Chicago Bears 2022 1st Rounder
Miami Dolphins 2022 3rd Rounder
Chicago Bears 2022 4th Rounder
1st Round: WR Kadarius Toney
2nd Round: LB Azeez Ojulari
3rd Round: CB Aaron Robinson
4th Round: LB Elerson Smith
6th Round: RB Gary Brightwell
6th Round: CB Rodarius Williams
(Side Note: Interesting that the Giants have now drafted six linebackers and five defensive backs in the last two drafts).
Four really solid picks in the first four rounds and an absolutely superb job of setting up the 2022 draft.
Can't beat it with a stick.
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they went into the draft with 2036 value points. This years picks are valued at something like 1720 according to GBN’s big board, around 1900 on Sy’s grades list. The future picks they banked, minimum, 726. That’s if Bears beat Dolphins in Super Bowl. If Bears have worst record, it could go as high as 3362.
How is that not an A+?
Only complaint, trade some of that future capital for an OL pick this year.
It’s not an A+ because the point of the draft is to improve your team, not your draft chart point value. I’m surprised that has to be said.
If these players fulfill their potential then it is an A+. If they missed on these picks the additional picks last year are nothing but a consolation prize.
In that case there’s no point in participating in this grading game at all. Thanks for playing I guess
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If they didn’t trade back and get more picks it would be lower. I don’t like the gun issues with Toney. Also I don’t think his style of play will do any assistance to his body long term, could see the injury bug creeping up. Azeez has the knee issues and there was better talent on the board. Aaron Robinson maybe but not in the third. On paper it looks fine for now but I’m concerned we’ll look back on this one in a few years and go wtf.
Not sure why it would be lower if they didn’t trade back. If they didn’t trade back, they wouldn’t have picked the players that you don’t like. Seems like if they didn’t trade back it should be higher.
This draft better hit big. Especially by not drafting a O lineman, and fixing your biggest need the O line. The Bear’s pick that everyone is so exited about is not going to help any this coming year.
The O line hasn’t been fixed in years, so you are willing to take a chance with this group, and if not better the team will go 0-5 for winning seasons.
0-5.
I'm tired of these stupid ass critical comments about the OL.
What they are doing now (drafting and developing those players) is the proven way to "fix" the line.
What would you do instead?
Yes and he is bigger and fast than Shaq Barrett. I love this pick!
I'm tired of these stupid ass critical comments about the OL.
What they are doing now (drafting and developing those players) is the proven way to "fix" the line.
What would you do instead?
3rd & 4th rounds were very strong as well, a very promising ER and a CB who should be a major contributor pretty quickly. The only slight negative that keeps it from being an A draft is that I thought the 6th rounders were uninspiring when better players were still on the board. They’re 6th rounders, so I’m not going to lose sleep over it.
I'm tired of these stupid ass critical comments about the OL.
What they are doing now (drafting and developing those players) is the proven way to "fix" the line.
What would you do instead?
SAC when the O line sucks?
I said back in FA that I would have gone after Thuney. KC, which saw the need after the SB disaster have revamped their whole line. Who would you rather have on your left side? Brown, and Thuney, or Thomas, and take your pick from one of the backup guards the Giants have.
It’s, or second round would have been another O line pick in this past draft. I’ve heard all kinds of excuses that, because the Giants drafted 3 linemen last year that they couldn’t do it again. The Jets got Becton, who the Giants should have drafted last year, and drafted someone to play along side him this year, and now the Jets are better than the Giants on the O line.
If we had taken OL in round 2 or 3, what are the odds that those guys start/immediately show that they are the better option over Hernandez, Lemieux, Fulton, or Peart?
Playing OL in the NFL especially if you aren’t a 1st round draft pick is a really tough adjustment.
NYG have made it perfectly clear that they really like 4-5 guys that they already have in their building, and they will take the chance of this group gelling with a new OL coach over just simply taking a guy instead of another position/more highly rated player.
Free agency isn’t over yet, guys could still shake loose.
If we had taken OL in round 2 or 3, what are the odds that those guys start/immediately show that they are the better option over Hernandez, Lemieux, Fulton, or Peart?
Hernandez may have played well as a rookie, but has gone down hill since.
Lemieux was a center who could play guard, and drafted in the 5th round as a backup. Peart, and Thomas are unproven, and Gates is still learning at center. All the youth, and inexperience elevator if the talent is there is not a good formula for success. They needed some good vets, and that is why I would have gone after Thuney. And yes I know he was expensive. If you’re telling me there was no one out there in the draft that was better than WH, or SL I don’t believe that, or Peart for that matter. I hope everyone is right, and the O line turns out to be decent, but I don’t think so.
Playing OL in the NFL especially if you aren’t a 1st round draft pick is a really tough adjustment.
Loved the moving down and picking up a 1 and 4 and then picked up a 3 next year and still got the best edge rusher in the draft.
Picking up the cornerbacks helps with nowadays offenses with multiple wide outs.
Damn, teachers are supposed to love grades!
Considering the 2021 players drafted AND the additional 2022 picks, an A+
It seems to me they must have thought the difference between the OL in the 6th vs UDFA was less than the difference in the players they picked vs UDFA.
If we had taken OL in round 2 or 3, what are the odds that those guys start/immediately show that they are the better option over Hernandez, Lemieux, Fulton, or Peart?
Playing OL in the NFL especially if you aren’t a 1st round draft pick is a really tough adjustment.
More likely than you think. You seem to be drinking whatever look-aid the organization is serving up.
They have a high opinion of the current group. We’ll see if they’re right.
I do not know much about the last 2 players taken but, I love the first 4. Elerson Smith ... a project?
Now we are at an A.
Throw in the FA signings (Golladay, Jackson, etc ....)
A+ off season.
Players Alone - B. Like the 6 guys they got but they cluster drafted a position where we have some good young players and took a mainly ST player as a running back. Toney pick was good but Ojuilari, Robinson and Smith were all massive values. Picks 2-4 were their best.
With Trades - A+. The players were good but the trades were great. This gives us a lot of flexibility to do what we want going into next years draft, also allows us to add players without spending FA $$ which will be sparse.
All in all, looks like reasonable decisions
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since it now has been 3 years?
Hasn’t the ‘18 draft been beaten to death around here? We get it. It was a massive fail.
You are such a miserable fuck. How do you even get out of bed each day? Holy shit. We can’t enjoy the moment. Nope. Let’s revisit 2018 to bring back the misery! Yay!
You’re right the draft was a massive fail, and that is a big reason why the Giants haven’t had a winning record in 5 years. As for the grade for this year I give them a INC for not addressing their biggest need the O line, and we won’t have to wait 3 years to see how that works out. That grade will come in 6 months from now.
He is also right in that you are an old miserable fuck.
Oh, and the Giants addressed their two biggest areas of need (WR and pass rush). And improved slot/nickle CB.
So yeah, I'll give it an A.
Three outstanding options??? Solder sucked when he was a starter. One of the worst FA signings the Giants have made.
Grade A+ for 2022.
Overall A- to A.
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I understand the criticism: but Hernandez played well as a rookie. Lemieux had some moments as a rookie but it was up and down. Peart looked the part, not much playing time as a third rounder. Gates really showed a lot after struggling for a few weeks.
If we had taken OL in round 2 or 3, what are the odds that those guys start/immediately show that they are the better option over Hernandez, Lemieux, Fulton, or Peart?
Playing OL in the NFL especially if you aren’t a 1st round draft pick is a really tough adjustment.
More likely than you think. You seem to be drinking whatever look-aid the organization is serving up.
They have a high opinion of the current group. We’ll see if they’re right.
Well, as you suggest, it’s Schrödinger’s cat. So, there’s no difference at this point between being optimistic or being pessimistic other than the latter brings everyone else down around you.
But, getting a first round pick for next year and 3rd and 4th are huge for next years draft. I honestly don’t understand how anyone doesn’t love this draft. Great job Big Blue!
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In comment 15249998 chick310 said:
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since it now has been 3 years?
Hasn’t the ‘18 draft been beaten to death around here? We get it. It was a massive fail.
You are such a miserable fuck. How do you even get out of bed each day? Holy shit. We can’t enjoy the moment. Nope. Let’s revisit 2018 to bring back the misery! Yay!
You’re right the draft was a massive fail, and that is a big reason why the Giants haven’t had a winning record in 5 years. As for the grade for this year I give them a INC for not addressing their biggest need the O line, and we won’t have to wait 3 years to see how that works out. That grade will come in 6 months from now.
He is also right in that you are an old miserable fuck.
Don't bother with Old Blue Balls. He's all yack and absolutely no Fucking substance.
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I understand the criticism: but Hernandez played well as a rookie. Lemieux had some moments as a rookie but it was up and down. Peart looked the part, not much playing time as a third rounder. Gates really showed a lot after struggling for a few weeks.
If we had taken OL in round 2 or 3, what are the odds that those guys start/immediately show that they are the better option over Hernandez, Lemieux, Fulton, or Peart?
Playing OL in the NFL especially if you aren’t a 1st round draft pick is a really tough adjustment.
More likely than you think. You seem to be drinking whatever look-aid the organization is serving up.
They have a high opinion of the current group. We’ll see if they’re right.
Well, as you suggest, it’s Schrödinger’s cat. So, there’s no difference at this point between being optimistic or being pessimistic other than the latter brings everyone else down around you.
Not really, it’s not like all of these guys are complete unknowns. It comes to whether they’ll perform like they did (up and down) or worse, or if they’ll improve with experience. The organization believes the latter. We’ll see.
What others think - nfl,com- A"; pff -"C"; Sporting News - "A-";Walter Football - "B"; Sports Illustrated - "B+"; NBC Sports - "B";CBS Sports - "B"
When they got screwed by the Cowpukes/Philly conspiracy, they were wise to take what the Bears gave them. Toney & Ojulri are good solid players and two #1s in 2022 is nothing to sneeze at.