So, after the draft is done, what pieces should the Giants be able to acquire that would be assets?
For me, I’d prefer the Giants to have:
An edge rusher who can pressure/sack the quarterback if Leonard Williams can’t get there, an offensive guard who can hold up in pass protection, a wide receiver or two who are sure handed targets, a two-way tight end (who can block and catch) who can be mentored by Rudolph, and a running back who can complement Barkley and alleviate some of the workload.
Maybe: a cornerback who can start and not look like an idiot should Adoree Jackson or James Bradberry go down.
Definite luxury items: another middle linebacker beside Martinez, a defensive tackle; not sure if we need a nose or a 3-tech. I’m not much of a hog mollie guy when it comes to defense. Safeties since we have a few.
Thoughts?
That’s what we have right now, barring any trades.
Whether it's a sideline to sideline LB in the mold of Devin White (Parsons? Davis?).
Or an edge rusher who can generate some sack strips (like they tried to get in Floyd).
Or one of the top wideouts.
Or another highly athletic offensive lineman who can help slow down the other team's pass rushers, limit turnovers against, and open holes for Barkley.
I'd love to see a draft where the top 2 picks come away with 1 big play SEC receiver and 1 front 7 player with some real explosiveness.
2 - find two players for the OL, a starting Guard and a developing other OL at any position (C, G or OT)
3 - add some developing/depth to RB, ILB & TE units
If Giants negotiate slight trade-down then maybe they can grab an Edge in Rd 1 and add a solid (not star) WR with the extra pick they get. Maybe...
2 - find two players for the OL, a starting Guard and a developing other OL at any position (C, G or OT)
3 - add some developing/depth to RB, ILB & TE units
Completely agree. Rd 1 should be a top 5 WR (Smith, Waddle ) and Rd 2 should be a top 10 OL. In a draft strong at WR and OL it has to be this way.
Quality OG capable of playing OT
WR, preferably an electric slot type to compliment what’s on the roster
Second rounder (First one): Get WR, OL or Edge that wasn't taken in the first round.
Second rounder (via Trade): Get WR, OL or Edge that wasn't taken in the first or second round above:
Third, fourth, sixth & sixth: Smart, talented, hard working football players regardless of position.
They need somebody who can get to the opposing QB (that's why Trent Brown & Odeenigbo are here); Carter & Ximines haven't proven they can do it.
Kwity Paye is not a top tier edge, but I think he's capable of
consistent Shaq Barrett/Brandon Graham type play - 8/9 sacks, with constant pressure/hits on the QB
2 through 9 not in order but BPA between G, WR, OT, RB, TE, CB, OLB and ILB. Thus every position is cited on offense other than QB. But per below a backup is needed.
Then behind this DT and backup QB. And because of BPA these can jump the others.
The problem imo is that there is no “super” Edge. And I’m not so high on Guards/Centers after early to at best mid portion of round 2. And nearly every other position needs an upgrade. You can “what if” nearly any scenario with “what if” we lose our best player at a certain position to convince yourself that we need “that” added-depth at “that” position.
I’m of the opinion that you need to know asap about Jones and Barkley as a result I’m higher on offense especially the OL but specifically EVERY POSITION on OFFENSE. And a super WR or super TE over the OL? – sure. You can get an Edge in rd 2 or if you get enough super talent in rounds 1 and 2 on offense a rd 3 Edge guy could be serviceable.
You know we spent all this money on Williams and had a mid-1st round pick in Lawrence – and does this mean they are nothing more than glorified run stoppers? And now we’re possibly going to take Paye another mostly run stopper (at least this early)? If the 2 are mostly run stoppers then what are we doing by using so much money on them in a passing league? And just add Paye – the same general type- isn’t he?
The point is- the Giants still should be able to “survive” if they go rounds 1 and 2 on offense even if they go away from biggest need in these rounds. If need be - trade up and get an Edge in rd 2 as well etc.
I just want the Giants to come out of this draft with a top five player. Stripping away the quarterbacks, I think all of the above come close to that criteria
Did not include Pitts or Sewell as I don’t think they will be there at 11
I have an truly "all-in" version where we trade the next two 1's to get an extra top 10-15 pick for your choice of OG/OT or edge
I have an truly "all-in" version where we trade the next two 1's to get an extra top 10-15 pick for your choice of OG/OT or edge
Huh?
I don't even know what to make of that.
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at the expense of the number ones in the next two drafts. So, all in for Jones in this draft. I would walk away with Smith and Slayter/VT in this draft.
I don't even know what to make of that.