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BamaBlue : 4/30/2021 9:27 am
I just got an email from Roku. They are in a dispute with Google over pricing for the YouTubeTV package and their contract has expired.

Apparently Roku is continuing the service while they work the dispute, but you can't download the app and they can't accept new subscribers. Google can always pull the plug, so who knows... Can't we all just get along?
We've  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2021 9:28 am : link
let Google get too big and powerful. They call the shots now.
So much for cutting the cord...  
BamaBlue : 4/30/2021 9:40 am : link
not much of a cost savings and frequent battles between the platforms and service providers.

Google's size has made it immune to customer service. They don't care... they don't have to care.
are you shitting me?  
Jints in Carolina : 4/30/2021 9:41 am : link
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RE: So much for cutting the cord...  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2021 9:42 am : link
In comment 15244635 BamaBlue said:
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not much of a cost savings and frequent battles between the platforms and service providers.

Google's size has made it immune to customer service. They don't care... they don't have to care.


Not sure I agree with there. We're paying about $11 per month on TV now and haven't missed satellite/cable in over five years.
oh wait  
Jints in Carolina : 4/30/2021 9:44 am : link
as long as I already have the app I can still watch YouTube TV....man I got pissed for a second.
RE: oh wait  
BamaBlue : 4/30/2021 9:50 am : link
In comment 15244663 Jints in Carolina said:
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as long as I already have the app I can still watch YouTube TV....man I got pissed for a second.


Roku is 'allowing' access if you currently have the app and an active account. The email I got from Roku said that they'll continue to provide service as "Google does not take actions to remove it..."
RE: RE: So much for cutting the cord...  
BamaBlue : 4/30/2021 9:52 am : link
In comment 15244647 Eric from BBI said:
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In comment 15244635 BamaBlue said:


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not much of a cost savings and frequent battles between the platforms and service providers.

Google's size has made it immune to customer service. They don't care... they don't have to care.



Not sure I agree with there. We're paying about $11 per month on TV now and haven't missed satellite/cable in over five years.


I'm paying $75 for YTTV with Showtime and another $7 for Discovery+ Not quite my DirecTV bill, but not a huge bargain. And... the price keeps rising.
BamaBlue  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2021 9:57 am : link
I can't imagine that the content on YouTube TV is worth $75. Same with Showtime.
RE: BamaBlue  
BamaBlue : 4/30/2021 10:00 am : link
In comment 15244713 Eric from BBI said:
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I can't imagine that the content on YouTube TV is worth $75. Same with Showtime.


I don't disagree with you there. However, my Wife and a couple of kids would disagree...
RE: We've  
Jim in Fairfax : 4/30/2021 10:08 am : link
In comment 15244573 Eric from BBI said:
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let Google get too big and powerful. They call the shots now.

Roku is pretty powerful in their yard as well. They demand a cut of revenue from stations/streamers to be available on their devices.
Eric  
afann : 4/30/2021 10:18 am : link
What is your set up for your TV? How are you paying $11 a month?
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christian : 4/30/2021 10:26 am : link
YouTube TV has all of the channels I watched on DirecTV, none of the bloat I skipped over. It has fantastic recording and library capabilities. And as a bonus I get the local channels from NY.

I was paying 150 for DirecTV, and I pay $70 for YouTubeTV.

It's the best 70 bucks I spend a month.
RE: Eric  
HomerJones45 : 4/30/2021 10:28 am : link
In comment 15244803 afann said:
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What is your set up for your TV? How are you paying $11 a month?
Digital antenna I am guessing which is a good option if you are near a large metropolitan area.
Google is no weakling  
chuckydee9 : 4/30/2021 10:31 am : link
but Roku in their space is pretty much the bully here.. The good thing is you can just move from youtube tv to something else.. unlike cable where you are stuck with who you have..
Dumped Youtube TV  
antdog24 : 4/30/2021 10:37 am : link
after trialing FuboTV and just liked it better. It has more sports channels and wife wanted the lifetime channels so win win. lol There are a good amount of options out there.
RE: Eric  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2021 10:40 am : link
In comment 15244803 afann said:
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What is your set up for your TV? How are you paying $11 a month?


What Homer said.... we have a HD digital antennae (one-time cost). Get a ton of stations through it but to be honest, we don't even use that all that much (we did for the Draft last night).

We have Roku ($6) and Hulu ($5). I forgot to add AmazonPrime which I think we spend $100 annually on. That's it.

The Roku channels have a ton of content (check out Pluto as one example). I also find myself just watching YouTube content more and more (not YouTube TV). The independent creators on YouTube are just superior (I referenced the Time Ghost Army recently for history content alone).
RE: RE: We've  
Sprintfish : 4/30/2021 10:47 am : link
In comment 15244758 Jim in Fairfax said:
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In comment 15244573 Eric from BBI said:


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let Google get too big and powerful. They call the shots now.


Roku is pretty powerful in their yard as well. They demand a cut of revenue from stations/streamers to be available on their devices.


When Roku and HBOmax were battling, I saw reports that Roku commands about 40% of the gateway to streaming services so they have some real power in whether your streaming service can be viable.
I'd cancel Youtube TV  
moze1021 : 4/30/2021 10:54 am : link
If they remove my access on Roku. No doubt about it.

Roku has all the power for me. I didn't get HBO Max until they got the deal done. I won't sign up to a service without a Roku app...
hmmm,  
LG in NYC : 4/30/2021 11:07 am : link
I have Roku as hardware to stream YTTV, Netflix, etc... but wasn't aware that Roku as an app was worthwhile until reading this thread.

I will have to check it out
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Jints in Carolina : 4/30/2021 11:22 am : link
In comment 15244832 christian said:
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YouTube TV has all of the channels I watched on DirecTV, none of the bloat I skipped over. It has fantastic recording and library capabilities. And as a bonus I get the local channels from NY.

I was paying 150 for DirecTV, and I pay $70 for YouTubeTV.

It's the best 70 bucks I spend a month.


I completely agree. I love YTTV
I guess we now know why Roku stock dropped 30% recently  
Vanzetti : 4/30/2021 11:31 am : link
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RE: We've  
Vanzetti : 4/30/2021 11:33 am : link
In comment 15244573 Eric from BBI said:
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let Google get too big and powerful. They call the shots now.


They are completely integrated into our security apparatus. Hard to limit them.
i have looked at all of these streaming services w/ Live TV option  
LG in NYC : 4/30/2021 11:37 am : link
and obviously specific channels may drive the decision (eg, YES only on ATT Now)... but YTTV is the overall best IMO.

all of the prices have gone higher... when I started YTTV was $39/mo and now it is $65/mo... but Fubo is about that price as is Hulu... and ATT Now is like $80/mo.

YTTV has best interface and the unlimited DVR is a must have.

we get to watch our local TV (though funny enough, we only watch sports & news live) plus all the regular channels that one watches every now and again (BBCA, TNT, ESPN, etc)

will be interesting to see as these services continue to go ala carte and/or get too expensive how far people are willing to go with it.
I wouldn't be too attached to YouTube TV  
eclipz928 : 4/30/2021 11:48 am : link
it's not even the best value streaming service. You could get almost the exact channel lineups on Hulu and Sling for less.

If you're willing to part ways with ESPN, the one Sling package for $30 is probably the best deal, which is what I use on Roku.

Then for the kids I got in early on a 3-year deal on Disney+ ($3.33 a month) and a 1 year deal on Paramount+ ($2.50 a month) which has all the Nickelodeon channels and shows on demand. There are a lot of tv options out there right now.
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christian : 4/30/2021 12:52 pm : link
My old TV world was a $150 a month of DTV + streaming.

My new TV world:

- YTTV as my base: $70
- Netflix HD: $20
- Hulu/Disney/ESPN+: $15
- Philo: $20
- HBO Max: Free (with internet)
- Apple TV Plus: Free (with cell)

I'm awash in great content, with no bloat, for less money.

And as an added bonus I bundled it all up on a Roku TV and shipped it to my old man and gets it too.
my YTTV complaint is  
Alan W : 4/30/2021 1:27 pm : link
their failure to re-negotiate terms with Sinclair for YES and The Tennis Channel -- especially as they had raised the monthly charge not too long before.
RE: We've  
BigBlueinDE : 5/1/2021 11:26 am : link
In comment 15244573 Eric from BBI said:
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let Google get too big and powerful. They call the shots now.


Agreed.
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