4.55 guy like Lance. And by most accounts, Lance has a stronger arm, even at this early stage. I doubt you will see many draftniks mentioning Jones as a comp for Lance.


But that thin resume is an awfully big question mark. Hasn't played the position for very long, has just over a year starting, hasn't played in over a year, and played for a dominant program at a lower level.

Yikes. I'd be fine taking a flyer on him in a later round, but the bust factor is really high. I guess the best comp might be Josh Allen, but at least he had 2 years starting, played QB in HS, and played for a FBS school (albeit a lower level one).

If he works out like Allen has, good on WFT, but I think the odds are long.
Jones and Lance are not similar  
Go Terps : 4/20/2021 11:47 am : link
They aren't similar players. Jones is straight line fast, but he doesn't extend plays with his legs all that often. When he tries to it's usually a problem. Lance is more agile, a better athlete, and better at throwing on the move.

And yes Lance's thin college resume is a concern, but what about Jones's wholly unimpressive college resume? He's one of the worst college quarterbacks drafted in the first round in the last ten years.

RE: Lance is light on reps...  
Thegratefulhead : 4/20/2021 11:49 am : link
In comment 15226220 bw in dc said:
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but he is an enormous talent. Considerably more talented than Haskins.

And the old regime drafted Haskins. It's an entirely new regime at WFT right now.
Lawrence should be the best QB in the draft but Lance's ceiling is just as high.
RE: Jones and Lance are not similar  
Thegratefulhead : 4/20/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15226815 Go Terps said:
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They aren't similar players. Jones is straight line fast, but he doesn't extend plays with his legs all that often. When he tries to it's usually a problem. Lance is more agile, a better athlete, and better at throwing on the move.

And yes Lance's thin college resume is a concern, but what about Jones's wholly unimpressive college resume? He's one of the worst college quarterbacks drafted in the first round in the last ten years.
Agree, completely different players and as college prospect, I think Lance is much more worthy of top ten pick than Jones was. He creates off schedule plays that Jones does not. Jones is likely faster but Lance is more elusive with a better arm.
RE: Lance is light on reps...  
Victor in CT : 4/20/2021 11:56 am : link
In comment 15226220 bw in dc said:
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but he is an enormous talent. Considerably more talented than Haskins.

And the old regime drafted Haskins. It's an entirely new regime at WFT right now.


and an entirely new one will pick Lance's successor. A never ending virtuous cylce as long as lil Danny owns them. I hope Miami does it.
RE: And Jones was the fastest straight line QB in the NFL last year...  
Thegratefulhead : 4/20/2021 11:57 am : link
In comment 15226672 Britt in VA said:
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faster than Lamar Jackson at top speed. So I do think he plays MUCH faster than his 4.8 at the combine.
Jones is straight line fast and it takes a while for him to get to speed. That long, straight run, that he fell on his face against air, is why he measured so fast. He was untouched. Jackson is usually starting, stopping and cutting. Jones GPS is overblown. Jackson would blow his doors CLEAN off in the 40. If I was the same age as Jones and we played tag, Jones might be faster than me but in a million years he could not put a finger on me.
RE: Jones and Lance are not similar  
bw in dc : 4/20/2021 12:36 pm : link
In comment 15226815 Go Terps said:
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They aren't similar players. Jones is straight line fast, but he doesn't extend plays with his legs all that often. When he tries to it's usually a problem. Lance is more agile, a better athlete, and better at throwing on the move.

And yes Lance's thin college resume is a concern, but what about Jones's wholly unimpressive college resume? He's one of the worst college quarterbacks drafted in the first round in the last ten years.


Yes, Lance only played one year. But when you go 28/0 TDs/INTs, rush for 1K yards and another 14 TDs rushing you are pretty damn gifted...regardless of the competition.
Dallas is in QB Hell for the foreseeable future.  
FStubbs : 4/20/2021 12:37 pm : link
Philly is there for just this year as they eat Wentz's dead money.

Giants and WTF aren't in QB hell. Neither have huge amounts of cap space tied up in mediocre QBs and can easily pivot to another signal caller if what they have doesn't work out.
RE: Dallas is in QB Hell for the foreseeable future.  
djm : 4/20/2021 12:39 pm : link
In comment 15226926 FStubbs said:
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Philly is there for just this year as they eat Wentz's dead money.

Giants and WTF aren't in QB hell. Neither have huge amounts of cap space tied up in mediocre QBs and can easily pivot to another signal caller if what they have doesn't work out.


So basically, QB hell means you're paying one of the better QBs a lot of money? So every team paying the QB is in stupid ass QB hell? Uhhhh no. Stop.

Can we put that stupid shit to rest?

QB hell  
djm : 4/20/2021 12:40 pm : link
and if we had PRescott last year we probably win 10 games. Not a knock on Jones, just facts. I like Jones, but stop with this nonsense.

Here's a little thing that is going to make some of nuts. The goal is to find that QB and pay him a lot of money. That's the goal.
RE: QB hell  
Victor in CT : 4/20/2021 1:28 pm : link
In comment 15226934 djm said:
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and if we had PRescott last year we probably win 10 games. Not a knock on Jones, just facts. I like Jones, but stop with this nonsense.

Here's a little thing that is going to make some of nuts. The goal is to find that QB and pay him a lot of money. That's the goal.


Only if Prescott was going to catch his own passes.
Know what makes me nervous?  
Racer : 4/20/2021 3:11 pm : link
Spiders,snakes, and the IRS. They're in our league, it's competition. I look forward to that.
RE: RE: QB hell  
djm : 4/20/2021 3:29 pm : link
In comment 15227016 Victor in CT said:
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In comment 15226934 djm said:


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and if we had PRescott last year we probably win 10 games. Not a knock on Jones, just facts. I like Jones, but stop with this nonsense.

Here's a little thing that is going to make some of nuts. The goal is to find that QB and pay him a lot of money. That's the goal.



Only if Prescott was going to catch his own passes.


fair enough. but I wish dallas didn't have prescott. We'd beat them more often.
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