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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 11:27 am
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Jets are getting high marks  
ryanmkeane : 5/1/2021 11:36 am : link
for their work so far and they have a ton of picks today
Would love to see Michael  
eric2425ny : 5/1/2021 11:38 am : link
Carter or Stevenson in round 4. Need that third back.
More Senior Bowl players?  
AdamBrag : 5/1/2021 11:41 am : link
It seems the Giants valued in-person senior bowl interviews a lot. Here are some of the senior bowl guys that could interest the Giants today:

Rhamondre Stevenson, RB, Oklahoma
Taquan Graham, DL, Texas
Marvin Wilson, DL, FSU
Cam Sample, DL, Tulane
Derrick Barnes, LB, Purdue
Charles Snowden, LB, UVA
Trey Smith, OG, Tennessee
Trey Smith, man  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 11:43 am : link
BPA and a position of need. Perfect marriage.
JonC  
ryanmkeane : 5/1/2021 11:43 am : link
mentioned a blood clot issue with Smith. Perhaps the reason he’s slipping?
I’m also wondering if we use one of the 6th rounders  
ryanmkeane : 5/1/2021 11:46 am : link
to move back and get a couple of 7ths. Anytime you can get 1 more shot at the dart board the better
Smith Carter Houston or Cox  
UberAlias : 5/1/2021 11:46 am : link
Would be nice.
RE: JonC  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 11:47 am : link
In comment 15248303 ryanmkeane said:
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mentioned a blood clot issue with Smith. Perhaps the reason he’s slipping?


He has a history of blood clots in his lungs (had it twice), but apparently he's 100% healthy (played every game the last two years) and there doesn't seem to be any indication that it'll be a future problem.



Then again, I'm not a doctor
RE: I’m also wondering if we use one of the 6th rounders  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 11:48 am : link
In comment 15248312 ryanmkeane said:
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to move back and get a couple of 7ths. Anytime you can get 1 more shot at the dart board the better


True, but not having a 7th rounder gives you extra time to recruit potential UDFAs
RE: RE: JonC  
robbieballs2003 : 5/1/2021 11:48 am : link
In comment 15248317 Anakim said:
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mentioned a blood clot issue with Smith. Perhaps the reason he’s slipping?



He has a history of blood clots in his lungs (had it twice), but apparently he's 100% healthy (played every game the last two years) and there doesn't seem to be any indication that it'll be a future problem.



Then again, I'm not a doctor


That's pretty scary.
Ha, anyone see this quote?  
santacruzom : 5/1/2021 11:50 am : link
Levi Onwuzurike, with an all-timer of a quote: "I like fucking people up. I like to get off the line and just put my helmet or my hands on an offensive lineman and fuck up an offensive scheme, pretty much. I like pushing 'em back 2, 3 yards and just making 'em feel like shit."
RE: RE: RE: JonC  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 11:52 am : link
In comment 15248321 robbieballs2003 said:
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In comment 15248303 ryanmkeane said:


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mentioned a blood clot issue with Smith. Perhaps the reason he’s slipping?



He has a history of blood clots in his lungs (had it twice), but apparently he's 100% healthy (played every game the last two years) and there doesn't seem to be any indication that it'll be a future problem.



Then again, I'm not a doctor



That's pretty scary.


Yeah, it is. He had to sit out some of his sophomore year (IIRC), but I believe he made it his mission to be around the team and at least practice. He's an exceptional kid, who Pruitt loves.
Smith  
AcidTest : 5/1/2021 11:53 am : link
is undoubtedly slipping because of his blood clots. Ian Rapoport reported on the NFL Network that Cox recently had shoulder surgery.

I'd like to see "Trader Dave" trade down again and get at least one more pick. There is some real talent left on the board, and we have poor depth at a number of positions.
RE: Trey Smith, man  
Joe Beckwith : 5/1/2021 11:53 am : link
In comment 15248302 Anakim said:
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BPA and a position of need. Perfect marriage.


If he can get by the first 10 picks, hopefully.
RE: Trey Smith, man  
BestFeature : 5/1/2021 11:55 am : link
In comment 15248302 Anakim said:
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BPA and a position of need. Perfect marriage.


I feel like the Giants rarely get players like that if they dropped significantly. There's probably a reason the Giants haven't drafted him yet.
RE: Jets are getting high marks  
Carson53 : 5/1/2021 11:55 am : link
In comment 15248284 ryanmkeane said:
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for their work so far and they have a ton of picks today
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Have to give them credit, done a nice job so far.
RE: Jets are getting high marks  
ColHowPepper : 5/1/2021 11:57 am : link
In comment 15248284 ryanmkeane said:
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for their work so far and they have a ton of picks today
They deserve them. Getting OVT from USC in 2nd was master stroke; left side of Jets' OL two, massive road grading studs. I understand why Giants went the way they did, I'm just not a believer, yet, in our OL.
And BTW  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 11:59 am : link
Even though Smith had these lung clot issues, he still played last year and started every game. He's a baller on and off the field and he could compete for a starting job here on Day 1.
And can we do what we did yesterday with regard to spoiling picks????  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 12:00 pm : link
Post the link to the tweet, not the actual tweet. For those who want to have the pick spoiled, they can click the link. For those (like me) who don't want the pick to be spoiled, we simply just don't click the link.


I think that's a good compromise.
Eagles have 8 picks still!  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 12:02 pm : link
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DG getting more props on NFL Network....  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 12:03 pm : link
He’s the man this year.
Get me Trey Smith!  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 12:07 pm : link
C'mon, Jints
RE: RE: I’m also wondering if we use one of the 6th rounders  
Giantsfan79 : 5/1/2021 12:08 pm : link
In comment 15248319 Anakim said:
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to move back and get a couple of 7ths. Anytime you can get 1 more shot at the dart board the better



True, but not having a 7th rounder gives you extra time to recruit potential UDFAs


I'd actually rather use the 6th to trade up for players in the 4th or 5th. Why draft a bunch of guys today who get cut at the end of camp v. getting one or two targeted guys early who'll make the roster and then focus on the UDFAs?
Of my board  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2021 12:09 pm : link
RB (Carter and Gainwell), DT Jay Tufele, LB Derrick Barnes probably my best players available
Think we're looking OL at #116  
JonC : 5/1/2021 12:10 pm : link
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Might be another smart move...  
bw in dc : 5/1/2021 12:11 pm : link
to trade back here to start, and potentially add a 5th...
RE: RE: Jets are getting high marks  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2021 12:11 pm : link
In comment 15248345 ColHowPepper said:
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for their work so far and they have a ton of picks today

They deserve them. Getting OVT from USC in 2nd was master stroke; left side of Jets' OL two, massive road grading studs. I understand why Giants went the way they did, I'm just not a believer, yet, in our OL.


You mean their wnd PICK right? Not 2nd round.
Smith, Hudson to name two  
JonC : 5/1/2021 12:11 pm : link
but I don't know about Smith's medical checks.
RE: Smith, Hudson to name two  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15248402 JonC said:
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but I don't know about Smith's medical checks.


Jesus 2ND pick
RE: RE: Jets are getting high marks  
robbieballs2003 : 5/1/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15248345 ColHowPepper said:
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for their work so far and they have a ton of picks today

They deserve them. Getting OVT from USC in 2nd was master stroke; left side of Jets' OL two, massive road grading studs. I understand why Giants went the way they did, I'm just not a believer, yet, in our OL.


Correction. They didn't get AVT in 2nd but rather with their second pick after a trade up. Love the pick for them.
RE: Think we're looking OL at #116  
Klaatu : 5/1/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15248395 JonC said:
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Stop playing with my emotions, you imgrate!
RE: Smith, Hudson to name two  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15248402 JonC said:
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but I don't know about Smith's medical checks.


Jesus 2ND pick
RE: Think we're looking OL at #116  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 12:12 pm : link
In comment 15248395 JonC said:
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Trey Smith. LET'S GOOOO
Still pushing this international garbage?  
Mr. Nickels : 5/1/2021 12:13 pm : link
After covid-19? It's a shame Goodell wasn't ravaged with it.
Blooooood Clot!  
Optimus-NY : 5/1/2021 12:13 pm : link
Trey Smith would have been drafted yesterday if it wasn't for this issue. It'll be interesting to see where he goes. I want him, but this is worrisome.
chop, robbie  
ColHowPepper : 5/1/2021 12:13 pm : link
right, my mistake referring to round
Hudson  
Jon in NYC : 5/1/2021 12:14 pm : link
is interesting. Short arms but a lot of mobility. Almost the opposite of Smith
RE: Smith, Hudson to name two  
UberAlias : 5/1/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15248402 JonC said:
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but I don't know about Smith's medical checks.
Really like them both. Cant speak to medical.
If we go OL  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2021 12:14 pm : link
Drew Dalman is also intriguing

My top guys are going
RE: Blooooood Clot!  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 12:14 pm : link
In comment 15248413 Optimus-NY said:
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Trey Smith would have been drafted yesterday if it wasn't for this issue. It'll be interesting to see where he goes. I want him, but this is worrisome.


Started every game the last two years, including a season during a pandemic. I'm not a doctor, but that speaks volumes.
Jets just drafted their starting RB  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 12:15 pm : link
Haha
Are we done at Edge...  
bw in dc : 5/1/2021 12:15 pm : link
or could Rumph be in the picture today?
Crap  
Boatie Warrant : 5/1/2021 12:15 pm : link
Jets having a very good draft on paper
Good pick by the Jets  
jeff57 : 5/1/2021 12:15 pm : link
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Good pick  
eric2425ny : 5/1/2021 12:15 pm : link
by the Jets
Carter  
AcidTest : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
to the Jets. Great pick.

I'd pass on Smith, at least in the fourth round.
Jets killing it  
UberAlias : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
I hate to say it.
RE: RE: Blooooood Clot!  
chopperhatch : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15248421 Anakim said:
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Trey Smith would have been drafted yesterday if it wasn't for this issue. It'll be interesting to see where he goes. I want him, but this is worrisome.



Started every game the last two years, including a season during a pandemic. I'm not a doctor, but that speaks volumes.



I dont believe you I think you're a doctor.
Smith is absolutely worth the risk at this point  
illmatic : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
in the draft. He hasn’t missed a game in the last two years.
That Carolina team...  
bw in dc : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
was loaded with talent last year on offense.

I'm totally convinced Howell will be a top five pick because he is the straw that stirs that drink...
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