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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/29/2021 6:55 pm
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RE: I am ok with that  
jnoble : 4/29/2021 10:51 pm : link
In comment 15243148 jvm52106 said:
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as he is a multi level threat guy. The bitching and whining here is pathetic. Toney is a guy who actually can make SS expendable and provide some serious ball in the hands threat.


Shepard is one more concussion away from retiring anyway
A trade-up from 42 to the end of the first  
81_Great_Dane : 4/29/2021 10:51 pm : link
to get that Edge would make a lot of sense.
I just can't understand this move  
Southern Man : 4/29/2021 10:51 pm : link
I could have justified many others
RE: Also, interesting that they picked a guy with issues  
crick n NC : 4/29/2021 10:51 pm : link
In comment 15243151 Ten Ton Hammer said:
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to put a dent in the culture narrative.


I disagree with your take on culture. Players that buy in to the team create a good culture.
Kadarius  
M.S. : 4/29/2021 10:51 pm : link

Nice player.

Better than Elijah Moore?
This team  
dlauster : 4/29/2021 10:52 pm : link
has gotta score points. I'm glad they got a weapon. Im going to trust that someone did their homework and look forward to watching some more end zone dances in 2021.
RE: Now, please let Joe Tryon last till 42!  
Johnny5 : 4/29/2021 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15243137 Greg from LI said:
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That would make me happy
RE: Sy  
section125 : 4/29/2021 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15243082 illmatic said:
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wasn’t exactly glowing in his write up about Toney. Don’t know how to feel about this. Feels like they reached for an offensive playmaker.


Just reread Sy's write up and it seems pretty contradictory if you read both paragraphs...

I bet Judge wanted him That is not a DG player.
RE: RE: Gettleman gonna  
GMen72 : 4/29/2021 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15243135 Mike in NY said:
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Gettleman. Could've got Toney in the 2nd. Gettleman needs to go work for the Raiders.



Toney was not falling that far


Still a reach. Like the trade...not liking the pick.
RE: does Toney have  
Angel Eyes : 4/29/2021 10:52 pm : link
In comment 15243105 Giantsfan79 said:
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the ability to return kicks/punts?

Speaking of which, who do we have on the roster as a return man?
Oy vey...  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2021 10:52 pm : link
WTF?
RE: RE: Sy is not a fan of Toney  
Bricktop : 4/29/2021 10:52 pm : link
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for what that's worth. Sure hope he is wrong.



Me either.


He was an Alabama recruit, so there's a bit of a connection.

My guy in Minneapolis said this is stubborn and wanting out of need rather than bpa.

He's repped some of my former teammates, so we have some history, and is a senior dude now. He had Paye.

Tells us a lot about the investment in Jones.
Damn it, there’s go Paye!  
Simms11 : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
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RE: Drops?  
section125 : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
In comment 15243103 CT Charlie said:
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Crap. Why not Elijah Moore?? Let's hope they know a lot more than we do, eh?


very small - very small
RE: RE: Don't like the pick ...  
FStubbs : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
In comment 15243125 Zeke's Alibi said:
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... but we got the Bears 2022 1st rounder from it, so we'll see.



Yeh Jesus we are having people judge this trade here just because they don't like who we took at 20 and we still have a wildcard 1st rounder next year. The Bears have potential to suck. Akiem Hicks makes that D go and he's getting up there and believe started to break down last year.


There's a very good chance that pick ends up being a top 5 pick.
Posted weeks ago he was my favorite player in draft  
averagejoe : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
Never ever thought Giants would take him. The guy looks like an instant playmaker to me. Wanted Smith but this guy looks like a football player.
I love this pick considering the trade down. He's very boom bust  
Zeke's Alibi : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
but we grabbed an extra 1st and we desperately needed an explosive pass catcher.
It wouldn’t be the NFL draft  
illmatic : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
Without someone we wanted being drafted right after the giants pick.
Don't like this  
PatersonPlank : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
I like the 1st next year but I feel there were better selections at #20
Walker Little  
GMen72 : 4/29/2021 10:53 pm : link
in the 2nd! Top 10 talent at OT.
RE: RE: does Toney have  
FStubbs : 4/29/2021 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15243197 Angel Eyes said:
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the ability to return kicks/punts?


Speaking of which, who do we have on the roster as a return man?


Ross I guess.
a Toney  
bc4life : 4/29/2021 10:54 pm : link
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RE: RE: does Toney have  
Giantsfan79 : 4/29/2021 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15243197 Angel Eyes said:
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the ability to return kicks/punts?


Speaking of which, who do we have on the roster as a return man?


no one yet that you actually want to return kicks/punts.
RE: He hayad a terrific week at da seenya bowl  
Greg from LI : 4/29/2021 10:54 pm : link
In comment 15243175 Leg of Theismann said:
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Oh god, another one of those? What is Gettleman's obsession with the Senior Bowl about?
Giants Offense  
Ten Ton Hammer : 4/29/2021 10:55 pm : link
QB: Daniel Jones
WR: Kenny Golladay
WR: Sterling Shepard
WR: Darius Slayton
WR: Kadarius Toney
WR: John Ross
TE: Evan Engram
RB: Saquon Barkley


Jason Garrett:
IND knows how to draft  
Sy'56 : 4/29/2021 10:55 pm : link
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He's shiftier than Moore  
AcesUp : 4/29/2021 10:55 pm : link
But Moore brings that explosive slot element and did it without as much talent around him and doesn't have the character worries. Giants scout WRs well but I don't understand them going there if they went in that direction.
Giants have some bad decison makers in that room  
ghost718 : 4/29/2021 10:55 pm : link
I don't think they're going anywhere
RE: we pass on the best linebacker for this?  
OBJ_AllDay : 4/29/2021 10:56 pm : link
In comment 15243143 Big Daddy said:
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Really?


I know ppl in the Harrisburg area very familiar with the man and his history. We dodged a bullet
RE: Ok, whatever, it's the 20th pick  
Giantsfan79 : 4/29/2021 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15243101 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...Maybe he was overdrafted but who cares. It's not like a sure blue-chipper dropped to them and they passed.


this isn't the 7th round. Overdrafting in the 1st kills teams.
RE: IND knows how to draft  
WillVAB : 4/29/2021 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15243240 Sy'56 said:
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Yep.
RE: RE: RE: does Toney have  
adamg : 4/29/2021 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15243227 Giantsfan79 said:
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the ability to return kicks/punts?


Speaking of which, who do we have on the roster as a return man?



no one yet that you actually want to return kicks/punts.


We have Peppers, Jackson, Ross, and Pettis already. I wouldn't have Toney return kicks. Maybe punts. but I'd save him for offensive snaps.
RE: “inconsistent hands”?  
montanagiant : 4/29/2021 10:57 pm : link
In comment 15243064 Mike in St. Louis said:
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???

During the Senior Bowl when he played with 4 QB's he never played with before.
Idiots in the front office  
Big Daddy : 4/29/2021 10:57 pm : link
Paye should have been the pick.
RE: It wouldn’t be the NFL draft  
ColHowPepper : 4/29/2021 10:57 pm : link
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Without someone we wanted being drafted right[BEFORE AND] after the giants pick.
Hawkman took off  
jvm52106 : 4/29/2021 10:58 pm : link
Giants shirt..
Zero chance a quality edge  
WillVAB : 4/29/2021 10:58 pm : link
Makes it to 43.
RE: Drops?  
jestersdead : 4/29/2021 10:58 pm : link
In comment 15243103 CT Charlie said:
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Crap. Why not Elijah Moore?? Let's hope they know a lot more than we do, eh?


PFF_ College tweeted: 150 targets, 3 drops in his career
Toney seems like a DG pick and not a Judge pick....  
Simms11 : 4/29/2021 10:58 pm : link
Not sure it’s a great reach at 20, but we could of went Edge and gotten better value.
RE: RE: we pass on the best linebacker for this?  
MyNameIsMyName : 4/29/2021 10:59 pm : link
In comment 15243256 OBJ_AllDay said:
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Really?



I know ppl in the Harrisburg area very familiar with the man and his history. We dodged a bullet


Lol, would love to hear the BS you hear
RE: RE: “inconsistent hands”?  
section125 : 4/29/2021 10:59 pm : link
In comment 15243263 montanagiant said:
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During the Senior Bowl when he played with 4 QB's he never played with before.


Yeah, I saw that too. Apparently he did not drop one regular season pass and Sy did not ding his hands at all.
Colts  
AcidTest : 4/29/2021 10:59 pm : link
take Paye.
RE: RE: Sy  
AcidTest : 4/29/2021 11:00 pm : link
In comment 15243193 section125 said:
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wasn’t exactly glowing in his write up about Toney. Don’t know how to feel about this. Feels like they reached for an offensive playmaker.



Just reread Sy's write up and it seems pretty contradictory if you read both paragraphs...

I bet Judge wanted him That is not a DG player.


Agreed. Can't see DG drafting him.
RE: RE: Now, please let Joe Tryon last till 42!  
Optimus-NY : 4/29/2021 11:00 pm : link
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That would make me happy


So would I and a lot of us, which is why it probably won't happen!
Titans take Farley  
Angel Eyes : 4/29/2021 11:01 pm : link
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This place is incredible...  
chopperhatch : 4/29/2021 11:01 pm : link
Toney is a home run threat from anywhere on the field.
RE: Toney seems like a DG pick and not a Judge pick....  
section125 : 4/29/2021 11:02 pm : link
In comment 15243277 Simms11 said:
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Not sure it’s a great reach at 20, but we could of went Edge and gotten better value.


Opposite for me...especially with Paye sitting there. DG normally goes big people.

I would not be surprised to see them go WR later with Nico Collins or Josh Palmer. Cluster draft again.
That was the loneliest “player/family reaction”  
illmatic : 4/29/2021 11:02 pm : link
I’ve ever seen lmao
Don’t Like The Tomey Pick  
Trainmaster : 4/29/2021 11:04 pm : link
Paye or Darrisaw
Can’t believe it  
aGiantGuy : 4/29/2021 11:04 pm : link
This is the player that would almost certainly be on the Saints or the Chiefs, it’s finally our turn for a playmaker. This day couldn’t have gone any better, only thing that would make it better is a Sterling Shepard trade
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