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Denver OT Juwan James out for the season

jeff57 : 5/4/2021 5:10 pm
Wonder if they’re having second thoughts about now about not taking Slater.

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Broncos' OT Ja'Wuan James suffered a season-ending torn Achilles working out today away from the team facility, per sources. James' $10 million salary for the upcoming season now is in jeopardy being that Denver no longer is obligated to pay him with him working out off site.


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Very sensitive situation with the salary.  
81_Great_Dane : 5/4/2021 5:12 pm : link
No, they don't HAVE to pay him, but if they don't, it's a powerful disincentive for other players to work out off-site.

"Stay in shape, here are some goals... but if you get hurt, you're on your own."
Great point made by Ross Tucker...  
FranknWeezer : 5/4/2021 5:12 pm : link
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One of many reasons why I’d show up for off-season program.

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Broncos' OT Ja'Wuan James suffered a season-ending torn Achilles working out today away from the team facility, per sources. James' $10 million salary for the upcoming season now is in jeopardy being that Denver no longer is obligated to pay him with him working out off site.
Players union better rethink their stance  
Sean : 5/4/2021 5:15 pm : link
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RE: Very sensitive situation with the salary.  
Sean : 5/4/2021 5:16 pm : link
In comment 15253718 81_Great_Dane said:
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No, they don't HAVE to pay him, but if they don't, it's a powerful disincentive for other players to work out off-site.

"Stay in shape, here are some goals... but if you get hurt, you're on your own."


He should have been working out at the team’s facility.
They should pay him  
eric2425ny : 5/4/2021 5:20 pm : link
it’s not like he tore his Achilles doing something crazy. He was working out. And honestly, if he hurt it lifting weights or something the odds are pretty good that would have happened off site or at the team facility.
RE: They should pay him  
Mike in NY : 5/4/2021 5:21 pm : link
In comment 15253730 eric2425ny said:
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it’s not like he tore his Achilles doing something crazy. He was working out. And honestly, if he hurt it lifting weights or something the odds are pretty good that would have happened off site or at the team facility.


They should absolutely refuse to pay. Force the players to come in for "voluntary" workouts. Screw the union.
NFL licking their chops now  
Ben in Tampa : 5/4/2021 5:22 pm : link
From a purely capitalist fuck you perspective, I wouldn’t pay the guy and use it as leverage to say “This what can happen if you boycott the off season”

Interesting what the fall out of this will be
RE: They should pay him  
shocktheworld : 5/4/2021 5:23 pm : link
In comment 15253730 eric2425ny said:
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it’s not like he tore his Achilles doing something crazy. He was working out. And honestly, if he hurt it lifting weights or something the odds are pretty good that would have happened off site or at the team facility.


Let’s see how this goes... if they burn him, it highlights the class of the NYG organization ex) Rudolph situation. That matters now and going forward
RE: Very sensitive situation with the salary.  
TrustTheProcess : 5/4/2021 5:28 pm : link
In comment 15253718 81_Great_Dane said:
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No, they don't HAVE to pay him, but if they don't, it's a powerful disincentive for other players to work out off-site.

"Stay in shape, here are some goals... but if you get hurt, you're on your own."


That what I was thinking...
RE: They should pay him  
Jay on the Island : 5/4/2021 5:31 pm : link
In comment 15253730 eric2425ny said:
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it’s not like he tore his Achilles doing something crazy. He was working out. And honestly, if he hurt it lifting weights or something the odds are pretty good that would have happened off site or at the team facility.

I’ll wait to see if it’s confirmed that he was really working out and not doing something else like playing basketball or doing something reckless.
Damn...Schefter says it's actually $20 mil...  
FranknWeezer : 5/4/2021 5:32 pm : link
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Broncos' OT Ja'Wuan James’ contract tolled last year, so he was playing under his 2020 contract this year, which had $10 million guaranteed for skill and injury, and another $10 million in 2021. So it’s a $20 million potential torn Achilles injury today.
Wow  
ZogZerg : 5/4/2021 5:43 pm : link
What will the Broncos do?

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Sean : 5/4/2021 5:52 pm : link
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Side note; Privately (and not so privately) there's a lot of frustration with players with their union right now. Will be interesting to see if this lights a fire.
Hmm. 3 Game in 3 years  
ZogZerg : 5/4/2021 5:58 pm : link
after Denver signed him as a Free Agent.

Boy, that will make this decision even tougher for Denver.

I really like James when he was with Miami. He would have solved 1  
Ivan15 : 5/4/2021 6:22 pm : link
Tackle problem.
I wonder if we will see  
jvm52106 : 5/4/2021 6:34 pm : link
a number of returning Opt Out guys get hurt (especially if they are late 20's early 30's) as no matter how much you trained last year, it wasn't the same as knowing you will be hitting the field soon.

Not saying that is the reason here but, a year away from working out hard (with a real season, games etc. coming) must be hard to just kick it back in gear.
RE: RE: They should pay him  
eric2425ny : 5/4/2021 6:47 pm : link
In comment 15253734 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15253730 eric2425ny said:


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it’s not like he tore his Achilles doing something crazy. He was working out. And honestly, if he hurt it lifting weights or something the odds are pretty good that would have happened off site or at the team facility.



They should absolutely refuse to pay. Force the players to come in for "voluntary" workouts. Screw the union.


If he really was working out when this happened and a team refuses to pay, good luck signing any marquee free agents in the future.

Honest question, if you are a person who works in an office environment requiring extensive emailing, typing, etc. and you break your hand falling on a patch of ice at the store, and your employer says sorry you got hurt but we’re not paying you how would you feel about working for that company? I would be looking for another job.
RE: NFL licking their chops now  
DavidinBMNY : 5/4/2021 7:32 pm : link
In comment 15253735 Ben in Tampa said:
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From a purely capitalist fuck you perspective, I wouldn’t pay the guy and use it as leverage to say “This what can happen if you boycott the off season”

Interesting what the fall out of this will be
exactly. 2 can play at that game.
RE: RE: RE: They should pay him  
Mike in NY : 5/4/2021 7:35 pm : link
In comment 15253840 eric2425ny said:
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In comment 15253734 Mike in NY said:


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In comment 15253730 eric2425ny said:


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it’s not like he tore his Achilles doing something crazy. He was working out. And honestly, if he hurt it lifting weights or something the odds are pretty good that would have happened off site or at the team facility.



They should absolutely refuse to pay. Force the players to come in for "voluntary" workouts. Screw the union.



If he really was working out when this happened and a team refuses to pay, good luck signing any marquee free agents in the future.

Honest question, if you are a person who works in an office environment requiring extensive emailing, typing, etc. and you break your hand falling on a patch of ice at the store, and your employer says sorry you got hurt but we’re not paying you how would you feel about working for that company? I would be looking for another job.


Were you at the store when you should have been at the office?
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eric2425ny : 5/4/2021 8:19 pm : link
In comment 15253907 Mike in NY said:
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In comment 15253840 eric2425ny said:


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In comment 15253734 Mike in NY said:


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In comment 15253730 eric2425ny said:


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it’s not like he tore his Achilles doing something crazy. He was working out. And honestly, if he hurt it lifting weights or something the odds are pretty good that would have happened off site or at the team facility.



They should absolutely refuse to pay. Force the players to come in for "voluntary" workouts. Screw the union.



If he really was working out when this happened and a team refuses to pay, good luck signing any marquee free agents in the future.

Honest question, if you are a person who works in an office environment requiring extensive emailing, typing, etc. and you break your hand falling on a patch of ice at the store, and your employer says sorry you got hurt but we’re not paying you how would you feel about working for that company? I would be looking for another job.



Were you at the store when you should have been at the office?


Players don’t have to be at the team facility, these workouts are voluntary.
"Voluntary" means we  
Bill in UT : 5/4/2021 9:45 pm : link
expect your ass to be at our facility, for your good and the good of the team, but legally, we can't force you to do the right thing
And Bronco fans are displeased.  
Joe Beckwith : 5/4/2021 10:00 pm : link
As it was he only played 5 games in ‘19, then opted out in ‘’20, and now this offsite injury MAY Void what he’s due this year, per Denver fans.
Sounds like he listened to the Union and avoided team facilities, BUT, trained.
Fun times coming up, leaguewide if the story is true.
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I am Ninja : 5/4/2021 11:02 pm : link
Thats a no pay from me dogg. And all the other attys i know of on this thread...
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81_Great_Dane : 5/5/2021 2:18 am : link
In comment 15254083 Bill in UT said:
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expect your ass to be at our facility, for your good and the good of the team, but legally, we can't force you to do the right thing
Tom? Tom Coughlin? Welcome to BBI, coach!
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