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NFT: Happy deGrom Day! 6:40 start v. Pivetta

jpkmets : 4/28/2021 11:48 am
Finally passed my vaccine efficacy date and I am going to see the Mets for the first time in 18 months or so.

Longest stretch in my life that I haven't been to a Mets game. My late father took me to games as an infant and I'd been every year before last year.

So, I thought I'd make the game thread. Lineups not up yet, obviously,

But the starters are deGrom 2-2, 0.31 50 K in 29 IP v Nick Pivetta 2-0 3.48 18 Ks, 14 hits, 14 BB in 20 innings.

Be a great time to get the bats awakened. Tomorrow is yet another off day -- but the team should be playing regularly from now on, and it's time to get to raking!

LFGM!
awesome  
KDavies : 4/28/2021 12:00 pm : link
hope you see a good game. Posted on the other Mets thread, but Ollie Perez was DFAed.

I'd bring him in. No runs given up this year. Odd move.
RE: awesome  
jpkmets : 4/28/2021 12:13 pm : link
In comment 15237338 KDavies said:
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hope you see a good game. Posted on the other Mets thread, but Ollie Perez was DFAed.

I'd bring him in. No runs given up this year. Odd move.


I think that would be a useful add to the Pen, for sure!


Thanks -- I hope I see Jake dealing and Lindor going off. That plus a Premio's spicy sausage will make for a great night!
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Named Later : 4/28/2021 12:30 pm : link
Enjoy the game jpk !!

I still wish they'd swap Dom with Conforto in the lineup....Dom is swinging at too many bad pitches.

Road Trip to Philly and St Louis next.

LFGM !!
RE: ..  
jpkmets : 4/28/2021 12:49 pm : link
In comment 15237422 Named Later said:
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Enjoy the game jpk !!

I still wish they'd swap Dom with Conforto in the lineup....Dom is swinging at too many bad pitches.

Road Trip to Philly and St Louis next.

LFGM !!


Agreed -- Dom's approach has been a bit off lately. Wouldn't mind a game with Davis in LF and Guillorme at 3B ahead of the off-day.

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Named Later : 4/28/2021 12:55 pm : link
I absolutely love the idea of DeGrom following Peterson in the rotation. After watching Big Lefty nibble around the strike zone with off-speed.....here comes Jake bringing the heat !!
Sometimes as fans  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2021 1:32 pm : link
we don't realize how lucky we are when moves get made or don't made or how close they came to being disasters. We know about acquiring trying to acquire Carlos Gomez vs acquiring Cespedes, the almost trade of Wheeler for Jay Bruce.

And now if you believe Peter Gammons:

.  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2021 3:20 pm : link
Michael Baron
@michaelgbaron
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14m
Official: #Mets claim C Deivy Grullón and option him to the alt site in Brooklyn. 40-man roster is once again full.
Buxton  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2021 4:02 pm : link
has gone from "maybe bust" to arguably the #5 best player in the sport. Unreal.
RE: Buxton  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2021 4:16 pm : link
In comment 15237940 DanMetroMan said:
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has gone from "maybe bust" to arguably the #5 best player in the sport. Unreal.


not bust status, but firmly in the trending to a disappointment camp for Vlad Jr too.
RE: RE: Buxton  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2021 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15237976 pjcas18 said:
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In comment 15237940 DanMetroMan said:


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has gone from "maybe bust" to arguably the #5 best player in the sport. Unreal.



not bust status, but firmly in the trending to a disappointment camp for Vlad Jr too.


Vlad is unreal. I personally was never too concerned with him (wasn't sure he'd have monster power due to his launch angle, which obviously would have looked disappointing vs. some of the 40+ homer guys we see now ) but he was still 9% better than a league-average hitter for his age 20-21 years, let himself get a bit porky. Blue Jays are going to be scary for a while. Very young, money to spend, and an excellent farm.

- Some interesting early season "breakouts". Nick Solak (former Yankee farm hand) with 7 homers (13th in the league in fWAR), Cedric Mullins 1.2 fWAR and like Lebron James, fans keep looking for the "best player" and that best player remains Mike Trout. Acuna or Soto are likely "next best player" or maybe it's Vlad etc. But Mike Trout remains the clear best player in baseball and in NY/Boston etc would be a true legend (he's a HOFer either way).
Good stuff  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2021 4:39 pm : link
DMM, plus we're seeing the closest thing to Babe Ruth with Ohtani, I forget the stats and obviously it's early in the season for a state like this to be terribly meaningful but the stats was something like he was the only pitcher to start a game while leading the league in HR's since Babe Ruth in one of his last starts.

Durability has been an issue but he's so fun to watch.
RE: Good stuff  
DanMetroMan : 4/28/2021 4:58 pm : link
In comment 15238050 pjcas18 said:
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DMM, plus we're seeing the closest thing to Babe Ruth with Ohtani, I forget the stats and obviously it's early in the season for a state like this to be terribly meaningful but the stats was something like he was the only pitcher to start a game while leading the league in HR's since Babe Ruth in one of his last starts.

Durability has been an issue but he's so fun to watch.


Ohtani is like something we've never seen before. (Yes, I know people are bristeling at this saying there were Negro league two way superstars), well I wasn't alive to see it, so let me live! (I do think it's very cool MLB is finally shedding a light on some of these Negro league players, some really incredible stuff. I had never heard of Oscar Charleston... some regard him as one of the top 10 greatest baseball players to ever play the sport!

As for Ohtani almost seems like he was created in a lab. He's 17th in the sport in sprint speed! He's very marginally behind guys like Myles Straw and Tim Anderson, 2 legit speedsters, he's 3rd in barrel, only Giancarlo Stanton has hit a ball with a higher exit velocity this season.. oh and as a pitcher he's 8th in velocity (97.2) The Mets have been pretty mediocre but this has been a fun start to the MLB season.
Annnnnd  
Everyone Relax : 4/28/2021 7:02 pm : link
Here we go again
This is really growing tiresome.  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 7:04 pm : link
Definition of insanity.
Well, one of these teams at least knows how to drive  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 7:11 pm : link
in runs. The Mets continue to be embarrassing.
Where do catchers get the authority to constantly ask  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 7:26 pm : link
the first base and third base umpires to call check swing balls or strikes? It’s literally all the fucking time and it’s annoying. Those umpires aren’t even looking for it most of the time IMO.
Getting really hard to watch...  
dannysection 313 : 4/28/2021 7:30 pm : link
I'd say "poor Jake" but I guess that's probably not the right word.

Of the 155 innings on offense, there have been only three innings where this team has scored more than two runs in an inning.

Three runs twice, four runs once.

I mean, who's the batting coach?

Lindor with  
Everyone Relax : 4/28/2021 7:41 pm : link
the best AB so far. Knocked out the ump who was calling an awful game. I kid I kid, I wish harm on no one
Lindor hearing the boos...  
moze1021 : 4/28/2021 7:52 pm : link
He deserves it...

Said it in the other thread...Trout, Acuna, Guerrero, Tatis, Harper all off to great starts...and our guy who is supposed to be on their level has been flat out bad at the plate... He doesn't even look good up there.

I know it's still early but he's starting to dig a hole that's going to be tough to get it of .. an MVP type season probably already gone.
Eh, I’m not about the boos. Hate to see it so early in the season  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 8:02 pm : link
with your star acquisition. Lindor will get it going.

The problem is that with a 9 hitter lineup that already includes an automatic out with the pitcher, the Mets have 5 or 6 hitters that are completely lost. Every single game. I get that players across the league get off to slow starts. But I’m willing to bet that it’s not almost the entire lineup for those teams.

There’s too much talent to not turn it around, but this is such a waste of good pitching and taking advantage what they are giving you. Such a letdown to the start of the year. And we are almost a month into it.
Do we have a new hitting coach this year?  
BigBlueNH : 4/28/2021 8:07 pm : link
It was Chili Davis last year, right? I really hope this is just bad luck and that coaching is not a contributing factor.
1 hit against who?  
Everyone Relax : 4/28/2021 8:26 pm : link
Pivetta?? These games are brutal because I love watching degrom pitch and can’t stand watching the Mets at the plate
One hit?  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2021 8:27 pm : link
that's all we got? One goddamn Hit?

...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 4/28/2021 8:32 pm : link
Cousin, big Mets fan, texts me...'deGrom on mound dealing. Offense doing nothing. Tell me if I haven't texted you this a million times.'
Oof Matz  
Everyone Relax : 4/28/2021 8:43 pm : link
With a Matz-like start against the Nats when we needed him
Lindor  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2021 8:47 pm : link
needs a day or two off, seems like he's pressing, trying to earn a 340M contract every at bat.
RE: Lindor  
moze1021 : 4/28/2021 8:53 pm : link
In comment 15238681 pjcas18 said:
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needs a day or two off, seems like he's pressing, trying to earn a 340M contract every at bat.


They just had a day off!! Lol...

It really is depressing watching this. A lot of times you FEEL like your team can't hit and truth is the numbers are better than you think .. but this Mets team is truly at the bottom of the league for everything...

I know we keep saying it has to turn around but.. Sheesh... Does it?
Bring back  
Everyone Relax : 4/28/2021 8:57 pm : link
the Wilpons!
RE: RE: Lindor  
pjcas18 : 4/28/2021 8:58 pm : link
In comment 15238699 moze1021 said:
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In comment 15238681 pjcas18 said:


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needs a day or two off, seems like he's pressing, trying to earn a 340M contract every at bat.



They just had a day off!! Lol...

It really is depressing watching this. A lot of times you FEEL like your team can't hit and truth is the numbers are better than you think .. but this Mets team is truly at the bottom of the league for everything...

I know we keep saying it has to turn around but.. Sheesh... Does it?


I don't mean a "day off' it's April 28th and the Mets had a shitload of rain outs and COVID cancellations - by "day or two off" I mean a game or two on the bench.
They should  
Everyone Relax : 4/28/2021 9:00 pm : link
Honestly just have the alternate site team play a game. They can at least back into a run right?
RE: Oof Matz  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 9:01 pm : link
In comment 15238669 Everyone Relax said:
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With a Matz-like start against the Nats when we needed him


Lol, Matz continues to suck for the Mets even when he’s not on the team. Pitches like a stud the first four games until he faces the Nats. You just can’t make this shit up.
Yeah might do him good...can't hurt!!  
moze1021 : 4/28/2021 9:02 pm : link
The scary thing is he is now in a stretch of over 100 games of being an average to slightly below average hitter...

That is a looong slump for a guy who is supposed to be Top 10 player in the game, Covid or no Covid.
They should boo Sandy not Lindor  
Vanzetti : 4/28/2021 9:07 pm : link
Sandy is the one who gave him the ridiculous contract. What’s Lindor supposed to say, “I’ have s career OPS+ of 116. No way am I worth
The same as Tatis.”
RE: They should boo Sandy not Lindor  
moze1021 : 4/28/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15238732 Vanzetti said:
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Sandy is the one who gave him the ridiculous contract. What’s Lindor supposed to say, “I’ have s career OPS+ of 116. No way am I worth
The same as Tatis.”


If he had a 116 OPS+ right now no one would be booing and Mets would probably have a couple more wins
It was nice  
Pete in MD : 4/28/2021 9:22 pm : link
they recognized Jerry Blevins in the crowd. He wasn’t a Met for very long but seems like a good person.
Unreal  
Mike in NY : 4/28/2021 9:31 pm : link
How we squander DeGrom’s starts. I swear it is like watching the Islanders. Holding opponent to 1 might as well be 10 if you can’t score 2.
This team is just absolutely lost  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 9:35 pm : link
Mets baseball baby!
Mr. Cohen  
Hilary : 4/28/2021 9:39 pm : link
A lot of money for not much hitting. Very unwatchable team. Bye - bye Sandy.
You have to wonder about the approach and coaching  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 9:41 pm : link
Dom normally crushes off speed pitching - this season so far hitting .030
McNeil is one of the best pure hitters in baseball - this offseason he bulked up and pt on more muscle.
Lindor - one of the best players in the game until this season
Conforto? You got me on that one.

Sure, maybe it’s still early. Totally could be. But all of these guys absolutely sucking all year at the same time? Very odd and likely improbable.
Can’t get  
Pete in MD : 4/28/2021 9:41 pm : link
hits off of Nick Piveta? Really need to change something up.
Please - this isn’t Sandy’s fault. He can’t hit for the players too.  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 9:44 pm : link
These are all proven, elite offensive players. They will hit eventually. I’m just curious if something has changed with the team approach.
Last year Chili Davis was at home because of Covid  
BocaGene : 4/28/2021 9:49 pm : link
and the #2 batting coach took over for practice & during game and the Mets hit .270+ as a team.

This year, Chili is here...coincidence, I don't know but the results are so startling different.
Disappointing start to the season  
moespree : 4/28/2021 9:49 pm : link
Zapped most of the good energy the offseason brought, at least for me it did. I suddenly have the exact same feelings I have all the previous years.

The good news is they really can't do much worse. So, even just 1 guy turning it around on offense will help them.
2 measly singles, 15 strike outs  
BigBlueNH : 4/28/2021 9:52 pm : link
at Home, against a line-up of thoroughly mediocre, non-strikeout pitchers. Hard to believe, harder to watch.
Oh and another thought - this is now a minimum of 3 losses  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 9:55 pm : link
because we have poor defensive players in their unnatural positions (JD and Dom). The ball that Dom couldn’t catch earlier in the game - sure, it was a tough play, but he was there and I feel that even an average fielder would have caught it. Even McNeil, Conforto and Luis have cost us on the defensive end.

Point is, our defense has cost us quite a bit of wins so far to start the season.
RE: Last year Chili Davis was at home because of Covid  
CooperDash : 4/28/2021 9:57 pm : link
In comment 15238821 BocaGene said:
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and the #2 batting coach took over for practice & during game and the Mets hit .270+ as a team.

This year, Chili is here...coincidence, I don't know but the results are so startling different.


This is a really good point that shouldn’t be overlooked.
these losses really aren't on the defense  
CMicks3110 : 4/28/2021 10:07 pm : link
I think they are much improved this year by and large. McCann and Lindor have made a big difference, Pete has improved, and Nimmo has improved. Conforto has regressed, and JD is well, JD. But you can really see the analytics in play, there have been a lot of balls hit right at our defenders, more than I can ever remember.
Jesus fucking Christ  
CooperDash : 4/30/2021 8:08 pm : link
Will this team ever wake the fuck up on offense? Or does Chili Davis have no fucking clue what he’s doing? Just bring back the backup hitting coach from last season.
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