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Eric from BBI : Admin : 4/30/2021 6:17 pm
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RE: RE: RE: was that a picture  
Anakim : 4/30/2021 9:10 pm : link
In comment 15246965 Giantsfan79 said:
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of Goodell at McVay's house



It was, indeed



anyone know the story behind that one? I found it sort of creepy


Probably just a joke
OL  
JonC : 4/30/2021 9:11 pm : link
CB, DT
There's nothing more satisfying to me than when we draft the BPA  
Anakim : 4/30/2021 9:11 pm : link
And it happens to be at a position of need. Given the O-Line talent still available, I could easily see that being the case when we pick in the third.
with  
WhoCares : 4/30/2021 9:12 pm : link
Saquon adding to an already strong running game and a 4 additional recieving threats, the Giants have enough to have a balanced attack. If DJ has the goods, there is no excuse. I think he'll be successful.

The only thing that can trip up this attack is if the pass pro isn't good. For this reason, I hope they bolster the line.
It will be Quinn Meinerz  
NJ_GIANTS : 4/30/2021 9:12 pm : link
DG loves the senior bowl and this guy played G & C there.
RE: RE: RE: So many good OL prospects available:  
Leg of Theismann : 4/30/2021 9:14 pm : link
In comment 15246964 Anakim said:
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IOL Creed Humphrey - Oklahoma
G Trey Smith - Tennessee
OL Jalen Mayfield - Michigan
G Ben Cleveland - Georgia
G Wyatt Davis - Ohio State
IOL Quinn Meiner - Wisconsin Whitewater
OL Brady Christensen - BYU



At least one of those guys will be there when we pick in the third round. Humphrey and Smith are the clear-best on the list, IMO.



Exactly what I'm referring to here. can get 2 of these guys possibly over the 3rd and 4th. Or if not the 4th, we can get Deonte Brown in the 4th. I think he could be great because he's like 370 lbs and acts as just a huge plug in the middle to stop the pass rush. Can't allow pass rush right up the middle anymore.



Brown offers NO mobility though. I mean he's not getting to the second level. Sure, he could block out the Sun and he's the epitome of the "Planet Theory" but I prefer my O-Linemen to at least have SOME athleticism and mobility.


2 reasons I think of Brown are 1) the Alabama connection, 2) because he's coming in as depth, not to start. If your starting guard on either side gets hurt and you have to go to the well, the main you think you want to make sure of is that they're not going to let pass rushers through every single play. I agree he isn't ideal for run blocking, but I just feel like when it comes to specifically DEPTH I think a high-floor on pass protection is more important than a high-floor on run blocking. We could also get him in the 5th, because I do think he's going to fall for the reasons you mentioned. There are worse things that can happen than getting a serviceable backup guard in the 5th.
if Pete Werner is there I'd pick him  
Eric on Li : 4/30/2021 9:15 pm : link
also wouldn't have any issue doubling up with Ossai too. Then grab an OL in the 4th.
RE: I don’t like that there were concerns that it was  
GFAN52 : 4/30/2021 9:17 pm : link
In comment 15246781 SomeFan said:
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a degenerative knee issue


JonC was not in favor of him because of this.
Who the heck  
Semipro Lineman : 4/30/2021 9:17 pm : link
told her it was a cheerleader tryout
Saints  
AcidTest : 4/30/2021 9:18 pm : link
take Werner.
RE: It will be Quinn Meinerz  
AcesUp : 4/30/2021 9:19 pm : link
In comment 15246979 NJ_GIANTS said:
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DG loves the senior bowl and this guy played G & C there.


We've definitely been Senior Bowl heavy in our picks recently. Toney a Senior Bowl guy too. This is a great point.
RE: if Pete Werner is there I'd pick him  
sec308 : 4/30/2021 9:20 pm : link
In comment 15246986 Eric on Li said:
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also wouldn't have any issue doubling up with Ossai too. Then grab an OL in the 4th.


Well Werner is gone, but I would go with Ossai as well. Save Olineman for next year.
RE: RE: It will be Quinn Meinerz  
Leg of Theismann : 4/30/2021 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15247002 AcesUp said:
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DG loves the senior bowl and this guy played G & C there.



We've definitely been Senior Bowl heavy in our picks recently. Toney a Senior Bowl guy too. This is a great point.


I would love Meinerz but we still have like 15 picks to go. A lot of these "Best Available" guys we're looking at at this moment are going to be gone.
RE: RE: I don’t like that there were concerns that it was  
chopperhatch : 4/30/2021 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15246994 GFAN52 said:
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a degenerative knee issue



JonC was not in favor of him because of this.


In the 1st, yes thats a problem. In the 2nd, a different story if just ACL and Andrews gave the nod.

We might have stolen the draft with the first 2 picks plus the compensation for dropping down.
Basham  
AcidTest : 4/30/2021 9:22 pm : link
to the Bllls. Preferred him to Ojulari.
Add 3 additional players to the list  
Rick in Dallas : 4/30/2021 9:22 pm : link
Alim McNeill
Daviyon Nixon
Paulson Adebo
RE: if Pete Werner is there I'd pick him  
Jay on the Island : 4/30/2021 9:22 pm : link
In comment 15246986 Eric on Li said:
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also wouldn't have any issue doubling up with Ossai too. Then grab an OL in the 4th.

I would have no problem if the Giants took Ossai in round 3. Ojulari helps but they could always use more pass rushers.
Shes got a mask on,  
chopperhatch : 4/30/2021 9:23 pm : link
But Saints chick looks pretty hot!
bills took basham  
ArcadeSlumlord : 4/30/2021 9:23 pm : link
:-(
Goodell you pussy  
chopperhatch : 4/30/2021 9:23 pm : link
....
RE: Basham  
81_Great_Dane : 4/30/2021 9:24 pm : link
In comment 15247009 AcidTest said:
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to the Bllls. Preferred him to Ojulari.
They took Rousseau, too. Guess they are damn serious about getting a pass rush.
RE: Basham  
Angel Eyes : 4/30/2021 9:24 pm : link
In comment 15247009 AcidTest said:
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to the Bllls. Preferred him to Ojulari.

Same here. Ojulari’s knees concern me and he’s a light guy who might get overpowered by tackles. Still looking for the next Michael Strahan.
got to give  
Giantsfan79 : 4/30/2021 9:24 pm : link
the Bills some props on how they are building their program.
RE: RE: RE: It will be Quinn Meinerz  
AcesUp : 4/30/2021 9:25 pm : link
In comment 15247006 Leg of Theismann said:
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DG loves the senior bowl and this guy played G & C there.



We've definitely been Senior Bowl heavy in our picks recently. Toney a Senior Bowl guy too. This is a great point.



I would love Meinerz but we still have like 15 picks to go. A lot of these "Best Available" guys we're looking at at this moment are going to be gone.


I'm sure a few come off the board, wouldn't be shocked if there's a little run at that position either but the Giants should have options there and at other positions. Teams have their own lists and priorities, so not every one of those 15 picks will be guys that the Giants would be targeting or guys on a fan board radar. We saw it in the trade down, Ojulari and JOK were both on the board when nobody would have faulted you for saying that both would be gone by then.
RE: got to give  
ArcadeSlumlord : 4/30/2021 9:26 pm : link
In comment 15247024 Giantsfan79 said:
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the Bills some props on how they are building their program.


dynasty?
draft another QB  
Giantsfan79 : 4/30/2021 9:26 pm : link
GB
Are Humphrey  
UberAlias : 4/30/2021 9:27 pm : link
And Davis still available? I’ve been away for a bit.
Humphrey  
AcidTest : 4/30/2021 9:27 pm : link
to the Chiefs.
If NYG wants a 2-gap DT  
Sy'56 : 4/30/2021 9:27 pm : link
Alim McNeill
RE: RE: got to give  
Giantsfan79 : 4/30/2021 9:27 pm : link
In comment 15247028 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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the Bills some props on how they are building their program.



dynasty?


way too early for that label but I'd put them on my short-list of teams who should be damned good for the next 5 years.
Chiefs  
AcesUp : 4/30/2021 9:27 pm : link
not messing around on the OL, they know what lost them the Super Bowl.
The Chiefs  
Leg of Theismann : 4/30/2021 9:27 pm : link
are good at this.
Well, fuck  
Anakim : 4/30/2021 9:28 pm : link
Alright. My eyes are set on Trey Smith or Baron Browning
Here comes the ol run  
NJ_GIANTS : 4/30/2021 9:28 pm : link
Hope some are there
Well that answers  
UberAlias : 4/30/2021 9:28 pm : link
One question, lol
Still  
Jon in NYC : 4/30/2021 9:29 pm : link
plenty of picks to go but give me Quinn Meinerz
Don’t know if their gone  
Joe Beckwith : 4/30/2021 9:29 pm : link
But I want Spencer Brown or Trey Smith in the 3rd rd.

AND: Just for Ghits and shiggles, can we trade EE and our 4th for a 2nd next year? That single 2nd rounder looks lonely.
RE: Still  
Jon in NYC : 4/30/2021 9:30 pm : link
In comment 15247047 Jon in NYC said:
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plenty of picks to go but give me Quinn Meinerz


Or Wyatt Davis
My best remaining  
Mike in NY : 4/30/2021 9:31 pm : link
Quinn Meinerz
Milton Williams
Elijah Molden
Joseph Ossai
Andre Cisco
10 more picks  
Simms11 : 4/30/2021 9:32 pm : link
Oline next please!
What  
AcidTest : 4/30/2021 9:33 pm : link
the hell is going on with MGK?
Saquan is not a power runner  
Ike#88 : 4/30/2021 9:33 pm : link
he got hurt trying to avoid contact on the edge and was twisted. People thinking he is going to save the day are crazy. NFL RB's that can take contact and keep going are not what he is. Sending him out as a receiver may be his best use.
....  
BleedBlue : 4/30/2021 9:33 pm : link
Ossai
W davis
Ben cleveland
Dylan moses(prob wait til 4th)

My top 3
RE: Still  
jeff57 : 4/30/2021 9:34 pm : link
In comment 15247047 Jon in NYC said:
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plenty of picks to go but give me Quinn Meinerz


Yes. Or Davis, Smith or Kendrick Green
Trask sucks  
Anakim : 4/30/2021 9:35 pm : link
.
Carter for me  
Bill L : 4/30/2021 9:35 pm : link
Oline in the 4th
I guess Rosen...  
bw in dc : 4/30/2021 9:36 pm : link
will need another new home now.
RE: Saquan is not a power runner  
Brown_Hornet : 4/30/2021 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15247069 Ike#88 said:
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he got hurt trying to avoid contact on the edge and was twisted. People thinking he is going to save the day are crazy. NFL RB's that can take contact and keep going are not what he is. Sending him out as a receiver may be his best use.
just stop
Wyatt Davis  
Chris684 : 4/30/2021 9:37 pm : link
Ben Cleveland or Trey Smith
RE: Trask sucks  
j_rud : 4/30/2021 9:37 pm : link
In comment 15247075 Anakim said:
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Trask looks lime the actor theyd cast to play Tim Tebow in a hallmark movie where a simple country boy shows a busy city girl the meaning of Christmas.
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