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ryanmkeane : 5/3/2021 1:41 pm
i will say, this is one of the better interviews I've heard him do. Giving very specific answers on everything including the OL
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RE: RE: 4-2 in the division and should have been 5-1.  
joeinpa : 5/3/2021 3:49 pm : link
In comment 15251885 jvm52106 said:
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In comment 15251822 Jimmy Googs said:


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is such weak-minded commentary that you wouldn't even want to hear from player no less a GM.

Hopefully the rest of it was better though as he had a good weekend...



Fuck you dude. I am so tired of you and few others. No matter what is said you just turn it to a negative. We were 4-2 in our own division and we should have been 5-1. That isn't a hope and dream it is a reality. Win your division games is not a loser mentality but instead a common reality for all 32 teams.


That s why you shouldn’t take some opinions here too seriously. Consistent negative takes on Jones and DG, show a strong bias that lacks objectivity.

Hard to defend DG s record, but equally hard to understand criticism of a benign statement about the division given this most recent performance.

They just don’t like the guy, their prerogative.
RE: 4-2 in the division and should have been 5-1.  
Grizz99 : 5/3/2021 3:52 pm : link
In comment 15251822 Jimmy Googs said:
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is such weak-minded commentary that you wouldn't even want to hear from player no less a GM.


Oh man that is rich. The sniper strikes, the negative man feels better about himself, he got to throw "snarky' into the mix and as usual offered nothing of substance. HE will sleep well this night. "wow, how kool I am, i got to put down Gettleman".
RE: RE: Denver drew first blood on NYG  
JonC : 5/3/2021 3:58 pm : link
In comment 15251883 OBJRoyal said:
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In comment 15251850 JonC said:


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by picking Surtain, long rumored to be Dallas' first choice.



I have a friend who is a Denver fan, and when theh took Surtain, I text him and said they f'd the draft up.


I said the same thing to Bill2, smh.
actually Carolina drew first blood by taking Horn  
Eric on Li : 5/3/2021 4:04 pm : link
Denver always seemed like a logical landing spot for Surtain.

And Dallas seemed very content to take either of Horn/Surtain.

Carolina was a tricky team in most mocks. Most probably had them going Slater. Some had them going with Parsons. I don't recall any giving them the CBs though.
Haven't seen this asked  
11 to 89 : 5/3/2021 4:16 pm : link
but do you think that Chicago would have made the same or essentially the same offer to Philly had they not traded with Dallas and we took Smith? Adds a bit to the question of would you rather have Smith or Toney and the picks.
that  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/3/2021 4:17 pm : link
was a really good interview. Credit goes to the two interviewing Gettleman too. They asked good questions. A rarity.
RE: Haven't seen this asked  
Sean : 5/3/2021 4:20 pm : link
In comment 15251985 11 to 89 said:
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but do you think that Chicago would have made the same or essentially the same offer to Philly had they not traded with Dallas and we took Smith? Adds a bit to the question of would you rather have Smith or Toney and the picks.

Great point, and I’m sure they would have. Philly would have done it too and been looking at 4(!) first round picks next year. I’m assuming the Wentz conditional pick will become a 1.
RE: RE: 4-2 in the division and should have been 5-1.  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2021 4:26 pm : link
In comment 15251963 Grizz99 said:
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In comment 15251822 Jimmy Googs said:


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is such weak-minded commentary that you wouldn't even want to hear from player no less a GM.




Oh man that is rich. The sniper strikes, the negative man feels better about himself, he got to throw "snarky' into the mix and as usual offered nothing of substance. HE will sleep well this night. "wow, how kool I am, i got to put down Gettleman".


Not really, I would have said the same to you had you posted it. Never like the woulda/coulda/shoulda especially from a GM that hasn't gotten his team to play for anything yet.

But as long as Peart becomes the next Jonathan Ogden like in your posts it shouldn't long now, right?

now I feel better...
Regarding the OL comment,  
MOOPS : 5/3/2021 5:22 pm : link
of the four he mentioned, 3 were rooks and 1 had 3 games experience. Wouldn't read anything into his failure to mention Hernandez.
RE: Haven't seen this asked  
ColHowPepper : 5/3/2021 6:19 pm : link
In comment 15251985 11 to 89 said:
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but do you think that Chicago would have made the same or essentially the same offer to Philly had they not traded with Dallas and we took Smith? Adds a bit to the question of would you rather have Smith or Toney and the picks.
Whoa, hadn't seen your handle before (two nice numbers of 1980s yore) and you're the same BBI Class as I. A reticent poster. (:

To your question, prolly the same, with Smith off the board in either case, assuming the asshat consensus is that we would have taken Smith. Philly did, so they wanted WR. Phrasing the question an operatively different way: would PHIL have bet Toney (or another WR they wanted) would last to 20. Maybe they go Slater or OVT.
RE: Jimmy  
giantstock : 5/3/2021 6:45 pm : link
In comment 15251870 ryanmkeane said:
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i get it, but you are proving what a lot of people have said correct...in that with some fans, no matter what DG does or says they will take issue with it


And you prove everyday what some of us have been saying for 3 years that there are some posters such as yourself that bow and kneel on the Resume Dave Altar.

You know the team has sucked for the last 3 years. You understand that, right? Year 4 in a historically bad conference this past year and this year we're still projected to be a 7 win team.

Sure things look good for us in year 5 of the DG era provided Jones is going to be good, but cut Jimmy some slack. This organization has "proven" that they still stink. Until you win, you stink.

One year slip is one thing - maybe 2. But even if you don't blame DG - there still has to a concern with the organization.

BTW, I've given the combined 2021 and 2022 at this moment in time right now - I've graded it an A.

I'm hopeful we can win. I'm hopeful DJ comes through. I'm hopeful the OL holds up.
giantstock  
ryanmkeane : 5/3/2021 7:28 pm : link
Nah, posters like you conflate everything and have the inability to separate what I’ve said, which is that I like what the team has done 2019 and onward, especially 2020. DG is a part of that, and way too many fans can’t get over the 2018 and Eli thing, and they aren’t willing to be patient on Jones.

But sure, keep beating the drum that I “bow at the altar” of this regime. I don’t - I’ve said I don’t agree with everything and I’m critical where it needs to be. Team needs to win, win the division, make the playoffs, make some noise, it’s time.

Just because I hold posters accountable for their bullshit doesn’t mean I’m
Some end all be all DG defender. I said 2018 was a disaster, I said Shurmur was a disaster. Everything else, I’m good with.

People like you are going to start looking really foolish in short order, but you’ll still come back here and bitch and moan about the next thing that you don’t like.
The interview is up on the WFAN site  
Ira : 5/3/2021 7:51 pm : link
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Link - ( New Window )
For the “bow to the alter” comments  
UConn4523 : 5/3/2021 8:21 pm : link
have you guys every asked yourself what it’s in it for anyone to “defend” Gettelman? If so what have you come up with for an answer?
Finally got around to listening  
mfsd : 5/3/2021 8:53 pm : link
good interview overall, DG seems to be enjoying himself more this year.

But good grief Maggie is so annoying
If there..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/3/2021 9:48 pm : link
was truly a "bow to the altar" group, I would expect a fair portion of posters to say that Gettleman is a great GM. Has anyone on this site made that argument?

What needs to be recognized is the hypocrisy when it comes to evaluating the GM. When it was pointed out that DG has the best ever GM record for Carolina, the response was that he didn't build the team and was jus ta beneficiary of it. But here, he's held accountable for years of losing.

Keep in mind that the several of the same posters who said he was "gifted" a stacked roster in Carolina are a few of the clowns who continually cite his record here. How many threads do we see a recap of his record here? Those are the same posters saying he only was good n Carolina because he inherited a good team (ignoring the fact that the "good team" still never had back to back winning seasons)
RE: For the “bow to the alter” comments  
Rory : 5/3/2021 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15252259 UConn4523 said:
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have you guys every asked yourself what it’s in it for anyone to “defend” Gettelman? If so what have you come up with for an answer?


how about this..

For about 5-6 years this place was enamored and utterly jealous and confused why the Cowboys had such a talented offensive line. An for those 5 years Reese failed to focus on the line properly to protect Eli Manning and give him enough time to win a 3rd SB.

DG comes on board and gives every Giant fan what they wished for years, it cost money but Nate Solder was supposed to be the LT bookend to get Giants back to the championship.

Now DG is in his 4th year as GM and has consistently attributed resources to build what BBI'ers have bitching about for years. Last years draft was calculated and directed strictly to the Offensive line.

So fucking A we have a GM who appreciates the trenches and has a done a promising job upgrading it.

so take a fucking bow
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ryanmkeane : 5/3/2021 10:02 pm : link
yeah, Maggie is basically unlistenable at this point. just brutal radio
RE: If there..  
wigs in nyc : 5/3/2021 10:38 pm : link
In comment 15252435 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was truly a "bow to the altar" group, I would expect a fair portion of posters to say that Gettleman is a great GM. Has anyone on this site made that argument?

What needs to be recognized is the hypocrisy when it comes to evaluating the GM. When it was pointed out that DG has the best ever GM record for Carolina, the response was that he didn't build the team and was jus ta beneficiary of it. But here, he's held accountable for years of losing.

on friggin point. Is there anyone who thinks DG belongs in the Canton? It’s as if suggesting that the evaluation of his performance as NYG GM might benefit from some nuance makes someone a lollipop-licking twirly-hat wearing naive little bitch.

Whenever you find yourself channelling all of your frustrations through a lone source (or two), that should be a wakeup call that some persective is needed. Life is rarely that simple.
Keep in mind that the several of the same posters who said he was "gifted" a stacked roster in Carolina are a few of the clowns who continually cite his record here. How many threads do we see a recap of his record here? Those are the same posters saying he only was good n Carolina because he inherited a good team (ignoring the fact that the "good team" still never had back to back winning seasons)
RE: RE: For the “bow to the alter” comments  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15252444 Rory said:
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In comment 15252259 UConn4523 said:


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have you guys every asked yourself what it’s in it for anyone to “defend” Gettelman? If so what have you come up with for an answer?



how about this..

For about 5-6 years this place was enamored and utterly jealous and confused why the Cowboys had such a talented offensive line. An for those 5 years Reese failed to focus on the line properly to protect Eli Manning and give him enough time to win a 3rd SB.

DG comes on board and gives every Giant fan what they wished for years, it cost money but Nate Solder was supposed to be the LT bookend to get Giants back to the championship.

Now DG is in his 4th year as GM and has consistently attributed resources to build what BBI'ers have bitching about for years. Last years draft was calculated and directed strictly to the Offensive line.

So fucking A we have a GM who appreciates the trenches and has a done a promising job upgrading it.

so take a fucking bow


If this is the defending group, I’ll stay where I am for a little longer...
RE: RE: RE: 4-2 in the division and should have been 5-1.  
section125 : 5/3/2021 11:17 pm : link
In comment 15251856 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15251840 ryanmkeane said:


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In comment 15251822 Jimmy Googs said:


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is such weak-minded commentary that you wouldn't even want to hear from player no less a GM.

Hopefully the rest of it was better though as he had a good weekend...


is he wrong? i thought it was refreshing. Maybe listen to the interview before giving a comment. He was very up front about everything.



You want to talk about how easy 4-2 could have been 3-3 as well? Easy does it here...


Damn you are always the condescending whiny ass?
RE: If there..  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15252435 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was truly a "bow to the altar" group, I would expect a fair portion of posters to say that Gettleman is a great GM. Has anyone on this site made that argument?

What needs to be recognized is the hypocrisy when it comes to evaluating the GM. When it was pointed out that DG has the best ever GM record for Carolina, the response was that he didn't build the team and was jus ta beneficiary of it. But here, he's held accountable for years of losing.

Keep in mind that the several of the same posters who said he was "gifted" a stacked roster in Carolina are a few of the clowns who continually cite his record here. How many threads do we see a recap of his record here? Those are the same posters saying he only was good n Carolina because he inherited a good team (ignoring the fact that the "good team" still never had back to back winning seasons)


As soon as the word hypocrisy enters a post, it’s usually time to stop reading it...
RE: That hate for Engram on this site  
Dave in Hoboken : 5/3/2021 11:20 pm : link
In comment 15251939 RollBlue said:
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is WAY over the top. Jones was not afraid to throw him the ball, and sometimes tried to force in throws that shouldn't have been made. As mentioned above, Cee Dee Lamb had a big drop against us, and I saw several drops in the playoffs.

I understand a certain level of frustration with EE, but damn near every team said he was the only guy on offense they needed to be concerned with.

Now with a few more new weapons, and Barkley back, let's see how he performs.


You're lost.
RE: my view on Hernandez  
allstarjim : 5/3/2021 11:28 pm : link
In comment 15251938 ryanmkeane said:
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is basically that he hasn't gotten better, but also really hasn't gotten worse. He is the same player that we drafted. A guy that can play every snap, won't kill you, but also won't really make a difference out there. He flashed as a rookie, and has since basically been average.

Not sure what to make of it. If we want a "dominant" OL, Hernandez really can't be a part of that solution. Then again, we have a new OL coach, more weapons, hopefully an improving Jones, Barkley back....perhaps these are positives that will make any offensive lineman seem better? I don't know. All i know is that it is a real bummer that Hernandez hasn't lived up to the billing.


What never gets talked about wrt Hernandez over the course of last year is that he was better than Lemieux. And you can say he should outplay a mid-round rook and I'll agree, but the point remains.

Hopefully a year past COVID will result in good things. Obviously I want both players to play exceptionally.
RE: RE: RE: RE: 4-2 in the division and should have been 5-1.  
Jimmy Googs : 5/3/2021 11:32 pm : link
In comment 15252597 section125 said:
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In comment 15251856 Jimmy Googs said:


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In comment 15251840 ryanmkeane said:


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In comment 15251822 Jimmy Googs said:


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is such weak-minded commentary that you wouldn't even want to hear from player no less a GM.

Hopefully the rest of it was better though as he had a good weekend...


is he wrong? i thought it was refreshing. Maybe listen to the interview before giving a comment. He was very up front about everything.



You want to talk about how easy 4-2 could have been 3-3 as well? Easy does it here...



Damn you are always the condescending whiny ass?


Then hang out with Rory section. I am sure you two have plenty to talk about...
RE: ryanmk  
giantstock : 5/4/2021 2:49 am : link
In comment 15252191 ryanmkeane said:
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Nah, posters like you conflate everything and have the inability to separate what I’ve said, which is that I like what the team has done 2019 and onward, especially 2020. DG is a part of that, and way too many fans can’t get over the 2018 and Eli thing, and they aren’t willing to be patient on Jones.

But sure, keep beating the drum that I “bow at the altar” of this regime. I don’t - I’ve said I don’t agree with everything and I’m critical where it needs to be. Team needs to win, win the division, make the playoffs, make some noise, it’s time.

Just because I hold posters accountable for their bullshit doesn’t mean I’m
Some end all be all DG defender. I said 2018 was a disaster, I said Shurmur was a disaster. Everything else, I’m good with.

People like you are going to start looking really foolish in short order, but you’ll still come back here and bitch and moan about the next thing that you don’t like.


Nah you're doing what you do best and that's covering how you bow at the altar of DG as some others do on here. You'll pick on DG for something worthless and pretend like you are being critical.

In regards to people like me - people like me want DG to do well. But ofc it makes you feel better that you think I'm supposed to be "embarassed" in some manner if my team wins because I've ben pissed they 've sucked for so long. That's the mindset of a 4 year old.

If he does well we win. I was even on board for keeping him when they dumped the coach. I'm okay with Jones right now (but hated the pick way back but okay now)- I would love nothing more than to watch the Giants win. And when they eventually do - I win you win etc.

But until then hearing you whine about other posters that complain that this team has sucked for so long while you keep waving your pom-poms - The team is projected to win 7 games this year in a lousy conference, and do I have to go over how many wins that have had the other years with DG?

A final point. I want to be able to call DG a "GM God." But yeah until they start winning - there's generally a reason to bitch. Because the object of the game is to win. You understand that, right? And if you lose it generally means you aren't playing well, right? SO until they do at least I can count on you to keep waving them pom poms.
RE: RE: If there..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/4/2021 7:28 am : link
In comment 15252612 Jimmy Googs said:
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In comment 15252435 FatMan in Charlotte said:


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was truly a "bow to the altar" group, I would expect a fair portion of posters to say that Gettleman is a great GM. Has anyone on this site made that argument?

What needs to be recognized is the hypocrisy when it comes to evaluating the GM. When it was pointed out that DG has the best ever GM record for Carolina, the response was that he didn't build the team and was jus ta beneficiary of it. But here, he's held accountable for years of losing.

Keep in mind that the several of the same posters who said he was "gifted" a stacked roster in Carolina are a few of the clowns who continually cite his record here. How many threads do we see a recap of his record here? Those are the same posters saying he only was good n Carolina because he inherited a good team (ignoring the fact that the "good team" still never had back to back winning seasons)



As soon as the word hypocrisy enters a post, it’s usually time to stop reading it...


And yet you read it, Clownshoes.

Jimmy Clownshoes. Annoying noises, no utility.
And then I stopped...  
Jimmy Googs : 5/4/2021 8:51 am : link
can't you read?
Sorry..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/4/2021 8:58 am : link
I saw you post something about hypocrisy and was laughing too hard after that.

You are a walking, babbling Hypocrite. A poster who tells others how to post and to take breaks, yet when given a chance to take a break when banned did what? Immediately started posting under a dupe handle, LBH15. For a year!! And when called out, what did the Hypocrite do? Vigorously deny he was a dupe and even said some happy horseshit like, "That Googs guy really did a number, huh?"

That's why you're Jimmy Clownshoes. What should be completely sad is now funny. Clownshoes. Annoying, squeaky noises with no utility! Fucking clown
Noticed hypocrisy again  
Jimmy Googs : 5/4/2021 9:14 am : link
so stopped reading.

You're comic relief...
Ryan  
Vanzetti : 5/4/2021 9:42 am : link
Thanks for summarizing

Much appreciated
If you like Evan Engram  
ArcadeSlumlord : 5/4/2021 9:47 am : link
you dont watch Giants football. You are fareweather or a fantasy fan, not a Giants fan. That bonehead costs us more games than wins us. Dropping him from the roster would be addition by subtraction. His football IQ is terrible.
RE: If there..  
SleepyOwl : 5/4/2021 1:46 pm : link
In comment 15252435 FatMan in Charlotte said:
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was truly a "bow to the altar" group, I would expect a fair portion of posters to say that Gettleman is a great GM. Has anyone on this site made that argument?

What needs to be recognized is the hypocrisy when it comes to evaluating the GM. When it was pointed out that DG has the best ever GM record for Carolina, the response was that he didn't build the team and was jus ta beneficiary of it. But here, he's held accountable for years of losing.

Keep in mind that the several of the same posters who said he was "gifted" a stacked roster in Carolina are a few of the clowns who continually cite his record here. How many threads do we see a recap of his record here? Those are the same posters saying he only was good n Carolina because he inherited a good team (ignoring the fact that the "good team" still never had back to back winning seasons)


+1 Nor do they have the mental acuity to understand what a dumpster fire this team was under Reese, Ross and McAdoo.

Sometimes all we need is a simple reminder.
McAdoo lost the Giants locker room - ( New Window )
This thread is hilarious.  
RicFlair : 5/4/2021 1:53 pm : link
Lol.
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