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Here's a bombshell from
@CharlesRobinson
, who reports that Aaron Rodgers wants the Packers to fire G.M. Brian Gutekunst.
The GM decides to put out there that there is zero % chance we are trading him. Rodgers comes back with fire the GM or I am not coming back. Clearly fans will side with Rodgers over GM so basically Rodgers called his bluff..
1. How shitty they’ve run the team over the years and 2. That a lot happens behind closed doors that turn relationships on his head.
The packers did this to themselves by keeping McCarthy around so long and then doubled down when they drafted Love and having shitty drafts overall.
The old way of doing things is over. GB, Seattle, Houston are all immediate examples of this.
Taking Love and the AJ Dillon when you have prime Aaron Rodgers was really dumb. Rodgers was the league MVP last year. The Packers don't get nearly enough grief for mismanaging their roster with a HOF qb
I'll take pain in the ass cheese head quarterbacks for a 100 Alex
my point was you should probably make your QB happy. He’s underpaid and almost went to the Super Bowl despite a giant FU from his GM taking Love. There was a time where that worked, and why are seeing why that’s not the case both on the field and off.
It’s an inept front office and Rodgers has been covering it up for years.
They have draft almost all defense in the first round since he has been there. He is the only QB they haven’t gone out of there way to get more help. I mean at some point your QB is going to be pissed you keep taking all Defense or a QB in the first... could you imagine Tom Brady if they did that
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Or show up. Up to you. He's in danger of Tiki Barbering himself IMO. If you want a career post football try not to be a dick
He’s always been a dick. He’s actually well liked off the field. Does a lot for charity and was very well received on jeopardy.
I actually like him in general for the reasons you state. Tiki was very popular then really blew it. Rodgers wants an extension for most likely 30 million per year or more . That is what this is about. But he obviously wants a media/acting career too. The only way something like this gets out is if he has in reps put t it out there. Hence my warning. Tiki looked like he had a very viable post football media career. He blew it. Rodgers IMO needs to be careful here IMO to hear may blow up his post NFL options .
Who can argue really? Brought in a new QB and okay, but there’s a a right way to do that and then there’s the way the Pack did it. They also brought in a very young HC and they didn’t help. At least according to Lombardi.
Maybe Getty can send those two 1st round picks he’s got for next year to GB to get AR?
the GM was shopping Rodgers (and allegedly had a "3 1sts" price tag and a preferred list of teams from Rodgers) and SF (one of the teams on the list) was interested and made an offer, but the Packers GM balked.
I thought I read the GM called Rodgers during the off-season and said he was going to try and trade him and that's what started all this.
So, if all that is true, if you're Rodgers and know you're approaching the end of the road and this GM who really hasn't done you much favors as a QB (and I know that's a two-way street) but then doesn't pull the trigger, I can understand Rodgers being a dick (if it's true).
why he's not thrilled with the general direction of the team, but these conversations should be had inside the facility not in the media so they can dissect everything to death.
Rodgers doesn't look good in this secenario at all.
why he's not thrilled with the general direction of the team, but these conversations should be had inside the facility not in the media so they can dissect everything to death.
Rodgers doesn't look good in this secenario at all.
It’s past that point. This didn’t just happen, it’s been brewing for years apparently. At some point someone needs to make a move and Rodgers doesn’t have a problem being the one to do it. He doesn’t care if people think he’s a dick either.
1. How shitty they’ve run the team over the years and 2. That a lot happens behind closed doors that turn relationships on his head.
The packers did this to themselves by keeping McCarthy around so long and then doubled down when they drafted Love and having shitty drafts overall.
The old way of doing things is over. GB, Seattle, Houston are all immediate examples of this.
Taking Love and the AJ Dillon when you have prime Aaron Rodgers was really dumb. Rodgers was the league MVP last year. The Packers don't get nearly enough grief for mismanaging their roster with a HOF qb
But that has been a very popular idea... Inevitable physical decline and parting ways too early vs. too late, planning for the future, etc...
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli was treated that way and we were pissed. They ruined some of his prime years.
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli was treated that way and we were pissed. They ruined some of his prime years.
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Disagree...the Giants tried to help their offense, they just have been awful at talent acquisition. The Packers almost go out of their way to not bring in skill players.
if you have a star skill position player who’s getting older like a Julio Jones, sure. But he was in the NFCC game and his arm talent has shown no signs of declining. He came off a 4 INT season......4.
And even with all that the Packers still could have made it right and chose not to. No extension, and the threat of trading him (if the rumors are true) without actually doing it. The whole thing has been mismanaged.
if you have a star skill position player who’s getting older like a Julio Jones, sure. But he was in the NFCC game and his arm talent has shown no signs of declining. He came off a 4 INT season......4.
And even with all that the Packers still could have made it right and chose not to. No extension, and the threat of trading him (if the rumors are true) without actually doing it. The whole thing has been mismanaged.
Favre wasn't a declining average QB when Rodgers was drafted.
Or show up. Up to you. He's in danger of Tiki Barbering himself IMO. If you want a career post football try not to be a dick
Or, dick or no dick, he could just buy a house in Tahoe, and spend the rest of his life in ease and comfort with the money he's already made, while still pulling in some bucks from ad work, etc.
How we never hold our own to the same standard we apply to players from other organizations.
Rodgers is a prick? Why? He's given his entire career to the Packers and sat the bench for three years while the Packers dicked around with Farve. He's a 3 time league MVP. He's pissee that they haven't done anything to improve the team around him.
And yet we celebrate a QB who's daddy orchestrated a draft day deal before having aged a single NFL down.
get smoked in the SB and they could have just said ehh fuck it but instead did everything they could to protect Mahomes.
Mahomes is 25. Rodgers is 37. While I agree Rodgers has a lot left in the tank, and I disagreed with the Love pick, it's not egregious to start grooming a future QB. Favre was 35 when they traded up to the 1st round for Rodgers.
it isn’t 2005 anymore, different league. I said that already, things don’t work that way anymore. And Rodgers and Love weren’t close in talent level coming out - the former was considered likely the best QB in the draft and the other a project.
it isn’t 2005 anymore, different league. I said that already, things don’t work that way anymore. And Rodgers and Love weren’t close in talent level coming out - the former was considered likely the best QB in the draft and the other a project.
Alex Smith went #1 overall in 2005. Rodgers fell all the way to the 20's when the Packers traded up for him. That's identical to what happened with Love, really.
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
On a human level, we all build up resentments with our employers
I'm sure Rodgers has his and they are cumulative. Taking Love in Rd 1. That terrible 4th down punt. I just don't think you can resolve this without therapy lol.
RE: I don't agree with it, and I understand why he's unhappy....
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
Ok superfan. Such short memories we have.
RE: RE: RE: The Packers have literally buttfucked this guy for the last 5 years
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
Ok superfan. Such short memories we have.
March 3021
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Packers have literally buttfucked this guy for the last 5 years
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
Ok superfan. Such short memories we have.
March 3021
March 2021
RE: RE: RE: RE: The Packers have literally buttfucked this guy for the last 5 years
and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
More so than anything... they have a reasonable out 'contract wise' after this season. They can save half his cap eat half of it AFTER this upcoming season... something they probably wouldn't strongly consider unless he starts causing a stink like he is now...
The GM was a scout or something prior, but he didn't become GM until 2018 when the team was already a mess. They were coming of a losing season after some mediocre years, the offense wasn't as dynamic, the defense stunk for years, and the McCarthy Rodgers relationship was in the toilet and very public.
He fixed the defense pretty quickly. He drafted a couple starters at corner, signed zadarius smith, preston smith, adrian amos, etc... Look at them now.
Offensively, yea he could have done more, but it would be at the expense of the defense that was in terrible shape. You only have so much money, so many draft picks, and so many FAs that you can afford.
Offensively, he did draft pro bowl lineman, AJ dillon, and baby Runyan. None of his wrs or TEs look like they will pan out. I don't recall many of his offensive FA signings besides Graham who was long done from his NO days.
Bottom line for me is he took over a messy team, has a pretty damn good roster top to bottom, and has won 13 games 2 of his 3 years. Rodgers has 2 lineman, a wr, and rb in the pro bowl. Frankly, Tonyan should have made it too. They certainly need a legit #2 wr, but the roster is pretty good, much better than most teams.
but make no mistake, guys like Brady are assholes too, the difference here is 1. He had a great HC and 2. BB/Kraft actually invested in him.
Swap the two players, I bet Brady would have been long gone by now if he were a Packer.
Also, he was in Tampa five minutes and they were bending over backwards to get whatever and whoever he wanted.
Gronk? Sure.
Antonio Brown? Sure.
Fournette? Okay.
Trade up to get an offensive tackle.
The Packers are going to stick with their plan, which rarely involves big free agent expenditures or high offensive draft picks. They’ve used their first pick on an offensive player ONCE in the past decade and that was to draft Jordan Love, a quarterback.
and win a SB. Maybe he feels he can do the same with another team. He’s proven what a big jerk he really is.
He saw Tim Brady leave and join a franchise that did everything possible to make him happy and put a quality offensive unit around him. Heck, the Giants did everything that they could with Eli… they just did a very poor job of talent evaluation.
It is a business. Rodgers is doing this because he can. His life is set. He can give back 30 million if they want to play hardball. The chip on his shoulder that makes him great is in play. He will not give in. GM pissed him off. QB or GM, owner's choice. I am betting on Rodgers. GM is gone or Rodgers is playing Denver.
They can play hardball too. They can say you're retired and we own your rights.
Sure they can. He retires ...Do they keep 35 million handy or they sign players? What happens when he unretires. He can fuck them over 6 ways from Sunday. You want Aaron Rodgers in your locker room when he doesn’t want to be there? Rodgers is a different kind of cat. He is going to win this. I wouldn't question that man's resolve.
Capitalist pigs irate at labor exerting leverage for once.
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
In that game. This a hard ball, big boy, high stakes business. Powerful corporation negotiating with a powerful employee that is aggrieved. I don't judge either of them.
Actions have consequences in the real world. Packers drafted Rodgers replacement without consult.
He now wants out or the GM fired.
It just is. I am going to enjoy this now public game of chicken.
Whether this is true or not, Rodgers shouldn’t hold the place captive. If I were the Packers, trade him for anything. You don’t want this newly diagnosed cancer to continue. It’s fucked.
Sorry, I don’t care how long he has helped, I don’t care how many games he can win. You aren’t god.
this doesnt have to do with love or favre - it has to do with the trash front office not supplying a hof generational talent with a supporting cast to make a run at the superbowl. people are so dense wtf. makes me not wanna follow sports tbh.
this doesnt have to do with love or favre - it has to do with the trash front office not supplying a hof generational talent with a supporting cast to make a run at the superbowl. people are so dense wtf. makes me not wanna follow sports tbh.
They can play hardball too. They can say you're retired and we own your rights.
They may own his NFL rights, but they can't keep Jeopardy from signing him. He killed it during his two week stint as guest host, and the ratings went up. Nice gig, they film a week's episodes in a day, so he would work 1 day a week for 40 something weeks a year at a very nice salary. And he would not age out as an NFL player eventually does.
RE: Some people here still angry about John Elway...
The Packers made the NFCCG two years in a row, losing this year due to questionable decision making and bad fumbles. They had the talent to win the Super Bowl both years and did not get it done. This isn't the post-2011 Giants. The defense was 13th in PPG and top ten in yards.
The Packers made the NFCCG two years in a row, losing this year due to questionable decision making and bad fumbles. They had the talent to win the Super Bowl both years and did not get it done. This isn't the post-2011 Giants. The defense was 13th in PPG and top ten in yards.
The Packers defense last year was ranked in 13th in PPG and top ten in yards.*
Whether this is true or not, Rodgers shouldn’t hold the place captive. If I were the Packers, trade him for anything. You don’t want this newly diagnosed cancer to continue. It’s fucked.
Sorry, I don’t care how long he has helped, I don’t care how many games he can win. You aren’t god.
No player is bigger than the team/franchise. EVER. The Packers will still be playing football in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years.... Rodgers will not.
Well, the Packers' GM's record is 32-15-1, 26-6 since firing McCarthy and hiring Lafleur, and 2 NFC Championship appearances since. Is that a fireable offense because he took Jordan Love?
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
Assuming he has leverage (which I disagree with...2 years left on his contract and a highly drafted backup), he's taking all the trade leverage away from the Packers by speaking out. Packers won't let him go in a bad deal, and the more trouble he causes, the weaker the offer to the Packers get.
Handle this behind closed doors and it probably gets done.
But when his previous employer stopped bringing in talent, he got the hell out of there and went somewhere else. His new organization did everything possible to bring in talent, including any players Brady wanted. No one in the league will touch Antonio Brown. Brady wanted him and he got him. Meanwhile, the only first round pick the Packers will use on offense is for Jordan Love.
I mean, he hired Lafluer and they've been 26-3 since, and made the NFC Championships two years in a row....
And they're going to fire the guy because he didn't consult Rodgers before drafting Love?
Beyond stupid as are the hot takes here.
There is no need to spend #1 picks on offensive skill players when you can pull Aaron Jones in the 5th round, Davante Adams in the 2nd round, pick Tonyan off the Lions scrap heap, get Valdes-Scantling and his 20 yards a catch in the 5th round, etc etc. They've made the playoffs 14 of the last 20 years and have been in 3 of the last 5 NFC championship games.
This is a franchise run "shitty" and a "mess"? Really? Can we be a shitty mess like this too?
They "buttfucked" Rodgers when at age 35 coming off an injury season, the Packers handed Rodgers a 57 million signing bonus and a 134 million dollar contract to take him to age 38. He wasn't whining when he cashed the check.
You guys need to stop listening to the assholes in the sporting press trying to gin up a controversy.
If Rodgers agreed, none of this would be happening.
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
Assuming he has leverage (which I disagree with...2 years left on his contract and a highly drafted backup), he's taking all the trade leverage away from the Packers by speaking out. Packers won't let him go in a bad deal, and the more trouble he causes, the weaker the offer to the Packers get.
Handle this behind closed doors and it probably gets done.
So, you think some team could pick up Rogers cheap because he wants out? When you'd have 20+ teams falling all over themselves to get him his desires would have no bearing on the possible offers.
But when his previous employer stopped bringing in talent, he got the hell out of there and went somewhere else. His new organization did everything possible to bring in talent, including any players Brady wanted. No one in the league will touch Antonio Brown. Brady wanted him and he got him. Meanwhile, the only first round pick the Packers will use on offense is for Jordan Love.
Yes he did leave, but he was a FA, not under contract
and he's throwing down the gauntlet. I can certainly see his point...
Hell, Tom Brady supposedly went to Kraft and threw down the gauntlet when Belichick wanted to keep JimG as the heir apparent. And basically told Kraft to trade JimG or else. A few days later, JimG was a 49er.
I mean, he hired Lafluer and they've been 26-3 since, and made the NFC Championships two years in a row....
And they're going to fire the guy because he didn't consult Rodgers before drafting Love?
Beyond stupid as are the hot takes here.
There is no need to spend #1 picks on offensive skill players when you can pull Aaron Jones in the 5th round, Davante Adams in the 2nd round, pick Tonyan off the Lions scrap heap, get Valdes-Scantling and his 20 yards a catch in the 5th round, etc etc. They've made the playoffs 14 of the last 20 years and have been in 3 of the last 5 NFC championship games.
This is a franchise run "shitty" and a "mess"? Really? Can we be a shitty mess like this too?
They "buttfucked" Rodgers when at age 35 coming off an injury season, the Packers handed Rodgers a 57 million signing bonus and a 134 million dollar contract to take him to age 38. He wasn't whining when he cashed the check.
You guys need to stop listening to the assholes in the sporting press trying to gin up a controversy.
chimed in on Rodgers and basically called him out. I think Bradshaw is right. Poor Aaron Rodgers he only got to the NFC Champ Game after carving up the league.
He's pissed because they drafted the QB in the 1st round in 2020? What a douche bag. Whining he didn't have enough tools? He had plenty.
I agree STFU and play or retire. Post article on Terry Bradshaw - ( New Window )
Aaron Rogers is the rare case of one player making an offense go
Did I see someone just reference MVS 20 ypc? He isn’t half the player Slayton is. Rogers is the reason that team is so damn good and all you need to look at their record without him and they’ve had some decent backups there.
This is all down to the fact they are doing everything in their power from a roster building standpoint to piss him off combined with the uncertainty of his contract. I doubt he saw them drafting a QB when he had 4 years left on his deal when he signed it. They can cut bait at any moment. There’s a ton going on behind the scenes here clearly, but like usual, people have their mind made up one way or another.
Moved up to take Love. Get on with it, trade Rodgers for a ransom and let him go somewhere else or fire the GM. He has earned the money he made and the right to play for who he wants. I bet they get 4 #1s, transform the club. He isn't screwing them, they will get a huge return. They can reset the franchise.
One of the folks campaigning for QBs not being worth the money here is a perfect test case. Love is on a rookie contract, Trade Rodgers for players and picks and run with it. Sign others FAs with the money you get back.
Sometimes breakups are best for everyone. Relationships sometimes go bad.
chimed in on Rodgers and basically called him out. I think Bradshaw is right. Poor Aaron Rodgers he only got to the NFC Champ Game after carving up the league.
He's pissed because they drafted the QB in the 1st round in 2020? What a douche bag. Whining he didn't have enough tools? He had plenty.
I agree STFU and play or retire. Post article on Terry Bradshaw - ( New Window )
The GM decides to put out there that there is zero % chance we are trading him. Rodgers comes back with fire the GM or I am not coming back. Clearly fans will side with Rodgers over GM so basically Rodgers called his bluff..
^This.
Let’s not damn the guy because some reporter claims to have a source
The packers did this to themselves by keeping McCarthy around so long and then doubled down when they drafted Love and having shitty drafts overall.
The old way of doing things is over. GB, Seattle, Houston are all immediate examples of this.
He’s always been a dick. He’s actually well liked off the field. Does a lot for charity and was very well received on jeopardy.
The packers did this to themselves by keeping McCarthy around so long and then doubled down when they drafted Love and having shitty drafts overall.
The old way of doing things is over. GB, Seattle, Houston are all immediate examples of this.
So not only do you want to pay the QB 20% of your salary cap, you want to give him power over the front office too?
Slippery slope.
Rodgers is a petty dude, for sure, but the GM hasn't done right by him either. Pack fans must be in mourning.
The packers did this to themselves by keeping McCarthy around so long and then doubled down when they drafted Love and having shitty drafts overall.
The old way of doing things is over. GB, Seattle, Houston are all immediate examples of this.
Taking Love and the AJ Dillon when you have prime Aaron Rodgers was really dumb. Rodgers was the league MVP last year. The Packers don't get nearly enough grief for mismanaging their roster with a HOF qb
It’s an inept front office and Rodgers has been covering it up for years.
The guy is a prick.
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Or show up. Up to you. He's in danger of Tiki Barbering himself IMO. If you want a career post football try not to be a dick
He’s always been a dick. He’s actually well liked off the field. Does a lot for charity and was very well received on jeopardy.
I actually like him in general for the reasons you state. Tiki was very popular then really blew it. Rodgers wants an extension for most likely 30 million per year or more . That is what this is about. But he obviously wants a media/acting career too. The only way something like this gets out is if he has in reps put t it out there. Hence my warning. Tiki looked like he had a very viable post football media career. He blew it. Rodgers IMO needs to be careful here IMO to hear may blow up his post NFL options .
Maybe Getty can send those two 1st round picks he’s got for next year to GB to get AR?
Yeah. Who does he think he is? Deshaun Watson?
Put Love in there, that’s why they drafted him right?
Swap the two players, I bet Brady would have been long gone by now if he were a Packer.
Top run game, top WR and the best OL in football.
The defense picked off Brady three times in the NFC title game. It wasn't the GM who failed to do anything with those opportunities.
I thought I read the GM called Rodgers during the off-season and said he was going to try and trade him and that's what started all this.
So, if all that is true, if you're Rodgers and know you're approaching the end of the road and this GM who really hasn't done you much favors as a QB (and I know that's a two-way street) but then doesn't pull the trigger, I can understand Rodgers being a dick (if it's true).
That SF team would have been perfect for Rodgers.
Rodgers doesn't look good in this secenario at all.
Bingo. Fuck 'em let see where else he can make $30 million next year. Or for the rest of his life for that matter.
Rodgers doesn't look good in this secenario at all.
It’s past that point. This didn’t just happen, it’s been brewing for years apparently. At some point someone needs to make a move and Rodgers doesn’t have a problem being the one to do it. He doesn’t care if people think he’s a dick either.
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1. How shitty they’ve run the team over the years and 2. That a lot happens behind closed doors that turn relationships on his head.
The packers did this to themselves by keeping McCarthy around so long and then doubled down when they drafted Love and having shitty drafts overall.
The old way of doing things is over. GB, Seattle, Houston are all immediate examples of this.
Taking Love and the AJ Dillon when you have prime Aaron Rodgers was really dumb. Rodgers was the league MVP last year. The Packers don't get nearly enough grief for mismanaging their roster with a HOF qb
But that has been a very popular idea... Inevitable physical decline and parting ways too early vs. too late, planning for the future, etc...
In fact, that's exactly how Rodgers was drafted.
Eli was treated that way and we were pissed. They ruined some of his prime years.
You're fuckin joking right? That guy put that franchise on his back and that scumbag of a gm hasnt done a fucking thing to help him. Wtf?
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and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli was treated that way and we were pissed. They ruined some of his prime years.
Disagree...the Giants tried to help their offense, they just have been awful at talent acquisition. The Packers almost go out of their way to not bring in skill players.
And even with all that the Packers still could have made it right and chose not to. No extension, and the threat of trading him (if the rumors are true) without actually doing it. The whole thing has been mismanaged.
The packers front office is a laughing stock. Gutekunst is WORSE than Reese was.
And even with all that the Packers still could have made it right and chose not to. No extension, and the threat of trading him (if the rumors are true) without actually doing it. The whole thing has been mismanaged.
Favre wasn't a declining average QB when Rodgers was drafted.
Or, dick or no dick, he could just buy a house in Tahoe, and spend the rest of his life in ease and comfort with the money he's already made, while still pulling in some bucks from ad work, etc.
Rodgers is a prick? Why? He's given his entire career to the Packers and sat the bench for three years while the Packers dicked around with Farve. He's a 3 time league MVP. He's pissee that they haven't done anything to improve the team around him.
And yet we celebrate a QB who's daddy orchestrated a draft day deal before having aged a single NFL down.
Way to be intellectually consistent there.
Mahomes is 25. Rodgers is 37. While I agree Rodgers has a lot left in the tank, and I disagreed with the Love pick, it's not egregious to start grooming a future QB. Favre was 35 when they traded up to the 1st round for Rodgers.
Ohh I get it. I wouldn’t budge if I was GB. I’m simply saying they are getting what they deserve now, they botched this for years.
Alex Smith went #1 overall in 2005. Rodgers fell all the way to the 20's when the Packers traded up for him. That's identical to what happened with Love, really.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
Its funny watching broke ass Marks defend multi billion dollar corporations over the boys. Thats a good sheeple.
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and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
Ok superfan. Such short memories we have.
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and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
Ok superfan. Such short memories we have.
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and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
Ok superfan. Such short memories we have.
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and the same people calling him a diva would be irate if Eli was treated like Rodgers has, and Rodgers is twice the player Eli is, which isn't a knock.
Eli is twice the man Rodgers is. Period.
Ok superfan. Such short memories we have.
March 3021
Oh man. Mic drop.
Some people may be, but I am not defending him, but I understand why he's pissed.
However by going public (if he even actually did and the story is true) it sort of forces their hand.
He fixed the defense pretty quickly. He drafted a couple starters at corner, signed zadarius smith, preston smith, adrian amos, etc... Look at them now.
Offensively, yea he could have done more, but it would be at the expense of the defense that was in terrible shape. You only have so much money, so many draft picks, and so many FAs that you can afford.
Offensively, he did draft pro bowl lineman, AJ dillon, and baby Runyan. None of his wrs or TEs look like they will pan out. I don't recall many of his offensive FA signings besides Graham who was long done from his NO days.
Bottom line for me is he took over a messy team, has a pretty damn good roster top to bottom, and has won 13 games 2 of his 3 years. Rodgers has 2 lineman, a wr, and rb in the pro bowl. Frankly, Tonyan should have made it too. They certainly need a legit #2 wr, but the roster is pretty good, much better than most teams.
No problem though since I can't stand them and their front running fans.
Swap the two players, I bet Brady would have been long gone by now if he were a Packer.
Also, he was in Tampa five minutes and they were bending over backwards to get whatever and whoever he wanted.
Gronk? Sure.
Antonio Brown? Sure.
Fournette? Okay.
Trade up to get an offensive tackle.
The Packers are going to stick with their plan, which rarely involves big free agent expenditures or high offensive draft picks. They’ve used their first pick on an offensive player ONCE in the past decade and that was to draft Jordan Love, a quarterback.
He saw Tim Brady leave and join a franchise that did everything possible to make him happy and put a quality offensive unit around him. Heck, the Giants did everything that they could with Eli… they just did a very poor job of talent evaluation.
And they're going to fire the guy because he didn't consult Rodgers before drafting Love?
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but ultimately he is an employee.
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
Actions have consequences in the real world. Packers drafted Rodgers replacement without consult.
He now wants out or the GM fired.
It just is. I am going to enjoy this now public game of chicken.
Sorry, I don’t care how long he has helped, I don’t care how many games he can win. You aren’t god.
Did GB let Favre know they were drafting Rodgers?
Did GB let Favre know they were drafting Rodgers?
this doesnt have to do with love or favre - it has to do with the trash front office not supplying a hof generational talent with a supporting cast to make a run at the superbowl. people are so dense wtf. makes me not wanna follow sports tbh.
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since I have no idea.
Did GB let Favre know they were drafting Rodgers?
this doesnt have to do with love or favre - it has to do with the trash front office not supplying a hof generational talent with a supporting cast to make a run at the superbowl. people are so dense wtf. makes me not wanna follow sports tbh.
Ok settle down.
They may own his NFL rights, but they can't keep Jeopardy from signing him. He killed it during his two week stint as guest host, and the ratings went up. Nice gig, they film a week's episodes in a day, so he would work 1 day a week for 40 something weeks a year at a very nice salary. And he would not age out as an NFL player eventually does.
Or OBJ traded away.
The Packers defense last year was ranked in 13th in PPG and top ten in yards.*
Sorry, I don’t care how long he has helped, I don’t care how many games he can win. You aren’t god.
No player is bigger than the team/franchise. EVER. The Packers will still be playing football in 10 years, 20 years, 50 years.... Rodgers will not.
Yup, Just because he’s a top 10 or better QB ever, does not preclude him from being called an arrogant prick..Fuck him!
Brady is 10 times the leader this clown is. The proof is in the pudding.
Rodgers seems completely unaware of his shortcomings.
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but ultimately he is an employee.
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
Assuming he has leverage (which I disagree with...2 years left on his contract and a highly drafted backup), he's taking all the trade leverage away from the Packers by speaking out. Packers won't let him go in a bad deal, and the more trouble he causes, the weaker the offer to the Packers get.
Handle this behind closed doors and it probably gets done.
And they're going to fire the guy because he didn't consult Rodgers before drafting Love?
There is no need to spend #1 picks on offensive skill players when you can pull Aaron Jones in the 5th round, Davante Adams in the 2nd round, pick Tonyan off the Lions scrap heap, get Valdes-Scantling and his 20 yards a catch in the 5th round, etc etc. They've made the playoffs 14 of the last 20 years and have been in 3 of the last 5 NFC championship games.
This is a franchise run "shitty" and a "mess"? Really? Can we be a shitty mess like this too?
They "buttfucked" Rodgers when at age 35 coming off an injury season, the Packers handed Rodgers a 57 million signing bonus and a 134 million dollar contract to take him to age 38. He wasn't whining when he cashed the check.
You guys need to stop listening to the assholes in the sporting press trying to gin up a controversy.
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In comment 15248889 Britt in VA said:
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but ultimately he is an employee.
He's an employee with leverage. Perceived or real. I don't begrudge him for using whatever leverage he thinks he has in trying to improve his situation. Particularly with the window on his career closing. More power to him.
Assuming he has leverage (which I disagree with...2 years left on his contract and a highly drafted backup), he's taking all the trade leverage away from the Packers by speaking out. Packers won't let him go in a bad deal, and the more trouble he causes, the weaker the offer to the Packers get.
Handle this behind closed doors and it probably gets done.
So, you think some team could pick up Rogers cheap because he wants out? When you'd have 20+ teams falling all over themselves to get him his desires would have no bearing on the possible offers.
Yes he did leave, but he was a FA, not under contract
Hell, Tom Brady supposedly went to Kraft and threw down the gauntlet when Belichick wanted to keep JimG as the heir apparent. And basically told Kraft to trade JimG or else. A few days later, JimG was a 49er.
There can be no peace while Gutekunst is still the GM!
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I mean, he hired Lafluer and they've been 26-3 since, and made the NFC Championships two years in a row....
And they're going to fire the guy because he didn't consult Rodgers before drafting Love?
Beyond stupid as are the hot takes here.
There is no need to spend #1 picks on offensive skill players when you can pull Aaron Jones in the 5th round, Davante Adams in the 2nd round, pick Tonyan off the Lions scrap heap, get Valdes-Scantling and his 20 yards a catch in the 5th round, etc etc. They've made the playoffs 14 of the last 20 years and have been in 3 of the last 5 NFC championship games.
This is a franchise run "shitty" and a "mess"? Really? Can we be a shitty mess like this too?
They "buttfucked" Rodgers when at age 35 coming off an injury season, the Packers handed Rodgers a 57 million signing bonus and a 134 million dollar contract to take him to age 38. He wasn't whining when he cashed the check.
You guys need to stop listening to the assholes in the sporting press trying to gin up a controversy.
Thank you HomerJones45!
He's pissed because they drafted the QB in the 1st round in 2020? What a douche bag. Whining he didn't have enough tools? He had plenty.
I agree STFU and play or retire.
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This is all down to the fact they are doing everything in their power from a roster building standpoint to piss him off combined with the uncertainty of his contract. I doubt he saw them drafting a QB when he had 4 years left on his deal when he signed it. They can cut bait at any moment. There’s a ton going on behind the scenes here clearly, but like usual, people have their mind made up one way or another.
Sometimes breakups are best for everyone. Relationships sometimes go bad.
He's pissed because they drafted the QB in the 1st round in 2020? What a douche bag. Whining he didn't have enough tools? He had plenty.
I agree STFU and play or retire. Post article on Terry Bradshaw - ( New Window )
Quite a compelling case you and Terry have made.