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NFT: KNICKS VS. GRIZZLIES. 9PM

larryflower37 : 5/3/2021 7:18 pm
I am sitting in Gus's famous fried chicken in downtown Memphis.
Big game tonight and Knicks fans are out in Memphis.
Brutal 5 game stretch starts tonight.

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nygiants16  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/4/2021 3:53 pm : link
I'd be shocked too.
Rose know what's out there.  
larryflower37 : 5/4/2021 4:24 pm : link
He will definitely be back if we pay him.
It might take 2 years at 30 million.
He is making 10 million now.
We need to draft a PG to be ready behind him.
I  
DanMetroMan : 5/4/2021 4:27 pm : link
assume he'll be back but ya never know what happens when a "legit" contender comes calling.
RE: Rose know what's out there.  
Enzo : 5/4/2021 4:33 pm : link
In comment 15253630 larryflower37 said:
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He will definitely be back if we pay him.
It might take 2 years at 30 million.
He is making 10 million now.
We need to draft a PG to be ready behind him.

his current deal is 2/15. Mid-level projects to be about $10 million this year. That might be the top of his market. Same with Burks. Where the luxury tax number ends up might have a big impact on free agency as well.
Brooks  
DanMetroMan : 5/4/2021 4:37 pm : link
coach of the Month
RE: Brooks  
Anakim : 5/4/2021 4:37 pm : link
In comment 15253656 DanMetroMan said:
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coach of the Month


What horseshit
Both Pelle and Noel are questionable for tomorrow's game  
Anakim : 5/4/2021 5:43 pm : link
Mitch is already out, so that means we may very well be looking at Taj and small-ball
RE: RE: Brooks  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/4/2021 7:03 pm : link
In comment 15253657 Anakim said:
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coach of the Month



What horseshit


I don't disagree, but the Wizards turnaround in itself has been UFB.
RE: RE: RE: And between the 5 techs in 30 seconds, Ja being a total baby  
chopperhatch : 5/4/2021 9:13 pm : link
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Grayson Allen being a piece of shit and Valanciunas being an unpleasant player to watch, I really enjoyed the Knicks taking care of business last night. Two franchises in completely different places right now.

RJ clapping when Ja got sent off was a lot of fun too.



I missed that, but that makes me smile (RJ clapping).


It was an epic meltdown for the Grizz. They played hard but completely fell apart in crunch time. Here you go - Ja tantrum, RJ likes it. - ( New Window )


I think he was clapping because, for all intents and purposes, that iced the game for sure. There was still over a minute left and another Tech meant we go up 12....no way they would come back from that.
Who are we rooting for, Mavs  
Jon in NYC : 5/4/2021 9:20 pm : link
or Heat?
RE: Both Pelle and Noel are questionable for tomorrow's game  
Del Shofner : 5/4/2021 9:21 pm : link
In comment 15253757 Anakim said:
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Mitch is already out, so that means we may very well be looking at Taj and small-ball


What happened to Pelle?
RE: Who are we rooting for, Mavs  
nygiants16 : 5/4/2021 9:28 pm : link
In comment 15254043 Jon in NYC said:
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or Heat?


mavs
RE: RE: Both Pelle and Noel are questionable for tomorrow's game  
Anakim : 5/4/2021 9:29 pm : link
In comment 15254045 Del Shofner said:
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Mitch is already out, so that means we may very well be looking at Taj and small-ball



What happened to Pelle?


Sprained ankle
RE: Who are we rooting for, Mavs  
guitarguybs12 : 5/4/2021 9:31 pm : link
In comment 15254043 Jon in NYC said:
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or Heat?


Heat. Knicks lose the H2H tiebreaker against them.

Mavs are going to take the 6th anyways, so no hope for a higher draft pick. Way easier schedule than the Blazers.
RE: RE: Who are we rooting for, Mavs  
guitarguybs12 : 5/4/2021 9:32 pm : link
In comment 15254062 guitarguybs12 said:
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or Heat?



Heat. Knicks lose the H2H tiebreaker against them.

Mavs are going to take the 6th anyways, so no hope for a higher draft pick. Way easier schedule than the Blazers.


Correction. Rooting for Mavs lol
Mavs up 19  
nygiants16 : 5/4/2021 9:43 pm : link
..
You think  
nygiants16 : 5/4/2021 9:45 pm : link
the Nets, Sixers or Bucks want to see Celtics, Heat or maybe the Wizards who are red hot?
RE: You think  
Jon in NYC : 5/4/2021 9:52 pm : link
In comment 15254082 nygiants16 said:
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the Nets, Sixers or Bucks want to see Celtics, Heat or maybe the Wizards who are red hot?


The Heat seem to have taken a real step back from last year. Tatum can go off any night and Westbrook is playing amazing basketball right now. They both scare me more than Jimmy Butler right now.
Nets lose twice in a row to the Bucks  
dpinzow : 5/4/2021 10:11 pm : link
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Knicks need Phoenix to win tomorrow,  
shockeyisthebest8056 : 5/4/2021 10:21 pm : link
then they’ll only need one win out west to come home no worse than tied for fourth. Phoenix will be playing second of back to back on the road and went to OT tonight versus shitty Cleveland.
Miami doesn't scary me  
larryflower37 : 5/4/2021 10:34 pm : link
They have 6 to play.
2 against sixers and bucks.
2 against the Celtics.

If they go 3-3 that is 38 wins.

Knicks have 7 to play and have 37 wins currently.
Someone on this board was saying the other day  
Leg of Theismann : 5/4/2021 10:55 pm : link
If the Mavs somehow end up w/ a lottery pick then the Knicks don't get the pick... but I think that's wrong. I'm reading that the pick is unprotected. (Mavs aren't getting a lottery pick likely anyway but still)
RE: Miami doesn't scary me  
Leg of Theismann : 5/4/2021 11:15 pm : link
In comment 15254133 larryflower37 said:
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They have 6 to play.
2 against sixers and bucks.
2 against the Celtics.

If they go 3-3 that is 38 wins.

Knicks have 7 to play and have 37 wins currently.


That was HUGE that the Heat lost tonight. Even if we go 2-5 the rest of the way (which I think is like the WORST-case scenario), the Heat would need to finish 4-2 to finish ahead of us. With back-to-back games against the Celtics and then the Bucks and Sixers I see them finishing 3-3 as well.

I think we have like an 80% chance of finishing as the 4 or 5 seed... 85% if the Suns beat the Hawks tomorrow... but I honestly think that falls to like 50/50 if we don't beat the Celtics in that final game of the reg season. That's gonna be a key game no matter how you slice it.

40 wins (i.e. finish 3-4) definitely secures us the 4 or 5 seed... w/ 39 wins it's a little dicey and again it will then depend then on the outcome of our game against Boston in that scenario. But honestly, if you think abou that-- it's kinda nice to know we could lose 5 of our next 6 and STILL have a shot at the 5 seed by beating the Celtics in that finale at MSG.
btw  
Leg of Theismann : 5/4/2021 11:18 pm : link
Raptors just beat the Lakers and they may very well beat the Clippers tonight. If they can beat the 2 LA teams essentially back-to-back then we should be able to too. (Although the Lakers do look like they could be "back" now somewhat with that win over the Nuggets)
RE: RE: RE: Both Pelle and Noel are questionable for tomorrow's game  
Leg of Theismann : 5/4/2021 11:28 pm : link
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Mitch is already out, so that means we may very well be looking at Taj and small-ball



What happened to Pelle?



Sprained ankle


Ugh holy shit. Playing Jokic is not the game you want to play with only one aging center. And I love Taj and think he’s great but how many minutes is he gonna be able to play and who the hell is stopping Jokic when Taj sits? I usually don’t say put up the white flag but if it’s a 20 point Nuggets lead at the half I would be in favor of resting our guys and getting ready to hopefully beat the Suns or Clippers.

Then again I bet the Knicks find a way to shoot 60% from 3 or some shit and make it come down to the last possession just because we’ll they always do haha
Nuggets are going to be tough  
larryflower37 : 5/4/2021 11:31 pm : link
If Noel and Pelle can't go.
Randle and Taj would need to guard Jokić.
On the plus side  
larryflower37 : 5/4/2021 11:36 pm : link
Denver and the Clippers have pretty much locked up the top 4 in the west with a 6 game lead on Dallas.
I could see LA rest people against us because of how physical we play.
RE: On the plus side  
Leg of Theismann : 5/5/2021 2:27 am : link
In comment 15254170 larryflower37 said:
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Denver and the Clippers have pretty much locked up the top 4 in the west with a 6 game lead on Dallas.
I could see LA rest people against us because of how physical we play.


Ah man I really hope so. How the hell do we stop Jokic with only 1 center and 2 PFs? My buddy and I were just getting super pessimistic about this next 4-game stretch with possibly only 3 C/PFs (that unfortunately also reduces our overall physicality that those teams would try to avoid right?)

What do you guys expect as far as the lineups tomorrow? Taj can only play so many minutes at his age and we need to conserve him for however long the other dudes are out. When Taj comes out I guess we'll play Randle and Obi at the 5 and 4 respectively (or vice versa). But Randle can't play the whole damn game either. At some point I have to imagine 2 of those 3 will be sitting (Taj, Randle, Obi) and then what's the lineup? I think Knox is the only other POSSIBLE PF but no way do I want him on the floor at all. Move RJ to the 4 maybe? He probably plays the best inside of any of our remaining guys... imagine a lineup for a few minutes of: Randle-Barrett-Bullock-Burks-Quickley lol they could just shoot 3s on every possession. Plenty of small ball tomorrow for sure.

We should prob just forfeit tomorrow lol I'm serious what's the point in stretching our guys thin in the middle of a treacherous road trip in a game we are definitely going to lose anyway? I think at the very least there's a strong possibility if we're down by 20 at the half Thibs will rest our starters in the 2nd half.
Part of me actually likes the idea of  
Leg of Theismann : 5/5/2021 2:30 am : link
keeping Randle at the 4 and playing Obi at the 5. We need Randle to play his natural position because he's going to need a huge game tomorrow to win. Meanwhile: Obi has a 7'2" wingspan and can jump out of the gym so I'm going to trust him with the rim protection and hopefully he can slow down Jokic a bit with his pure athleticism alone.

Jokic is going to score like 80 points and we're going to have to shoot 90% from 3 lol
If the Knicks beat the Celtics  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2021 7:21 am : link
and they go 3-4, Hawks have to go 5-1, Heat 5-1 and Boston 7-0

if knicks 2-5, Hawks 4-2, Heat 4-2, Boston 6-1

I just want 1 more win on this road trip, now if they win tonight i am going to be greedy
Having 3 of your 4 centers injured when it's time to play Jokic  
Heisenberg : 5/5/2021 7:55 am : link
is less than ideal.
RE: If the Knicks beat the Celtics  
larryflower37 : 5/5/2021 11:02 am : link
In comment 15254241 nygiants16 said:
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and they go 3-4, Hawks have to go 5-1, Heat 5-1 and Boston 7-0

if knicks 2-5, Hawks 4-2, Heat 4-2, Boston 6-1

I just want 1 more win on this road trip, now if they win tonight i am going to be greedy

I know this sounds crazy but I think we go 2-2 in the next 4.
Sets us up to close out 3 straight at home for the playoffs.
I think this team is too hungry and has a ton to prove.
It makes it dangerous vs. Anyone out there.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/5/2021 11:06 am : link
The way this team is playing...4-0 is entirely possible. Probable? No, but this team is rolling right now. I fear no one. Sucks but I'll be DVRing this game & will watch tomorrow morning. I hate these late starts, but se la vie.
We haven't won in Denver in a LONG time.  
bceagle05 : 5/5/2021 11:07 am : link
I think we're due for a W out there.
It's a loss in my mind  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/5/2021 11:11 am : link
and that's okay. Denver is an outstanding team.
RE: We haven't won in Denver in a LONG time.  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/5/2021 11:11 am : link
In comment 15254526 bceagle05 said:
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I think we're due for a W out there.


Gotta be a decade plus since we won there. Maybe more.
RE: ...  
Jon in NYC : 5/5/2021 11:14 am : link
In comment 15254523 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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The way this team is playing...4-0 is entirely possible. Probable? No, but this team is rolling right now. I fear no one. Sucks but I'll be DVRing this game & will watch tomorrow morning. I hate these late starts, but se la vie.


Lol fuck that. I'll be ecstatic with 2-2, 1-3 is what I'm expecting.
RE: RE: We haven't won in Denver in a LONG time.  
larryflower37 : 5/5/2021 11:21 am : link
In comment 15254532 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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I think we're due for a W out there.



Gotta be a decade plus since we won there. Maybe more.

Looks like the 3 seed in the west will get the Lakers
4 seed gets Dallas.
Wonder if Clippers and Nuggets jockey for position to get Dallas or LA.
...  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/5/2021 11:23 am : link
Jon, it's a weird year. Yeah, Denver's good but this is also the same Nuggets team that completely wetted themselves in a game vs. the Cs a couple of weeks back before Murray got injured. Any given night.
Nuggets have zero bench  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2021 11:25 am : link
no monte morris or will barton, obviously no Murray..

Bench will be huge in this game

nygiants  
SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/5/2021 11:26 am : link
Yup on Denver's bench. I watched that Cs Nuggets game-believe it was a Sunday afternoon?-& their bench completely let Boston back into the game. They were awful.
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nygiants16 : 5/5/2021 11:27 am : link
In comment 15254560 SFGFNCGiantsFan said:
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Jon, it's a weird year. Yeah, Denver's good but this is also the same Nuggets team that completely wetted themselves in a game vs. the Cs a couple of weeks back before Murray got injured. Any given night.


They were up 20 in that game and the bench came in and gave away thr game
Austin Rivers may be their starting 2 guard  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2021 11:55 am : link
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RE: Austin Rivers may be their starting 2 guard  
Jon in NYC : 5/5/2021 11:55 am : link
In comment 15254639 nygiants16 said:
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AUSTIN RIVERS REVENGE GAME
This Knicks team is literally capable of anything right now  
Stu11 : 5/5/2021 12:35 pm : link
You think Thibs is planning to throw in the towel tonight because we're short at C? Think again. He's busy devising a game plan to deal with it. Often as fans we overrate our team. That's not the case right now with this Knicks group. Listening to NBA radio all the time lately the true NBA analysts, I'm not talking about the hot take buffoons on ESPN or even TNT(the disgraceful job those little Lebron ass kissers Shaq and Wade went to defend his play in comments last night was a joke)I'm talking the analyst who live breath and take in the sweat in NBA arenas every night are gushing about this team. Antonio Daniels the Pels color guy was over the top yesterday. Said he was sold prior to the game in NO a few weeks back, but after he watched the job they did on Zion in the 4th quarter he was astounded. Hadn't seen something like that in a long time. I guarentee outside of maybe a healthy Miami team the top 3 in the east want to play us the least of anyone in the 2nd rd. Let teams worry about us for once. How nice is that? I mean even Frank Isola is straining to say something bad about the Knicks these days...
Isola is too busy  
Enzo : 5/5/2021 12:36 pm : link
taking his victory lap on Thibs to say anything critical, for now. But don't worry, it's coming.
6k fans may 19th at the garden  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2021 12:43 pm : link
its going to sound like a packed house becaus eit is all diehards
Admittedly I'm not a fan of paying for online content  
Stu11 : 5/5/2021 12:58 pm : link
But godamn the Athletic is so worth it. Mike Vorkunov has such a great piece in there today about Rose and what he has meant for the team. Holy crap the metrics are off the charts especially the way it affects Toppin and IQ. Their efficiency skyrockets playing next to him. The Lnicks have the 6th best offense in the NBA since March 27. Rose has transformed his game. His shooting off the dribble has gotten so much better and he's relying less and less on the drives which cuts down on the wear and tear. He's at 45% on non-corner 3's which is in the 100th percentile in the league. My god he's been more valuable than any trade acquisition outside of Harden in the whole league.
You saw against Memphis  
nygiants16 : 5/5/2021 1:01 pm : link
The bench for the Knicks is so dangerous that Memphis had to go with mostly starters so the lead didnt extend more...you are going to see teams doing this more, Knicks during this winnning have created 10 to 12 point leads to start the 4th and not let teams back in..
If it wasn't for Brooks and Bane shooting the lights out in  
Stu11 : 5/5/2021 1:04 pm : link
The 2nd half. The Knick would have cruised by 20-25.
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