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“Definitely a guy like Plax it gives you big answer answer outside, guy that it’s hard to match up with one on one,” Gilbride told Big Blue View earlier this week. “If he [Golladay] can do those things that not only becomes a viable pass threat that has to be defended, but the defending of that individual will also open up numerous opportunities in other areas. Gilbride said it was Smith, though, who put the Giants’ offense over the top. Smith had only 8 receptions during the 2007 regular season, but had 14 in the playoffs and Super Bowl. He wnet on to be a major factor for the Giants for the next two seasons, catching 107 passes in 2009, before injuries shortened his career. “Steve Smith made all the difference in the world for us. Everyone thinks it was Plax, who was a terrific player and helped us immensely, but Steve Smith was the missing piece,” Gilbride said. “When Steve came we had Plaxico outside, Steve inside and that’s when we went on to win the Super Bowl.” |
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“I’ve said this for years and years and years. You can’t judge a quarterback by his first year. It’s just not fair,” Gilbride said. “The ones that succeed usually do it because they’re in exceptional circumstances … or they can solve problems with their feet.” “Not only does a guy like that change the quarterback’s confidence it opens up opportunities in a lot of different areas, including the run game.” While 2021 will be Jones’ third NFL season, Gilbride considers him a second-year player because of the Giants’ change in coaching staffs and schemes after his rookie season. “You change from one offense to another it’s hard, it’s difficult … to me this is his second year,” Gilbride said. Gilbride said that continuing to build an offensive line that will keep him comfortable will help Jones. “I know that Dave Gettleman is painfully aware of the shortcoming at the end of my time with the offensive line. He’s done everything he can to address that. I know it’s gone maybe a little more slowly than the Giants fans would want, but he certainly made the commitment to getting that problem solved,” Gilbride said. “That helps the young guy more than anything else. Then he’s just gotta make that step where he sees things quickly enough that he doesn’t hang in the pocket that long. Some of the misfortune he has experienced is really when he’s trying to make more out of a play than the play is allowing.” Getting him the right support is a big part of the equation. The rest, though, is up to Jones. “Hopefully he’ll grow, and the supporting cast around him will enable him to do that,” Gilbride said. “But it’s up to him, too. He’s gotta make the next step. No question about it. |
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Working for Tom Coughlin Gilbride was a pass to set up the run offensive coordinator. He learned the Run ‘n Shoot offense from Mouse Davis in the CFL, brought it to the Houston Oilers and coordinator an offense that finished top five in scoring from 1990-94. When he joined the Giants, it was Gilbride’s second tour working for Coughlin. When he became offensive coordinator for the Giants, he said the head coach wanted power football mixed with Gilbride’s wide open and often complex passing concepts. “Tom just wanted us to be more of a grind out, so I had to mix that in maybe more than I would have wanted to, but I always tried to honor what he would like philosophically,” Gilbride said. “He wanted balance. He never interfered, never said run this play, that play. I have the greatest admiration for how hard that is for a football guy to do that, and yet he never interfered. So I give him all the credit in the world, but he also made it clear what he wanted.” |
We have several posters here who believe that being critical shows that they are realistic.
The truth is they bring nothing to the table but emotion and statistics I don't know enough about football to actually digest what goes on.
I have no idea what it means to be a good fan so I suppose we can all be good fans But that doesn't mean we're all good message bored posters.
This is a great thread because it shows That those in the know have patience that emotional fans don't have.
The funny part is that Pollyanna suggests that someone is simply emotional in a positive way, but in fact, it's those that continually criticize that which they don't completely understand, that are actually doing so out of emotion only.
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And it is a false narrative to say that I only make positive comments about the Giants and that I think anyone who criticizes the Giants is a bad fan. When did I ever say that? I am probably more critical of the Giants then most BECAUSE I am such a huge fan.
We deal with this lazy shit ALL THE TIME. Sure we’re positive, but at least we do our level best to explain our position whether it’s agreed with or not. What we get from many naysayers is the “drinking the Kool-Aid” mantra or the “Giants can do no wrong in our eyes.”
The rep we get NEVER disappears, so I try hard to ignore them or pass over their posts. They rarely express themselves having an opinion. Just absolutes, as they stubbornly entrench themselves in their facts..
Yes, facts are stuborn things aren't they.
And enough with this "absolutes" crap.
Almost all posts on BBI are "opinions".
Do we really need to have every post include qualifiers like, IMV, IMHO, or I think, for you to tell the difference between an opinion and a fact?
We have several posters here who believe that being critical shows that they are realistic.
The truth is they bring nothing to the table but emotion and statistics I don't know enough about football to actually digest what goes on.
I have no idea what it means to be a good fan so I suppose we can all be good fans But that doesn't mean we're all good message bored posters.
This is a great thread because it shows That those in the know have patience that emotional fans don't have.
The funny part is that Pollyanna suggests that someone is simply emotional in a positive way, but in fact, it's those that continually criticize that which they don't completely understand, that are actually doing so out of emotion only.
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And it is a false narrative to say that I only make positive comments about the Giants and that I think anyone who criticizes the Giants is a bad fan. When did I ever say that? I am probably more critical of the Giants then most BECAUSE I am such a huge fan.
We deal with this lazy shit ALL THE TIME. Sure we’re positive, but at least we do our level best to explain our position whether it’s agreed with or not. What we get from many naysayers is the “drinking the Kool-Aid” mantra or the “Giants can do no wrong in our eyes.”
The rep we get NEVER disappears, so I try hard to ignore them or pass over their posts. They rarely express themselves having an opinion. Just absolutes, as they stubbornly entrench themselves in their facts..
Yes, facts are stuborn things aren't they.
And enough with this "absolutes" crap.
Almost all posts on BBI are "opinions".
Do we really need to have every post include qualifiers like, IMV, IMHO, or I think, for you to tell the difference between an opinion and a fact?
Yes we do
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And it is a false narrative to say...that I think anyone who criticizes the Giants is a bad fan. When did I ever say that?
Here's what you said:
"Of course, those on this board who hate Jones and just want to trash him will ignore Gilbrides comment and the circumstances DJ had to deal with last year. When he kills it and proves everyone wrong this year I will be very happy for him, our fans and the organization."
That suggests you think any fan who is ever critical of Jones not only "hates" him, but that they just (as in only) want to trash him...and that's nonsense.
You then go on to suggest that when Jones kills it and "proves everyone wrong" (I assume you're talking about those "haters" being proven wrong) that YOU will be very happy (as opposed to those "haters" who secretly want Jones to fail, just so that they can "win" an argument on a fan website).
To suggest that you implied anything other than YOU are a good fan and the haters are bad fans is disingenuous.
I am critical of Jones where criticism is warranted, and there has been a lot, I have made that clear in my previous posts. I am also open minded enough, and have watched enough film, to acknowledge certain criticism is not warranted and people are just flat our ignoring circumstance.
My comment regarding proving everyone wrong was directed at everyone who has ignored a lot of key facts, or seemingly written Jones off, or has failed to see the big picture — media and fans of other teams included. Not just you or BBI posters, not everything is about you.
And my comment regarding when Jones kills it - I will be happy FOR “our fans” - that meant everyone, haters included because everyone will be happy when we win and I want Giants fans to be happy. I did not say I will only be happy for those fans who never ever said a single bad thing about Jones.
I don’t understand why you feel attacked or feel the need to put words in my mouth. I am not suggesting fans who are critical of the Giants are bad fans - I am extremely critical of the Giants and Jones where it is deserved.
I now understand what Big Blue ‘56 meant above.
I agreed 100%. He also appeared to be making those decisions much quicker in the 2nd half of last year. I would like to see him get out and use his legs more to pick up 6-8 to make it 3rd and NBD.
Do we really need to have every post include qualifiers like, IMV, IMHO, or I think, for you to tell the difference between an opinion and a fact?
No, you most certainly do not.
imv
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Do we really need to have every post include qualifiers like, IMV, IMHO, or I think, for you to tell the difference between an opinion and a fact?
No, you most certainly do not.
imv
Exactly, Jones has to be quicker with his reads - that has been a problem for him all along. He has to process the field quicker. Who knows if he can make that next step. I’d like to think as he grows into the system and gets more comfortable and confident it will free him up to just play loose and make quick decisions. We shall see.
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Do we really need to have every post include qualifiers like, IMV, IMHO, or I think, for you to tell the difference between an opinion and a fact?
No, you most certainly do not.
imv
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