It has been well discussed the interest Meyer had in Toney, but one interesting take is the below quote
"However, Meyer seemed to shoot down the idea that Toney would have fit the same role as the player the team eventually picked at 25th, Clemson running back Travis Etienne. He said the staff didn’t think Toney had the ability to run the ball in the NFL."
I wonder what they saw in him to say that? Did they think they could use him as a RB slash WR?
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My guess is that when Jax said they "didn’t think Toney had the ability to run the ball in the NFL" they likely meant as a pure RB instead of a WR. Clearly Toney can get significant YAC when you throw him the ball.
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Which is not to say he was trying to be misleading, but giving a perfectly clear report of a player his team did not select would not have been the highest priority while answering one of these questions.
Tyreek Hill's season high in carries was 24 so that's 1.5 per game and that seems about right for Toney based on what I saw of him thus far.
Toney of course is the complement.
Travis has the advantage of having played with Lawrence all 3 years of Trevor's Clemson career.
He surprised everyone by coming back for his 4th year in order to have another shot at the Championship (like Dexter Lawrence the previous year). He was one of the preseason mentions for the Heisman (along with Trevor).
Etienne broke Clemson's rushing records, previously set by BBI favorite Wayne "the Train" Gallman.
The Giants should draw up some mad schemes and plays like I used to do in high school when I was bored in class. LOL
It's to Toney's (and our) benefit that didn't happen because that's not Toney's strength.
This, hell, Saquon is like 235 and he can’t even stay healthy. So a 190 pound receiver can’t carry that kind of load either.
‘ We couldn’t land Toney but we settled for the the #2 guy on our board’ doesn’t sell well to the #2 guy.
Even Judge. We have faith in Jones, we train them up, it doesn't matter what your draft pick was. I want him to say that and the players do too, maybe, but I don't believe any positive words about players because that is all you will ever here.
Not a critique of Judge, he does it well.
Even Judge. We have faith in Jones, we train them up, it doesn't matter what your draft pick was. I want him to say that and the players do too, maybe, but I don't believe any positive words about players because that is all you will ever here.
Not a critique of Judge, he does it well.
So what do you do between the Supebowl and September?
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players or draft picks.
Even Judge. We have faith in Jones, we train them up, it doesn't matter what your draft pick was. I want him to say that and the players do too, maybe, but I don't believe any positive words about players because that is all you will ever here.
Not a critique of Judge, he does it well.
So what do you do between the Supebowl and September?
? lots of things.
I think it is a real positive Judge says nothing but positive affirmative things about his players to the public. Great. But the players are not all great and he is going to cut some of them. He is just not going to talk to you about it.
So I don't believe all the positive spin about all the players because I understand why JJ has to say those things.
But I have no idea what Meyer and the Jags staff are suggesting about Toney as a RB/running option. Toney is a WR with terrific WR skills who might be useful in some exotic running plays.
In other words Judge isn’t saying anything to allude you, he’s giving these guys an opportunity to come in and make an impact and he brought them here because they do at least 1 thing well - up to them to take the opportunity and run with it, or not.
Yup just saw this article. Toney was def hot player among nfl teams and he was never going to get out of 1st round.
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Were hoping Toney would fall to the 29th pick
Yup just saw this article. Toney was def hot player among nfl teams and he was never going to get out of 1st round. Link - ( New Window )
There's a website that aggregates the mock drafts across the internet in one spot. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2021/kadarius-toney
No one had him going in the second round. The latest was pick 32.
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Were hoping Toney would fall to the 29th pick
Yup just saw this article. Toney was def hot player among nfl teams and he was never going to get out of 1st round. Link - ( New Window )
There's a website that aggregates the mock drafts across the internet in one spot. https://www.nflmockdraftdatabase.com/players/2021/kadarius-toney
No one had him going in the second round. The latest was pick 32.
Interesting site. Quite a few mocks had him going to Chicago at #20. A couple even had him going a couple spots earlier. So, I would not say he was poor value at all.