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Would you trade a 2022 #1 for Davonte Smith?

HopePhil and Optimistic : 5/3/2021 9:09 am
If things go south in Philly, and Smith is unhappy there for whatever reason, how much would you give up in a trade to bring him onboard?

He’s a good kid and will probably accept his fate, practice hard and play hard, but if he really wanted to be in NY, he may find his way here eventually anyway.

Thoughts?
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robbieballs2003 : 5/3/2021 9:14 am : link
No  
Trainmaster : 5/3/2021 9:14 am : link
The Devonta Smith ship has sailed; let it go.

While he seems like a nice young man, he’s now on a hated divisional rival.

We have an above average WR corps now. Use the 2022 1st to fill another need.

Would offer them Engram and Shepard.  
NYGgolfer : 5/3/2021 9:14 am : link
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Why a #1?  
HMunster : 5/3/2021 9:14 am : link
If things go south and he presumably doesn't have a good year, why give up a #1 for him? You could get him for less.

Where you're drafted doesn't matter as much once you put pads on. For example, John Ross was a #1 draft pick and was drafted higher than Smith. We gave up nothing for him. It's all about production and value once you play.
if I would have used the #11 pick on him this year  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/3/2021 9:14 am : link
which I would have, I certainly would use a pick next year on him. Not going to happen though.
Even if Smith is unhappy  
US1 Giants : 5/3/2021 9:15 am : link
The Giants invested a first round draft choice in Toney. Don't see the Giants spending a 2022 1st round pick on a WR. Doubt the Eagles would trade him.
That would give the Eagles 4 first rounders next year  
Sean : 5/3/2021 9:15 am : link
No. The Giants had an opportunity to move up for Smith, they didn’t.
no  
Victor in CT : 5/3/2021 9:16 am : link
.......
I'm not giving Philly a #1  
Biteymax22 : 5/3/2021 9:17 am : link
for anything....
I'm pretty happy with the group of receivers we have now. I'd trade a  
Ira : 5/3/2021 9:18 am : link
pick for one of the offensive guards we didn't take.
This is a silly thread...  
Jim in Tampa : 5/3/2021 9:21 am : link
Smith (as you pointed out) will practice and play hard even if he is dissapointed to be going to Philly instead of NY.

And Philly would NOT trade a top 10 pick from the 2021 draft (to the Giants no less) for just a 2022 first rounder, which would probably be outside the top 10.

That being said, yes I would do it in a heartbeat, because getting Smith THIS year for a 1st RD pick NEXT year would be great value... and next year we'd still have a 1st rounder and extra picks in RDs 3 and 4.
A lot of unkowns  
crick n NC : 5/3/2021 9:25 am : link
What kind of player will Smith be?
How high or low in the first will the bears pick be?
What player are we getting from the Chicago pick (high or low)?
So Philly spends a 1st and 3rd rounder to get him...  
whispa : 5/3/2021 9:26 am : link
and some are acting as if Philly would be open to trade him based off assumptions he isn't happy? hmm..
Yes I would  
eric2425ny : 5/3/2021 9:34 am : link
in a second.
I'm always an advocate of doing what's best for your own team  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/3/2021 9:43 am : link
but the thought of Philly having FOUR 1st round picks next year would be enough to make me refuse to give them a #1 for him.

But also, just playing out your hypothetical, if the Eagles were in a position to be trading their 1st round pick after less than a year, you'd have to consider that they'd get back less than what they spent on him.
RE: Yes I would  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2021 9:43 am : link
In comment 15251200 eric2425ny said:
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in a second.


Oh yes. And would be shopping somebody else in that unit like Shep immediately...
It's a moot point  
Carson53 : 5/3/2021 9:55 am : link
Philly just moved ahead of the Giants to draft him, and then
in the near future will turn around and trade him...okay.
When he becomes a FA then come back  
Joe in CT : 5/3/2021 10:04 am : link
and talk to me, this is not happening but Jints might want him 4 years from now if the price is right.
That is an Interesting Thought  
OntheRoad : 5/3/2021 11:53 am : link

Smith is better than the average first-rounder. Giants and Bears are likely to be mid-round picks next year. If Smith really isn't happy, who knows? Philly is a dysfunctional organization and maybe they'll bail.

That would mean that instead of drafting Smith at #11, the Giants eventually get Toney AND Smith along with a 4 and 5 and saving the 3 the Eagles used to move up.
I can't see any way that will ever happen.  
Red Dog : 5/3/2021 12:08 pm : link
IF he's anywhere near as good as he's cracked up to be, they won't trade him for just a #1.

And if he's not anywhere near as good as he's cracked up to be, or gets hurt, he's not going to command a #1 in trade.
No  
OC2.0 : 5/3/2021 12:18 pm : link
Absolutely not
Come on, this is getting ridiculous.  
Section331 : 5/3/2021 12:18 pm : link
Now everyone is a body-reading expert? His dejection could be for any number of reasons - he thought he would go higher, he figured NYG were going to get him and had his mind set on that, he ate a bad burrito in the green room. It doesn't mean he's unhappy about going to Philly. Unless he and Hurts had a bad relationship, my guess is he's pretty happy about it.

Bottom line? Philly isn't trading him.
How about this would you  
DavidinBMNY : 5/3/2021 12:30 pm : link
Would you trade Engram for a 2023 #1 pick? (I would). Free's up value cap dollars for a player who might benefit with a change of scenery. Gives you a jump on not just next year's draft , but the one following.

Then with that $ use it best way possible, whatever that is.
The Eagles would want  
JohnF : 5/3/2021 12:36 pm : link
Two 2022 #1's and a 2022 #3, for starters, since we don't know how good the #1's are. No thanks.

Save the 2022 draft choices for our offensive line. We're lined up perfectly to fix the O-Line, and make deep runs for the next five years in the playoffs! And don't underestimate our #1...I think he's going to have a breakout rookie year!
Bears would have to be picking well below #11...  
manh george : 5/3/2021 12:39 pm : link
for that to make any sense at all. For one thing, our receiving corps is pretty full, and we still have other holes to fill--OL, of course.

For another, next year's draft is predicted to be considerably stronger than this year's, due to the impact of Covid patterns. Strong players who lost last season didn't come out in many cases. If 2022 is much stronger, a #11 this year could be the equivalent of a #15-17 or something like that next year. Possibly even lower than that. If we get three real kickass players next year with the 2 #1, a really good #2 in a strong draft, and two pretty good #3s, this team will be relly deep and strong.

And, of course the one huge open question has to be what Jones looks like this year. It's possible that we look for a QB and an OL in round 1 if Jones doesn't play so well. Kudos to Gettleman for giving us this much potential and flexibility in 2022.
RE: How about this would you  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/3/2021 12:45 pm : link
In comment 15251602 DavidinBMNY said:
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Would you trade Engram for a 2023 #1 pick? (I would). Free's up value cap dollars for a player who might benefit with a change of scenery. Gives you a jump on not just next year's draft , but the one following.

Then with that $ use it best way possible, whatever that is.

A 2023 #1? For a guy on an expiring option year that reportedly couldn't fetch a 3rd round pick at the deadline last year?

Any Giants fan would make that deal and approximately zero other NFL teams would.
Eagles?  
Svengali : 5/3/2021 12:47 pm : link
I give them nothing regardless. Let them and Dallas keep swapping spit.
The hemorrhaging just won't stop  
LeonBright45 : 5/3/2021 1:31 pm : link
First Simmons last year and now Davonta Smith. Some of you need a box of midol and a case of tampons
RE: How about this would you  
Leg of Theismann : 5/3/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15251602 DavidinBMNY said:
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Would you trade Engram for a 2023 #1 pick? (I would). Free's up value cap dollars for a player who might benefit with a change of scenery. Gives you a jump on not just next year's draft , but the one following.

Then with that $ use it best way possible, whatever that is.


Great idea. Can we also trade John Ross for a 2024 1st rounder? Maybe we can get a 2032 2nd rounder for Niko Lalos...I mean it's so far away who even wants that pick anyway.
RE: The hemorrhaging just won't stop  
Gatorade Dunk : 5/3/2021 2:15 pm : link
In comment 15251750 LeonBright45 said:
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First Simmons last year and now Davonta Smith. Some of you need a box of midol and a case of tampons

So you just woke up this morning and decided you were going to do whatever was necessary in order to get banned on here?
I’d trade OUR 2022 first  
GoDeep13 : 5/3/2021 2:41 pm : link
And Darius Slayton or Sterling Shepard. But that’s the most.
When this guy becomes the biggest bust in this draft  
Doubledeuce22 : 5/3/2021 3:42 pm : link
These threads are going to be so fun to read.
No.  
x meadowlander : 5/3/2021 3:58 pm : link
Too skinny.

Next.
You know it's May  
Knineteen : 5/3/2021 5:07 pm : link
because of absurd discussions like this.
RE: RE: The hemorrhaging just won't stop  
LeonBright45 : 5/3/2021 9:23 pm : link
In comment 15251830 Gatorade Dunk said:
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In comment 15251750 LeonBright45 said:


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First Simmons last year and now Davonta Smith. Some of you need a box of midol and a case of tampons


So you just woke up this morning and decided you were going to do whatever was necessary in order to get banned on here?


So you just woke up this morning and decided you were going to do whatever was necessary to be a bitch? On a Monday no less? What did I hit a nerve?
What?  
KWALL2 : 5/3/2021 11:18 pm : link
We have the better player.
RE: You know it's May  
Ned In Atlanta : 5/4/2021 6:35 am : link
In comment 15252039 Knineteen said:
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because of absurd discussions like this.




I can't believe it took this long for there to be any push back against this stupid hypothetical
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