What say you? I think he has. I just listened to Peter King's podcast & he still seems pretty plugged in & think this isn't going away anytime soon. Also, Rodgers seems like a stubborn SOB so I don't think he caves. A lot of $ left, but my guess is he ends up getting dealt, regardless of what GB FO says currently.
Green Bay has been through this before. I think Favre kept tossing out retirement (probably liked missing camp and attention) so they had Rogers as a backup. Favre got pissed and was traded to the Jets (where he should of stayed imo) and they Packers moved on pretty smoothly. Favre and Rogers are very similar in production/awards over just about the same amount of years.
What they think of Love is pretty important. Let's give the Green Bay organization some credit. Since Ron Wolf came in they have been one of the premier organizations. He has been gone a while but they pretty much maintained the path he set. Maybe they know what they are doing here.
I really doubt anything happens this season.
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.
This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.
Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?
It's a nice story, so I'm not surprised that once someone writes it, others will pick is up. But I am certainly familiar with wrong stuff on tiebreakers being out there. If you change the NYG loss to PHI to a win, both NYG and GB make the playoffs and it is PHI who doesn't get in.
As I posted in 2010, it was reported widely that NYG didn't make the playoffs due to losing the H to H tiebreak with GB. This was not the case as TB also finished 10-6 and did not play NYG or GB. The tiebreak was actually settled through strength of victory. (This is accurately reflected in the wikipedia article on the 2010 season).
They've had arguably the best QB (at least top 2) for the last 15 years and won 1 SB. Part of that might be due to hanging onto McCarthy for so long. That's on their FO (I'm so glad he's now in Dal. Hope he does just enough to stay there awhile).
Overall, I think they've drafted pretty well, but they generally don't play in FA, which could've possibly put them over the top a couple of other seasons.
Even with the draft, maybe someone other than a clipboard holder in the first rd. last year, might've put them over the top. Maybe a stud defensive player would've helped them hold TB to less than 31 pts in the NFC title game. Maybe resigning Blake would've helped (they thought we overpaid for him). Maybe another offensive weapon would've helped when TB shut down Adams.
They've been successful, if your goal is to make it to the playoffs. Not as much, if your goal is to win the SB. One of my brothers in law is from WI and big Packer fan. I don't think he'd say they've done such a great job.
Keep in mind, their division holds the Lions, Bears, and Vikings. Only one of those teams ever seems to be good in any given season.
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.
This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.
Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?
No, you are correct, fiddy. They both finished at 10-6, GB got in by tiebreaker. GB was the last team in (NO was the other WC at 11-5). Not sure how they get in if NYG have more wins.
No, it's really about GB promising him an extension and dragging their feet. He's using Love as an excuse, probably because he doesn't want to come across as greedy.
I think he and GB will come to an agreement in the next few months, and this will all blow over. By bringing Love into his contract dispute, I do wonder if he risks losing his locker room.
Regular Season
YPA: 7.8
AYA: 8.4
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 4.6
INT%: 1.4%
QBR: 70+
Playoffs
YPA: 7.6
AYA: 8.0
Comp%: 65%
TD/INT: 3.5
INT%: 1.7%
QBR: 60+
So by large, the metrics are very similar; and you have to factor in the variable that the playoffs are against the very best teams.
Yep, he’s great in the regular season and playoffs. No idea what people are watching when they say he struggles in the playoffs.
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This is all because a 37-year-old is butt-hurt that the team drafted a QB to be his potential replacement in a few years?
No, it's really about GB promising him an extension and dragging their feet. He's using Love as an excuse, probably because he doesn't want to come across as greedy.
I think he and GB will come to an agreement in the next few months, and this will all blow over. By bringing Love into his contract dispute, I do wonder if he risks losing his locker room.
To me it sounds like the media and fans are bringing Love into it. Love was picked a year ago, that happened and Rodgers being pissed off my their decision to forego an impact player already occurred. This is a series of events that all led to where we are now. If you believe what's out there, the trade rumors were the final straw.
1. His girlfriend is a California hollywood address.
2. If by chance he were to end up being the jeopardy host, which he is trying to be, its filmed in California.
bottom line is moving as close to California as he can would be very convenient for all his future endeavors.
I don't doubt that going back west is high on his list, but I can't say its the #1 reason. SF is off the table now I would imagine, and the Rams likely can't afford him in draft capital or caproom. So that leaves Vegas? Mehh.
I don't doubt that going back west is high on his list, but I can't say its the #1 reason. SF is off the table now I would imagine, and the Rams likely can't afford him in draft capital or caproom. So that leaves Vegas? Mehh.
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.
This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.
Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?
No, you are correct, fiddy. They both finished at 10-6, GB got in by tiebreaker. GB was the last team in (NO was the other WC at 11-5). Not sure how they get in if NYG have more wins.
If you change the Giants loss to PHI to a win, the Giants finish 11-5 and win the East. NO takes the first wild card at 11-5. GB and TB are tied for the 2nd WC at 10-6 and GB wins the tiebreak (conf record same, common opponents same, GB better SOV). PHI finishes 9-7.
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We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR.
This has shown up on this board before. If you change the Giants loss to Philly to a win, GB still makes the playoffs. I'm not sure why this comes up.
Ray, every report I’ve ever seen has shown the Giants being in and the Pack being out. Are you certain?
No, you are correct, fiddy. They both finished at 10-6, GB got in by tiebreaker. GB was the last team in (NO was the other WC at 11-5). Not sure how they get in if NYG have more wins.
If you change the NYG loss to PHI to a win, NYG finish 11-5 and win the east. Therefore NYG has nothing to do with whether GB gets a wild card or not. NO takes the 1st WC at 11-5. GB and TB are tied for the 2nd wild card at 10-6 and GB wins the tiebreak (no head to head) same conference, same common opponents, better SOV). PHI finishes 9-7 and is out.
1. His girlfriend is a California hollywood address.
2. If by chance he were to end up being the jeopardy host, which he is trying to be, its filmed in California.
bottom line is moving as close to California as he can would be very convenient for all his future endeavors.
p.s. he is serious about being the host now.
"would you ever consider giving up football to host Jeopardy!?
I don’t think I’d need to give up football to do it. They film 46 days a year. I worked 187 this year in Green Bay. That gives me, eh—[pauses]—178 days to do Jeopardy! So I feel like I could fit 46 into that 178 and make it work. It would be a dream job for sure, and I’m not shy at all about saying I want the job."
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I know it seems easy/natural to blame the QB for W's and L's but Rodgers post-season track record is pretty stellar.
He's not like Drew Brees out of the dome or something like that, Rodgers is a consistent high performer in the playoffs. He's had clunkers (one the Giants helped influence lol, but more often than not he shows up in the playoffs).
Football is a team game and as unlikable as Rodgers might be, doesn't make it right to pin playoff success and failure solely (or mostly) on him. Especially the way he has played.
Plus, he has a SB MVP award.
Look, I hear ya. Marino and Rodgers are the two best regular season QBs I’ve ever seen-by far. But call it what you want, blame it on anything you care to, but in the biggest games, I’ve seen him come up small..
We gifted him his only championship by choking away a 31-10 lead with about 7 1/2 minutes to go against Philly. Had we held on, GB doesn’t make the playoffs and zero titles for AR..Yes, he was unconscious down that 2010 stretch and through the SB, whether GB lucked into the playoffs that year or not..
A top 10 or better all-time QB for sure, but sorry, Not a fan of his in a big game with a title at stake..My opinion of course, but that’s how I view him, all his props notwithstanding..
Very fair take.
If Rodgers didn't have quite the dazzling playmaking ability, he'd be taken down a few notches. Same with Marino.
He leads strictly by his play on the field, but he could use more interpersonal skills I think. It could be the little bit that translates in the playoffs.
He tends to get taken out of postseason games quite easily. Then in the real tight ones, things seem to fall apart.
It's odd.