I think they might look to go corner. JonC recently said they arent happy with Holmes in the slot, and the thread today on McKinney really highlighted the drop off in Holmes snap counts.
Great call by this handsome sonofabitch right here...
some actually projected him to go kind of high today-- like mid-2nd round of the players were left beginning of the day.
Also-- he's specifically a slot corner. I like that. That's very forward-thinking. You're defense literally only as good as your nickel and/or dime back in today's NFL.
20 pass break ups! Our secondary is completely SICK! Defense is also looking solid. I really like the make up of this team. Oline still a bit of a mystery. We have to hope they take a step forward this year.
Didn't one of the asshats mention Trai Turner? Maybe they have a plan.
But this guy looks like an interesting slot corner. I thought Holmes was solid last year though so not sure if this was a need. Apparently the coaching staff didn't see it the same way.
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
gave up a fifth round pick to move up five spots? Too much.
71 is worth 235
76 worth 210
164 worth 24.2
Seems fair to me
It still seems like a little too much.
The hit rate on 5th round picks is so low. I think they absolutely were sure someone in our division was going to take Robinson. If they think they need another guy who can cover and they think he's one of the last guys available who will be ready to cover the slot Day 1 then I can't argue with giving up a 5th for that.
Didn't one of the asshats mention Trai Turner? Maybe they have a plan.
But this guy looks like an interesting slot corner. I thought Holmes was solid last year though so not sure if this was a need. Apparently the coaching staff didn't see it the same way.
i think we're allowed to have more then one guy who can play in the slot at a time but it's been so long i can't remember
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
There are serious questions along the interior OL and the DL is paper thin beyond 21. I don’t think it was smart to burn the pick on a niche player given who was available.
Our secondary was playing well, our defense was sick. Always smart to strengthen the secondary.
Exactly. Can't have enough guys who can just straight up cover someone. Especially since we're solid on the outside at corner, covering the slot is a different skill and that's what this kid can do. Think of all the no-name slot receivers who have absolutely killed the Giants over the years! I don't think our problem has ever been "we have way too many guys who can cover" lol.
Dallas needs more than 1 CB in their depleted secondary
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
There are serious questions along the interior OL and the DL is paper thin beyond 21. I don’t think it was smart to burn the pick on a niche player given who was available.
DL isn't in too bad of shape. Williams, Lawrence, Shelton, Johnson, Hill and possibly McIntosh/Speaks on the roster. With alot of the nickel looks, only 1 or 2 of those guys will be on the field at times. (If the plan is to rush Odenigbo from inside)
The "obsession" with Dallas is that they are the favorites to win the division with Dak back. The Giants need to set up their defense to deal with the offensive firepower at WR the Cowboys have.
for us to trade into the end of the 3rd round to grab an IOL.
Or they might just wait, but I think they'll def take an IOL next. I think between DG's confidence in himself to find "hog mollies" late and Judge's Belchick-esque draft tendencies I could see us just waiting and getting a couple solid OL in rounds 4 and 6.
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
There are serious questions along the interior OL and the DL is paper thin beyond 21. I don’t think it was smart to burn the pick on a niche player given who was available.
DL isn't in too bad of shape. Williams, Lawrence, Shelton, Johnson, Hill and possibly McIntosh/Speaks on the roster. With alot of the nickel looks, only 1 or 2 of those guys will be on the field at times. (If the plan is to rush Odenigbo from inside)
Look at most of the names you listed and their contracts. The Giants aren’t going to be spending much next year.
I think they might look to go corner. JonC recently said they arent happy with Holmes in the slot, and the thread today on McKinney really highlighted the drop off in Holmes snap counts.
Great call by this handsome sonofabitch right here...
Also-- he's specifically a slot corner. I like that. That's very forward-thinking. You're defense literally only as good as your nickel and/or dime back in today's NFL.
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Giants just traded up to 71 and drafted Central Florida CB Aaron Robinson, per source
Ew fucking trash. Our OL isngoing to be our achilles heal
DumbAss, Sy has him as the #6 CB in the draft...
Cowboys and Eagles have been targeting secondary help supposedly and getting snaked.
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gave up a fifth round pick to move up five spots? Too much.
71 is worth 235
76 worth 210
164 worth 24.2
Seems fair to me
It still seems like a little too much.
How could we have had a remaining 3rd round pick? Did you think we trade a 5th for a 3rd straight up?
whoever they drafted wasn't going to be starting over anyone they currently already have. whats the big deal?
Agreed. I think Giants had intel a few teams in front of them might take him and run on corners.
Didn't one of the asshats mention Trai Turner? Maybe they have a plan.
But this guy looks like an interesting slot corner. I thought Holmes was solid last year though so not sure if this was a need. Apparently the coaching staff didn't see it the same way.
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Giants just traded up to 71 and drafted Central Florida CB Aaron Robinson, per source
Ew fucking trash. Our OL isngoing to be our achilles heal
DumbAss, Sy has him as the #6 CB in the draft...
And sy is god? Sy said rosen was a lock.
Sorry but we drsfted a nickel corner qho MAY play and we have serious questions along OLine
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
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gave up a fifth round pick to move up five spots? Too much.
71 is worth 235
76 worth 210
164 worth 24.2
Seems fair to me
It still seems like a little too much.
The hit rate on 5th round picks is so low. I think they absolutely were sure someone in our division was going to take Robinson. If they think they need another guy who can cover and they think he's one of the last guys available who will be ready to cover the slot Day 1 then I can't argue with giving up a 5th for that.
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3rd rd pick?
How could we have had a remaining 3rd round pick? Did you think we trade a 5th for a 3rd straight up?
I was trying to figure out ESPN site, they were showing we had two 3s for a minute, guess they were just still updating it
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And yet we get a cb to sit behind 4 cbs
Didn't one of the asshats mention Trai Turner? Maybe they have a plan.
But this guy looks like an interesting slot corner. I thought Holmes was solid last year though so not sure if this was a need. Apparently the coaching staff didn't see it the same way.
i think we're allowed to have more then one guy who can play in the slot at a time but it's been so long i can't remember
That’s who I wanted :(
Dallas will go DT or S with this next selection.
6.90 3 cone
4.31 SS
Nickle corner ranked number 11 CB by Brugler
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Sick of wasting picks on corners.
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
There are serious questions along the interior OL and the DL is paper thin beyond 21. I don’t think it was smart to burn the pick on a niche player given who was available.
Dallas will go DT or S with this next selection.
What’s your obsession with Giants? All Cowboys boards told you to scram?
Exactly. Can't have enough guys who can just straight up cover someone. Especially since we're solid on the outside at corner, covering the slot is a different skill and that's what this kid can do. Think of all the no-name slot receivers who have absolutely killed the Giants over the years! I don't think our problem has ever been "we have way too many guys who can cover" lol.
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Sick of wasting picks on corners.
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
There are serious questions along the interior OL and the DL is paper thin beyond 21. I don’t think it was smart to burn the pick on a niche player given who was available.
DL isn't in too bad of shape. Williams, Lawrence, Shelton, Johnson, Hill and possibly McIntosh/Speaks on the roster. With alot of the nickel looks, only 1 or 2 of those guys will be on the field at times. (If the plan is to rush Odenigbo from inside)
Payback, good luck throwing on us, secondary is loaded.
Or they might just wait, but I think they'll def take an IOL next. I think between DG's confidence in himself to find "hog mollies" late and Judge's Belchick-esque draft tendencies I could see us just waiting and getting a couple solid OL in rounds 4 and 6.
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Sick of wasting picks on corners.
Baker and Beal are sunk costs. Love a tweener nicklebacker who is either a Peppers replacement or guy on the wrong end of his rookie deal. There really isn't much there beyond the guys we bought and Holmes who is still a question mark.
There are serious questions along the interior OL and the DL is paper thin beyond 21. I don’t think it was smart to burn the pick on a niche player given who was available.
DL isn't in too bad of shape. Williams, Lawrence, Shelton, Johnson, Hill and possibly McIntosh/Speaks on the roster. With alot of the nickel looks, only 1 or 2 of those guys will be on the field at times. (If the plan is to rush Odenigbo from inside)
Look at most of the names you listed and their contracts. The Giants aren’t going to be spending much next year.
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Dallas just drafted a CB in the 2nd round.
Dallas will go DT or S with this next selection.
What’s your obsession with Giants? All Cowboys boards told you to scram?
No obsession.
Like I have said before, I like to visit opponent sites to get a different point of view.
Having McNeill and Williams go off the board hurts Dallas, not a CB.
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TAKE A FUCKING OL
whoever they drafted wasn't going to be starting over anyone they currently already have. whats the big deal?
Weird to say this less than a year after Lemeiux came out of nowhere to become a starter ahead of Hernandez.
Thank you! Real good to hear
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