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Perplexed by dearth of undrafted free agent signings....

Milton : 5/4/2021 12:42 pm
Do we still only know of the three (2 OL, 1 ER)? Other teams are announcing ten or more? There has to be a bunch that haven't been made public, but usually the player or the agent will post it on social media, even if the team is holding out until it's official.

This isn't a year when the Giants had extra draft picks, they only had six. And none in the 7th round so they had all that time to lay the groundwork for the free agency part of the draft. And with only six draft picks to compete against, you would think the Giants would be an attractive destination for undrafted hopefuls.

I'm surprised there hasn't been more discussion on it. It's just so unusual. Did I miss something??? With rookie minicamp on May 14, I guess we'll eventually be hearing more names. Hard to conduct camp with only nine players.
Lack of spots I think.  
Angel Eyes : 5/4/2021 12:44 pm : link
We're pretty close to the 90-player limit.
It is an issue leaguewide  
Mike in NY : 5/4/2021 12:45 pm : link
I think more teams are preferring to have more people coming from tryouts than in past years if players actually show up.
Beside lack of spots  
mushroom : 5/4/2021 12:48 pm : link
Due to covid there appears to a lack of quality candidates.Couple that with the limited info on those that are available I think they decided to roll with know quantities that are already on the roster.
I think Miami only signed  
Jay on the Island : 5/4/2021 12:50 pm : link
2 UDFA’s so it’s not just the Giants. There are far more unknowns this year combined with no in person rookie minicamps there aren’t a lot of options for many of these UDFA’s. The players union does not have the best interests of these UDFA’s futures in mind by avoiding the rookie minicamps.
Giants have probably invited players for tryouts  
US1 Giants : 5/4/2021 12:54 pm : link
during the rookie camp.
Covid related  
JonC : 5/4/2021 12:56 pm : link
and Giants are close to 90.
The Giants already have close to 90 players  
Captplanet : 5/4/2021 12:58 pm : link
under contract. In fact, back in Feb, they signed 13 players to Future or reserved contracts. I think they decided with covid limiting scouting that they would be better off cycling through known players as opposed to unknown undrafted free agents.
Also with the cap way down  
Chris L. : 5/4/2021 12:59 pm : link
because of COVID more veterans were cut to save dollars which means there were/are more quality veterans on the "street" than there would normally be. Teams were able to fill rosters with vets on the cheap. A bad year to be a street free agent.
I was thinking the same thing but according to the tracker on  
Spider56 : 5/4/2021 1:13 pm : link
Walter Football, 19 of the teams are at 5 UDFA signings or less including NE with zero. Maybe it reflects that the talent pool is lower this year because of the opt outs and extra year for returnees.
RE: Covid related  
Anakim : 5/4/2021 1:15 pm : link
In comment 15253281 JonC said:
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and Giants are close to 90.


What's the PS squad situation like for this year? Is it the same as last year? Can you sign veterans to the PS again? If not, I would suspect that the majority of our PS players will be cast-offs from other teams.
Looks like Antlanta  
Boatie Warrant : 5/4/2021 1:19 pm : link
Brought in a whole team.
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Atlanta as well  
Boatie Warrant : 5/4/2021 1:20 pm : link
😉
The Belicheck connection  
Shecky : 5/4/2021 1:23 pm : link
Interesting that it’s pointed out in the thread, Miami signed2 and Pats none, along with Giants 3. Two BB coaching tree guys following exactly what Pats are doing this year I doubt that is a philosophical coincidence, just can’t figure out the thinking as to why?

With Covid and lack of tape on guys, I would think this year more than any you can hit the ‘Victor Cruz jackpot’ on a guy who is more likely than ever to have gone overlooked.
If I remember the Giants have like 88 players on the roster  
blueblood : 5/4/2021 1:26 pm : link
and we dont know if they have something in the works as far as other veteran FA's.

Here's some clarification....  
Milton : 5/4/2021 1:35 pm : link
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When the draft ends, NFL teams commence a land rush for undrafted rookies. This year, the Patriots have not participated in what otherwise is a knee-jerk ritual.

Mike Reiss of ESPN.com explains the reasons for the decision to wait.

First, uncertainty regarding the pandemic has prompted the Patriots to remain at 82 players on the roster. Last year, the NFL and NFLPA gave teams the option to proceed with a split squad (if taking 90 to camp) or a single roster (if taking only 80). The Patriots opted for 80; they had to cut some undrafted free agents to get to that number. Some of them, as Reiss notes, had guaranteed money in their contract.

Second, the pool of undrafted players is more shallow this year, because fewer total players signed with agents.

Per Reiss, coach Bill Belichick has said that the team will invite potential undrafted free agents on a tryout basis later in the offseason. For now, the delay primarily seems to trace to the question of whether teams will have to make the same 80 vs. 90 decision when camp opens.
Last time I looked  
Adam G in Big D : 5/4/2021 1:35 pm : link
Washington had only signed one.
Milton  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/4/2021 1:42 pm : link
It's startling. Closest we came to this was the one offseason where we only signed four guys.

My guess is Judge didn't really feel comfortable signing guys he didn't meet with in person. I think he said he met in person with five of our six draft picks.
It demonstrates that...  
Milton : 5/4/2021 1:43 pm : link
Despite the optimism, we are still in uncharted waters when it comes to the pandemic, herd immunity, variants, and predicting the new normal. We can't just assume an imminent return to business as usual. Kevin Abrams pointing to the possibility of another low salary cap year in 2022 was one reminder, this is another. Prudent teams aren't just assuming we are out of the woods.
the 90  
Eric from BBI : Admin : 5/4/2021 1:43 pm : link
argument doesn't carry water with me. We've been there before. They just cut guys.

My guess is we may see more guys signed after the mini-camp after Judge has interacted with the invitees face to face.
RE: It demonstrates that...  
section125 : 5/4/2021 2:23 pm : link
In comment 15253352 Milton said:
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Despite the optimism, we are still in uncharted waters when it comes to the pandemic, herd immunity, variants, and predicting the new normal. We can't just assume an imminent return to business as usual. Kevin Abrams pointing to the possibility of another low salary cap year in 2022 was one reminder, this is another. Prudent teams aren't just assuming we are out of the woods.


It has more to do with last year and the pandemic, not this current year.
They could not meet people so they will not sign people they did not meet.
Last night on Sirius, Bill Polian  
FranknWeezer : 5/4/2021 2:34 pm : link
said the pool is very thin with UDFA candidates because most of the guys who were on the brink had already chosen to take the NCAA up on its offer to have an extra year of college eligibility without penalty.
RE: Last night on Sirius, Bill Polian  
Spider56 : 5/4/2021 3:26 pm : link
In comment 15253412 FranknWeezer said:
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said the pool is very thin with UDFA candidates because most of the guys who were on the brink had already chosen to take the NCAA up on its offer to have an extra year of college eligibility without penalty.


And this would be the smart move and best for all...
RE: Last night on Sirius, Bill Polian  
Mike in NY : 5/4/2021 3:31 pm : link
In comment 15253412 FranknWeezer said:
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said the pool is very thin with UDFA candidates because most of the guys who were on the brink had already chosen to take the NCAA up on its offer to have an extra year of college eligibility without penalty.


Did they say when the deadline was? Just wondering if there might have been last minute opt outs and that is why some players were surprisingly undrafted.
Maybe  
The Jake : 5/4/2021 3:32 pm : link
there are fewer qualified fringe players because there was less college football played last season?
Just wait till next year  
DavidinBMNY : 5/4/2021 8:32 pm : link
With a full season and a backlog f returning players there will likely be a legit 8th round.
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