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Has Aaron Rodgers played his last game as a Packer?

SFGFNCGiantsFan : 5/4/2021 6:37 pm
What say you? I think he has. I just listened to Peter King's podcast & he still seems pretty plugged in & think this isn't going away anytime soon. Also, Rodgers seems like a stubborn SOB so I don't think he caves. A lot of $ left, but my guess is he ends up getting dealt, regardless of what GB FO says currently.
No  
section125 : 5/4/2021 6:39 pm : link
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I Hope So  
Trainmaster : 5/4/2021 6:42 pm : link
In the playoffs, the Packers are my "Number 1 root against team", since the have 13 championships to the Giants 8.

Rodgers is a whiny douche. I hope they trade him to Houston.

Roger s vs GM..........Rogers win  
George from PA : 5/4/2021 6:43 pm : link
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The only person who knows  
JohnF : 5/4/2021 6:44 pm : link
is Rodgers. Not King, or any of the other pundits (who are using this story for TV ratings or clicks).
RE: I Hope So  
Big Blue '56 : 5/4/2021 6:44 pm : link
In comment 15253829 Trainmaster said:
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In the playoffs, the Packers are my "Number 1 root against team", since the have 13 championships to the Giants 8.

Rodgers is a whiny douche. I hope they trade him to Houston.


Not to worry. If a championship is on the line, it’s a pretty safe bet that Rodgers will come up short. And blame someone else. So, the 13 titles tie is safe, imv
BB '56  
pjcas18 : 5/4/2021 6:50 pm : link
I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.

He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).

Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.

Plus, he has a SB MVP award.
No they are stuck with each other  
JohnB : 5/4/2021 7:22 pm : link
Unless he truly retires. But that’s not happening
RE: BB '56  
Big Blue '56 : 5/4/2021 7:26 pm : link
In comment 15253841 pjcas18 said:
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I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.

He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).

Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.

Plus, he has a SB MVP award.


Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small..

We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not..

A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..

I hope not  
The Jake : 5/4/2021 7:27 pm : link
A pissed off Rodgers is bad news for the Bears and potentially good for our draft pick next season. No Rodgers in that division? Then it might be completely up for grabs.
No  
Mike in NY : 5/4/2021 7:27 pm : link
Because he has to report by Week 10 for season to count.
50/50  
GiantsFan84 : 5/4/2021 7:29 pm : link
i think it's the packers or retirement. there simply isn't a way for green back to get proper value back outside of the 49ers

you can't trade him to denver. what could they possibly offer? late first round picks? no thanks.

i can't see green bay trading him. rodgers is a big enough ass though that i could see him retiring out of spite
I would take him here in a heartbeat  
PwndPapi : 5/4/2021 7:29 pm : link
Guy plays every game hard. Plays half his games in the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field and still wins every year.

Meanwhile, we make up all sorts of excuses for our QBs.
He's an asshole  
Chip : 5/4/2021 7:31 pm : link
Do not want him here.
I feel fairly confident Rodgers is...  
bw in dc : 5/4/2021 7:37 pm : link
going to be traded before the season starts. I expect the Packers realize the damage is irreparable and this is their best opportunity to get back a pretty good trade package for AaRod.

So expect the Packers and the Broncos to get very creative. And then I expect the AFC West to be the best division in years with the three of the games great QBs...
I don’t think the Packers  
Sammo85 : 5/4/2021 7:50 pm : link
will give in. They got abused by fans on Favre until Favre showed his true self and duplicity with Minnesota.

Lots of Packer fans support the team taking hard stance. If Rodgers wants to retire he has to pay back stupid bonus money and will forego like another 25-27million in guarantees and Packers retain his rights.
wonder how many teams can create the cap room  
Peter from NH (formerly CT) : 5/4/2021 7:52 pm : link
to take on his contract
RE: wonder how many teams can create the cap room  
EricJ : 5/4/2021 7:58 pm : link
In comment 15253934 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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to take on his contract


Right... so he can bitch about the next GM who is not surrounding him with that he needs.
RE: wonder how many teams can create the cap room  
UConn4523 : 5/4/2021 7:59 pm : link
In comment 15253934 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:
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to take on his contract


His contract is really not bad, it’s mid tier compared to anyone on their 2nd contract. Plus you can negotiate and extension to drop the year 1 cap hit if need be.

Laughing at Rodgers coming up small in the playoffs. I guess so does every other QB that doesn’t have multiple titles. Such a inaccurate take.
I hope not..  
Sean : 5/4/2021 8:00 pm : link
Rodgers in GB makes it tougher for the Bears.
RE: I hope not..  
eric2425ny : 5/4/2021 8:02 pm : link
In comment 15253942 Sean said:
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Rodgers in GB makes it tougher for the Bears.


Ha, I was about to post the same thing. I hope Rodgers, Goff, and Cousins have great seasons and lose the first round of the playoffs like they usually do.
RE: RE: BB '56  
pjcas18 : 5/4/2021 8:04 pm : link
In comment 15253889 Big Blue '56 said:
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I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.

He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).

Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.

Plus, he has a SB MVP award.



Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small..

We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not..

A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..


I hear you, disagree - I think Rodgers IS a big game QB, but I hear you - and the only counterpoint I'll make is in 2011 JPP blocked a potential game tying FG or it's possible XLVI doesn't happen. That's pretty random and while maybe not as random as a different team blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead to keep your season alive, it's still pretty fortunate and as we know Eli has a 2nd ring because of it and a 2nd SB MVP.
RE: RE: RE: BB '56  
Big Blue '56 : 5/4/2021 8:11 pm : link
In comment 15253947 pjcas18 said:
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I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.

He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).

Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.

Plus, he has a SB MVP award.



Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small..

We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not..

A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..




I hear you, disagree - I think Rodgers IS a big game QB, but I hear you - and the only counterpoint I'll make is in 2011 JPP blocked a potential game tying FG or it's possible XLVI doesn't happen. That's pretty random and while maybe not as random as a different team blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead to keep your season alive, it's still pretty fortunate and as we know Eli has a 2nd ring because of it and a 2nd SB MVP.


Oh, of course and that’s why winning a SB needs everything to break right and why, as I’ve said, those 2 last SB wins of ours, will sustain me forever and why I’m able to tolerate all this shit since the last one
RE: RE: RE: RE: BB '56  
pjcas18 : 5/4/2021 8:15 pm : link
In comment 15253956 Big Blue '56 said:
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I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.

He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).

Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.

Plus, he has a SB MVP award.



Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small..

We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not..

A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..




I hear you, disagree - I think Rodgers IS a big game QB, but I hear you - and the only counterpoint I'll make is in 2011 JPP blocked a potential game tying FG or it's possible XLVI doesn't happen. That's pretty random and while maybe not as random as a different team blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead to keep your season alive, it's still pretty fortunate and as we know Eli has a 2nd ring because of it and a 2nd SB MVP.



Oh, of course and that’s why winning a SB needs everything to break right and why, as I’ve said, those 2 last SB wins of ours, will sustain me forever and why I’m able to tolerate all this shit since the last one


Fair, and I'm not far off on that tone toward the Giants - especially living in Boston-metro.
I did this last week...  
bw in dc : 5/4/2021 8:40 pm : link
but here are key stats with Rodgers regular season vs playoffs.

Regular Season
YPA: 7.8
AYA: 8.4
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 4.6
INT%: 1.4%
QBR: 70+

Playoffs
YPA: 7.6
AYA: 8.0
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 3.5
INT%: 1.7%
QBR: 60+

So by large, the metrics are very similar; and you have to factor in the variable that the playoffs are against the very best teams.
RE: No  
Jimmy Googs : 5/4/2021 8:43 pm : link
In comment 15253826 section125 said:
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Then the smart play is yes...
He’ll be 38 in Dec, will he be willing to sit out  
Section331 : 5/4/2021 8:57 pm : link
and risk losing one of the few years he has left? If I’m GB, I call his bluff.
Rodgers is an all time great  
rocco8112 : 5/4/2021 9:14 pm : link
As stated above his production remains elite in the regular season and against the best in the playoff.

We are all lucky as football fans to be able to enjoy his talent.

Frankly, it is unfair to hold it against Rodgers that he has thus far failed to lead his team on two title runs, or secure two Super Bowl MVP's.

These accomplishments put a QB into some rarefied air. To use this as a knock on Rodgers is wrong.
This depends on what the Pack can get  
Giant John : 5/4/2021 10:24 pm : link
For Rodgers. If the value is there then maybe they pull the trigger. If not, then Rodgers can sit home on his couch and lose the year of salary if he refuses to play again.
If they don’t trade him and he sits  
UConn4523 : 5/4/2021 10:27 pm : link
they are almost guaranteed to miss the playoffs with their MVP on the bench, has that ever happened before? I though it was possible this year with Watson pre allegations but they also won 4 games so I can see Houston playing hardball.

GB is in between a rock and a hard place as SB contenders.
trade him for Watson plus picks  
spike : 5/4/2021 10:40 pm : link
Let him rot in Texas
RE: If they don’t trade him and he sits  
pjcas18 : 5/4/2021 10:51 pm : link
In comment 15254123 UConn4523 said:
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they are almost guaranteed to miss the playoffs with their MVP on the bench, has that ever happened before? I though it was possible this year with Watson pre allegations but they also won 4 games so I can see Houston playing hardball.

GB is in between a rock and a hard place as SB contenders.


2018 Steelers? if you consider bell their MVP (debatable I guess - Bell and Brown both 1st team all-pros in 2017 and Steelers went 13-3), but Bell sat the whole season in 2018 and they missed the playoffs at 9-6-1.
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Go Terps : 5/4/2021 10:55 pm : link
I can't recall any instances in football where trading an all-time great still playing at an all-time caliber worked out. I can't even recall an example.

If I'm running Green Bay, Rodgers gets what he wants.
I can’t fully remember Bell  
UConn4523 : 5/4/2021 11:04 pm : link
did he just not sign his tag? Either way I was more speaking to QB and league MVP.
RE: RE: BB '56  
ray in arlington : 5/4/2021 11:19 pm : link
In comment 15253889 Big Blue '56 said:
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.


This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.
RE: I can’t fully remember Bell  
montanagiant : 5/4/2021 11:37 pm : link
In comment 15254154 UConn4523 said:
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did he just not sign his tag? Either way I was more speaking to QB and league MVP.

I think that's exactly what Bell did and it cost him millions in the long run
Yes  
Koldegaard : 5/5/2021 3:37 am : link
He will be traded to Denver or LV post June 1st
Maybe  
Koldegaard : 5/5/2021 3:38 am : link
Carr's contract would make it possible
I still don't get it...  
GruningsOnTheHill : 5/5/2021 6:31 am : link
This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?
RE: RE: RE: BB '56  
Big Blue '56 : 5/5/2021 6:45 am : link
In comment 15254162 ray in arlington said:
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.




This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.


Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?
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Big Blue '56 : 5/5/2021 6:48 am : link
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Green Bay handled the Giants the following week, 45-17, and won a three-way tiebreaker with the Tampa Bay Buccaneers and Giants at 10-6 for the sixth and final playoff spot in the NFC. The Giants loss to Philadelphia obviously kept the Giants from going 11-5 and finishing ahead of our heroes(Green Bay)

I think..  
FatMan in Charlotte : 5/5/2021 7:16 am : link
rodgers and Wilson will still be QB'ing their teams next season, as will Watson (barring further legal developments)
There Must be Something Else  
varco : 5/5/2021 7:25 am : link
I don't believe Rodgers would be this hurt over the drafting of a potential replacement. There must be deeper issues involved - perhaps he feels that the Packers have not added enough offensive weapons over the years or some other deep seated philosophical difference. That said, I would hate to be his successor - unbelievable pressure. Another factor to consider is the Jeopardy issue ---if he gets the gig, then relocation to the West Coast would be advantageous. BTW, I wasn't that impressed with him or just about any of the "guest hosts" trying to do their imitation of Alex Trebek. There was only one and the new host has to bring their own personality / approach to the table to refresh that franchise.
RE: I still don't get it...  
UConn4523 : 5/5/2021 7:29 am : link
In comment 15254224 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?


Do you expect Green Bay or Rodgers to give you a play by play of everything that happened?

This isn’t just about Love, the dysfunction in GB has been years long.
RE: RE: I still don't get it...  
section125 : 5/5/2021 7:56 am : link
In comment 15254245 UConn4523 said:
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This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?



Do you expect Green Bay or Rodgers to give you a play by play of everything that happened?

This isn’t just about Love, the dysfunction in GB has been years long.


McCarthy left, he was the dysfunction. The Packers have had a solid team even when McCarthy was there, just that McCarthy is a terrible coach.
I'm not going to pretend to know exactly what caused this  
UConn4523 : 5/5/2021 8:18 am : link
like many others are doing. I'm going by what we all know:

Mike McCarthy was a bad coach, carried by Rodgers for the bulk of his tenure. Got canned for continuing to mail it in (too many reports of him being lazy, I'm confident they are true).

They haven't spent a top pick on offense in a decade until the Love pick, so still not a top pick for a weapon or upgrade somewhere along the OL.

They picked Love and Rodgers puts up another MVP season.

If reports are true, there's atleast been talks of trading him.

I'm sure there's more behind the scenes. And i'm not advocating that players go this route, I just understand why they might. I 100% get it for Wilson too, their investment in the OL has been just as bad.
Would think Green Bay should figure out how to solve  
chick310 : 5/5/2021 8:19 am : link
for Rodgers' issues. Nothing good is going to come of this for them subject to some picks from a June 1 trade to Denver.

I think it's  
crick n NC : 5/5/2021 8:22 am : link
Likely that both Green Bay and Rodgers have responsibility in this mess. I also think each side is probably only focusing on other's behavior instead of their own.
Most likely comes down to just 2 things, imv:  
Big Blue '56 : 5/5/2021 8:23 am : link
1:-He plays this year with GM still there

2-He sits out all or most of the season (doubtful)
We should all hope that Rodgers stays in GB  
Jim in Tampa : 5/5/2021 8:23 am : link
GB plays 2 games against the Bears and their chances of winning with AR at QB are FAR greater than they would be with Love or some other lesser QB.

Put your individual feelings about Rodgers asside as they don't really matter.

It's better for the Giants if Rodgers stays with GB.
RE: We should all hope that Rodgers stays in GB  
Big Blue '56 : 5/5/2021 8:28 am : link
In comment 15254278 Jim in Tampa said:
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GB plays 2 games against the Bears and their chances of winning with AR at QB are FAR greater than they would be with Love or some other lesser QB.

Put your individual feelings about Rodgers asside as they don't really matter.

It's better for the Giants if Rodgers stays with GB.


Absolutely
Why was Love drafted?  
Lines of Scrimmage : 5/5/2021 8:32 am : link
I think that is key as well as what they think of Love moving forward.

Green Bay has been through this before. I think Favre kept tossing out retirement (probably liked missing camp and attention) so they had Rogers as a backup. Favre got pissed and was traded to the Jets (where he should of stayed imo) and they Packers moved on pretty smoothly. Favre and Rogers are very similar in production/awards over just about the same amount of years.

What they think of Love is pretty important. Let's give the Green Bay organization some credit. Since Ron Wolf came in they have been one of the premier organizations. He has been gone a while but they pretty much maintained the path he set. Maybe they know what they are doing here.
I read somewhere that the cap hit for moving rodgers this year  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/5/2021 8:34 am : link
is close to $40m.

I really doubt anything happens this season.
RE: RE: RE: RE: BB '56  
ray in arlington : 5/5/2021 9:23 am : link
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.




This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.



Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?


It's a nice story, so I'm not surprised that once someone writes it, others will pick is up. But I am certainly familiar with wrong stuff on tiebreakers being out there. If you change the NYG loss to PHI to a win, both NYG and GB make the playoffs and it is PHI who doesn't get in.

As I posted in 2010, it was reported widely that NYG didn't make the playoffs due to losing the H to H tiebreak with GB. This was not the case as TB also finished 10-6 and did not play NYG or GB. The tiebreak was actually settled through strength of victory. (This is accurately reflected in the wikipedia article on the 2010 season).
I think he gets traded to  
ryanmkeane : 5/5/2021 9:35 am : link
Denver before the season
RE: Why was Love drafted?  
Dr. D : 5/5/2021 9:37 am : link
In comment 15254286 Lines of Scrimmage said:
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Let's give the Green Bay organization some credit. Maybe they know what they are doing here.

They've had arguably the best QB (at least top 2) for the last 15 years and won 1 SB. Part of that might be due to hanging onto McCarthy for so long. That's on their FO (I'm so glad he's now in Dal. Hope he does just enough to stay there awhile).

Overall, I think they've drafted pretty well, but they generally don't play in FA, which could've possibly put them over the top a couple of other seasons.

Even with the draft, maybe someone other than a clipboard holder in the first rd. last year, might've put them over the top. Maybe a stud defensive player would've helped them hold TB to less than 31 pts in the NFC title game. Maybe resigning Blake would've helped (they thought we overpaid for him). Maybe another offensive weapon would've helped when TB shut down Adams.

They've been successful, if your goal is to make it to the playoffs. Not as much, if your goal is to win the SB. One of my brothers in law is from WI and big Packer fan. I don't think he'd say they've done such a great job.
What other franchise has transitioned seamlessly  
Ten Ton Hammer : 5/5/2021 9:48 am : link
from Brett Favre to Aaron Rodgers and has a grand total of 6 conference title games and 1 super bowl appearance since 2001. (20 years)

Keep in mind, their division holds the Lions, Bears, and Vikings. Only one of those teams ever seems to be good in any given season.
TTH  
Dr. D : 5/5/2021 10:10 am : link
I was going to add (but didn't want my post to be longer than it already was), GB has been fortunate to play in one of the worst divisions, for years. Almost as bad as the AFC East when NE won it year after year.
RE: RE: RE: RE: BB '56  
Section331 : 5/5/2021 10:25 am : link
In comment 15254226 Big Blue '56 said:
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.




This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.



Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?


No, you are correct, fiddy. They both finished at 10-6, GB got in by tiebreaker. GB was the last team in (NO was the other WC at 11-5). Not sure how they get in if NYG have more wins.
RE: I still don't get it...  
Section331 : 5/5/2021 10:29 am : link
In comment 15254224 GruningsOnTheHill said:
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This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?


No, it's really about GB promising him an extension and dragging their feet. He's using Love as an excuse, probably because he doesn't want to come across as greedy.

I think he and GB will come to an agreement in the next few months, and this will all blow over. By bringing Love into his contract dispute, I do wonder if he risks losing his locker room.
RE: I did this last week...  
MyNameIsMyName : 5/5/2021 10:50 am : link
In comment 15253995 bw in dc said:
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but here are key stats with Rodgers regular season vs playoffs.

Regular Season
YPA: 7.8
AYA: 8.4
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 4.6
INT%: 1.4%
QBR: 70+

Playoffs
YPA: 7.6
AYA: 8.0
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 3.5
INT%: 1.7%
QBR: 60+

So by large, the metrics are very similar; and you have to factor in the variable that the playoffs are against the very best teams.


Yep, he’s great in the regular season and playoffs. No idea what people are watching when they say he struggles in the playoffs.
RE: RE: I still don't get it...  
UConn4523 : 5/5/2021 10:56 am : link
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This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?



No, it's really about GB promising him an extension and dragging their feet. He's using Love as an excuse, probably because he doesn't want to come across as greedy.

I think he and GB will come to an agreement in the next few months, and this will all blow over. By bringing Love into his contract dispute, I do wonder if he risks losing his locker room.


To me it sounds like the media and fans are bringing Love into it. Love was picked a year ago, that happened and Rodgers being pissed off my their decision to forego an impact player already occurred. This is a series of events that all led to where we are now. If you believe what's out there, the trade rumors were the final straw.
Rodgers real motives to head west  
jomanc : 5/5/2021 10:58 am : link
Rodgers true motive in my opinion is to get to west coast.
1. His girlfriend is a California hollywood address.
2. If by chance he were to end up being the jeopardy host, which he is trying to be, its filmed in California.

bottom line is moving as close to California as he can would be very convenient for all his future endeavors.
he can move when he retires  
UConn4523 : 5/5/2021 11:06 am : link
can't see him doing full time Jeopardy until then anyway (if that's even on the table).

I don't doubt that going back west is high on his list, but I can't say its the #1 reason. SF is off the table now I would imagine, and the Rams likely can't afford him in draft capital or caproom. So that leaves Vegas? Mehh.
he can move when he retires  
UConn4523 : 5/5/2021 11:06 am : link
can't see him doing full time Jeopardy until then anyway (if that's even on the table).

I don't doubt that going back west is high on his list, but I can't say its the #1 reason. SF is off the table now I would imagine, and the Rams likely can't afford him in draft capital or caproom. So that leaves Vegas? Mehh.
RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BB '56  
ray in arlington : 5/5/2021 11:34 am : link
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.




This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.



Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?



No, you are correct, fiddy. They both finished at 10-6, GB got in by tiebreaker. GB was the last team in (NO was the other WC at 11-5). Not sure how they get in if NYG have more wins.


If you change the Giants loss to PHI to a win, the Giants finish 11-5 and win the East. NO takes the first wild card at 11-5. GB and TB are tied for the 2nd WC at 10-6 and GB wins the tiebreak (conf record same, common opponents same, GB better SOV). PHI finishes 9-7.

RE: RE: RE: RE: RE: BB '56  
ray in arlington : 5/5/2021 11:38 am : link
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.




This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.



Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?



No, you are correct, fiddy. They both finished at 10-6, GB got in by tiebreaker. GB was the last team in (NO was the other WC at 11-5). Not sure how they get in if NYG have more wins.


If you change the NYG loss to PHI to a win, NYG finish 11-5 and win the east. Therefore NYG has nothing to do with whether GB gets a wild card or not. NO takes the 1st WC at 11-5. GB and TB are tied for the 2nd wild card at 10-6 and GB wins the tiebreak (no head to head) same conference, same common opponents, better SOV). PHI finishes 9-7 and is out.
RE: Rodgers real motives to head west  
jomanc : 5/5/2021 11:58 am : link
In comment 15254504 jomanc said:
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Rodgers true motive in my opinion is to get to west coast.
1. His girlfriend is a California hollywood address.
2. If by chance he were to end up being the jeopardy host, which he is trying to be, its filmed in California.

bottom line is moving as close to California as he can would be very convenient for all his future endeavors.


p.s. he is serious about being the host now.
"would you ever consider giving up football to host Jeopardy!?

I don’t think I’d need to give up football to do it. They film 46 days a year. I worked 187 this year in Green Bay. That gives me, eh—[pauses]—178 days to do Jeopardy! So I feel like I could fit 46 into that 178 and make it work. It would be a dream job for sure, and I’m not shy at all about saying I want the job."
RE: RE: BB '56  
NINEster : 5/6/2021 3:24 pm : link
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I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.

He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).

Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.

Plus, he has a SB MVP award.



Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small..

We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not..

A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..


Very fair take.

If Rodgers didn't have quite the dazzling playmaking ability, he'd be taken down a few notches. Same with Marino.

He leads strictly by his play on the field, but he could use more interpersonal skills I think. It could be the little bit that translates in the playoffs.

He tends to get taken out of postseason games quite easily. Then in the real tight ones, things seem to fall apart.

It's odd.
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