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2021 NFL Draft: 4th-7th Rounds Discussion Thread

Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 11:27 am
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Any special team players that we will focus on  
Giantimistic : 5/1/2021 1:41 pm : link
in the 6th round like a punter?
so right now our top needs are  
Red Right Hand : 5/1/2021 1:44 pm : link
Developmental RB,Guard,Inside linebacker, developmental TE ( staff don't seem sold on Smith). Not terrible.
Still plenty of interesting OL left  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2021 1:45 pm : link
Sadarius Hutcherson
Robert Jones
Tommy Doyle
RE: so right now our top needs are  
Jimmy Googs : 5/1/2021 1:47 pm : link
In comment 15248711 Red Right Hand said:
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Developmental RB,Guard,Inside linebacker, developmental TE ( staff don't seem sold on Smith). Not terrible.


Agree with these
Wonder which Oline will  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 1:50 pm : link
be available in the 6th? I think an Olineman and RB would be great in the 6th.
Of course Dallas drafted Josh Ball.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/1/2021 1:50 pm : link
The domestic violence arrest made him irresistible.
At  
AcidTest : 5/1/2021 1:52 pm : link
this point, I wonder if Trey Smith is drafted.
RE: Of course Dallas drafted Josh Ball.  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15248740 Big Blue Blogger said:
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The domestic violence arrest made him irresistible.



If Rico is right about Parsons (Giants had a really harsh description of his issues), combine that with Joseph's issues, then they are taking some chances.
If the offensive line...  
Brown_Hornet : 5/1/2021 1:56 pm : link
... Is poor this year it's on coach Judge 100%.

However if the offensive line is good this year It's on both coach Judge and DG.
The Bengals have added a lot of talent.  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/1/2021 1:59 pm : link
They actually did what a lot of us thought the Giants would do: WR in round 1, then heavy OL and Edge on day 2.
RE: At  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15248748 AcidTest said:
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this point, I wonder if Trey Smith is drafted.


Good point. Lots of teams passing on him. Giants could take a chance on him in the 6th, I suppose?!
They just interviewed DG on ESPN....  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 2:10 pm : link
Asked him about the top two and where they’re going in next round. Nothing notable, typical DG interview. We drafted a guy from Jawjeeaw!
Brevin  
AcidTest : 5/1/2021 2:13 pm : link
Jordan is a good pick by the Texans.
guys we took 3 offensive lineman last year in the draft  
Rory : 5/1/2021 2:13 pm : link
and found a gem with Nick Gates at center

not to mention a early praised UDFA Kyle Murphy who can play guard and center

all while brining back Nate Solder a experienced veteran LT who can come in and be the swing tackle

I feel pretty good about what DG has already put in place here.

Get a rb and maybe another TE and lets go.
RE: RE: Don't mean to be critical,  
Nomad Crow on the Madison : 5/1/2021 2:17 pm : link
In comment 15248566 ArcadeSlumlord said:
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but I thought we were going to improve our offense.



not to be critical, but did you miss our free agency this off season?


I noticed that we did not upgrade our horrendous OL.
the  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 2:17 pm : link
celebrating in the Jets' war room looks contrived.
Nomad Crow on the Madison  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 2:20 pm : link
Again, you have to factor in the improvement in the first-year players. Solder also now returns as depth. Fulton was a starter with the Texans.

You either believe in the Giants ability to select the linemen they did last year and develop them or you don't. And if you don't, then why would you want to add more offensive linemen? You wouldn't have confidence in their development either.
A few guys stick out like sore thumbs:  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 2:23 pm : link
IOL Trey Smith - Tennessee
ILB Cam McGrone - Michigan
DL Daviyon Nixon - Iowa
LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
WR Tamorrion Terry - Florida State
WR Josh Imatorbhebe - Illinois
CB Shaun Wade - Ohio State
DL Marvin Wilson - Florida State


And a bunch of RBs
RE: A few guys stick out like sore thumbs:  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2021 2:25 pm : link
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IOL Trey Smith - Tennessee
ILB Cam McGrone - Michigan
DL Daviyon Nixon - Iowa
LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
WR Tamorrion Terry - Florida State
WR Josh Imatorbhebe - Illinois
CB Shaun Wade - Ohio State
DL Marvin Wilson - Florida State


And a bunch of RBs


Sadarius Hutcherson and Robert Jones I also like for IOL
Kiper and McShay  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2021 2:27 pm : link
are going at it over scouting kickers like it is a Presidential debate.

This is brutal.
RE: Nomad Crow on the Madison  
Jimmy Googs : 5/1/2021 2:28 pm : link
In comment 15248856 Eric from BBI said:
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Again, you have to factor in the improvement in the first-year players. Solder also now returns as depth. Fulton was a starter with the Texans.

You either believe in the Giants ability to select the linemen they did last year and develop them or you don't. And if you don't, then why would you want to add more offensive linemen? You wouldn't have confidence in their development either.


Ehh, you got to keep pitching...
I just want everyone to know that if we don't  
Jon in NYC : 5/1/2021 2:28 pm : link
draft the 6th rounder I think the Giants should draft everyone should be fired.
RE: Kiper and McShay  
Bill L : 5/1/2021 2:29 pm : link
In comment 15248880 Capt. Don said:
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are going at it over scouting kickers like it is a Presidential debate.

This is brutal.
Reminds me to ask if there are any punters that are worth drafting?
Great point Eric!  
mushroom : 5/1/2021 2:31 pm : link
Most rookie oline struggle in a normal year. If our line was full of seasoned vets and still stunk ,I would be very worried. There is a very good chance at least 4 of the 5 starters will be 2nd year players(at least second year at their position). The chances are they will get better maybe even much much better both as individual players and as a collective unit.
I like the way it looks like the Giants are staying true to their draft board not forcing picks for need.
RE: RE: A few guys stick out like sore thumbs:  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/1/2021 2:31 pm : link
In comment 15248874 Mike in NY said:
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IOL Trey Smith - Tennessee
ILB Cam McGrone - Michigan
DL Daviyon Nixon - Iowa
LB Dylan Moses - Alabama
WR Tamorrion Terry - Florida State
WR Josh Imatorbhebe - Illinois
CB Shaun Wade - Ohio State
DL Marvin Wilson - Florida State


And a bunch of RBs



Sadarius Hutcherson and Robert Jones I also like for IOL

Hutcherson is a true RG, which I'd love to add to this roster, even if it's a developmental prospect.
Looks  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 2:32 pm : link
like the Eagles got a steal in Gainewell.
RE: the  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2021 2:32 pm : link
In comment 15248849 Eric from BBI said:
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celebrating in the Jets' war room looks contrived.


They don't want to look like the Eagles did yesterday.
Perfect player for the Cowboys  
jeff57 : 5/1/2021 2:34 pm : link
Offensive Tackle Josh Ball landed at Butler Comm. College after being removed from FSU after being found responsible for dating violence by a school judicial panel.

There were allegedly 11 instances of violence between himself and his accuser.

If FSU kick you out, you know it’s bad.
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The way Andy Reid just said "Duke"  
j_rud : 5/1/2021 2:50 pm : link
makes me believe that's how he talks describes dropping a deuce. "Nah, no, don't stop the clock, I gotta get to the locker room. Gotta drop a mondo duuuuke"
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Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 2:53 pm : link
In comment 15248897 Capt. Don said:
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celebrating in the Jets' war room looks contrived.



They don't want to look like the Eagles did yesterday.


I missed that. What happened?
RE: RE: RE: the  
Jon in NYC : 5/1/2021 2:55 pm : link
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celebrating in the Jets' war room looks contrived.



They don't want to look like the Eagles did yesterday.



I missed that. What happened?

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Wow  
BleedBlue : 5/1/2021 2:58 pm : link
Is love moses and trey smith in 6th
RE: RE: RE: the  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2021 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15248965 Eric from BBI said:
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celebrating in the Jets' war room looks contrived.



They don't want to look like the Eagles did yesterday.



I missed that. What happened?


Howie Roseman traded back in the 3rd netting them a 6th. Giants jumped them to take Robinson.

Apparently the Eagles Director of Player of pro personnel, Tom Donahue, wanted Robinson and was not on board with the move. Check out the video.


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RE: RE: RE: the  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 2:58 pm : link
In comment 15248965 Eric from BBI said:
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celebrating in the Jets' war room looks contrived.



They don't want to look like the Eagles did yesterday.



I missed that. What happened?


Howie Roseman high-fiving everyone in room and when he got to the Senior Scout, the Scout looked passed and wouldn't shake his hand. I think that's when we jumped them to take the CB.
RE: RE: Pro day  
Leg of Theismann : 5/1/2021 2:59 pm : link
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The 6-foot-7 and 270-pound Smith ran a 4.71 40-yard dash minutes after he wowed the group with a 41.5 inch vertical leap and a 10-foot, 7-inch broad jump.



Still don't understand how a guy with those dimensions can jump like that..unreal.




By the end of this thread. Smith will be 290 lb


This made me laugh LOL
RE: RE: RE: the  
j_rud : 5/1/2021 3:00 pm : link
In comment 15248965 Eric from BBI said:
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celebrating in the Jets' war room looks contrived.



They don't want to look like the Eagles did yesterday.



I missed that. What happened?


A clip of their war room came out yesterday following their 3rd rd pick (DT Milton Williams). Howie Roseman was giving everyone fist bumps and their senior scout, Tom Donahoe, looked less than enthused and led to an awkward exchange. While he clearly wasnt psyched about the pick there was speculation that it had something to do with the Giants taking Robinson.
Here's the clip  
j_rud : 5/1/2021 3:02 pm : link
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Thanks guys  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 3:04 pm : link
I missed that.

This whole fist bump thing in the draft room is cringy to me.
what  
WhoCares : 5/1/2021 3:05 pm : link
happened to our 5th round picks? I heard they traded the pick we received from CHI. But what happened to our 5th rd pick?
RE: what  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2021 3:06 pm : link
In comment 15248995 WhoCares said:
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happened to our 5th round picks? I heard they traded the pick we received from CHI. But what happened to our 5th rd pick?


Leonard Williams deal
RE: what  
BleedBlue : 5/1/2021 3:07 pm : link
In comment 15248995 WhoCares said:
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happened to our 5th round picks? I heard they traded the pick we received from CHI. But what happened to our 5th rd pick?


Leonard williams
The real-life Chargers have done what I wanted to do in the BBI Mock:  
Big Blue Blogger : 5/1/2021 3:08 pm : link
Slater at 13, Samuel at 47, TE, WR, Edge and other needs later as value presents itself. I could have done it if it hadn’t been for those meddling Giants taking Slater at 11.


LAC might have jumped the gun on McKitty, but he’s the developmental TE I took too - albeit much later.
Missing  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 3:09 pm : link
a whole round sucks.
RE: Thanks guys  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2021 3:10 pm : link
In comment 15248992 Eric from BBI said:
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I missed that.

This whole fist bump thing in the draft room is cringy to me.


A friend of mine is pretty close with a the Philly beat writers.

According to them, the people in the Philly FO think he is a bit of a worm. The "football guys" in the FO see him as purely analytics guy always trying to outsmart people. They say it is a pretty toxic atmosphere.
RE: The real-life Chargers have done what I wanted to do in the BBI Mock:  
Mike in NY : 5/1/2021 3:10 pm : link
In comment 15249002 Big Blue Blogger said:
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Slater at 13, Samuel at 47, TE, WR, Edge and other needs later as value presents itself. I could have done it if it hadn’t been for those meddling Giants taking Slater at 11.


LAC might have jumped the gun on McKitty, but he’s the developmental TE I took too - albeit much later.


People gave MadPlaid crap, but Jamin Davis was a 1st Rounder
19 more picks!  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 3:14 pm : link
Ugh
Trey Smith  
Capt. Don : 5/1/2021 3:14 pm : link
Maybe its been discussed but a bunch of credible people had a 3rd round grade on Trey Smith. His medical must've taken him cemetery off team's board. What have I missed? I dont remember any off field issues.
Vikings and Broncos are having great drafts, IMO  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 3:16 pm : link
And I think the Texans have made the most of their picks. Really liked what they did.
RE: Trey Smith  
Anakim : 5/1/2021 3:16 pm : link
In comment 15249016 Capt. Don said:
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Maybe its been discussed but a bunch of credible people had a 3rd round grade on Trey Smith. His medical must've taken him cemetery off team's board. What have I missed? I dont remember any off field issues.


A history of blood clots in his lungs
What’s up with Deonte Brown?  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 3:22 pm : link
Is he worth a shot in the 6th? Alabama guy!
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