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Our 3rd CB pick...why is everyone excited?

NJBlueTuna : 5/1/2021 11:59 am
It seems like eagles were pissed we took him and we used a 5th to move up and get him. He seems like a slot CB and I thought the team was excited about Holmes? Scouting reports seem to say he doesn’t make good on field decisions. What am I missing?
NJBlueTuna  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 12:02 pm : link
You're missing a ton.

(1) Teams need four cornerbacks, especially in this division.

(2) Players get hurt. If Bradberry, Jackson, or Holmes go down, Yiadom or Love are your starting corner (nickel is a starter).

(3) Robinson can play inside or outside.

(4) CB was a big need on this team.
Very high upside,  
Section331 : 5/1/2021 12:02 pm : link
on field mistakes can be coached.
It's a passing league....it's not Holmes or Robinson  
George from PA : 5/1/2021 12:02 pm : link
It's Holmes and Robinson
And why Robinson?  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/1/2021 12:03 pm : link
Because he can play inside or outside. He is an athletic, speedy corner who can press man coverage. He plays with dog in him.
Don’t get me wrong  
NJBlueTuna : 5/1/2021 12:04 pm : link
I want to like the pick i just don’t see why there was buzz around him Re Eagles etc from the few scouting reports I read.

The word from our asshats before the draft...  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/1/2021 12:04 pm : link
...was that the Giants are not too high Holmes or anyone else they had at slot corner.
I can't take the whining.  
TheManUpstairs : 5/1/2021 12:05 pm : link
Guys read one discouraging word on some website somewhere, and they SPRINT here, demanding an explanation for why the Giants didn't draft X or Y instead of the guys they drafted. Put down the fucking Cheetos bag.
RE: I can't take the whining.  
NJBlueTuna : 5/1/2021 12:06 pm : link
In comment 15248375 TheManUpstairs said:
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Guys read one discouraging word on some website somewhere, and they SPRINT here, demanding an explanation for why the Giants didn't draft X or Y instead of the guys they drafted. Put down the fucking Cheetos bag.


Lol. You are probably oblivious to the irony of your post.
RE: The word from our asshats before the draft...  
j_rud : 5/1/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15248373 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...was that the Giants are not too high Holmes or anyone else they had at slot corner.


Yup, JonC slipped that little nugget in last week.
RE: The word from our asshats before the draft...  
sb from NYT Forum : 5/1/2021 12:07 pm : link
In comment 15248373 sb from NYT Forum said:
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...was that the Giants are not too high Holmes or anyone else they had at slot corner.


Also the Jackson deal is essentially a 2 year deal. If Robinson pans out, having a starting CB on a 3rd rounder salary will be huge.
It's a passing league.  
SuperRonJohnson : 5/1/2021 12:07 pm : link
Can't have too many CB's and Safeties. With this group, we can do more press defense. More press defense will elevate our ability to pressure the QB
i keep hearing the phrase "island corner"  
Rory : 5/1/2021 12:09 pm : link
when profiling Robinson. That sounds pretty promising to me.
Star position?  
Finch : 5/1/2021 12:10 pm : link
I heard Gettleman mention Robinson will play the “star”. Anyone know what that means?
its also not our of the realm of possibilities  
mphbullet36 : 5/1/2021 12:10 pm : link
that Robinson beats out Holmes for the starting nickle back spot. He was a much higher rated player this year than Holmes was last year.
3rd round player  
bLiTz 2k : 5/1/2021 12:12 pm : link
has some deficiencies on scouting report?

News at 11.
Thanks  
NJBlueTuna : 5/1/2021 12:14 pm : link
Like I said I wanted to like the pic but I wasn’t familiar with him and what I did find seemed kinda blah on him for similar reasons. We hoping we went OG.
JETs are having a good draft,  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 12:15 pm : link
I hate t say it, but Douglas looks like he knows how to draft. I suppose it’s a little easier though when you have the 2nd pick in each round.
Terrific pick  
JonC : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
!
RE: JETs are having a good draft,  
Simms11 : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15248425 Simms11 said:
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I hate t say it, but Douglas looks like he knows how to draft. I suppose it’s a little easier though when you have the 2nd pick in each round.


Oops wrong thread
RE: JETs are having a good draft,  
NJBlueTuna : 5/1/2021 12:16 pm : link
In comment 15248425 Simms11 said:
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I hate t say it, but Douglas looks like he knows how to draft. I suppose it’s a little easier though when you have the 2nd pick in each round.


They went offense in first 4 rds. 😳
A verstle corner will have more of an impact then a  
edavisiii : 5/1/2021 12:23 pm : link
A backup guard. That's what we would have gotten once the 1st two IOL went. He will play in some packages.
I am reading this post with an empty Cheetos bag in my hand.  
fivehead : 5/1/2021 12:29 pm : link
For real. I feel so ashamed.
RE: I am reading this post with an empty Cheetos bag in my hand.  
NJBlueTuna : 5/1/2021 12:31 pm : link
In comment 15248485 fivehead said:
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For real. I feel so ashamed.


😂
Armari Cooper  
Dankbeerman : 5/1/2021 12:36 pm : link
CD Lamb
Michael Galup
Devonta Smith
Julian Reagor
dallas Godert
Zack Ertz
tery Mclaurin
Curtis Sameul
Dimani Brown
Logan Thomas
Giants can be high on Holmes  
BSIMatt : 5/1/2021 12:41 pm : link
and also let the best man win the nickel cb spot.

We are going to see a lot of Cedee Lamb, Devonta Smith(as well as at Z), and Curtis Samuel the next few years. Getting mismatches on another teams 3rd/nickel cb is a big part of football.

It's interesting, but if I remember correctly, Holmes played mostly outside in college, but was projected as a slot corner because of his physical profile. Robinson actually was designated slot CB in college, and excelled in that area(even pressing from slot, which was acknowledged as rare to see from a CB coming out). Robinson's athleticism suggests he could also fare well on the outside possibly, so we may have gained some more versatility there. When the offense is constantly trying to create mismatches on your secondary depth, I have absolutely no problem loading up. We have the deepest secondary in our division right now, that's a great thing to have going forward. I still think the greatest asset to our 2016 defense was it's ability in coverage(and the cost of losing that ability was no more apparent then when DRC went down in Green Bay and Rodgers/Cobb went to work), we look stronger in that area now than we were back then.
Why did they take a safefy last year  
ghost718 : 5/1/2021 12:42 pm : link
If they're going to bring in Logan Ryan.People will say there was an injury,well yeah,but he came back.They than proceed to give Ryan 3 more years.

It's a part of their current decision making.Just like some of the Reese moves that left you scratching your head.
Somewhere  
darren in pdx : 5/1/2021 12:46 pm : link
ChicagoMarty has a big grin on his face..
Robinson is more than a slot corner  
GiantsLaw : 5/1/2021 12:47 pm : link
He is a man to man specialist. He played over the other teams best WR which sometimes included slot WRs.
Do you think  
GoDeep13 : 5/1/2021 12:51 pm : link
Joe Judge and Patrick Graham would draft a DB that makes bad on field decisions?
Look around the league, and what offenses have turned into  
mfsd : 5/1/2021 12:59 pm : link
then, look at the WRs in our division, much less the NFC

Then, we can see the wisdom in building a defensive roster around a fleet of skilled, versatile DBs
Because SY says he hates his opponents  
Payasdaddy : 5/1/2021 1:13 pm : link
I love that
RE: Don’t get me wrong  
LauderdaleMatty : 5/1/2021 1:19 pm : link
In comment 15248371 NJBlueTuna said:
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I want to like the pick i just don’t see why there was buzz around him Re Eagles etc from the few scouting reports I read.


He was a top tier recruit to Bama . A lot of these kids transfer quick to get on the field faster. . UCF has been a very good teams w NFL talent . I bet if he had an Alabama still to his name still you might be more excited. Maybe he doesn't develop but literally almost every sports site and draft guru types like the pick. Think you are looking to be contrary for very little reason I can see
RE: JETs are having a good draft,  
SirLoinOfBeef : 5/1/2021 1:37 pm : link
In comment 15248425 Simms11 said:
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I hate t say it, but Douglas looks like he knows how to draft. I suppose it’s a little easier though when you have the 2nd pick in each round.


Good for them. I for one wouldn't mind if they actually put together a good product that would make the Giants brass take notice and compete a little in the market.
RE: Armari Cooper  
NYDCBlue : 5/1/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15248508 Dankbeerman said:
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CD Lamb
Michael Galup
Devonta Smith
Julian Reagor
dallas Godert
Zack Ertz
tery Mclaurin
Curtis Sameul
Dimani Brown
Logan Thomas


LOL
I honestly don't think you spelled a single name correctly in this whole list!

Please share some of that dank beer with the rest of us! :)
The only people  
PaulN : 5/1/2021 2:04 pm : link
Left scratching thier heads are the ones that just can't get it. It's okay, just watch in Sunday's.
On  
PaulN : 5/1/2021 2:05 pm : link
Sundays, sorry.
RE: RE: Armari Cooper  
bLiTz 2k : 5/1/2021 2:06 pm : link
In comment 15248720 NYDCBlue said:
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In comment 15248508 Dankbeerman said:


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CD Lamb
Michael Galup
Devonta Smith
Julian Reagor
dallas Godert
Zack Ertz
tery Mclaurin
Curtis Sameul
Dimani Brown
Logan Thomas



LOL
I honestly don't think you spelled a single name correctly in this whole list!

Please share some of that dank beer with the rest of us! :)


Lmao you couldn't do worse if you tried. (It's a good point though!)
Giants  
PaulN : 5/1/2021 2:09 pm : link
Are having the best draft, Jets had the amount of pucks to do damage, with 6 picks and 2 in the 6th round look at the damage we did. If you can't see it then it's useless for anyone to bother abd explain. You don't get it, you will not need to. Just watch on Sunday in the fall and cheer. That is all we need to do, all the other stuff us just our bullshit
Sorry  
PaulN : 5/1/2021 2:12 pm : link
For the mis spellings. No patience to review and correct. I post from my cell phone. My fingers are too fat and I am too impatient to make certain of all my spelling.
SY had him at 79  
giantstock : 5/1/2021 2:27 pm : link
Read his input. A grade 79 is damn good too for a 3rd rd pick.

Secondly, you heard the Giants FA Corner has injury issues. This player can potentially play wide out too.

And he is physical. Physical and not just finesse for a 3rd rd pick that potentially can be a starter is pretty darn good. SO he is potentially physical corner that is the 3rd bets corner on our team and can play both slot and wide out. That's darn good - ofc if he produces. But that's the expectation.

The Giants had a very good draft this year minus the OL.
RE: Sorry  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/1/2021 2:30 pm : link
In comment 15248828 PaulN said:
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For the mis spellings. No patience to review and correct. I post from my cell phone. My fingers are too fat and I am too impatient to make certain of all my spelling.

Hahaha this is the post of the day, a bit of self-reflection from Paul!
RE: Sorry  
bLiTz 2k : 5/1/2021 2:40 pm : link
In comment 15248828 PaulN said:
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For the mis spellings. No patience to review and correct. I post from my cell phone. My fingers are too fat and I am too impatient to make certain of all my spelling.


No apologies necessary, just a bit of ball busting. You make an excellent point nonetheless.
"i've done no research and know nothing about the player"  
SirYesSir : 5/1/2021 3:53 pm : link
but he wasn't rated 1st overall and the giants took him in round three.

I'm not excited. what am I missing? please explain it to me because, again, I don't like to do research...


Still look at the DB's they have  
Mike in Boston : 5/1/2021 11:54 pm : link
That the seem to like:

McKinney
Peppers
Love
Bradberry
Jackson
Ryan
Robinson
Williams
Holmes
Yiadom

These guys won't all make the roster, and that's assuming Beals doesn't count. Now, maybe they aren't as happy with all of them as I think, which some have suggested and I think is quite possible. But it looks to me as if, barring injury in camp, Williams Holmes, Yiadom and Beals are competing for one spot (along with the camp fodder guys)

we're going to draft CBs every year.  
Platos : 5/2/2021 12:06 am : link
get used to it.

these positions are getting picked every year DE and CB
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