I have a good college buddy of mine whose got into NFL scouting and in the past I posted information of his when he worked on Jeff Fisher's staff on the Rams.
Now that's out of the way, my buddy now does scouting for an AFC team. He mentioned the Giants have reached out on several fronts, some have been in concerns to a trade down from #11. In addition, they have also talked about a possible Evan Engram trade if the Giants draft Kyle Pitts. He stated they're discussing terms but looking like Engram would go for a 2022 conditional draft pick that would be a 3rd or 4th round pick based on performance.
Part that I found interesting....I told him I didn't think Pitts would fall to the Giants pick at 11 but he said from what he's hearing from his team, they're expecting the Giants to move up.
Take all this with a grain of salt, just wanted to share what I heard this afternoon from my buddy.
I threw it, I really did.
Not following comment on positional value and TEs. Would you expect them to go often in the Top 5?
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but for those saying Pitts doesn't make it out of the Top 5... since there is a lot of talk about positional value on this site, I think it's important to note that no TE has been taken in the Top 5 since 1972. The highest a TE has gone since then is Vernon Davis at 6, in 2006.
Not following comment on positional value and TEs. Would you expect them to go often in the Top 5?
No, I'm talking about a lot of the talking points over the past three years discussing who is and isn't worthy of a top 5 pick.
For instance, the criticism of the Barkley as the 2nd overall pick because using positional value you should never take a running back that high (despite the fact that the RB position is taken in the top 5 a lot more than other positions, 28 time since 1980 in fact).
Guards are another position that are not considered worthy of a top 5 pick.
I'm saying, add TE's to that list. They just don't historically go in the top 5.
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unreal some of you guys...
Anyway, back a couple of months ago. My son was visiting me in FL. They were on the phone and he said that the Giants have actively shopped Engram to see if there was any interest and what could they get for him.
Supposedly a New York team, so that's either the Jets or the Bills and the Chargers were offering a 4th or 5th. But the Giants felt he was worth more than that.
Could be one of the reason that Judge has been so complimentary of EE to pump up his value.
From what I heard, the giants were interested in acquiring Mike Williams partially in exchange for Engram. Chargers mulled it but declined. You've got good intel I can see :)
Here's facts:
1) Gettlemen in love with Pitts, he was the only player in press that he talked about. Sound the same way he talked about Jones.
2) Gettlemen built Carolina the same way with Benjamin, and Funchess. I.e Golladay and Pitts.
3) Mara talked about how the NFL is becoming a passing league, Pitts, Shap, Slayton,and Golladay would give a top receiving core.