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Gettleman and Abrams PC

jvm52106 : 4/20/2021 12:51 pm
I am listening in to the PC and for the most part it is just standard pre draft talk but it has some interesting tidbits.

Abrams just said 2022 Salary Cap could be a bit of challenge depending on how the cap is structured. Said after that they should be fine. That was a pretty honest answer.
How do I listen  
UGADawgs7 : 4/20/2021 12:56 pm : link
Or watch? Is it on giants website?
DG being questioned about other  
jvm52106 : 4/20/2021 12:57 pm : link
colleagues saying Adore Jackson's contract was inexcusable. DG said everyone is entitled to their opinion.

DG believes he is an inside out side player, very flexible, can play the ball and very versatile.
Just finished.  
90.Cal : 4/20/2021 12:57 pm : link
Dave made me laugh at least 3x.
It was on the Giants  
jvm52106 : 4/20/2021 12:57 pm : link
ap and just ended.

I will write up what I remember of all the questions if people are interested.
RE: It was on the Giants  
Bill L : 4/20/2021 12:59 pm : link
In comment 15226978 jvm52106 said:
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ap and just ended.

I will write up what I remember of all the questions if people are interested.


Absolutely and thanks.
Abrams gives very little to the media..  
Sean : 4/20/2021 1:01 pm : link
just an observation.
No questions  
DoctorT : 4/20/2021 1:03 pm : link
About how Joe Judge figured in this process
Yes... quite a stark difference in style between DG and KA  
regulator : 4/20/2021 1:19 pm : link
Abrams is a pretty boring interview but that tidbit on the 2022 cap was insightful.

Frankly, I prefer my capologist/numbers guy to be more of a nerd than a showman!
I can't watch Dave in front of a microphone  
NoPeanutz : 4/20/2021 1:24 pm : link
Wife and I just started the journey this week, and all I can think about when I see him is "pretzel, hotdog, bag of donuts." He'll sabotage our diet before it even gets off the ground.
Getts spent a good bit of the presser  
Jimmy Googs : 4/20/2021 1:29 pm : link
rubbing and trying to focus his eyes, drinking his water bottle and providing a little more color from all of Abrams answers. Abrams barely showed he had a pulse.

Biggest takeaway - Abrams has some concerns of being tight on 2022 cap.

As much as I can remember (working at same time)  
jvm52106 : 4/20/2021 1:32 pm : link
**'s mean my opinion. The items below are the best of my recollection feel free to add or clarify if I miss something or heard incorrectly.

DG and Abrams questioned about Barkleys contract (and or)extension and possibly Jones's as well. Did it factor into their mindset at all while doing these other contracts etc.

ans- Abrams says everyone ash a say into that adn they look at everything but wasn't at the forefront right now. DG says nothing is done in a vaccuum.

Question on why Booker was a priority and if it had to do with maybe Barkley not being fully ready and that Booker was seen as a guy who could take a lead role.

ans- They liked Booker, believe he can be an asset and help with special teams and that they expect he will play a role.

Someone asked why Leonard got his deal (something to that effect)

ans- 11.5 sacks certainly played a role there.

Tom Rock made the poor choice of words question when he asked how do you Quantify where this roster is right now after your signings.

ans- Abrams said what do mean by quantify. If we feel our roster is better now and deeper now than the end of the season the answer is yes. DG followed quantify will happen in the Fall when we start playing in September. We all feel pretty good about the additions we have made.

A question was asked about how DG feels about our Edge group (as is now) and after a lot of back and forth clarification for DG to understand the question was about the current roster:

ans- they feel good about Carter and Xman's recovery from injury, they have Coughlin and Brown as well and the draft still to come. Then it was asked by Jordan raanan (following up to previous reporters question), do the view I.O. as an edge because DG didn't mention him by name. Dg mentioned he is in play but he has a LOT of inside rush potential. ** my opinion, they view him as more inside rusher and maybe occasional outside. **

Kim Jones wasked specifically if the Giants targeted FA to build up those around DJ's for him to have success.

ans- DG said they built there roster to help make it better across the board. You get OL to keep the QB upright and get him playmakers. But, that also helps build the running game, build a defense (then said his quote he always says, Offense scores points and wins games, defense wins championships) and then mentioned building ST's as well.

A questioned was asked about FA and the draft, how they are worked within the building.

ans- Giants have two boards, a draft and a FA board. They look at positions of need and see which area (FA or the DRAFT) is deeper and that helps decide on where to focus energies in FA. Was very clear the two pieces as worked in conjunction with each other.

Question was asked about Kyle Rudolph and why the Giants didn't change the handshake deal (once his medical issue was found out, to a more incentive based deal).

ans- Giants feel very good about Kyle, barnes and Doc signed off on the signing and the NY Giants don't do business that way. They are a class organization. They feel Rudolph will be a "PROFESSIONAL TE" - used more than once to describe him- as he can catch, knows where to be on the field and will help with the running game as well. ** Take of that what you will but he said it more than once and it sure seemed like a knock against someone else or at least something they felt lacking with that position.**

Question about Golladay deal and why it was important to bring him into the building before signing him.

ans- The physical, the medicals. Get him checked out.
They certainly have more faith in Carter and Ximines  
Angel Eyes : 4/20/2021 1:38 pm : link
Than I do.
Thanks. Good stuff  
Bill L : 4/20/2021 1:42 pm : link
I think the part about Rudolph's deal is true and perhaps rare enough for the Giants really to be looked at as a class organization by their players if not others.
RE: They certainly have more faith in Carter and Ximines  
jvm52106 : 4/20/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15227031 Angel Eyes said:
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Than I do.


I don't believe they have faith in them, as in they believe they have answers on the roster now. The question was specifically about the EDGE group the Giants have now. DG's answer was more a run down than I feel really good about it.
He said something like...  
90.Cal : 4/20/2021 2:14 pm : link
"When you draft a franchise quarterback (Daniel Jones)... first you got to protect him (Andrew Thomas)... then you got to get him playmakers.......(?)"

Could mean... '& so we got him Kenny Golladay'... but IMO that came across as DG showing his hand a little. I think he wants a playmaker at the top of this draft... now whether we get one or not, who knows.
^^  
Dr. D : 4/20/2021 2:20 pm : link
it could be similar to any positive comments JJ has about Engram. Doesn't mean JJ has much more faith in him than the avg BBIer does, but what good does it do for JJ to publicly say he drops the ball too much and we wish we could upgrade and get rid of the guy? That wouldn't help trade value or Engram's confidence.
RE: They certainly have more faith in Carter and Ximines  
mfsd : 4/20/2021 2:22 pm : link
In comment 15227031 Angel Eyes said:
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Than I do.


I just read that as pre-draft “GM speak”. They’re not going to come out and say those guys probably won’t cut it, we’re pretty desperate for better edge players.
I'll  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/20/2021 2:29 pm : link
have the transcripts up shortly.
Do you think the internally  
Dnew15 : 4/20/2021 2:30 pm : link
the Giants brass cringe every time DG addresses the media?
RE: They certainly have more faith in Carter and Ximines  
Bill in UT : 4/20/2021 2:46 pm : link
In comment 15227031 Angel Eyes said:
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Than I do.


According the jvm, they feel good about their recoveries. He didn't say they feel good about their ability
RE: RE: They certainly have more faith in Carter and Ximines  
Angel Eyes : 4/20/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15227049 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15227031 Angel Eyes said:


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Than I do.



I don't believe they have faith in them, as in they believe they have answers on the roster now. The question was specifically about the EDGE group the Giants have now. DG's answer was more a run down than I feel really good about it.

I’ll admit I don’t have much faith in the edges we have now; the only guy who’s proven he can rush the passer there (more than 5 sacks in a season) is Odenigbo; I viewed him more as a guy like George Martin, an extra defensive end brought in on obvious passing situations.
RE: He said something like...  
jvm52106 : 4/20/2021 3:23 pm : link
In comment 15227095 90.Cal said:
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"When you draft a franchise quarterback (Daniel Jones)... first you got to protect him (Andrew Thomas)... then you got to get him playmakers.......(?)"

Could mean... '& so we got him Kenny Golladay'... but IMO that came across as DG showing his hand a little. I think he wants a playmaker at the top of this draft... now whether we get one or not, who knows.


The question was in direct relation to FA and the Giants egtting Golladay, Rudolph, Ross etc.
Interesting on Adoree Jackson  
mittenedman : 4/20/2021 3:26 pm : link
playing the slot.

If he is going to be the slot CB in subpackages, it makes it much more likely they draft an outside CB (like Surtain) at #11.
I need to see this video...  
bw in dc : 4/20/2021 3:26 pm : link
along with the transcripts. I'm sure Gettleman had some nuggets in there that people just aren't catching... ;)
RE: I need to see this video...  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2021 3:27 pm : link
In comment 15227198 bw in dc said:
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along with the transcripts. I'm sure Gettleman had some nuggets in there that people just aren't catching... ;)


I'm sure you'll be more than eager to share them with us
While we wait for the transcript, here is a one for his fan club...  
Jimmy Googs : 4/20/2021 3:35 pm : link


Yes..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 4/20/2021 3:36 pm : link
Jimmy Clownshoes hard at work!
RE: He said something like...  
81_Great_Dane : 4/20/2021 3:41 pm : link
In comment 15227095 90.Cal said:
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"When you draft a franchise quarterback (Daniel Jones)... first you got to protect him (Andrew Thomas)... then you got to get him playmakers.......(?)"

Could mean... '& so we got him Kenny Golladay'... but IMO that came across as DG showing his hand a little. I think he wants a playmaker at the top of this draft... now whether we get one or not, who knows.
They've been saying all along that they wanted to get playmakers for the offense. Not sure that means they're committed to a receiver (Smith, Pitts or Waddle) in the first, but I'd be shocked if they didn't take at least one in their first three picks. Lots of WRs in this draft, all shapes and sizes.
I was saving that one just for you as acting President  
Jimmy Googs : 4/20/2021 3:41 pm : link
of the Dave Gettleman Fan Club...
RE: He said something like...  
Jimmy Googs : 4/20/2021 3:45 pm : link
In comment 15227095 90.Cal said:
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"When you draft a franchise quarterback (Daniel Jones)... first you got to protect him (Andrew Thomas)... then you got to get him playmakers.......(?)"



A QB, O-linemen, playmakers...cutting edge stuff from our GM.

That man knows roster-building like nobody's business...
Just...  
Brown_Hornet : 4/20/2021 4:06 pm : link
...wow
RE: Just...  
section125 : 4/20/2021 4:44 pm : link
In comment 15227259 Brown_Hornet said:
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...wow


Something wrong? Wow?

Or just commenting on the obviousness of that statement?
It's Still Amazing To Me  
BlueVinnie : 4/20/2021 5:00 pm : link
That Gettleman has never traded down even once in his 8 drafts as a GM. Granted it can be done too often (see Belichick, Bill) but never having done it seems crazy.

Seems to me, based on our needs, current draft position and players who will likely be available at 1.11, round 1 is screaming for a trade down this year.
RE: It's Still Amazing To Me  
Rory : 4/21/2021 12:10 am : link
In comment 15227319 BlueVinnie said:
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That Gettleman has never traded down even once in his 8 drafts as a GM. Granted it can be done too often (see Belichick, Bill) but never having done it seems crazy.

Seems to me, based on our needs, current draft position and players who will likely be available at 1.11, round 1 is screaming for a trade down this year.


if you have a player you want why risk it?
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