Has Aaron Rodgers played his last game as a Packer?

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In the playoffs, the Packers are my "Number 1 root against team", since the have 13 championships to the Giants 8.

Rodgers is a whiny douche. I hope they trade him to Houston.

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is Rodgers. Not King, or any of the other pundits (who are using this story for TV ratings or clicks).

In comment 15253829 Trainmaster said:

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In the playoffs, the Packers are my "Number 1 root against team", since the have 13 championships to the Giants 8. Rodgers is a whiny douche. I hope they trade him to Houston.

Not to worry. If a championship is on the line, it’s a pretty safe bet that Rodgers will come up short. And blame someone else. So, the 13 titles tie is safe, imv

I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.

He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).

Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.

Plus, he has a SB MVP award.

Unless he truly retires. But that’s not happening

In comment 15253841 pjcas18 said:

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I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar. He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs). Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played. Plus, he has a SB MVP award.

Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small..

We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not..

A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..

A pissed off Rodgers is bad news for the Bears and potentially good for our draft pick next season. No Rodgers in that division? Then it might be completely up for grabs.

Because he has to report by Week 10 for season to count.

i think it's the packers or retirement. there simply isn't a way for green back to get proper value back outside of the 49ers

you can't trade him to denver. what could they possibly offer? late first round picks? no thanks.

i can't see green bay trading him. rodgers is a big enough ass though that i could see him retiring out of spite

Guy plays every game hard. Plays half his games in the frozen tundra of Lambeau Field and still wins every year.

Meanwhile, we make up all sorts of excuses for our QBs.

Do not want him here.

going to be traded before the season starts. I expect the Packers realize the damage is irreparable and this is their best opportunity to get back a pretty good trade package for AaRod.

So expect the Packers and the Broncos to get very creative. And then I expect the AFC West to be the best division in years with the three of the games great QBs...

will give in. They got abused by fans on Favre until Favre showed his true self and duplicity with Minnesota.

Lots of Packer fans support the team taking hard stance. If Rodgers wants to retire he has to pay back stupid bonus money and will forego like another 25-27million in guarantees and Packers retain his rights.

to take on his contract

In comment 15253934 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:

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to take on his contract

Right... so he can bitch about the next GM who is not surrounding him with that he needs.

In comment 15253934 Peter from NH (formerly CT) said:

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to take on his contract

His contract is really not bad, it’s mid tier compared to anyone on their 2nd contract. Plus you can negotiate and extension to drop the year 1 cap hit if need be.

Laughing at Rodgers coming up small in the playoffs. I guess so does every other QB that doesn’t have multiple titles. Such a inaccurate take.

Rodgers in GB makes it tougher for the Bears.

In comment 15253942 Sean said:

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Rodgers in GB makes it tougher for the Bears.

Ha, I was about to post the same thing. I hope Rodgers, Goff, and Cousins have great seasons and lose the first round of the playoffs like they usually do.

In comment 15253889 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 15253841 pjcas18 said: Quote: I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar. He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs). Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played. Plus, he has a SB MVP award. Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small.. We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not.. A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..

I hear you, disagree - I think Rodgers IS a big game QB, but I hear you - and the only counterpoint I'll make is in 2011 JPP blocked a potential game tying FG or it's possible XLVI doesn't happen. That's pretty random and while maybe not as random as a different team blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead to keep your season alive, it's still pretty fortunate and as we know Eli has a 2nd ring because of it and a 2nd SB MVP.

In comment 15253947 pjcas18 said:

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In comment 15253889 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 15253841 pjcas18 said: Quote: I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar. He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs). Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played. Plus, he has a SB MVP award. Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small.. We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not.. A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding.. I hear you, disagree - I think Rodgers IS a big game QB, but I hear you - and the only counterpoint I'll make is in 2011 JPP blocked a potential game tying FG or it's possible XLVI doesn't happen. That's pretty random and while maybe not as random as a different team blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead to keep your season alive, it's still pretty fortunate and as we know Eli has a 2nd ring because of it and a 2nd SB MVP.

Oh, of course and that’s why winning a SB needs everything to break right and why, as I’ve said, those 2 last SB wins of ours, will sustain me forever and why I’m able to tolerate all this shit since the last one

In comment 15253956 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 15253947 pjcas18 said: Quote: In comment 15253889 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 15253841 pjcas18 said: Quote: I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar. He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs). Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played. Plus, he has a SB MVP award. Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small.. We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not.. A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding.. I hear you, disagree - I think Rodgers IS a big game QB, but I hear you - and the only counterpoint I'll make is in 2011 JPP blocked a potential game tying FG or it's possible XLVI doesn't happen. That's pretty random and while maybe not as random as a different team blowing a 21 point 2nd half lead to keep your season alive, it's still pretty fortunate and as we know Eli has a 2nd ring because of it and a 2nd SB MVP. Oh, of course and that’s why winning a SB needs everything to break right and why, as I’ve said, those 2 last SB wins of ours, will sustain me forever and why I’m able to tolerate all this shit since the last one

Fair, and I'm not far off on that tone toward the Giants - especially living in Boston-metro.

but here are key stats with Rodgers regular season vs playoffs.

Regular Season
YPA: 7.8
AYA: 8.4
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 4.6
INT%: 1.4%
QBR: 70+

Playoffs
YPA: 7.6
AYA: 8.0
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 3.5
INT%: 1.7%
QBR: 60+

So by large, the metrics are very similar; and you have to factor in the variable that the playoffs are against the very best teams.

In comment 15253826 section125 said:

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Then the smart play is yes...

and risk losing one of the few years he has left? If I’m GB, I call his bluff.

As stated above his production remains elite in the regular season and against the best in the playoff.

We are all lucky as football fans to be able to enjoy his talent.

Frankly, it is unfair to hold it against Rodgers that he has thus far failed to lead his team on two title runs, or secure two Super Bowl MVP's.

These accomplishments put a QB into some rarefied air. To use this as a knock on Rodgers is wrong.

For Rodgers. If the value is there then maybe they pull the trigger. If not, then Rodgers can sit home on his couch and lose the year of salary if he refuses to play again.

they are almost guaranteed to miss the playoffs with their MVP on the bench, has that ever happened before? I though it was possible this year with Watson pre allegations but they also won 4 games so I can see Houston playing hardball.

GB is in between a rock and a hard place as SB contenders.

Let him rot in Texas

In comment 15254123 UConn4523 said:

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they are almost guaranteed to miss the playoffs with their MVP on the bench, has that ever happened before? I though it was possible this year with Watson pre allegations but they also won 4 games so I can see Houston playing hardball. GB is in between a rock and a hard place as SB contenders.

2018 Steelers? if you consider bell their MVP (debatable I guess - Bell and Brown both 1st team all-pros in 2017 and Steelers went 13-3), but Bell sat the whole season in 2018 and they missed the playoffs at 9-6-1.

I can't recall any instances in football where trading an all-time great still playing at an all-time caliber worked out. I can't even recall an example.

If I'm running Green Bay, Rodgers gets what he wants.

did he just not sign his tag? Either way I was more speaking to QB and league MVP.

In comment 15253889 Big Blue '56 said:

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In comment 15253841 pjcas18 said: We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.

This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.

In comment 15254154 UConn4523 said:

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did he just not sign his tag? Either way I was more speaking to QB and league MVP.

I think that's exactly what Bell did and it cost him millions in the long run

He will be traded to Denver or LV post June 1st

Carr's contract would make it possible

This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?

In comment 15254162 ray in arlington said:

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In comment 15253889 Big Blue '56 said: Quote: In comment 15253841 pjcas18 said: We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR. This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.

Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?

rodgers and Wilson will still be QB'ing their teams next season, as will Watson (barring further legal developments)

I don't believe Rodgers would be this hurt over the drafting of a potential replacement. There must be deeper issues involved - perhaps he feels that the Packers have not added enough offensive weapons over the years or some other deep seated philosophical difference. That said, I would hate to be his successor - unbelievable pressure. Another factor to consider is the Jeopardy issue ---if he gets the gig, then relocation to the West Coast would be advantageous. BTW, I wasn't that impressed with him or just about any of the "guest hosts" trying to do their imitation of Alex Trebek. There was only one and the new host has to bring their own personality / approach to the table to refresh that franchise.

In comment 15254224 GruningsOnTheHill said:

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This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?

Do you expect Green Bay or Rodgers to give you a play by play of everything that happened?

This isn’t just about Love, the dysfunction in GB has been years long.

In comment 15254245 UConn4523 said:

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In comment 15254224 GruningsOnTheHill said: Quote: This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years? Do you expect Green Bay or Rodgers to give you a play by play of everything that happened? This isn’t just about Love, the dysfunction in GB has been years long.

McCarthy left, he was the dysfunction. The Packers have had a solid team even when McCarthy was there, just that McCarthy is a terrible coach.

like many others are doing. I'm going by what we all know:

Mike McCarthy was a bad coach, carried by Rodgers for the bulk of his tenure. Got canned for continuing to mail it in (too many reports of him being lazy, I'm confident they are true).

They haven't spent a top pick on offense in a decade until the Love pick, so still not a top pick for a weapon or upgrade somewhere along the OL.

They picked Love and Rodgers puts up another MVP season.

If reports are true, there's atleast been talks of trading him.

I'm sure there's more behind the scenes. And i'm not advocating that players go this route, I just understand why they might. I 100% get it for Wilson too, their investment in the OL has been just as bad.

for Rodgers' issues. Nothing good is going to come of this for them subject to some picks from a June 1 trade to Denver.

Likely that both Green Bay and Rodgers have responsibility in this mess. I also think each side is probably only focusing on other's behavior instead of their own.

1:-He plays this year with GM still there

2-He sits out all or most of the season (doubtful)

GB plays 2 games against the Bears and their chances of winning with AR at QB are FAR greater than they would be with Love or some other lesser QB.

Put your individual feelings about Rodgers asside as they don't really matter.

It's better for the Giants if Rodgers stays with GB.

In comment 15254278 Jim in Tampa said:

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GB plays 2 games against the Bears and their chances of winning with AR at QB are FAR greater than they would be with Love or some other lesser QB. Put your individual feelings about Rodgers asside as they don't really matter. It's better for the Giants if Rodgers stays with GB.

Absolutely