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So when does Trai Turner sign?

MtDizzle : 5/3/2021 10:59 am
It would be nice to add quality veteran depth behind the young line it seems we’re rolling with. One injury away from Fulton starting.
I would think that he would be interested  
Giantimistic : 5/3/2021 11:01 am : link
if the Giants are interested. It is a great landing spot because he would have a great opportunity to have a one year prove it deal and have a real chance to get a starting spot.
Probably not  
5BowlsSoon : 5/3/2021 11:01 am : link
Maybe at the league minimum we can have this discussion.
Turner..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2021 11:01 am : link
might be a name people know, but his play has been declining. And rapidly
I get we all don’t like Fulton  
Tuckrule : 5/3/2021 11:01 am : link
Mainly because we don’t know him but hes started 90 career games and is 30. So he’s the vet depth along with Harrison. I’d love turner but I wouldn’t hold my breath.
the Giant internal view on o-line  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/3/2021 11:08 am : link
seems to be at complete odds with the fans view
I think they could  
Carson53 : 5/3/2021 11:14 am : link
kick the tires on Turner, see how much he would cost.
It could be an upgrade at an untested RG in Hernandez.
Apparently from what someone had posted previously,
Hernandez only played LG in college as well.
I don't think signing Turner would happen quickly though.
Imminent  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2021 11:16 am : link
...
my brain isn't on yet  
D HOS : 5/3/2021 11:17 am : link
having a total case of monday, so I can't think of which teams this might be, but I think what the Giants will probably do is identify which teams have a logjam of quality interior lineman, figure on who is likely to be cut loose during training camp and who of those guys would be valid replacement/competition on our team, then put those guys on their radar. Then have an understanding with Trai that he contact the Giants before he sign with anyone else, then they just wait to see how things play out.
From 5x Pro Bowler  
Dang Man : 5/3/2021 11:18 am : link
To someone who’s best play is behind him, making the vet minimum, because of a shaky 2020. Only on BBI.
RE: From 5x Pro Bowler  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2021 11:25 am : link
In comment 15251444 Dang Man said:
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To someone who’s best play is behind him, making the vet minimum, because of a shaky 2020. Only on BBI.


Or - you might want to look at the circumstances he's had in the past two seasons. The Panthers swapped him for Russell Okung, even though Turner had just made his 5th Pro Bowl. The word around the team was he was rapidly declining, probably through a combination of his injury and declining play starting to show. His last two Pro Bowls likely came more on name recognition

That Okung trade was a bust for both teams. Okung was injured and Turner played really poorly.
I'm not sure Trai Turner  
Mike from Ohio : 5/3/2021 11:25 am : link
is quality, veteran depth. My guess is the Giants don't sign him because he isn't very good anymore.
People need to realize something  
Rjanyg : 5/3/2021 11:50 am : link
How the Giants handled our O line last year is very telling. They got Lemieux and Peart reps as starters many times, getting them valuable experience and allowing the coaches to see them in gameday situations. The coaches are not just projecting Peart and Lemieux, they are going off of last years play in a year where we had Solder opt out and no off season and a strange preseason. Gates had never played center before last season and progressively got better as the season went along. We all want to shit on Hernandez but he may actually be better on the right side dealing with 1 Tech DT rather than 3 techs and WLB.

The line will be working together for the 2nd straight year with only Hernandez moving positions. This is a big deal. Continuity is important.
Maybe Not Turner  
Samiam : 5/3/2021 11:55 am : link
Is there anyone around who can help?
Seems like they would have signed already...  
GFAN52 : 5/3/2021 11:55 am : link
if they were interested. Don't see DG bringing him in.
Didn't we do this with Fleming last year?  
GManinDC : 5/3/2021 11:59 am : link
How did that turn out?
RE: People need to realize something  
Zeke's Alibi : 5/3/2021 12:02 pm : link
In comment 15251499 Rjanyg said:
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How the Giants handled our O line last year is very telling. They got Lemieux and Peart reps as starters many times, getting them valuable experience and allowing the coaches to see them in gameday situations. The coaches are not just projecting Peart and Lemieux, they are going off of last years play in a year where we had Solder opt out and no off season and a strange preseason. Gates had never played center before last season and progressively got better as the season went along. We all want to shit on Hernandez but he may actually be better on the right side dealing with 1 Tech DT rather than 3 techs and WLB.

The line will be working together for the 2nd straight year with only Hernandez moving positions. This is a big deal. Continuity is important.


Good post. I think the plan is hopefully Hernandez can find new life at RG. I'm not expert, but when I watch Hernandez in space it's like his feet move in cement, which is tough to block the athletes the NFL has on the second level in space. It isn't UTEP anymore.
RE: People need to realize something  
Rory : 5/3/2021 12:15 pm : link
In comment 15251499 Rjanyg said:
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How the Giants handled our O line last year is very telling. They got Lemieux and Peart reps as starters many times, getting them valuable experience and allowing the coaches to see them in gameday situations. The coaches are not just projecting Peart and Lemieux, they are going off of last years play in a year where we had Solder opt out and no off season and a strange preseason. Gates had never played center before last season and progressively got better as the season went along. We all want to shit on Hernandez but he may actually be better on the right side dealing with 1 Tech DT rather than 3 techs and WLB.

The line will be working together for the 2nd straight year with only Hernandez moving positions. This is a big deal. Continuity is important.


excellent post, my feelings exactly

Also you don't sign a FA like turner when you're in the middle of signing UDFA's.
Best remaining free agents  
Archer : 5/3/2021 12:43 pm : link
I like Schwartz, Villaneuva,
Link - ( New Window )
RE: People need to realize something  
joeinpa : 5/3/2021 1:03 pm : link
In comment 15251499 Rjanyg said:
[quote] How the Giants handled our O line last year is very telling. They got Lemieux and Peart reps as starters many times, getting them valuable experience and allowing the coaches to see them in gameday situations. The coaches are not just projecting Peart and Lemieux, they are going off of last years play in a year where we had Solder opt out and no off season and a strange preseason. Gates had never played center before last season and progressively got better as the season went along. We all want to shit on Hernandez but he may actually be better on the right side dealing with 1 Tech DT rather than 3 techs and WLB.

The line will be working together for the 2nd straight year with only Hernandez moving positions. This is a big deal. Continuity is important. [/quote

This is some valid insight Rja
Vet depth will be just that - vet depth  
Dave on the UWS : 5/3/2021 1:21 pm : link
We are NOT signing a pro bowler off the street. OL play around the league is very mediocre, at best! No one is giving up a competent player.
They are developing 4 young players. That’s a full days work. You can’t keep turning over OL every year. No continuity means no cohesion. Some people don’t seem to get that.
Over the last 10 years the issues have been as much about coaching as it did about the wrong players. (Ex: Flowers was a terrible tackle, but Washington at least tried him at guard , where he was serviceable. Did we do that? No, that’s a coaching issue)
Judge is a teacher. Everyone on his staff is too. He realizes that developing young players is how you get good and stay good.
Not expecting 2015 Trai Turner  
90.Cal : 5/3/2021 1:37 pm : link
But one down year with a new team and rookie QB and all of a sudden he is garbage? No. I dont think so. Zeitler was trash.
RE: Not expecting 2015 Trai Turner  
Spider56 : 5/3/2021 2:47 pm : link
In comment 15251758 90.Cal said:
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But one down year with a new team and rookie QB and all of a sudden he is garbage? No. I dont think so. Zeitler was trash.


Zeitler isn’t as good as he was 5 years ago but he’s not trash. The Ravens, who are usually very good assessing talent signed him to 3 years, $22M.
RE: Best remaining free agents  
Simms11 : 5/3/2021 4:29 pm : link
In comment 15251639 Archer said:
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I like Schwartz, Villaneuva, Link - ( New Window )


I like Villanueva too. Tough gritty player and a former Army Football player. Not sure what he has left, but he’d be good depth at least.
Question  
Jay on the Island : 5/3/2021 7:14 pm : link
Perhaps it was discussed already but why did Trey Smith fall all the way to the end of round 6? I'll be honest I loved the first four picks but I was disappointed that they passed on Trey Smith twice in the 6th round.

Going into the draft Trey Smith was expected to go in the 2nd or 3rd round range. Did the history of blood clots cause his fall?
RE: RE: People need to realize something  
fireitup77 : 5/3/2021 8:17 pm : link
In comment 15251541 Zeke's Alibi said:
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In comment 15251499 Rjanyg said:


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How the Giants handled our O line last year is very telling. They got Lemieux and Peart reps as starters many times, getting them valuable experience and allowing the coaches to see them in gameday situations. The coaches are not just projecting Peart and Lemieux, they are going off of last years play in a year where we had Solder opt out and no off season and a strange preseason. Gates had never played center before last season and progressively got better as the season went along. We all want to shit on Hernandez but he may actually be better on the right side dealing with 1 Tech DT rather than 3 techs and WLB.

The line will be working together for the 2nd straight year with only Hernandez moving positions. This is a big deal. Continuity is important.



Good post. I think the plan is hopefully Hernandez can find new life at RG. I'm not expert, but when I watch Hernandez in space it's like his feet move in cement, which is tough to block the athletes the NFL has on the second level in space. It isn't UTEP anymore.



Why does everyone assume that WH is moving to RG? When Zietler got hurt it was SL that moved to RG.
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