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NFT: Mets Minors 5/5/2021- The Kids came out to play!

DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 10:22 am
Syracuse - RHP Jesus Reyes
Bingo - RHP Colin Holderman
Brooklyn - RHP Jose Butto
St. Lucie - LHP Cam Opp

Butto is intriguing. The others.. meh (though Opp is from England)


St. Lucie

PCA 2-5, BB, 2 K's (CS) PCA has bulked up a bit (in a good way) and I'm a believer. I believe he is the Mets CF of the future and not Khalil Lee

Newton 2-6, 2b, 2 k's. Toolsy as it gets, time to actually show some production on the field. The swing and miss is likely going to hold him back but the glove is plus and ya never know?

Saunders 1-4 2 BB (Big athlete, older. Not the best sign they had him at 1b)

Palmer 1-6, 3 k's (big breakout potential.. he went to HS in Flushing!)

Ashford 3-4, BB. Not viewed as much of a prospect, Ashford still has a shot to be an "extra" given his overall skillset. Already 24

Peroza 2-5, 2 k's

Joander Suarez 4.2 innings 1 hit 2 runs 4 BB 6 k's (reportedly touched 94, he's been mostly 88-91 previously. Projectable. Velocity will be key for him)



BK

Mauricio 2-4, 2 2b BB, K
Baty 2-4, HR, BB, CS, error
Walker 5 innings 0 hits 0 runs 1 walk 8 k's (Not viewed as a big prospect, already 26. 6'6 lefty, my guess is he does well at his level)

Orze 2 innings 2 hits 1 run 0 walks 4 k's (2 bouts with cancer)

Bing
Vientos 0-4 bb, 2 k's (he could struggle at this level as it's a somewhat aggressive placement)
Lindsay 0-2, 2 BB, 2 k's
Cortes 2-4, 2b, BB, 2 k's
Megill 5 innings 2 hits 1 run 3 walks 10 k's (6'7 monster, can touch upper 90's, lacks 3rd pitch so likely RP but ya never know? already 26 in July)
Mitchell 2 innings 1 hit 0 runs 0 walks 2 k's (could see Queens out of the BP)


Syracuse
Lee 1-4 2 k's (started in RF. If he's a CO he's far less interesting)
Good First Day  
GF1080 : 5/5/2021 10:24 am : link
A tad odd Allan not getting a start in the first 2 games. Don't think anything is wrong just weird.
Thanks for doing this Dan!  
Section331 : 5/5/2021 10:30 am : link
Love hearing about the kids. How does PCA grade defensively in CF?
agreed re Lee/PCA  
KDavies : 5/5/2021 10:32 am : link
Lee I never viewed as more than a 4th OF ideally, potential to be a bridge CF to PCA if they need one.

Love the minor league updates: no need to go anywhere else lol
thank you Dan - interesting to see Holderman back starting  
Eric on Li : 5/5/2021 10:34 am : link
he was 1 of their big bonus picks who got hurt pretty quickly once upon a time right?
RE: Thanks for doing this Dan!  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 10:38 am : link
In comment 15254451 Section331 said:
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Love hearing about the kids. How does PCA grade defensively in CF?


PCA's glove is considered his best tool. He has the wheels and natural CF ability to stick there 100%. Obviously if he bulks up too much or gets hurt that can change but he's a pure CF.
Missed these threads...  
Metnut : 5/5/2021 10:41 am : link
it’s been a while
Lol  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 10:41 am : link
I had an entire blurb to open dedicated to Alvarez but my browser crashed so I didn't feel like retyping everything so this was a "quick" edit. Alvarez 4-5, 2b, BB. Kid could be a special offensive player. Glove needs work. He's a catcher for sure but he's going to need to improve behind the plate to be a well-rounded player. The Mets top prospects are all very intriguing. The depth is the issue, SPing, in particular, is not good.
RE: thank you Dan - interesting to see Holderman back starting  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 10:43 am : link
In comment 15254460 Eric on Li said:
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he was 1 of their big bonus picks who got hurt pretty quickly once upon a time right?


Holderman signed for 400K back in 2016. Consistently hurt, FB never really came back. Of course, the caveat is, I have no idea what he looks like in 2021 but 2019 he sat low 90's and didn't miss bats. He's turning 26, I'm not expecting much.
I'm  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 10:48 am : link
putting out an early disclaimer that with all of 2020 wiped out I don't have an amazing handle on how guys look velocity/health-wise until they are actually out there. Some guys you have heard buzz about (Megill touching 98, McWilliams touching 100 etc) but if Colin Holderman is suddenly throwing 97 (doubtful but ??) then we likely won't hear about it until he's actually out there doing so.
Did they push  
pjcas18 : 5/5/2021 10:57 am : link
Vientos because Mauricio and Baty were in BK?

It's funny, Vientos is younger than Baty, but seems like he's been a Met prospect forever.

Probably need rule V protection soon (?), maybe makes sense to push him and see how he responds.
RE: I'm  
Eric on Li : 5/5/2021 10:59 am : link
In comment 15254491 DanMetroMan said:
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putting out an early disclaimer that with all of 2020 wiped out I don't have an amazing handle on how guys look velocity/health-wise until they are actually out there. Some guys you have heard buzz about (Megill touching 98, McWilliams touching 100 etc) but if Colin Holderman is suddenly throwing 97 (doubtful but ??) then we likely won't hear about it until he's actually out there doing so.


of course - I'm sure some of these guys don't even know quite how their own stuff will play in real games since it's been so long once natural adrenaline kicks in. Everyone in the minors is kind of like Taijuan Walker in terms of how he was coming back basically after 2-3 years off. It's just a big variable that nobody can predict. Some guys may get lit up and literally retire within a few weeks. Some guys may see velocities they haven't seen in a long time like Walker did. Just gotta cross our fingers we see more of the latter.
Alvarez  
KDavies : 5/5/2021 11:04 am : link
I'm not too worried about his defense. He is projected as 55-60 on fielding and arm strength, and is praised for his leadership qualities. He will have a few years to improve on the other facets there.

I am really excited about him. A potentially excellent hitter with power from the catcher position is something that doesn't come around too often, though the Mets have been fortunate in that regard in the past.
RE: Alvarez  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 11:10 am : link
In comment 15254519 KDavies said:
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I'm not too worried about his defense. He is projected as 55-60 on fielding and arm strength, and is praised for his leadership qualities. He will have a few years to improve on the other facets there.

I am really excited about him. A potentially excellent hitter with power from the catcher position is something that doesn't come around too often, though the Mets have been fortunate in that regard in the past.


No disagreement here in regard to Alvarez. I only put it out there because I'm already (no exageration) seeing people on twitter suggesting he might replace McCann... THIS season. Catchers take a lot of time. It's just the way it is. Even more so on the defensive end. Zero doubt he's a C, zero doubt he sticks back there. He has to watch his weight/physique and work on his defense. I do not doubt he will.
RE: Did they push  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 11:11 am : link
In comment 15254503 pjcas18 said:
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Vientos because Mauricio and Baty were in BK?

It's funny, Vientos is younger than Baty, but seems like he's been a Met prospect forever.

Probably need rule V protection soon (?), maybe makes sense to push him and see how he responds.


They don't usually explain their thought process but my read is they are higher on Baty than Vientos (Fangraphs prefer Vientos for what it's worth) but listening to Blankmeyer on a recent podcast (and he had both in BK at the alternate site) it felt like they viewed Baty as a big-time talent and Vientos as a guy who works hard and could "get there".
Also at Binghamton  
Mike in NY : 5/5/2021 11:14 am : link
Keeping an eye on Jeremy Vasquez (he is only 6 months older than Lindsay) if his doubles power can finally turn into home runs.

At St. Lucie, Austin Faith was touted coming out of High School as Magnolia HS had some first round prospects. Control was always an issue but out of the pen had 3 K in 1 1/3 IP without walking anyone.
Cool  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 11:14 am : link
Jaylen Palmer starting in CF for @stluciemets today. I could be wrong, but I believe this will be his first ever appearance in the OF... CF no less. Intriguing
RE: RE: Alvarez  
KDavies : 5/5/2021 11:18 am : link
In comment 15254529 DanMetroMan said:
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In comment 15254519 KDavies said:


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I'm not too worried about his defense. He is projected as 55-60 on fielding and arm strength, and is praised for his leadership qualities. He will have a few years to improve on the other facets there.

I am really excited about him. A potentially excellent hitter with power from the catcher position is something that doesn't come around too often, though the Mets have been fortunate in that regard in the past.



No disagreement here in regard to Alvarez. I only put it out there because I'm already (no exageration) seeing people on twitter suggesting he might replace McCann... THIS season. Catchers take a lot of time. It's just the way it is. Even more so on the defensive end. Zero doubt he's a C, zero doubt he sticks back there. He has to watch his weight/physique and work on his defense. I do not doubt he will.


I think this is why I stay off Twitter lol. I can't handle the stupidity. McCann has been fantastic defensively and has been a God send.
Outside  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 11:21 am : link
of a freak like Pudge Rodriguez C's are "always" a slow burn no matter the talent level.

Ages in their first full seasons as starters....


Realmuto 23
Piazza 24
Yadi 22
Posey 23
Grandal 25
Posada 27
Perez 23
B McCann 22
J McCann 25
Martin 23
Mauer 22

Alvarez will be 20... NEXT season
PTBNL to Sox  
Shecky : 5/5/2021 11:30 am : link
Wondering who and when
RE: PTBNL to Sox  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 11:35 am : link
In comment 15254572 Shecky said:
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Wondering who and when


Shecky, are you breaking news? lol
RE: PTBNL to Sox  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 12:03 pm : link
In comment 15254572 Shecky said:
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Wondering who and when


Are we sending someone "good" for Lee that you are aware of?
Alvarez  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 12:26 pm : link
not in the lineup today. Day game after a night game. PCA, Newton 0-1, Peroza 1-1 (2b)
.  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 2:48 pm : link
PCA with 3 walks on the day, in addition to his first professional SB
RE: .  
KDavies : 5/5/2021 2:50 pm : link
In comment 15254976 DanMetroMan said:
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PCA with 3 walks on the day, in addition to his first professional SB


Nimmo with CF defense, and a bit more pop? I'll take that.
Is this year the last chance for Lindsay?  
Metnut : 5/5/2021 2:58 pm : link
Was a high pick but he’s been around seemingly forever without doing much.
RE: Is this year the last chance for Lindsay?  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 3:18 pm : link
In comment 15255004 Metnut said:
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Was a high pick but he’s been around seemingly forever without doing much.


100%. He likely would have been released by now if they had more depth.
Parra  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 3:19 pm : link
HORRENDOUS performance... 1 hit, 3 walks... bases juiced, walked in a run and was pulled.
/  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 3:36 pm : link
@petecrowarm with a "Nimmo Slam" 4 walks (and a SB) #Mets
Alvarez  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 3:57 pm : link
pinch hit walk in the 9th but St. Lucie fails to drive him in.
PCA  
DanMetroMan : 5/5/2021 4:15 pm : link
0-1... 4 walks, HBP, SB
What a horrific inning  
JB_in_DC : 5/5/2021 6:38 pm : link
Turning off the game in disgust. Replay, calls to New York, all of this crap should have no place in baseball.
RE: Lol  
jpkmets : 5/5/2021 7:12 pm : link
In comment 15254477 DanMetroMan said:
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I had an entire blurb to open dedicated to Alvarez but my browser crashed so I didn't feel like retyping everything so this was a "quick" edit. Alvarez 4-5, 2b, BB. Kid could be a special offensive player. Glove needs work. He's a catcher for sure but he's going to need to improve behind the plate to be a well-rounded player. The Mets top prospects are all very intriguing. The depth is the issue, SPing, in particular, is not good.


Wonder if robo umps would chop a year off ETA for catchers.
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