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OliverG84 : 5/4/2021 10:49 am
Painting my in-laws kitchen (currently a deep dark green) & they want a light-ish peach-type color. My friend swears by Sherwin Williams, a little on the expensive side.
Has anyone else had experience with any specific paint going from dark color to light - what did you use?

Thanks in advance!
Killz works best  
robrosz : 5/4/2021 10:55 am : link
Apply one coat of Killz and then paint away. I had a brown kitchen and it was pretty easy to cover once I put the Killz on it. Its a bit aromatic so have proper ventilation.
Benjamin and Moore there is no substitute  
gtt350 : 5/4/2021 10:57 am : link
forget price
I concur on Benjamin Moore  
GiantBlue : 5/4/2021 11:08 am : link
We use it exclusively in our house.....but the Kilz idea works to as a good primer.

I would stay away from Glidden and Sherwin Williams from my experience.

Does this work?  
mort christenson : 5/4/2021 11:09 am : link
SW runs 30-40% off sales all the time  
oghwga : 5/4/2021 11:56 am : link
Benjamin Moore is just as nice. (Usually available at Ace Hardware)

Good tip on the Kilz, it is great primer. If you're in Central NJ, just go to Sipersteins, they'll hook you up.
BM for the win,  
beechbouy : 5/4/2021 12:22 pm : link
if you don't mind paying the $$$. Behr is a good alternative if you're looking to save some $$$.
Jim in Fairfax : 5/4/2021 1:25 pm : link
First: Take the time to clean the walls. Most people skip this and it’s a bad decision, especially in a kitchen which likely has grease on the walls. Dirtex is a great cleaning solution for walls. For a kitchen, I’d clean it at least twice.

Second: Give the walls a good look over and do any drywall patching/skimming as needed

Third: Apply a quality primer. Don’t buy into the paint/primer in one marketing BS.

Fourth: Consider sheen. You dont want flat in a kitchen. I’d recommend satin.

Fifth: Benjamin Moore is great paint but really expensive. Pros use it for several reasons besides it’s quality: they’re used to how it applies, the stores are very contractor friendly, and historically Big Box paint was far inferior. But the last has changed. Behr Ultra or Marquee are both great paints for less.

Sixth: If you’re buying more than one can, “box in” the paint. Pour them all in a 5 gallon bucket and mix together well. Otherwise you could notice a slight color change where you changed cans while painting.

Seventh: Apply two coats. Especially when going from dark to light, but even if not. Otherwise you end up painting slower to avoid missing spots which can lead to a really bad result if you paint over a tacky edge.

Love Benjamin Moore, but have had positive experience with  
Dinger : 5/4/2021 1:59 pm : link
Behr as well. I believe the key is, unfortunately, 3 coats(at least). I had a red kitchen, really deep maroon. We went to a 'vanilla icing' cream yellow/white. It took 3 coats to get a good solid color and felt it was up to the color on the card. You can do a primer and then the color but I still believe altogether it will require at least 3 coast to get it done right.
Contractor here...  
PA Aggie : 5/4/2021 3:04 pm : link
what Jim said, is about as good a job as you can do. I will only add, that prepping the walls with a bright light on an angle really helps you too see the flaws. It depends how much of a perfectionist you are, and what are the expectations of the 'customer'.

For an entire gallon of paint, that you will cover hundreds of square feet, and not have to, or want to, paint for years to come...please spend the extra $15 to $20 for Ben Moore Advanced. If ever painting cabinets, same prep, but use their Satin Impervo oil based (24 hours drying between coats). Yes, you can still find it if you look hard for it, I use it regularly.
We went from dark to light with Behr  
Csonka : 5/4/2021 5:33 pm : link
They have 3 levels. Go with the top level. Almost covered with one coat but the 2nd absolutely did the job.
RE: Benjamin and Moore there is no substitute  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/4/2021 6:52 pm : link
In comment 15253045 gtt350 said:
forget price

Tint the primer  
if_i_knew : 5/5/2021 8:09 am : link
You can also tint the primer to be the same as the end color
RE: Killz works best  
Beer Man : 5/5/2021 1:53 pm : link
In comment 15253040 robrosz said:
Apply one coat of Killz and then paint away. I had a brown kitchen and it was pretty easy to cover once I put the Killz on it. Its a bit aromatic so have proper ventilation.
Agree on the Killz, its great at covering old paint. You may have to put on two coats, but it will be worth it (plus you don't have to wait very long between coats)
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